Question Image quality not great - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

Took pictures of red roses I bought for my wife. They are pink. My old Note 10 reproduce color perfectly. Not sure how much I am loving this new phone. Anyone else notice this?

Pink?

Same roses but taken across the room and zoomed in.

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Might be overexposed. That can happen with any cam. Not sure exactly what that is. A contrast curve of it give you a better idea of what went wrong.
The N10+ grabs good images. Samsung really hasn't provided any great reasons to upgrade from the N10+ in over 3 years. In fact doing away with expandable storage decreased to usability of the devices significantly. As with the N20U-S22U the S23U's form factor and weight sucks compared to the N10+.
It's funny as new vids are appearing with people advocating buying the N10+ instead of a new midrange Samsung and even the S23U. Actual performance gains in normal usage in over 3 years are very minimal. If you compare the N10+ to the N9 the speed increase is quit noticeable though. The N10+ does well with games, the N9 slowness is very apparent.
Rather disheartening.

Those images look bad. Camera issues and display issues, maybe a defective device?

Turn off scene optimizer and wait few days for the official update

dazed1 said:
Turn off scene optimizer and wait few days for the official update
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Yes, it might help a little, but won't solve the issue.
I ran some picture tests yesterday (stock camera, 50 and 200Mpx / GCam), and the stock camera app is producing whiter pictures than reality looks like. GCam was slightly more accurate in term of colours.
I disabled the scene optimizer on the stock camera app and retook a few ones, but still: GCam was doing better in term of colours.

looks like software issue, probably will be some updates after a official launch date with fixes after all the testing till now and user reports

I took a few pictures with my Note 10 plus and the color is identical to the s23u. Must be the room lighting. Also the S23u pictures are a lot clearer. I used to think the n10+ was awesome. The future is bright for the s23u

Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.

Jaxom84 said:
Yes, it might help a little, but won't solve the issue.
I ran some picture tests yesterday (stock camera, 50 and 200Mpx / GCam), and the stock camera app is producing whiter pictures than reality looks like. GCam was slightly more accurate in term of colours.
I disabled the scene optimizer on the stock camera app and retook a few ones, but still: GCam was doing better in term of colours.
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Shoot in pro mode - raw, and edit the photo later, or try regular pro mode. My suggestion is to use gcam mostly, and stock for the time when you need something basic, gcam is too powerful to be compared with any stock camera, it literally destroys them in 85% of photography segments.
And also wait few weeks for first few updates to come.

blackhawk said:
Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.
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Its not hype if its used properly.

blackhawk said:
Groan... The high mp count is hype. This 200 or their 108mp sensors haven't revolutionized digital photography... but it sounds so impressive.
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Yes we all groan when you post.

dazed1 said:
Its not hype if its used properly.
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this is from LG v20 16MP camera.
LG-H990DS.
my S23 Ultra hands on Feb 17th.

hungtinglung said:
this is from LG v20 16MP camera.
LG-H990DS.
my S23 Ultra hands on Feb 17th.
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I dont see 2 pics but only 1.

dazed1 said:
I dont see 2 pics but only 1.
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my S23 Ultra offline pick up at samsung store on Feb 17th.
how can i shoot photo from that phone before Feb 17th?

hungtinglung said:
my S23 Ultra offline pick up at samsung store on Feb 17th.
how can i shoot photo from that phone before Feb 17th?
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Ok i understand now, 23U will win vs LG very easy in low light, during day in 12MP vs 16 on lg, lg might be even better, but once you are in low light - HDR/high contrast scene, the LG will fall apparat, since the sensor is too small and old.

dazed1 said:
Its not hype if its used properly.
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A more detailed explanation. 20 mp is a lot of mega... pixels.
In raw mode what's the image bit depth?

blackhawk said:
A more detailed explanation. 20 mp is a lot of mega... pixels.
In raw mode what's the image bit depth?
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this is from may late galaxy note 9.SM-N960F/DS
12MP.

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Interesting note on the 6P's camera

