Hello. Monday I bring the lumia 920, I read in many forums that lasts almost anything, that's true, how hard you to you with normal use and moderate? come from a hox and lasted a whole day without problems.
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
Gnarfsan said:
Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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i seriously didnt get this ??
LOL "the camera is a little disappointing"
did you see cameras from other phones??? for me Lumia 920 have best camera (if not count 925 or 1020 and pureview 808)
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Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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Are you serious. The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them. Until the other two newer Lumias got released this camera was the best on the market for a phone. It's best ability is low light however. There is no other phone that can take pics in the low light levels this phone does.
Gnarfsan said:
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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He probably meant from his expectations, since the camera on the Lumia 920 was touted so highly. I have one, and TBH it's a great camera, especially given that it's on a mobile phone, but not mindblowingly game changing.
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i seriously didnt get this ??
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I come from a Galaxy Note 2.
What I don't like about the Lumia 920 camera:
It does not meassure light properly where I click. It only focusses unlike the Note 2 and the iPhone. I get a lot of pictures of people with dark faces, which has never been a problem on my previous phones.
It's incredibly slow compared to the Note 2, which is almost instant.
The pictures lack contrast, and often look slightly out of focus.
I had expected it to be at least on par with the Note 2 (which has the same camera as the GS3)
These are my experiences with the stock camera app. I can't wait to try the Pro Cam app though.
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The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them.
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Can you share a link or something? Because in all the reviews that I have read, noone have compared it to a SLR. In fact, many of them have been disappointed with the daylight performance when compared to other flagship phones launched that fall.
The only times I have seen a anyone comming up with a statement remotely like yours is when testing the Nokia 808 or the Lumia 1020.
Edit: To back up these wild claims:
DP Review:
Unfortunately, the 920’s daylight performance is only OK. There’s at least as much noise as much of the competition, if not more. So much engineering has clearly gone into the 920’s camera unit that we’d hope for class-leading sensor performance, but it seems to be middle of the pack.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9128863653/nokia-lumia-920-camera-review-first-look
The Verge:
To most eyes, the images look a little washed out and don’t "pop," with not enough warm tones.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584486/nokia-lumia-920-review
Slashgear:
with bonus comparison to the Samsung Galaxy S III and see how diverse the photos can be. These color variations as well as the end result of photos that with one device appear to be much sharper than the Lumia 920 mean that we’ve got software at work here that attempts to create for you a finished image
http://www.slashgear.com/att-nokia-lumia-920-review-03255516/
Techno Buffalo:
Overall, it’s comparable to the iPhone 5 camera, but I prefer the iPhone 5 because it generally offered sharper photos.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Engadget:
but that performance has somehow cost your well-lit images a degree of detail you might not want to give up.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Pocketnow:
It’s pretty clear that the Lumia 920′s image sensor is nothing special, as it looks just about the same as the lower-end Lumia 810.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/15/nokia-lumia-920-review-att
Last weekend my Galaxy S III was stolen, and I had to buy a new phone asap. With a little time to think it through I took a chance with Lumia 920 and I can confirm that, in every aspect, Galaxy S III makes better daily photos. However, Lumia 920 supposed to shine in low-light segment, but unfortunately didn't have time to test that. Overall, so far good phone experience.
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
Carl Zeiss does have a big name in camera lenses.
Edit; Lol I'm getting a bit of topic I see, as topic started about the battery.
Laurentius26 said:
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
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I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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Hi,
With amber update and nokia pro cam focus is better and measures light more correct than before it.
Hi,
I've made some test shots today after this discussion (I just bought my Lumia a couple of days ago) with the Pro cam on Amber and yes pictures are pretty sharp.
But to be honest I'm a bit dissapointed about the noise in the pictures.
I think the standard camera does make better quality pictures (after some later tests but I still need to test more) and you can set ISO there as well.
Light is sometimes correct but not always.
Attached a sample picture I took today On amber update and nokia Pro cam set to ISO 100 (f/2.0 and shutter 1/1600 sec are set automatic).
On original image size you see the noise, which shouldn't be there at all on bright daylight.
boril said:
Hi,
With amber update and nokia Pro cam focus does look ok.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
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Laurentius26 said:
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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Same here. Basically it drains very little battery while it's not in use. Even on LTE.
Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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It sounds faulty For how have you had it?
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Hey is the atrix's camera better than the iphone 4's?
I've read many reviews, and it looks like the atrix 4g's camera is just average.
This is kind of depressing , considering I wanted a phone with a nice camera.
I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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FLAC Vest said:
I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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how far off from the iphone's camera is it? I guess I could just use picsay pro to fill in the missing holes. =/
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
franciscojavierleon said:
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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franciscojavierleon said:
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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Definitely a purple bluish tint. Although that does suck, I will have my Captivate as a backup.
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In my experience with the HTC EVO, the auto white-balance in Android, in a word, blows. However, selecting the white-balance for the situation at hand works great.
Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Please lay off the myth that more MP=more quality. The quality of a camera is related to the quality and the size of the lens. I couldn't care less if a phone's camera is 3MP as long as it has a good lens. The iphone4's camera has pretty big lens that's the reason the pictures are very nice for a phone.
Sadly the atrix has a crappy camera, but i am hopeful the purple tint can be fixed in a update.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
I'm just hoping the camera is better than the one I had on my aria.
Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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your right; no camera phone will take a pic even close to my DSLR; but to be honest with you, the iphone4 takes pics that are good enough if they're just for my computer. the DSLR is bulky and isnt always there when you need it; your phone is usually always with you; so it's nice to have a phone that takes somewhat decent pictures. i remember when i first got my e71 and was so disappointed in the camera; hope the atrix is not the same. but it sure looked similar during engadgets review
Yes it's nice to have for little things, and i use it for that, i'm just saying i've never looked at a cell phone and thought "yes, this will replace my camera"
I'll reserve judgement for when i get mine. Engadget has been proving their incompetence more and more lately, so i put little to no faith in their ability to create fair or accurate tests.
I love having a camera in my pocket at all times but every phone I've ever had has taken disappointing pictures. My touch pro 2 takes alright/almost acceptable shots outside during the day but in low light its not even worth trying. I am looking forward to the led flash on the atrix but I'm sure it will be a while before a phone replaces stand alone cameras for even point and shoot average Joes.
I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
Eh, for what I use my camera for (pictures at bars, on the beach, videos of people doing stupid ****), I don't need a 12 mp megashooter that can capture the individual pores on your nose. I'm just happy to finally have a flash on my phone.
Fixter said:
I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
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I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
n0kia916 said:
I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
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Thanks. But I think the camera is really good. Is a very cloudy and gloomy day so thats why it looks a little sad.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
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Not a hater at all lol. but give credit where credit is due. My nokia n 95 had a terrific camera. My sony k 850 I had an even better camera. My question is this; why is everybody going gaga over the camera in over the camera in the iphone when it took four generations for apple to finally install a halfway decent camera? In reality people should have been booing apple for the 3 phones with lousy cameras.
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I took these last night. These images were taken with
no flash
standard settings (everything auto)
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Looks like crap, oh well.
This thing kills the iPhone camera which is the best camera on mobile besides nokia 808. I need to get this phone love android but all android phones have crap for cameras.
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Looks good to me for auto.
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The pictures are not having good low lights as Nokia claims.
ryude said:
Looks like crap, oh well.
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Hmmm that does not look good.
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Maybe because he didnt use the low light setting, but used auto...?
They look like night shots to me. It's tough to guage how good they are without seeing a comparison with another device.
Nokia Lumia 920 vs. Apple iPhone 5 - Photo test: http://wmmania.cz/clanky/recenze/detailni-srovnani-fotoaparatu-nokia-lumia-920-vs-apple-iphone-5/
Nokia Lumia 920 vs. HTC 8X - photos of the day http://wmmania.cz/clanky/recenze/nokia-lumia-920-vs-htc-8x-srovnani-fotoaparatu-umele-osvetleni/
Nokia Lumia 920 vs. HTC 8X - night photo http://wmmania.cz/clanky/recenze/nokia-lumia-920-vs-htc-8x-srovnani-fotoaparatu-nocni-snimky/
Nokia Lumia 920 vs. HTC 8X - artificial lighting http://wmmania.cz/clanky/recenze/nokia-lumia-920-vs-htc-8x-srovnani-fotoaparatu-denni-svetlo/
Everything auto. Appears out of focus on the right.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=d746948c83024bfc&id=D746948C83024BFC!25718
Thought this might apply, I went to the parade of lights show in denver last night, it was relatively dark (around 9pm) but the streetlights were still on. Here's the pictures I took that night with the L920 (the good and the bad). I thought they turned out really well (most of them).
