So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
Did you do clean installs? My phone is back on a stock debloated att ROM and its doesn't fly but its pretty stable and smooth. I've had some really laggy Roms but I would start with at least a stock based ROM. Then search for a stable jb rom. I was on padawn and beanstalk and a few other Roms that where fairly smooth.
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I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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briand.mooreg said:
I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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I want to say it could be the way he is flashing or not whipping for a fresh install. Or also could be the Roms he flashed.
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did you test all governor/ I/O scheduler combonations. all phones react differently to diff setups. if not using the best setup for your phone you will get an insane amount of lag. but choose right and it will fly. my phone likes fantasy/sio/1728/384
I would not call the galaxy note a rocket ship! Some ROMS start out relatively speedy and then lag over time and require frequent reboots to free up system resources. I have found the debloated stock JB rom to be the best combination of performance and stability. It does what I need it to do, when I need it to do it.
The stock JB kernel is more stable than the phase kernel. I wouldn't bother flashing that if you are on TW based JB. The UBER kernel had great performance on the AOSP and CM based roms, but the ROMs themselves had some stability issues and other fuctionality issues. If I were you, I would do a complete ODIN flash back to stock, then start from there...root, recovery.....etc
Then see if you are still having the same issues.
The Note both fast AND slow...it just depends on what you are comparing it to.
I had my i717 side by side with my i9000 (Galaxy S1) last night...both are running SlimBean...I have JD's UBER kernel on the i717 overclocked to 1.8GHz...stock kernel on the i9000 (1GHz). The i717 was WAY faster than the i9000.
Then I had the i717 beside my brand new, bone stock, still bloated i337M (Galaxy S4)...and the S4 blew the Note out of the water.
Odin is worth the try. i never do dirty installs. always install APKs with no data restores. full wipes of everything but sdcard, been using Goomanager to do most of my flashes with TWRP 2.6.1 , but also doing it manually.
I've had my Note since the beginning of May and I can't say it's a laggy device. My experience has been that the Samsung ROMs are lagier than the AOSP or CM based ROMs but are more stable. On average with a Samsung ROM, I have about 200Mb of free memory where as with the AOSP or CM ROMs I get about 300Mb free.
A super fast ROM I can recommend for you is Carbon. Very fast ROM. Have it also on my Samsung Nexus S and it is really smooth.
Anyways, aside of the performance, the Note has awesome features that you won't find on other phones (or tablets )
Also might want to backup your data from your sd card and format it as well. Ive seen corrupted files on the ext sd card cause rom performance issues.
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So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
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WOW, slow down and breathe........................
you make it sound as if you have flashed all this in about a 6 hour time span.
how long have you had the Note?
how much of a chance did you give ROM's to settle in?
your flashing kernals too? right kernel with right ROM?
again, are you giving that a chance to settle?
AOSP ROM's are fast and a lot of options, usually sacrificing stability
Touchwiz is going to give you stability and with Trickster mod, I get NO lag at all. never a reboot either
my phone has never run better than it does on Padawan.
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Im currently using CM9 latest nightly, but as much as I love AOSP, I never feels as smooth as samsung based roms. Why is that? Kernel? Drivers? Optimizations?
If its kernel, which is (Opinion based) the smoothest available?
thnx
Im looking for the smoothest experience, is there a kernel or any t
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ATM cm9 roms have a bit touch issue, so it feels like its not smooth
But when their wasn't any touch issue then people said its much smoother than stock
once you taste aosp ics you never go back
just wait till it hit stable and samsung rom wont even come close
^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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most of the fixes like video recording were done in hurry ,noobes flaming etc
now the devs are working on cleaning and optimizing the code now
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/03/30/cm9-status-for-galaxy-s-ii/
You can try with another ROM, I'm currently in Thebyani 3.7 it uses Siyah v3.0rc1 kernel and Vertumus Theme.
Its really smooth and fast and the look it's very AOSP, no TW bloat.
Just to give context of what I am trying to get, here's the background information:
I had HTC Thunderbolt and the stock Verizon ROM was really bad.
ISSUE: bad battery life, crashes, random reboots, etc.
SOLUTION: I tried MANY custom ROM and after a long time, found one that works great and stuck with it for months. Although I am OK installing custom ROM, but the journey of finding which one is right is NOT something I enjoy (multiple ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
Afterwards, I bought an International version of Galaxy Note, a CARRIER-UNLOCK phone with none of the carrier crap or firmware. The stock ROM works great, so much so I don't have to install a custom ROM
- ISSUE: NONE! Great battery life, really fast and buttery smooth
- SOLUTION: NONE!