With all this talk about cameras and comparing it with other phones like the Note 5 / S6, iPhone 6S, etc.
A little fact I noticed that I haven't seen brought up by reviewers is the 6P's sensor size. It has one of the largest sensors in a PHONE. In fact, the sensor size is equivalent to point and shoots:
Nexus 6P: 1/2.3"
Galaxy S6 / Note 5: 1/2.6"
iPhone 6S: 1/3"
iPhone 6: 1/3"
Xperia Z5: 1/2.3"
Canon Powershot SX610HS: 1/2.3"
Sony Cybershot DSC-RX10 II: 1" :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
During the launch it was mentioned by Huawei and Google that the sensor used in 6P was originally developed for camcorders .. So the large size is understandable and that may also be the reason for that hump design
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It was also part of the reason that OIS was not implemented because it would not fit.
Can someone explain to us photography novices what the advantage of a larger sensor is?
mrsean said:
Can someone explain to us photography novices what the advantage of a larger sensor is?
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larger sensor = larger area = larger pixels
pixels is what senses light and makes the picture... the more light they absorb the better the picture quality specially in lower light
Smaller than the M8 though I think.
Batfink33 said:
Smaller than the M8 though I think.
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I just did a quick check and the M8 had a 1/3"...so same size as the iphones
mosincredible said:
It was also part of the reason that OIS was not implemented because it would not fit.
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Doesn't the Z5 have OIS? I'm sure it could've been done but would've increase the price of the phone quite a bit. I personally don't think OIS would be worth the cost/benefit for photos. For video sure it helps, but I don't care that much about video.
Granted the Sony's Xperia is not nearly as popular or available as a phone in the states as it is Overseas. When I was in Asia a couple months ago there were Xperias everywhere.
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Doesn't the Z5 have OIS? I'm sure it could've been done but would've increase the price of the phone quite a bit. I personally don't think OIS would be worth the cost/benefit for photos. For video sure it helps, but I don't care that much about video.
Granted the Sony's Xperia is not nearly as popular or available as a phone in the states as it is Overseas. When I was in Asia a couple months ago there were Xperias everywhere.
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The Z5 has digital image stabilization.
mrsean said:
Can someone explain to us photography novices what the advantage of a larger sensor is?
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A larger sensor has more surface area allowing it to adsorb more light. Light is the information used to capture an image and a larger sensor will have more of it. Camera sensors and optics are very much limited by physics. There are other things at play like pixel size which will be determined by megapixels over surface area and ISO sensitivity, but generally everything improves as the sensor get larger with the tradeoff of increased size.
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Can someone explain to us photography novices what the advantage of a larger sensor is?
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Large sensor=large pixels= less noise in image. Noise is the bane of cameras and will make any pro photographer cringe.
For the same reason Pro level DSLRs are not very high in megapixel (getting less and less valid however) because they can keep the pixel size large on their huge sensors. For a long time the top end Canon and Nikon were only 12.1MP, might not seem like a lot but on a huge sensor it lets in a butt ton of light. This reduces noise which is the biggest issues in cameras. You will notice if you take a picture at night and its really grainy, that is noise and destroys quality. Also the large pixel size lets in more light so at night time exposures can be quicker and less blurry. The main reason why the 6P is keeping up with cameras with OIS, because it can take faster exposures. I can only imagine how good this camera would be at night with OIS.
itch808 said:
I just did a quick check and the M8 had a 1/3"...so same size as the iphones
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Although the M8 had larger sensels, it just had a lot less of them so the sensor was smaller. M8 and M7 had 2µm sensels versus our 1.55µm.
I don't think you've read many reviews...
Lots of reviews have mentioned this and the sensor size has been highlighted by Google.
But the S6 is said to have a 1/2" sensor so 6P can shine for now
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Can someone explain to us photography novices what the advantage of a larger sensor is?
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The advantages of a large image sensor means that each light pixel is further away from each other creating less electrical noise which translates into "grainy" pictures using high ISOs
There's a camera discussion thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nexus-6p-camera-t3216218
No need for two. :good:
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OPX camera

