Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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For $50 you can't go wrong with the DNA. Yes, you can root, unlock bootloader and put on custom ROM's with the DNA. The process to root, unlock, S-Off is extremely easy thanks to Moonshine and then it's just a matter of downloading Goomanager from the Google Play and flashing TWRP recovery. There are a lot of ROM's to choose from as this phone still has great developer support. The screen resolution and battery are far better on the DNA than the Galaxy S3. Hell, I would take the DNA over the S4 to be honest with you.
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For $50 you can't go wrong with the DNA. Yes, you can root, unlock bootloader and put on custom ROM's with the DNA. The process to root, unlock, S-Off is extremely easy thanks to Moonshine and then it's just a matter of downloading Goomanager from the Google Play and flashing TWRP recovery. There are a lot of ROM's to choose from as this phone still has great developer support. The screen resolution and battery are far better on the DNA than the Galaxy S3. Hell, I would take the DNA over the S4 to be honest with you.
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Thanks for your input. and yes i forgot to mention the battery life. my S2's battery life is lackluster as well, and i have been reading and viewing material around the web saying the DNA's battery is almost as horrible. I was hoping a clean and sense-less rom would fix that.
atoms83 said:
Thanks for your input. and yes i forgot to mention the battery life. my S2's battery life is lackluster as well, and i have been reading and viewing material around the web saying the DNA's battery is almost as horrible. I was hoping a clean and sense-less rom would fix that.
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I've found underclocking on a aosp Rom gives the best battery life. It will last you through the day with light to moderate use regardless. Battery life is pretty bad for a heavy user tho
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atoms83 said:
Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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Non-Sense ROMs are all based on the CM10.1 work that is in progress. It is perfect for some users and unusable for others because not everything is working. If CyanogenMod/aokp is important to you, look in the original development thread to understand if it will currently work for you.
Have used both the galaxy s3 and s4 and to me the dNA is the best phone out currently as long as the 16gb of storage is enough for you. The sense 5 roms are awesome and it's easy to root etc with moonshine. Sense 5 roms are much better then the aosp aokp roms. Sense 5 is the best interface I have ever seen on a phone
Battery life is great. I get well over 4 hours screen time and it lasts all day easily.
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im a light user, but after flashing beaups kernel on NOS M7, my phone has been on for 34 hours and i have 20% left lol
I came from the s3 to the dna through a warranty replacement and I do not regret it. Snappy phone even stock add viper rom and you will drool with this device.
My dad has an S3 and my DNA absolutely blows it out of the water. If you are wanting to keep it for the next two years, I'd go with the One as long you don't mind the slightly smaller screen. The reasons being: Boomsound if you listen to a lot of music, more storage, and more support from HTC/Verizon since its the current flagship. The One is only SLIGHTLY faster performance wise. Not enough to really detect a difference. The DNA is a great device, and I haven't regretted owning it for a minute. THE ONLY device I consider superior to the DNA is the Butterfly S, but it's not even available in the US.
In shorter words, Get the One or the DNA. Whichever suits you best.
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Yep dNa and the butterfly are the best phones out. I agree
Thanks a lot guys I guess i'll be giving it a shot. If i don't like it, like i said, I will get a Moto X. I drive a lot for my job so mostly i'll be using maps and maybe bluethtoothing some music once in a while. Having a nice big phone that can handle navigating and not constantly dropping gps/data service will be nice. Hopefully all that stuff works with a decent rom.
All your input was greatly appreciated thanks a lot.
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Thanks a lot guys I guess i'll be giving it a shot. If i don't like it, like i said, I will get a Moto X. I drive a lot for my job so mostly i'll be using maps and maybe bluethtoothing some music once in a while. Having a nice big phone that can handle navigating and not constantly dropping gps/data service will be nice. Hopefully all that stuff works with a decent rom.
All your input was greatly appreciated thanks a lot.
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Np, hTCs hardware is superior to Samsung. The radios are worlds better.
i have a dna and if i was you id get a gs4, everyone and their grandmother is going to have or already has this phone and the development is going to be far far beyond the dna, just like every galaxy before it, they already have every option available, while the dna is only losing popularity, im sure someone will dispute what ive said, but thats what the internet it all about.
