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Should i root and install pure nexus rom on my nexus 9?
Will i get a performance upgrade in normal day to day use?
Yes, difference is huge, like day and night.
Nexus 9 on stock is unusable slow for me.
Example:
Play Music, Youtube and so on open like 5 times as fast as before
Web Browsing is not stuttering/lagging all the time
General Performance difference is really noticeable
I'm running PureNexus Rom + FireIce Kernel
I tried it, but I did not really notice any difference, but I only tried it for a few hours. I noticed that apps opened quicker with CyanogenMod (that could be attributed that to running minimal Google Apps by using OpenGapps Pico) but that could just be in my mind.
What rom did you try and what kernel?
I'm not a cyanogenmod fan, feel like their rom is always a bit slower than others.
DirtyUnicorn is pretty fast as well.
Personally the only ROM I have been happy with on my nexus 9 has been pure nexus. I've changed out kernels a bit but settled with fire ice kernel. Maxed out CPU and GPU over clock and haven't complained about performance for both games and apps. I ran stock for a few weeks and this is a lot better. (Pure nexus) I don't do benchmarks and what not but the overall feel with fsync off is what I originally expected it to be out of the box. Its a nexus. Give it a try if you hate it go back to stock. That's the joy of the nexus. I also use pure nexus on my nexus 6 and love it the same.
creambyemute said:
What rom did you try and what kernel?
I'm not a cyanogenmod fan, feel like their rom is always a bit slower than others.
DirtyUnicorn is pretty fast as well.
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I tried Pure Nexus ROM and perhaps one or two others (aside from CM). I tried EX & FireIce kernels.
Regarding the performance or user experience, I have no proof. Just opinion.
Honestly, it is so easy to just try the ROMs & kernels, I wonder why these threads ever pop up. Just try them and see which one you prefer.
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I have been running Sense on my Rezound since the day the phone launched. I've tried a couple different ROMs but have always gone back to the stock ROM and then removed all the bloat apps, and been very happy with the performance and stability on my phone.
Recently I updated to ICS and the most recent firmware (I was on GB this whole time), and battery life had been sucking pretty bad, so I decided to try a custom kernel. I flashed FunkyKernel 3.7, and, while it didn't do much to help battery life (even with underclocking and undervolting), it did GREATLY improve performance, especially gaming performance.
But, battery life was still MUCH worse than it had been on GB, so I decided to try CM 10.1 and see if a vanilla ROM would fare better. Flashed CM 10.1 and the ROM ran fine, but my graphics performance took a HUGE hit. I've been playing a lot of Sonic the Hedgehog lately (the Android port of the original), and on ICS sense it ran a buttery smooth 60 fps. On CM 10 I'm getting like 15-20 fps. Fired up Quadrant and saw the same results on the graphics tests there. I tried flashing FunkyBean 3.7, and playing with the clock speed and governor settings, but no dice. I enabled "force GPU on 2d" and no dice. I tried suggestions from the CM thread, no dice. Loaded up Shadowgun, and it also ran very poorly, compared to playing on the Sense ROM... very choppy
Has anyone else noticed this? I expected CM to FLY compared to Sense. The home screen and most apps were just fine, no choppiness, no lag that I could really see, only the games really showed any loss of performance. Did I do something wrong? Is it an issue with the drivers?
Cm 10.1 ROMs have a 50/50 gaming performance. Some games are smooth some are not
Now if you want CyanogenMod and great battery life and performance all around than you want a cm9 ROM. I only left cm9 for the new features if cm10.1
So if you use cm10.1 you may need to try different games. But cm9 is perfect but you give up cm10.1 features
Maybe in the future gaming will get fixed. Maybe when ion starts rolling out but who knows..
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Ok, at least now I know it's not just my phone or me screwing something up. thank you.
Yup, just try CM9.
So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
Did you do clean installs? My phone is back on a stock debloated att ROM and its doesn't fly but its pretty stable and smooth. I've had some really laggy Roms but I would start with at least a stock based ROM. Then search for a stable jb rom. I was on padawn and beanstalk and a few other Roms that where fairly smooth.
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I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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I experience no lag. I came from the HTC inspire and there is no comparison. I test out between 7500 - 8000 using the Carbon ROM, without over clocking my CPU or GPU.
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I want to say it could be the way he is flashing or not whipping for a fresh install. Or also could be the Roms he flashed.