http://sdrv.ms/VdKx9T
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Thought this might apply, I went to the parade of lights show in denver last night, it was relatively dark (around 9pm) but the streetlights were still on. Here's the pictures I took that night with the L920 (the good and the bad). I thought they turned out really well (most of them).
http://sdrv.ms/VdKx9T
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Seem to be hit and miss, just like with any other camera. Difference is that when it hits, it really hits.
You were also taking pictures of motion, which OIS may have a problem with due to how long the shutter stays open to capture more light. Maybe tweaking settings here and there might have helped, but the good pictures were really good.
Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Welcome to mobile cameras, they all throw pixel count at you when what they really need are better sensors. I have NEVER had a phone camera take pictures that didn't have tons of noise and look like complete **** on a decent monitor. In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
Agree^^
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In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
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Can you compare to Maxx HD?
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Great minds think alike．
Disagree.. maybe its your laptop... The pics from my rezound look awesome on my laptop
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Nokia has killer cameras. Even the old models, wish others would follw them
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Have been playing with the camera all day today. Compared to iphone5 this shows lot of noise especially in low light. When cmpared to gs3, noise is marginally higher in low light photos. Under good light conditions, this seems to produce most faithful color reproduction.
Just my observation
Yea, I just compared gsiii and DNA cameras, I think gsiii is better most of the time, but not in color reproduction. But honestly, they are both awful. :thumbdown:
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
Well, what do you expect from a phone's camera? Whatever the camera's hardware is, if 90% of its settings are controlled automatically, the result is most probably going to suck. In a darker scene, this phone's software may want to bump the ISO higher than another phone's software, hence this noise and lack of detail. But anyway, a different camera app and you knowing how to use it will most probably show better results.
For me, a cellphone's camera is not much more than a barcode scanner.
Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
Some comparisons
Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
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Don't forget-I was NOT really holding the camera steady (Tipsy), but my spouse had my S3 and the DNA's pics actually look better in those low-light shots than on the S3. I need to go to the Conservatory and take some daylight shots of all the tropical plants. THAT'S where I usually take my dSLR and even when I took the S3 there, the pics came out great,popping colors, etc.... Let's see how the DNA can handle those.
The difference is amazing!!!
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
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I just downloaded the Camera 360 Ultimate from the Play Store and the difference is very, VERY noticeable. EVERY DNA owner needs to switch immediately. It's COMPLETELY a software issue. I'll be testing other camera apps right now, but this was a drastic improvement!!!
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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On my monitor those pictures look absolutely horrible, grainy and pixely. Are you using a stock camera or a 3rd party one?
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Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Well no camera will ever be like buying a nikon but getting normal point&shoot quality pics isn't much to ask for, nokias are able to achieve it, seems to be just a part of the phone being skimped on. Nothing to stop me frfom buyin though, they are "good enough"
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Dude, something is definitely wrong with your lens. Half those pictures look flat out BLURRY. There are a bevy of example shots from the DNA, just google some and take a look. I'd upload some of my own if it werent for the fact they're already out there. Those pictures you took look like something my 2001 blackberry pearl took.
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
mrpinochio said:
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
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Engaget posted a crapload of example photos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/17/lumia-920-camera-fix/
Until any of us lowly users gets the update that's all the conformation we get.
I am glad there is a thread about this!!!
For all the hype behind that nokia camera!! i found it was TERRIBLE!!! my gf's HTC One X takes amazing pics compared to this Nokia 920!
The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
gilesjuk said:
The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
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lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
dc/dc said:
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
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thanks! makes me feel a lot better knowing that there is hope!
Puff1911 said:
lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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Fair enough.. I haven't done any video with the 920.. so I have no comments on that.
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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jeromel said:
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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Complaints have never been about night photos, but about "soft" daytime photos.
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I've noticed some slight improvement in the sharpness of the photos, but it's still nowhere as sharp as the photos taken with my Samsung Infuse, which is a horrible let-down.
a possible explanation
It's been suggested that maybe only the AT&T firmware carries the camera fix. That would explain why some folks swear their camera is fixed and others don't see the difference. I have a Rogers Lumia 920 and the camera is as awful as it was the first day I got it. The new firmware did nothing.
So for those who did see an improvement, can you confirm what model of Lumia 920 you have? Firmware number, revision number, batch number and all that so we can confirm apples to apples.
Thanks!
I have the AT&T version.. and I haven't been impressed by the camera. Even after the update.. I can see a minor difference.. but I still can't say it's all that great.
IMHO the One X+ is still beating my Nokia L920
Daytime is fine when the objects are near. But landscapes are where it sucks, but it seems to be focus related.
Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?
Pink?
Same roses but taken across the room and zoomed in.
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Might be overexposed. That can happen with any cam. Not sure exactly what that is. A contrast curve of it give you a better idea of what went wrong.
The N10+ grabs good images. Samsung really hasn't provided any great reasons to upgrade from the N10+ in over 3 years. In fact doing away with expandable storage decreased to usability of the devices significantly. As with the N20U-S22U the S23U's form factor and weight sucks compared to the N10+.
It's funny as new vids are appearing with people advocating buying the N10+ instead of a new midrange Samsung and even the S23U. Actual performance gains in normal usage in over 3 years are very minimal. If you compare the N10+ to the N9 the speed increase is quit noticeable though. The N10+ does well with games, the N9 slowness is very apparent.
Rather disheartening.
Those images look bad. Camera issues and display issues, maybe a defective device?
Turn off scene optimizer and wait few days for the official update
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Turn off scene optimizer and wait few days for the official update
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Yes, it might help a little, but won't solve the issue.
I ran some picture tests yesterday (stock camera, 50 and 200Mpx / GCam), and the stock camera app is producing whiter pictures than reality looks like. GCam was slightly more accurate in term of colours.
I disabled the scene optimizer on the stock camera app and retook a few ones, but still: GCam was doing better in term of colours.
looks like software issue, probably will be some updates after a official launch date with fixes after all the testing till now and user reports
I took a few pictures with my Note 10 plus and the color is identical to the s23u. Must be the room lighting. Also the S23u pictures are a lot clearer. I used to think the n10+ was awesome. The future is bright for the s23u
Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.
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Yes, it might help a little, but won't solve the issue.
I ran some picture tests yesterday (stock camera, 50 and 200Mpx / GCam), and the stock camera app is producing whiter pictures than reality looks like. GCam was slightly more accurate in term of colours.
I disabled the scene optimizer on the stock camera app and retook a few ones, but still: GCam was doing better in term of colours.
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Shoot in pro mode - raw, and edit the photo later, or try regular pro mode. My suggestion is to use gcam mostly, and stock for the time when you need something basic, gcam is too powerful to be compared with any stock camera, it literally destroys them in 85% of photography segments.
And also wait few weeks for first few updates to come.
blackhawk said:
Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.
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Its not hype if its used properly.
blackhawk said:
Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.
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Yes we all groan when you post.
dazed1 said:
Its not hype if its used properly.
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this is from LG v20 16MP camera.
LG-H990DS.
my S23 Ultra hands on Feb 17th.
hungtinglung said:
this is from LG v20 16MP camera.
LG-H990DS.
my S23 Ultra hands on Feb 17th.
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I dont see 2 pics but only 1.
dazed1 said:
I dont see 2 pics but only 1.
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my S23 Ultra offline pick up at samsung store on Feb 17th.
how can i shoot photo from that phone before Feb 17th?
hungtinglung said:
my S23 Ultra offline pick up at samsung store on Feb 17th.
how can i shoot photo from that phone before Feb 17th?
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Ok i understand now, 23U will win vs LG very easy in low light, during day in 12MP vs 16 on lg, lg might be even better, but once you are in low light - HDR/high contrast scene, the LG will fall apparat, since the sensor is too small and old.
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A more detailed explanation. 20 mp is a lot of mega... pixels.
In raw mode what's the image bit depth?
blackhawk said:
A more detailed explanation. 20 mp is a lot of mega... pixels.
In raw mode what's the image bit depth?
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this is from may late galaxy note 9.SM-N960F/DS
12MP.