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i have a dna and if i was you id get a gs4, everyone and their grandmother is going to have or already has this phone and the development is going to be far far beyond the dna, just like every galaxy before it, they already have every option available, while the dna is only losing popularity, im sure someone will dispute what ive said, but thats what the internet it all about.
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I don't believe this phone is losing popularity it wasn't popular to begin with. That being said those of us who use phones based on sheer performance and overall design would definitely agree that The DNA is better than the gs4.. yes the gs4 will have a ton more development and it's aosp will be more functional than the DNA because it has a aosp version supported by Google.. though the phone it's not that appealing and it's just a updated gs3 in every since... I have had all phones on Verizon. The DNA is the best at the moment though I am planning to jump ship once the motorla x is available next month...
Let me add the DNA has pretty good development for a not so popular older brother of the HTC one.
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I don't believe this phone is losing popularity it wasn't popular to begin with. That being said those of us who use phones based on sheer performance and overall design would definitely agree that The DNA is better than the gs4.. yes the gs4 will have a ton more development and it's aosp will be more functional than the DNA because it has a aosp version supported by Google.. though the phone it's not that appealing and it's just a updated gs3 in every since... I have had all phones on Verizon. The DNA is the best at the moment though I am planning to jump ship once the motorla x is available next month...
Let me add the DNA has pretty good development for a not so popular older brother of the HTC one.
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I'm just curious why would you go to a moto x when the DNA has the much better specs
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I'm just curious why would you go to a moto x when the DNA has the much better specs
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I will still have my DNA for switching but this seems to be Google's baby and I can't miss out... I believe Google doesn't think the hardware needs to be that Mich for android to run efficiently and will show how less hardware can be just as good... Here's to my hope being true...lol..
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Yeah makes sense. I wasn't bashing you or anything... Just curious
I'm ruined now... I don't think I will ever be able to go to anything that has less then a 1080p screen
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I am about to get this phone tomorrow, and i was also wondering if i'm going to unlock (or s-off in the htc world?) this phone and flash AOKP or other stock android roms, should i not accept any incoming OTA updates once i open it up and turn it on? based from what i have read it seems like the latest update makes it impossible to unlock or s-off or whatever and install custom roms on the device. I'm gonna make sure the unit will be fresh and un-opened.
Also, I was planning on getting the Moto X because to me its verizons answer to a nexus. I prefer stock android and personally i think sense ui is awful. If this phone proves to be fast and reliable i will keep it for the time being, otherwise its a quick 49 dollar 1080p phone.
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I am about to get this phone tomorrow, and i was also wondering if i'm going to unlock (or s-off in the htc world?) this phone and flash AOKP or other stock android roms, should i not accept any incoming OTA updates once i open it up and turn it on? based from what i have read it seems like the latest update makes it impossible to unlock or s-off or whatever and install custom roms on the device. I'm gonna make sure the unit will be fresh and un-opened.
Also, I was planning on getting the Moto X because to me its verizons answer to a nexus. I prefer stock android and personally i think sense ui is awful. If this phone proves to be fast and reliable i will keep it for the time being, otherwise its a quick 49 dollar 1080p phone.
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Yes accept the update so you can properly unlock and root the phone.. you have to have the update to do moonshine.
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The one thing I would keep in mind, since you said you use GPS, is the extra step to get it working on the CM based ROMs. It isn't hard and just took me a few minutes but going on a trip with my GPS not working. At least we had my wife's phone!
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Has anyone made this switch? I currently have a stock HTC Incredible. I had custom ROMs on it but went back to stock and stayed there. I love the Fascinate hardware just not the stock software. I was thinking of picking one up and flashing the new Community ROM. How does the Community ROM compare to stock Sense on the Incredible? (if anyone has made the switch themselves)
-I need it to work with an Exchange email account
-Google Navigation/GPS to work flawlessly
Should I just stick with the Incredible? Or would the Community ROM work for me?
Over all the experience will be simpler and less cluttered without sense. My phone is super fast and smooth with the comrom. My gps works great. The only problem for you will be the lack of htc sync. Other than that everything will be an improvement especially the screen.