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did you test all governor/ I/O scheduler combonations. all phones react differently to diff setups. if not using the best setup for your phone you will get an insane amount of lag. but choose right and it will fly. my phone likes fantasy/sio/1728/384
I would not call the galaxy note a rocket ship! Some ROMS start out relatively speedy and then lag over time and require frequent reboots to free up system resources. I have found the debloated stock JB rom to be the best combination of performance and stability. It does what I need it to do, when I need it to do it.
The stock JB kernel is more stable than the phase kernel. I wouldn't bother flashing that if you are on TW based JB. The UBER kernel had great performance on the AOSP and CM based roms, but the ROMs themselves had some stability issues and other fuctionality issues. If I were you, I would do a complete ODIN flash back to stock, then start from there...root, recovery.....etc
Then see if you are still having the same issues.
The Note both fast AND slow...it just depends on what you are comparing it to.
I had my i717 side by side with my i9000 (Galaxy S1) last night...both are running SlimBean...I have JD's UBER kernel on the i717 overclocked to 1.8GHz...stock kernel on the i9000 (1GHz). The i717 was WAY faster than the i9000.
Then I had the i717 beside my brand new, bone stock, still bloated i337M (Galaxy S4)...and the S4 blew the Note out of the water.
Odin is worth the try. i never do dirty installs. always install APKs with no data restores. full wipes of everything but sdcard, been using Goomanager to do most of my flashes with TWRP 2.6.1 , but also doing it manually.
I've had my Note since the beginning of May and I can't say it's a laggy device. My experience has been that the Samsung ROMs are lagier than the AOSP or CM based ROMs but are more stable. On average with a Samsung ROM, I have about 200Mb of free memory where as with the AOSP or CM ROMs I get about 300Mb free.
A super fast ROM I can recommend for you is Carbon. Very fast ROM. Have it also on my Samsung Nexus S and it is really smooth.
Anyways, aside of the performance, the Note has awesome features that you won't find on other phones (or tablets )
Also might want to backup your data from your sd card and format it as well. Ive seen corrupted files on the ext sd card cause rom performance issues.
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So i just switched to Tmobile and got myself a shinny ATT Note. tried flashing a few roms. CM10.1 Avatar, Jedi, Blackstar, and a few kernels, Phase and Uber, and even a few radios.
so my question? is this phone slow for everyone? it crawls way to often, to the point of instability. lags overall.
thought it be alot better, coming off an EVO, EVO 3D, Galaxy Nexus LTE, this just seems like ive made the wrong choice.
its possible its just mine? if so gotta know so i can dump it!!
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WOW, slow down and breathe........................
you make it sound as if you have flashed all this in about a 6 hour time span.
how long have you had the Note?
how much of a chance did you give ROM's to settle in?
your flashing kernals too? right kernel with right ROM?
again, are you giving that a chance to settle?
AOSP ROM's are fast and a lot of options, usually sacrificing stability
Touchwiz is going to give you stability and with Trickster mod, I get NO lag at all. never a reboot either
my phone has never run better than it does on Padawan.
Hi there little-biggie users
I would like to know some information from those who use the latest CM11 on Z Ultra.
Does everything work? I mean for example WiFi tethering ... because I read there have been problems.
Is it smooth enough? stock 4.4.4 is very smooth ... some people say 4.3 was better ... I know it is not important, but how much does it score in AnTuTu?
Is it worth moving from stock to CM? I had Xperia Neo before ... so I have experience with flashing etc. ... but I do not have much time now and just want to be sure.
Thank you for your answers :good:
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Hi there little-biggie users
I would like to know some information from those who use the latest CM11 on Z Ultra.
Does everything work? I mean for example WiFi tethering ... because I read there have been problems.
Is it smooth enough? stock 4.4.4 is very smooth ... some people say 4.3 was better ... I know it is not important, but how much does it score in AnTuTu?
Is it worth moving from stock to CM? I had Xperia Neo before ... so I have experience with flashing etc. ... but I do not have much time now and just want to be sure.
Thank you for your answers :good:
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I'm not using CM (I\m building Carbon for the community so use that) but tethering was fixed about a month or so ago. No AOSP/CM11 seems to score quite as high as Stock on antutu, but benchmarks aren't everything.
I will pick Aosp performance over CM anytime.
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I'm not using CM (I\m building Carbon for the community so use that) but tethering was fixed about a month or so ago. No AOSP/CM11 seems to score quite as high as Stock on antutu, but benchmarks aren't everything.
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I seen that two months ago... scores on antutu are so poor on custom roms...
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I seen that two months ago... scores on antutu are so poor on custom roms...