Hi all ,
I bought OPX 4 days ago. I checked camera is worst than ever I used in phones even yuphoria an lowest budget phone has 8mp camera but its 10 times better than OPX 13 mp camera.
Is it a os issue or hardware issue?
Does all u guys having such issue plz guide me.
Try camera FV-5 app. I use it with my OPO and it takes great pictures.
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A new camera app isn't going to change the results because the problem is partially hardware-related and partially firmware related:
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The OnePlus X's camera may have the same megapixel count as its more expensive brethren, but the similarities end there. Yes, it's got a 13-megapixel sensor, but it's a smaller sensor than the OnePlus 2's, and so lets in less light. It's also placed behind an f/2.2 lens, which is a third-stop slower than the lens on the 2. The result of these concessions is a much poorer experience.
In good lighting conditions, the X can capture a decent amount of detail, but it's difficult to predict whether you'll get a good photo. There's just no consistency here; in a typical five-minute shooting period, I saw underexposed and overexposed photos, vibrant colors, subdued colors and totally inaccurate colors. The X is quick to focus, though, and shutter lag is minimal.
In low light, things get worse. I took the phone along to an industry event featuring live music, and happily snapped away. During the show the images seemed fine, but I came home to find they were universally bad. There's an over-aggressive anti-noise algorithm that sucks all the detail out of photos, and the daylight exposure and color issues carry over as well.
I'm not sure that all of the OnePlus X's problems are due to the sensor; it's more likely the software. That's not to say that OnePlus can fix everything -- this will never be a great camera -- but white balance and exposure settings seem like something OnePlus could improve through updates. And it really needs updates.
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Software updates won't change the fact that it's a small-ish sensor behind mediocre glass. A so-so camera is all this phone has.
CafeKampuchia said:
Software updates won't change the fact that it's a small-ish sensor behind mediocre glass. A so-so camera is all this phone has.
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Agree - updates won't radically change the quality, but they can improve it.
Also, if camera is that important to people, you'll have to spend at least double than what you are spending for the X.
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Agree - updates won't radically change the quality, but they can improve it.
Also, if camera is that important to people, you'll have to spend at least double than what you are spending for the X.
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I don't agree. Xiaomi mi4c got great camera and is just a little more expensive.
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yes the whole Xiaomi series including the Mi4, Mi4i and Mi4c have better camera then Opx..
But then if you are buying a oneplus you are surely not doing it for the camera.
I also have a mi4 that has a way better camera. But the MIUI launcher sucks. Also the custom rom scene for MIUI is active but childish.
Tyga187 said:
I don't agree. Xiaomi mi4c got great camera and is just a little more expensive.
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Sure, but it doesn't have an sd card slot.. Let's face it, there is no phone that is perfect for that price, there will always be something that people will not like.

Can Camera Performance be improved on Redmi Note 3

Can camera performance be improved with software tweaks or is it just that Redmi Note 3 uses uses bad hardware/sensor?
I suspect that the problem is related to the sensor/hardware
In poor light conditions the camera is bull****, but in good light is pretty good, idk why because the sensor is f/2.0
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, it's a hardware thingy. Numbers aren't meant anymore. You can see, the camera is 16MP with f/2.0, but it's quality says otherwise.
I compared photos taken with RN3 with Mi4i's, having f/2.0 sensor as well. The photos taken with Mi4i were crisp & clear and with RN3, were noisy & grainy. I guess, Xiaomi didn't use a good sensor to cut down the price.
I wonder if it is upscaling some phones are really like 8 MP but use software interpoling to upscale, so I guess you could try taking a picture at 8 or 13 MP and see if there is any difference - just an idea, I will test when I get some time.
otyg said:
I wonder if it is upscaling some phones are really like 8 MP but use software interpoling to upscale, so I guess you could try taking a picture at 8 or 13 MP and see if there is any difference - just an idea, I will test when I get some time.
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I don't think this is happening. It's not a matter of lack of resolution, it's more to do with sensor quality. Xiaomi wouldn't lie about their cameras.
Guys the pixel size from the kenzo is one of the smallest on the market. In good light the pictures are pretty good. But in more dark areas the pictures are really bad, thats because of the pixel size. Its hardware limited and there aren't many software improvements. So live with it or buy another phone
Can use hardware camera from other device and patch kernel and drivers?
nexuspur said:
Guys the pixel size from the kenzo is one of the smallest on the market. In good light the pictures are pretty good. But in more dark areas the pictures are really bad, thats because of the pixel size. Its hardware limited and there aren't many software improvements. So live with it or buy another phone
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I have no complaints, the pictures look similar to my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 , perhaps because of the samsung brand cmos ..ok actually I'm not sure what sensor is in the samsung tablet,
I did notice my samsung tablet has way better closeup zoom capabilities though, where the kenzo will start to blur at same range - not a huge deal unless you need to take pictures of flowers or bugs ...etc, perhaps it has a macro mode I missed, haven't had too much time to mess around with the camera - I'll get to it eventually
(Camera)Damn that's saddening.But maybe the little software improvements can give some changes you know...
Everyone should post a sample picture from their device using the stock camera app(don't forget to turn off geo-tagging), to see if the output is similar across multiple rn3p maybe some have better/worse sensors?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the OnePlus 8 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pretty disappointing top be honest. I still need to take more shots but I am finding inconsistency in exposure.
worldsoutro said:
Pretty disappointing top be honest. I still need to take more shots but I am finding inconsistency in exposure.
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Get the Gcam app installed and all your woes will be gone.
Demolition49 said:
Get the Gcam app installed and all your woes will be gone.
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Which gcam would you install? Or does it need to be modified for this phone?
G cam from 7T works on the 8pro except no telephoto camera crashes the app when enabled
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/GCam_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.3.apk
Photos have been a huge step up in quality from my 6t (not surprising). Does anyone know how to force the app to take in 48MP by default? There is no option that I can see to change that.
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G cam from 7T works on the 8pro except no telephoto camera crashes the app when enabled
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/GCam_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.3.apk
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What config file do you use?
Been impressed with the camera so far. Telephoto is still hit and miss and haven't used wide angle loads but the main sensor is a big improvement over the 7 pro
I think the camera is amazing, especially super macro.
Had a little mooch around St James park for exercise during lockdown.
Yeah op did a good job this time.
Skates
I hope gcam comes when support for all the sensors
And don't forget the colour filter camera is actual an X-RAY cam!
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/ga7cm3/oneplus_8_pro_color_filter_camera_see_through/
There's already a gcam group on telegram, and it's producing good results
I have terrible lens flare effect, device is going back.. 1/4 of the pictures had it... At a price tag of 999 , this is not acceptable for me.. saw it on some youtuber reviews to (but they didnt mention it in one word). Guess exchanging the device will not help
Will keep my old device for a couple of months and wait for october , hehe
autofocus and main sensor is better then s20 ultra , I am owner of s20 ultra and oneplus 8 pro at the same time .
in worse light scenario oneplus win in most time , photos almost always are sharp
but in zoom S20 always wins
Mtha86 said:
I have terrible lens flare effect, device is going back.. 1/4 of the pictures had it... At a price tag of 999 , this is not acceptable for me.. saw it on some youtuber reviews to (but they didnt mention it in one word). Guess exchanging the device will not help
Will keep my old device for a couple of months and wait for october , hehe
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I see an issue where you have red blotches :laugh:
I haven't experienced the sun flare.
I have taken many pictures outdoors while hiking in various conditions and I am mostly happy with the camera. HDR is good and i like the exposure and colors I get. I don't really take any zoomed in shots so i can't speak to that but I generally like the shots coming out of the wide angle and main sensor.
a couple notes:
- I still notice a different white balance between the main and wide angle camera. Nothing bad and I still like both results
- Nightscape photos I notice a red tint in places. Some of the youtube reviews have mentioned this as well.
Will be interesting to see what this camera could do after a few updates over the summer.
I see that something in the indoor photo the focus is very bad at the corner of the picture... Someone has the same problem?

General Galaxy S23 Ultra camera performance

I've had the phone for a couple of days now ant the battery life is stellar but the camera is such a disappointment. Compared with the S22 Ultra it lets in less light and the pictures are overall darker. Same goes for low light pictures, the S22 Ultra is consistently brighter in all scenarios. It reminds me of the difference between my iPhone 13Pro and my S22 Ultra last year the former always capturing more light. To be honest I was expecting the opposite to be true with all the reviewers clamoring about the S23 Ultra's better low life performance and camera overall. I'm really not impressed so far.
Anyone else still in possession of both phones? What's your experience been like? Any suggestions? Did I miss something in the setting? So many questions
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
blackhawk said:
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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For sure. I totally get that. The thing is all the reviewers said that the s23u captured more light and that has yet to materialize for me. They were using the same software. To your point, the software should get better but I feel as though this is a hardware thing. But I'm no expert.
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Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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I don't have my phone yet but there is a setting somewhere that you can choose between 200 MP, 50 MP or 12 MP in settings.
mrnovanova said:
Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
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Try shooting raws, at least 3 f/stops more exposure and WB correction. Downside is the post processing effort/time required.
The issue may simply be the firmware instruction set. Samsung is notorious for dialing things in after the release. I'm still happily running N10+'s on Pie and Q. I demand a dual drive capable device. I'm not pleased at all by the newer Android versions from Gookill either.
The dead zone between pixels on such a small sensor with such a huge pixel count is concerning as is the individual pixel microlense quality. Even 20mp is pushing it. Canon full frame sensors are maxed out at about 26mp.
Regardless of the camera learning it's capabilities, limitations and shooting effectively within those boundaries is what grabs keepers.
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Is it the camera or the display?
Check/compare images on a properly color calibrated monitor... yeah, it's a can of worms.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have
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I'll try tomorrow
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I'll try tomorrow
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I'll try tomorrow! This app is so wonky for me. I'll try tomorrow and post the pics.
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
Edit: @blackhawk was spot on. They were both from the S22u. I have such a hard time with the app. I re-uploaded the correct pics. Left S23u Right S22u.
Paul_Deemer said:
I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
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Poor example; different shooting heights skews the results. The AF lock on point is also different so the bottle's print is out of focus in the one shot. Light metering and colors look near identical in both.
blackhawk said:
I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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That might work for Photos but not very well for videos especially when you are zooming in 20x. Here's is an example where I have S22U on a tripod and zoom in on a waterfall from across the canyon and pan up and down. No way you gonna do it that smoothly holding it in your hands even braced. So for videos I love the tripod. It's the very lightest one they make and perfect for cell phones or light cameras. Change YouTube resolution to 1080p for best viewing.

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