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I just made the same switch a few weeks ago. The 2 things I miss about the dinc are CM7 nightlies and the ease of flashing (no odin, recovery/radio confusion, etc). I'm loving the superior processor, gpu, and screen on the fascinate. I'd say go for it. Get a case though. This thing is a wet bar of soap.
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Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.
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Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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Com Rom works flawlessly with Exchange email.
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My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.
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I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long
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I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long
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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.
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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.
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Yeah, I always intended to get the SGS2 but who knows if/when that will be here especially for Verizon. Just wanted something to tide me over. Even though the Incredible is a great phone I get bored of my phones so quickly.
Hopefully the SGS2 comes by September but I won't hold my breath.
I made the switch a week ago, though I still have my incredible in case I want to go back. The main reason I bought the fascinate was for the super amoled 4 inch screen and it just officially got 2.2. Very nice phone and it was kind of cool learning the rooting process all over again. Its definitely not as easy as the incredible, especially since I can't use rom manager with it but its not like its that bad. I am a rom whore though so that much I do miss about the incredible.I'm basically jumping back and forth from community and evil roms. I use different kernels and undervolting to occupy my time.
I got mine for 200 on craigslist in perfect condition with a case and screen protectors. I wouldn't pay more since it seems it will soon be fazed out like the inc and the development isn't as strong as htc, though I wish it was. I don't mean that as the devs are bad, just not as many. The fascinate seems to have absorbed alt of the great devs from the eris.
As far as those things you need working, I don't use them so i can't help you there. sorry.
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Hi all, just need a few opinions from some people, and who better to ask than Rezound owners themselves? Currently I have my TBolt and I love it except a few things are starting to go bad with it. The haptic feedback is starting to go out, it doesn't always vibrate when I'm getting a call or text even though I know for a fact I have it set on vibrate and the back lights on the capacitive buttons are starting not to work all the time. It's just starting to get a little annoying. So I was thinking of either getting a replacement TBolt or possibly upgrading to the Rezound. I wanted to know if this phone was worth getting or if I should just stick with this TBolt til the next gen Verizon HTC phone came out. Thanks
coming from both a tbolt and a dinc2 id say yes, it's worth the upgrade.
Came from inc2, get it and you won't be able to put it down
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No I hate it!! It has too good of a screen and too good of signal strength.
Coming from the incredible, it's a substantial upgrade. I'd say try to get a rezound as a replacement to the thunderbolt. Maybe make a big deal about it. If not, I'd personally say to wait until a One X variant comes to Verizon.
I came from the evo4G and my wife has a tbolt this phone smokes both of them love it so much I would say wait for the HTC one but sources say it won't be on.Verizon just sprint and att. But you won't regret getting this phone
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antispiral said:
No I hate it!! It has too good of a screen and too good of signal strength.
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Lol
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Lol
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I came from a bolt. I think its a substantial upgrade, but I stole my girls upgrade and gave her my bolt to get this. So...definatly a $300 substantial upgrade. Idk about 600+ for retail. The screen is gorgeous and updating like 11 market apps while using your phone without a hiccup is very nice. Do miss the kickstand though lol
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I came from the tbolt, complained over and over, and after going through 5 tbolts they said I was worthy of switching devices. Asked and received the rezound. Substantial improvement. Even with mostly just sense based roms available, the difference is dramatic. I'd definitely say upgrade to the rez!
I agree. worth the update now that ICS can be used daily. within time we'll have custom kernels and eventually aosp
if I helped then hit the "thanks" option
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Yes. But don't blame us if something better comes out the day after you upgrade.
I mean, the decision is ultimately up to you.
Rezound upgrade
I had a Thunderbolt and now am using a Rezound. I absolutely love this phone. I am also happy with ICS and appreciate all the devs hard work.
Let's just say I was waiting in anticipation for this phone when this was still called the Vigor!
I had the Thunderbolt. Bought the Rezound and never looked back. Alot more memory.
On the leaked stock ICS RUU and loving it.