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They keep improving thanks to ever-excellent dev work. I tried some benchmarks for the first time recently, and got almost 40,000 points on Antutu v5 with both Slim/CandyKat and LiquidSmooth (optimised CM11 kernel) with pretty stock settings. PAC-ROM scored a bit lower at ~35-36,000 with the standard CM11 kernel.
I personally find Sony ROMs the smoothest graphically, but the benefits of custom ROMs outweigh this for me.
Haven't tried stock, but using latest nightly (not that many commis have been merged since my was forked).
It's very nice. I can only compare it with cm on note 3, but this seems better. I have a small issue with the light sensor, but everything else world fine. Smooth. I'm using ART, and I've had 0 reboots or fc's compared to the other mentioned device.
I've heard that stock is nice, but for the latest and greatest you'll have to run a cm/aosp base? Hopefully we'll see the next Android iteration soon..
I just moved off stock to CM11.2 about a week ago and I'm liking it but there is something wonky with the dialer, when I make or receive a call if I hang up using the red bar it doesn't hang the call up. The red bar turns dark and the person is still on line.
Oh, got one other complaint, the camera is VERY VERY slow to come up, like 30-60 seconds sometimes. I've also seen it unable to connect.
Those are about my only complaint. It's way better than Sony and getting my Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, and Recovery back is worth it.
Marc
Only issue is the camera sometimes forced close .. other than that , battery life is awesome , smooth and fast. On top of this I flashed a OnePlusOne conversion kit and everything works. I like the screencast app. I like this new build.
Theme engines are awesome too...
for the camera see the fix in most of the custom ROM threads
bugs everywhere but not more or fewer than other roms
Hi guys, I'm searching for a rom which works great with games, any ideas?
No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
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Thanks for an answer.
I've used a lot of roms too, I've been changing them every week and I'm really enjoying ArchiDroid with android 5.1.1. I'm definitely going to try installing latest stock and doing what you told me to, I never liked stocks though.
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As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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I can't live without root, I'm using a lot of tweaks and rooted apps. Stock roms were always laggy and slow for me, maybe I just can't use them properly.
Stock ROMs are laggy on legacy devices.
New devices works perfectly good on Stock ROMs. This is why they have lesser Custom ROMs and older devices still has some ongoing developments.
I've never had any performance issue after rooting my Sonys and Samsungs. I always had better performance and recommend custom ROMs because they work better for me. Please bear in mind that my latest device is the S3 which has 1GB RAM while other new phones are going 4GB so my opinion only stops here : On old devices. On new devices , I've played with my friends Note 3 alot and we reached a conclusion that it works flawless even on Stock ROM.
For a gaming ROM , I would suggest ArchiDroid if you are going CM. Latest Archidroid Lollipop works flawlessly for me (Even while using Chrome with 11 Tabs. No lags and reloads while switching tabs). Runs NFS:Most Wanted , Cyrus and alot other major games that I've tested run on full FPS without a single lag. However , Hearthstone will never work good on S3 even on this magnificent ROM. Go for Archidroid for both KitKat and Lollipop if you want Performance. Go for Temasek (Darkened's build) if you want balanced Performance , customization and slightly better Battery life. Other ROMs work too , they may have more customization (Blisspop) etc but I did not list them because they are too heavy for a Gaming ROM In my opinion. AOKP KitKat is also a fair choice to go for.
For Touchwiz Based ROMs, I would say LukeROM. Install without Bloat and enjoy a smooth ROM even on stock kernel and no Greenify. NFS:Most Wanted , Cytus and other major games that I've tested also runs on full FPS without lag. It also has stock Camera and Note 4 Multiwindow that allow floating app like Messenger Chat Head. However , Chrome makes this ROM die on stock kernel. 4 or 5 tabs and it starts reloading when switching tabs. NeatROM Lite is also a good choice if you're fine with Android 4.3 and a Bluetooth Bug where NFC gets turn on too when you connect to a Bluetooth device. (Might be device specific bug since I don't see a lot of comments about that bug). Blekota's S5 Lite ROM with Boeffla kernel and Speed Mod also works flawless. Check my post on that thread for tutorial.(Posted few months back)
These are my personal experience with various ROMs for I9300. I've flashed almost every ROM that came to XDA and a few other Chinese forums since January 2014 and these are my conclusions. Please bear in mind that the same ROM might perform differently for different users with different usage and settings. Have a nice day
@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
I have 550 free ram running cm 12(gaaps pico installed)now looking for a custom kernel to overclock...can u sugest me one?