Unfortunately, my International Note went defective and it was not covered under Samsung Warranty. Not wanting to go through the same non-warranty issue, I am planning to buy the AT&T version of the Note.
So my question is:
Using the STOCK AT&T ROM, do YOU get the following:
- Good battery life (at least 8 hours - I don't mind rooting and freezing some crap)
- Fast OS performance (not laggy, etc.)
- Stable OS
I don't care about ICS or what not, I just want something that works with the above.
I am just trying to figure out if I have to go through the same thing when I had my Thunderbolt (see above) or not.
It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
kimtyson said:
It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
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Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
lanwarrior said:
Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
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I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!*"
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I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
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I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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froidroid said:
I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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Since you don't use custom ROM, which app do you use to control the CPU? CPURoot?
Also, is your Note stable and fast performance wise? I.e. playing 3D games doesn't stutter, opening large Word or Excel file is smooth, etc.
Set CPU and yes, it's very smooth and stable. The only game I had minor issues with was temple run. I haven't had a single problem since oc'ng. After root I flashed Da g's oc'd kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
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I've read a few threads here concerning multitasking problems on the Galaxy S3. From what I gather, the reason multitasking sucks and apps constantly reload when reopened is due to bloatware running in the background using precious memory.
I have a Nexus 7 as well and multitasking on this thing is a dream. Hardly anything is ever reloaded. I've seen a few different suggested solutions but nothing 100% solid.
My S3 is stock (unrooted) and running JB 4.1.1. For some reason, my phone won't find the 4.1.2 update but that's another story in itself.
I'm just asking for people who have experienced this problem, apps constantly redrawing, what you all have done to fix this. What roms you've flashed, mods you've flashed or made etc. Maybe this can be made into a thread to help a lot of S3 users, a guide somewhat. This is my 2nd S3, I flashed a few ICS roms on the 1st one and it never made much of a difference in terms of memory management, but I don't know if the same could be said for JellyBean.
Any tips and advice much appreciated, thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
I use this as it supposedly helps memory management.
(+ You can flash 4.1.2)
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK 1.8.9
23Six said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
I use this as it supposedly helps memory management.
(+ You can flash 4.1.2)
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK 1.8.9
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I just flashed 4.1.2, no big improvement..looks like I'll have to root and try this. Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Does it work well for you though ?
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Most custom roms seem ok for multitasking. Just don't flash any aggressive memory management mods coz they're gonna kill your app as soon as you open another.. "stock" custom roms do the trick for me unless I'm running a heavy game or something.
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jonathan_337 said:
I've read a few threads here concerning multitasking problems on the Galaxy S3. From what I gather, the reason multitasking sucks and apps constantly reload when reopened is due to bloatware running in the background using precious memory.
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Most S3 custom ROMs has bloatware removed already, but you could either delete the APK file in the ROM file or use ROMCleaner
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For some reason, my phone won't find the 4.1.2 update but that's another story in itself.
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4.1.2 firmware update may not been released in your country
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What roms you've flashed, mods you've flashed or made etc.
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I've ARHD 19 installed with Perseus kernel with no mods installed and it seems fine for me, but I do often close apps which I don't use
Incrauze said:
Most S3 custom ROMs has bloatware removed already, but you could either delete the APK file in the ROM file or use ROMCleaner
4.1.2 firmware update may not been released in your country
I've ARHD 19 installed with Perseus kernel with no mods installed and it seems fine for me, but I do often close apps which I don't use
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I've been flashing roms like crazy and none of them are as smooth as my Nexus 7 or my friend's Nexus 4..I've tried all the best AOSP roms and stock based roms and I can't be satisfied till it can be as smooth as a Nexus 4..its solely the ram management that's slowing everything down :'(
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I have never ever had a problem with multitasking. Is that probably only because I have the 2GB version of the Galaxy S3?
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I have the sane problem and flashed omega rom 4.1.2 and same problem reloads my app
high usageof ram is da problem
2gb version doesnt have this problem . only 1gb version di this
I understand what you're saying. Like you, i've searched and tested a lot to solve multitasking on stock roms (zram, swap in the internal sd, swap on external sd, tweaks like apps in ram increase, etc.) Far from satisfying. You can get jkay mod to lock your launcher in memory, that helps with the launcher redraws but one can't just lock everything in ram. zram had weird behaviours with extended use, swap works but makes all stuff generally slower, especially if used from the external sd and also has the sd wear potential problem.
I've came to terms with the reality that multitasking is essentially broken and since every other samsung phone on this range is getting 2Gb i gave up on samsung bothering to actually make this work properly. I don't even think newer phones have that fixed either, it's just there's probably enough ram not to care.
I was just about to put it up for sale so i tried aosp roms. Dude, this is where it's at, it's not that it's perfect but multitasking probably doesn't get any better than this for this phone. Tried slimrom and, granted, you do some "sacrifices" but multitask WORKS. I mean, stuff doesn't get closed after a while because for no reason - on stock, apps on background actually apeared to have a timer, they'd get closed even if i didn't do anything with the phone after a while (there's a limit of course). Also, i didn't compromise that much. Browser is actually better than stock's - does the same but it's faster and reflows text on zoom. Camera isn't THAT bad. You do lose all the effects from the stock camera but i never used them anyway and i can always get some other camera app for that, there's plenty anyway. I've seen people complaining about bluetooth but i use mine a lot and haven't come across any problem. Some say they have worse battery or microlags - to me battery's about the same as stock and had microlags anyway with stock, even worse since apps were restarting way more often.
TL: DR - try out an aosp rom. Made me reconsider selling my phone. For now.
whats the best stable, lag free, and fast rom for the fascinate? is their any ROM that has JB/Kk? also, i need a rom with lots of internal space.
honestly i've been most satisfied with EH03, the verizon stock ROM. i've tried every version of CyanogenMod and nothing has come close to the fluidity and speed of good ol gingybread.
although if you absolutely can not stand touchwiz for some reason, CM9 is ok but it has a couple of issues (no native wifi tethering, weird texts from blank numbers, sometimes it just freezes and reboots itself).
also i use imoseyon's lean kernel along with a couple of other mods.. if you want them let me know. it kinda looks like touchwiz 4 for me.
using the stock verizon build too, debloated, debinged, rooted. all the links to EH03-based ROMs are dead unfortunately.
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whats the best stable, lag free, and fast rom for the fascinate? is their any ROM that has JB/Kk? also, i need a rom with lots of internal space.
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And it's so subjective,,, what works for one another despises...
I loved 'baked blackbean 6' it was 4.1.x jellybean (course i heavily tweaked it to my personal liking),,, and then came Slim ROM 4.2.2 ,,,
hellybean was good too,,,
Of course running the devil kennel from hellybean on these was the ticket too.
you just gotta be willing to take the plunge and try some different ones out till you find the one that trips your trigger the best :thumbup:
actually, based on prior experience, CM7 is the best non-TW GB ROM (although i'm content with my gutted out modded to hell EH03), ICS i just don't recommend because it gives excellent performance and is solid but the devs never fixed a few issues that are kinda big. JB just always lagged and stuttered too much but i remember Helly being a halfway decent rom
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Should i root and install pure nexus rom on my nexus 9?
Will i get a performance upgrade in normal day to day use?
Yes, difference is huge, like day and night.
Nexus 9 on stock is unusable slow for me.
Example:
Play Music, Youtube and so on open like 5 times as fast as before
Web Browsing is not stuttering/lagging all the time
General Performance difference is really noticeable
I'm running PureNexus Rom + FireIce Kernel
I tried it, but I did not really notice any difference, but I only tried it for a few hours. I noticed that apps opened quicker with CyanogenMod (that could be attributed that to running minimal Google Apps by using OpenGapps Pico) but that could just be in my mind.
What rom did you try and what kernel?
I'm not a cyanogenmod fan, feel like their rom is always a bit slower than others.
DirtyUnicorn is pretty fast as well.
Personally the only ROM I have been happy with on my nexus 9 has been pure nexus. I've changed out kernels a bit but settled with fire ice kernel. Maxed out CPU and GPU over clock and haven't complained about performance for both games and apps. I ran stock for a few weeks and this is a lot better. (Pure nexus) I don't do benchmarks and what not but the overall feel with fsync off is what I originally expected it to be out of the box. Its a nexus. Give it a try if you hate it go back to stock. That's the joy of the nexus. I also use pure nexus on my nexus 6 and love it the same.
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What rom did you try and what kernel?
I'm not a cyanogenmod fan, feel like their rom is always a bit slower than others.
DirtyUnicorn is pretty fast as well.
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I tried Pure Nexus ROM and perhaps one or two others (aside from CM). I tried EX & FireIce kernels.
Regarding the performance or user experience, I have no proof. Just opinion.
Honestly, it is so easy to just try the ROMs & kernels, I wonder why these threads ever pop up. Just try them and see which one you prefer.