The screen on the rezound is amazing and the batt life is decent, but there's no S-off and there's really not a lot of dev work going on for this phone. Only a couple of roms to choose from. Depends on what you're really looking for. Stock phone with a great display, then absolutely its worth the upgrade. If you like doing lots of flashing and a wide selection of roms, then absolutely not.
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The screen on the rezound is amazing and the batt life is decent, but there's no S-off and there's really not a lot of dev work going on for this phone. Only a couple of roms to choose from. Depends on what you're really looking for. Stock phone with a great display, then absolutely its worth the upgrade. If you like doing lots of flashing and a wide selection of roms, then absolutely not.
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This. Tbolt had different sense version roms, aosp roms, miui, senseless. We have sense and senseless
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What's limiting us is the inability to gain S-Off, either way I prefer smaller groups of custom roms available versus nearly every dev working on the device. It can potentially make a huge jumble of a mess. I think the rom that came pre-flashed on it is actually very good, so why try to fix what's not broken.
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What's limiting us is the inability to gain S-Off, either way I prefer smaller groups of custom roms available versus nearly every dev working on the device. It can potentially make a huge jumble of a mess. I think the rom that came pre-flashed on it is actually very good, so why try to fix what's not broken.
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I don't know about you but I'd want there to be as many devs as possible.
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I don't know about you but I'd want there to be as many devs as possible.
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the more devs the better. i know some are comfortable with what we have and im not bashing but if we had more devs im sure s-off and aosp would probably be here already. the rezound is still a good device non the less.
I find it awkward that people say they like the feel of the extendable battery. I thought that was one of the reasons people went HTC over Samsung because of the perceived build quality. None of my Samsung phones have ever creaked as bad as this phone does with the extended battery put on. Makes it feel even worse than my old MT3G.
and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?
Yes.
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Yes.
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thank you for your well thought out and informative answer.
Try the development section
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grimey01 said:
and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?
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A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
Edit: also HTC hasn't released some driver code, so devs are having a hard time fixing things in their ICS builds.
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A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
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theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)
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theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)
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I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/
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I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/
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the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!
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Try the development section
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ROFL!!!! I was laughing for a good 5 minutes. Lol
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the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!
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I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.
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I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.
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yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?
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yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?
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Yeah I know what you mean. I love the Amaze; I think it's an excellent phone with a great camera/specs/etc, but I do hope that it gets some more dev love once that S-OFF tool is released. (Actually as soon as we get our first fully functional ICS rom, I think I will love this phone forever....and by that I mean until I see a shiny new phone lol). ICS is just so smooth. I installed an ICS ROM on my MT4G, and I can immediately see a huge increase in performance over CyanogenMod 7.
Off contract, I'd probably guess ~$600-650 for the S. If TMo gets the X, I'm sure it will be the most expensive Android phone ever seen haha (probably $700-750).
there's no development now for the amaze because nobody wants to put in hours in a rom that they know nobody will use once the update comes out. So now's the time nobody's doing anything, and you won't see anything new til 4.0 comes out. Good things will happen when 4.0 is released
Don't get me wrong, the amaze is the best device I've owned, there is just a lack of info and support from tmo and htc. Hopefully with s off, more devs will come, so yes buy it
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both of your trivial questions could be answered with simple observation...
Q. "why is there no development?"
A. um, maybe because we have only have a few devs here? maybe because we had s-on for the longest until recently? who knows?
Q. "what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?"
A. most of us here arent shopping for a new amaze...have you tried ebay? how about craigslist?
not trying to be an ass, but people come in here every day asking superfluous questions when a little legwork on their own would answer these types of questions...
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I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.
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I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.
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i always thought HTC was good to the tweakers... XDA was built for HTC phones after all..
the only hardware issue i hear about this phone is some light-leaking near the bottom-side ends of the screen. not a big deal at all compared to sensations problems, although the sensation looks a lot better IMO
ill get the amaze. s-off and ICS seems like itll happen soon
hopefully development picks up
I agree with wanting aosp ics, but I kind of like sense on GB. The vanilla ui of ics is great though and doesn't need sense.
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I don't think HTC is going to push ICS out till the One series is fully launched.
I'm in the process of getting a new phone and I have narrowed my choices down between the Galaxy Nexus and HTC Rezound.
Thoughts on any devices concerning speed, lag, usability, size, screen, glitches, rooting simplicity, rom selections, hacks and mods, etc.. will all be appreciated.
Thanks!
Well if you're looking for long term dev both will be good but from what I've seen, unless you get a GSM Nexus you won't see too much dev support as of now, fewer people are working with it. As far as performance both are practically on par. Just depends on wether you like aosp or sense.
Can't the rezound get stock android anyway?
There is currently no AOSP available for the rezound, though there are several devs working on it.
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Are you completely satisfied with your phone? Or longer for something a little more?
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Are you completely satisfied with your phone? Or longer for something a little more?
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The Rezound is the better of the two, but I'd just wait another month for the SGS3, even if it is kinda fugly.
I have always loved android at heart.. while owning several Mac computers I also like apple, but I feel android is more capable in the end. Let me tell u qwikly why this is important. I love the ability to do whatever with android, but in the days (first several months) of the iPhone 4, there was no android that could touch it overall. Trust me, I had the evo and dinc. Loved end, the iPhone just did everything better. Then to 4S, however was a placeholder for GNex. Returned it, severely disappointed. Let my mom use my iPhone to travel over seas, borrowed her rezound, sold iPhone a week after she brought it back. Live my rezound. Only phone I've seen that can beat the iPhone. Alot claim their do, but I can tell u from experience rezoubd does.
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Any android phone beats an apple product.
But I would personally go for the rezound. HTC sense is a very nice user interface. It's clean, pretty to look at and not boring like Samsung phones. Although, if and when cm9 comes out for the rezound, it will be my daily mainly because of battery life and total customization that can end up looking better than sense. Samsung phones freeze all the time according to several users I know.
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Do you have a specific need to upgrade right now? Companies are coming out with the next generation of phones (One S/Incredible 4G, One X, Galaxy S3, etc.), and the benchmarks show that they pretty soundly beat the Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. If you can wait, I would try to go for one of those phones instead. I would have waited if it were an option. (Admittedly, with Verizon there's no telling how long those will take to be released.)
Overall I like the Rezound, I love the screen, but am disappointed at a number of its drawbacks.
On the plus side, you can unlock the bootloader easily, and you can get S-Off, so installing custom ROMs are quite feasible. On the down side, these steps are more convoluted than other phones.
While the screen is amazing, it will chew through your battery very quickly if you're using anything more than 30% brightness. If you're a heavy user, I wouldn't be surprised at around 10 hours of life with the stock battery.
While the phone comes with beats headphones, the Rezound seems to have some shielding issues. I get noise while playing music and downloading/uploading anything on either 3G or 4G (not an uncommon problem with the Rezound).
The screen size is ideal for me at 4.3", but the phone is a little chunky and can get quite hot in normal usage.
I'm happy with the phone thanks to the decent development going on, but do feel some regret in not being able to pick up one of the new upcoming phones.
I'm happy I choose my rezound. My friend who returned his for a nexus has much more problems I think he's on number 4 right now. His signal is atrocious compared to mine
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How easy is this beast to root? I've been hearing all sorts of things about s-off and HTC unlock and it all seems way more complicated than my moto dx2's one click method.
I am not actually upgrading, I'm getting a new phone but to last me to my upgrade a year from now exactly.
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How easy is this beast to root? I've been hearing all sorts of things about s-off and HTC unlock and it all seems way more complicated than my moto dx2's one click method.
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Here is the link to the s-off thread. . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25144666
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I am lucky to have two lines; one with the Rezound and the other with the GNex. Both certainly have their strong points but what makes the difference is how you choose to use it. As for development, the Nexus will always have a leg up. Although it may not be as robust as the GSM Nexus there is definitely a solid Dev community for the LTE Nexus. You have many Roms to choose from and kernels, themes etc.... There is definitely something to be said for how easy the Nexus can be unlocked. In about five minutes after purchasing your Nexus you could be flashing your first Rom. This is not the case for the Rezound. There are a lot of steps, some of which are convoluted, to get the Rezound to be boot-loader unlocked with S-off. Once you have the Rezound unlocked it is a great phone with tons of possibilities. The Dev community for the Rezound does exist but certainly doesn't compare to the Nexus. As far as hardware goes the Rezound takes the lead. Here are a few of its advantages: up-gradable microSD card (I have the 64 GB Ultra), 1.5 GHz Dual-core processor, HTC Sense (depends on preference). For me personally I like both phones for different reasons. I don't believe I have ever hot-wired a phone before (Rezound) especially to get S-off but it is worth the hassle in the end. As a side note, S-off for the Rezound has only recently been achieved so that may up its value in terms of the development community. I love both of these phones but if asked outright I would say the Rezound is the "better" phone. If development is first on your list get the Nexus.
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I am lucky to have two lines; one with the Rezound and the other with the GNex. Both certainly have their strong points but what makes the difference is how you choose to use it. As for development, the Nexus will always have a leg up. Although it may not be as robust as the GSM Nexus there is definitely a solid Dev community for the LTE Nexus. You have many Roms to choose from and kernels, themes etc.... There is definitely something to be said for how easy the Nexus can be unlocked. In about five minutes after purchasing your Nexus you could be flashing your first Rom. This is not the case for the Rezound. There are a lot of steps, some of which are convoluted, to get the Rezound to be boot-loader unlocked with S-off. Once you have the Rezound unlocked it is a great phone with tons of possibilities. The Dev community for the Rezound does exist but certainly doesn't compare to the Nexus. As far as hardware goes the Rezound takes the lead. Here are a few of its advantages: up-gradable microSD card (I have the 64 GB Ultra), 1.5 GHz Dual-core processor, HTC Sense (depends on preference). For me personally I like both phones for different reasons. I don't believe I have ever hot-wired a phone before (Rezound) especially to get S-off but it is worth the hassle in the end. As a side note, S-off for the Rezound has only recently been achieved so that may up its value in terms of the development community. I love both of these phones but if asked outright I would say the Rezound is the "better" phone. If development is first on your list get the Nexus.
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I'm not actually sure it's true that development is greater for the VZW Nexus. Not a perfect proxy but the number of threads and posts on the Rezound development forum dwarfs the Nexus.
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I am not actually upgrading, I'm getting a new phone but to last me to my upgrade a year from now exactly.
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I see. Then right now I would choose the Rezound over any other VZW phone. With ICS I suspect it will run pretty well for the next year. By the end of two years...
Also once you do get S-off or unlocked, the rest of the Rom installation process is pretty straightforward. So it is just a one time price you need to pay.
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How is sense 4.0? That's a major reason I would like this device, and recently seeing that ics might not include 4.0 is the only reason I'm on the fence here.
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How is sense 4.0? That's a major reason I would like this device, and recently seeing that ics might not include 4.0 is the only reason I'm on the fence here.
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Well officially it may not but there are a few roms with sense 4 already.
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Ya but I hate that story. Coming from the DX2- I kinda want something more official.
Verizon reps said I have a 14 day window to try a different phone anyway so maybe ill just use both.
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Ya but I hate that story. Coming from the DX2- I kinda want something more official.
Verizon reps said I have a 14 day window to try a different phone anyway so maybe ill just use both.
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Don't forget about restocking fees
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Hello All,
Wanted to post about the process I went through that eventually landed me on The One. I read everything I could for the last three months about the two phones and wound up more confused then decided on which to upgrade to. I finally decided that I need to S**t or get off the pot, so I went with the S4 because:
1) I read more positive reviews about it's camera then the One's, and for me the smartphone is a Camera that I can make calls on, not the other way around.
2) I had never owned a Samsung phone and I wanted to check it out.
3) I was worried about the lack of updates from HTC when I had the Rezound. Though I am a member of Elevate, updates have been my biggest gripe with HTC and I didn't want to get stuck with another unsupported phone.
4) lack of SD card and removable battery on the One. Not deal breakers, but factors.
So, my wife, son and I got out hiking on Saturday and I took about 60 shots on the S4. They looked great on the phone, but TERRIBLE on the PC. I had hiked in the same park last year about the same time with my son and had taken a lot of the same shots on my Rezound so I found those and compared them...The Rezound shots were much better in many instances. So I decided to take the Rezound and S4 and make the settings the same. I then took about 35 comparison shots. Almost half the time, the Rezound shots were better. That really irritated me so I searched the web for comparison images (S4 & the One) and most of the time they were so close it didn't matter.
I had bought the One through Verizon's Edge program. I know it's not the smartest thing I ever did, but I did it and I'm cool with it. They exchanged the S4 for the One and I feel pretty good about it. If I want I can move up in a year to whatever is the hottest thing at that point. I lost my unlimited, but on my phone only and they gave me 6 gigs for the same cost of my unlimited. I've never gone over six gigs before, and I can tweak my usage a little so I never have to worry about that. Besides, my wife still has her unlimited and I can switch with her if I really miss it.
As soon as I made a call with the One, I knew it was the right choice. I'm glad I tried the S4 but I really didn't like it. It just didn't measure up in so many ways. TouchWiz is so cartoonish, I felt like I should be sitting at the kids table! The screen was awesome! But so is the One's, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything there.
I figured I would share the Experience here in the Rezound forum because it played such a big part in my deciding the S4 wasn't for me!
Peace People!
thanks for your take on the two phones. I am considering the S4 above the One right now coming from a Rezound currently. I would like to know more about pros/cons of both and decide then. Hearing about the picture quality of the S4 might be problematic, but I'd have to see other cases of the same problem to be convinced myself. Have you compared your S4 photos with those of others who have an S4 to see if they have the same problem?
When I was at the Verizon store they had a one and a s4 next to each other so it was easy to compare. I took photos on both and the one looked crisper and clearer. I don't know if its because I am use to sense but it felt smoother than touchwiz. Plus I like the feel of the one in my hand. I missed how the original moto droid felt in my hand from its all metal body. The s4 just didn't wow me and disappointed me in others. I am sure its a good phone but not for me. If you think HTC is weak in updates for their phone Samsung is far worse. Droid charge got like a few updates and that's it. Where as the thunderbolt went from froyo to GB to ICS. Sure it took awhile to get to ICS but at least it did get it. Sammy seems to just drop all support and just build a new phone knowing people will do the iphone effect of selling their old device for the new one.
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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Khayos said:
If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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I've dabbled some with it...Need to do more...Fun feature, especially for my son!
Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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Uzephi said:
Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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I have, it requires a java card. It's either shell out the money for one or pay/beg/get a favor from someone who has one.
I decided that I love the phone even if it is never rooted, but I trust it will be... These guys are good!
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I'm actually probably going with the S3 or S4. HTC One seems to be harder to find deals for with my credit. S3's are only $100 now, so this college student may snap at that.
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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The simplest answer is that it works so well...It's lightning quick already, so I don't need mods to eliminate lag. Everything does what is supposed to.
But the truth about flashing other Roms is that there is almost always some buggy element. I have only run a handful in three years that didn't. I rooted both my Incredible and Rezound because there were features out there that I couldn't get on those phones.I have everything I could want on the Stock One.
If I had a Nexus device, I would enjoy that experience, but I also would miss the TV app in Sense 5 and believe it or not, I am having a blast with Zoe and some of the other features of the Sense 5 Camera. It would require too many trade offs to go to Stock Android.
Having said that, I am a flashaholic, and I have flashed one Rom since the previous post. Frankly, battery wasn't as good, and the 4g signal wasn't consistent. And that was a Rom that was very close to Stock. I know I could reflash and do other things that might fix it, or I could just go back to Stock, which I did... I'll flash other Roms, my curiosity is too strong not to, but it's great to know that Stock is so rock solid to come back to!
How's the camera compared to rezound? Also how is the scrolling lag compared to the iPhone?
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Lag? I know naught of you speak? Seriously, I don't have an iPhone so I can't compare it, but this thing blows my old Rezound out of the water, and it is every bit as fast as the S4 was.
As for the Camera, I love it. It does some things better then the Rezound (low light) and I have been able to crop with no problems. There's a learning curve but it didn't take long. I even have that purplish tint at times, but changing the iso usually makes it go away...
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