@nolitooo When I was on cm12 I was using an ArchiKernel, it worked great. There's always boeffla kernel, with boeffla config app, try them both and pick your best
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@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
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I'm sorry. By no greenify I mean I did not install Greenify on that ROM.
I suggest flashing Boeffla 7.9 on Luke ROM because after flashing I find the ROM smoother and Chrome works better
@conanDO98 I'm gonna flash it now and see how it works
I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
I did try the Luke rom but after a few days had some problems with some games, back on stock and all perfect. Now just have to download some tools and have free time and will deodex and zipaligh it. And some other mods if I find some good.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
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What's a good rom to play garena free on galaxy s3 T mobile (d2tmo)?
I've had this tablet since the big sale in the winter, using it mostly for gaming (FIFA 16 mobile with those graphics tho) and reading PDFs. Never got around to rooting and ROMing because of school. I've experienced the usual minor frustrations: heat/throttling (sometimes a big deal while playing FIFA), screen redraw lags, etc.
So what modifications should I do to bring out the best performance, for gaming and for just general usage? :good:
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I've had this tablet since the big sale in the winter, using it mostly for gaming (FIFA 16 mobile with those graphics tho) and reading PDFs. Never got around to rooting and ROMing because of school. I've experienced the usual minor frustrations: heat/throttling (sometimes a big deal while playing FIFA), screen redraw lags, etc.
So what modifications should I do to bring out the best performance, for gaming and for just general usage? :good:
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I used the skipsoft program to unlock my bootloader, remove the encryption, install Super SU root, and install TWRP recovery. Then I downloaded and installed the latest Pure Nexus (CMTE) and fire and ice kernel. I haven't tried any other ROMs. I also bought mine during the winter sale. Stock Nexus 9 is unbearable. Rooted and ROMed these things fly! Been on my tablet for almost 2 hours during internet. Haven't had any lag or any noticeable rise in temperature.
Using AICP with NaHCO₃ kernel. AICP is based off of cm but adds a lot of features like slim/omni-recents, adaway, and more customizations. With NaHCO₃ you can disable zram and enable ksm, which makes 2 GB of ram barely noticable(it got a better antutu ram score than the s6). It also has a lot of governors, I/O schedulers, and TCP congestion algorithms. (you can change all of this with kernel auditor)
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I used the skipsoft program to unlock my bootloader, remove the encryption, install Super SU root, and install TWRP recovery. Then I downloaded and installed the latest Pure Nexus (CMTE) and fire and ice kernel. I haven't tried any other ROMs. I also bought mine during the winter sale. Stock Nexus 9 is unbearable. Rooted and ROMed these things fly! Been on my tablet for almost 2 hours during internet. Haven't had any lag or any noticeable rise in temperature.
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Hmm... I usually prefer to avoid all-in-one programs and do things manually to get familiar with all the steps, although this program does seem like it would save me a lot of time haha. Speaking of encryption, I've read most people don't see much difference after removing, do you agree?
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Hmm... I usually prefer to avoid all-in-one programs and do things manually to get familiar with all the steps, although this program does seem like it would save me a lot of time haha. Speaking of encryption, I've read most people don't see much difference after removing, do you agree?
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Didn't notice too much of a difference. Mainly because I did everything at once. Went from stock to completely ROMed. I do have to say that the difference between the two is like night and day. The skipsoft program also allows you to manually install steps. I used to do things completely manually, but can't anymore. Newborn in the house make it hard to concentrate on steps.
I'm on latest stock and fire-ice kernel! ?
latest DU Official and Fire-Ice
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Using AICP with NaHCO₃ kernel. AICP is based off of cm but adds a lot of features like slim/omni-recents, adaway, and more customizations. With NaHCO₃ you can disable zram and enable ksm, which makes 2 GB of ram barely noticable(it got a better antutu ram score than the s6). It also has a lot of governors, I/O schedulers, and TCP congestion algorithms. (you can change all of this with kernel auditor)
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I use AICP on my phone and its great, but ran like sludge on my OG nexus 7 (relatively speaking for that thing, CM and stock were faster). How does it run on the 9?
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I use AICP on my phone and its great, but ran like sludge on my OG nexus 7 (relatively speaking for that thing, CM and stock were faster). How does it run on the 9?
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So I actually ended up using AICP (tried Dirty Unicorns first but couldn't get it to boot because of an encryption issue that has since been fixed in the ROM) and it runs fine. As you guys have mentioned, significantly smoother than stock. It's the difference between unusable and usable for leisurely browsing. Haven't really bothered with the customization options yet, and the weather clock that I wanted to use doesn't work, but all in all not sludgy at all. :good: