[Q] why is there no development? - HTC Amaze 4G

and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?

Yes.

rubyman94 said:
Yes.
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thank you for your well thought out and informative answer.

Try the development section
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grimey01 said:
and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?
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A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
Edit: also HTC hasn't released some driver code, so devs are having a hard time fixing things in their ICS builds.

MildewMan said:
A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
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theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)

grimey01 said:
theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)
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I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/

MildewMan said:
I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/
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the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!

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Try the development section
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ROFL!!!! I was laughing for a good 5 minutes. Lol
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grimey01 said:
the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!
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I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.

MildewMan said:
I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.
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yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?

grimey01 said:
yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?
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Yeah I know what you mean. I love the Amaze; I think it's an excellent phone with a great camera/specs/etc, but I do hope that it gets some more dev love once that S-OFF tool is released. (Actually as soon as we get our first fully functional ICS rom, I think I will love this phone forever....and by that I mean until I see a shiny new phone lol). ICS is just so smooth. I installed an ICS ROM on my MT4G, and I can immediately see a huge increase in performance over CyanogenMod 7.
Off contract, I'd probably guess ~$600-650 for the S. If TMo gets the X, I'm sure it will be the most expensive Android phone ever seen haha (probably $700-750).

there's no development now for the amaze because nobody wants to put in hours in a rom that they know nobody will use once the update comes out. So now's the time nobody's doing anything, and you won't see anything new til 4.0 comes out. Good things will happen when 4.0 is released

Don't get me wrong, the amaze is the best device I've owned, there is just a lack of info and support from tmo and htc. Hopefully with s off, more devs will come, so yes buy it
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both of your trivial questions could be answered with simple observation...
Q. "why is there no development?"
A. um, maybe because we have only have a few devs here? maybe because we had s-on for the longest until recently? who knows?
Q. "what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?"
A. most of us here arent shopping for a new amaze...have you tried ebay? how about craigslist?
not trying to be an ass, but people come in here every day asking superfluous questions when a little legwork on their own would answer these types of questions...

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I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.

Spovik said:
I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.
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i always thought HTC was good to the tweakers... XDA was built for HTC phones after all..
the only hardware issue i hear about this phone is some light-leaking near the bottom-side ends of the screen. not a big deal at all compared to sensations problems, although the sensation looks a lot better IMO
ill get the amaze. s-off and ICS seems like itll happen soon
hopefully development picks up

I agree with wanting aosp ics, but I kind of like sense on GB. The vanilla ui of ics is great though and doesn't need sense.
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I don't think HTC is going to push ICS out till the One series is fully launched.

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Why I won't be getting the e3d on launch day

1.) Very concerned about call quality and battery life. I remember when the OG evo came out, the battery life was pretty bad. It wasn't until I purchased a higher capacity battery on ebay, and rooted the phone that I was happy. I have a feeling the e3d is going to have the same initial problem, even though they upped the battery. If you throw in bad call quality, which has been fairly consistent among the reviews, those are two big strikes against the phone IMO.
2.) I know the 3d feature is just an "added bonus", but in my book it's just a gimmick. I don't see myself using it all that much, and most reviews say using the 3D really kills the battery. Plus I think it takes away from the "sleekness" of the phone. I heard someone say it looks like Johnny #5 from Short Circuit on the back of the phone, and I have to agree. Not visually appealing to me at all. Plus, I'll be constantly worried about scratching them as well, since they seem to protrude out much further than any camera I have seen. The 2D camera quality seems to be the same as my OG evo anyway. I wish they would have just put a higher quality 2D camera on the phone.
3.) I'm not that big a fan of sense. I've been running cyanogen for quite some time now, and forgot how much better it is than sense. I picked up my gf's evo the other day, which is still stock, and it was painful to use compared to CM7.
4.) I think the OG evo is still a damn good phone. Why would I want to use my upgrade and get stuck into another two years if I'm not 100% sure I want this phone? I know sprint has the 30 day return policy, but why go through that hassle initially? I think it's wiser just to wait and see how things play out for the first month. I'm not sure if the bootloader is unencrypted at this point? Sure, HTC said they will unlock it, but when?? 1,3,6 months from now?
I'm still very happy with CM7 on my evo at this point. The development on this phone has been amazing. I have android 2.3.4 with the honeybread theme. It looks slick, just as good as my transformer tab, and battery life is exceptional. I get 16 hours with moderate to heavy usage.
5.) If this was sprint's only powerhouse phone coming out soon, sure it would probably more of a "no-brainer" on getting the e3d...but with the Photon and most likely the SGS2 coming soon, I think I'll wait and compare the three phones before I make any decisions. In the meantime, I'll still be happy running my OG evo w/CM7.
I think the bottom line is I'm not going to jump on board just because this phone is the "new" thing. I'll practice some restraint, keep checking out XDA for the first couple weeks and see how things play out. I have a feeling there won't be a shortage for the e3d like there was for the OG evo.
As many people have said its pretty much your personal preference.
As for me I have already preordered it on wirefly, can not wait for some reason I don't see my phones battery being really all that bad as reviewers say.
I will sign another two year contract because that plan I am on is cheap! and love sprint service!
Thanks for that. Are you going to go on every phones forum and let us know why you're not getting those as well?
I just might!!...would you like me to send you a personal message to notify you of all my phone updates? Toolbox...lol.
mmace said:
Thanks for that. Are you going to go on every phones forum and let us know why you're not getting those as well?
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mmace said:
Thanks for that. Are you going to go on every phones forum and let us know why you're not getting those as well?
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This
+1
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Just seems strange that you've chosen to go onto a phones forum and say why you're not going to buy it.
Why choose this phone to do that about?
Did you do the same for every other phone approaching launch date?
seems like a very strange thread to start
Toolbox? "don't be a dingbat"
NOW there will not be a shortage.
murusmaximus said:
I just might!!...would you like me to send you a personal message to notify you of all my phone updates? Toolbox...lol.
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haha this made me LOL i think you should deep down inside I'm sure he is begging for it!
Hater!
I don't understand why that is so strange? A forum is for giving opinions...right? I'm giving my opinion on why I'm holding off on purchasing this phone on launch day. Did I say I will never get the phone? No. It seems with certain people, anytime you criticize this phone, people want to brush you aside for some kind of idiot. I'm just not sold on this phone yet, and I'll even go out on a limb and say it probably won't be nearly as successful as the OG evo. Just my opinion though!!
mmace said:
Just seems strange that you've chosen to go onto a phones forum and say why you're not going to buy it.
Why choose this phone to do that about?
Did you do the same for every other phone approaching launch date?
seems like a very strange thread to start
Toolbox? "don't be a dingbat"
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http://www.narcissism101.com/
Actually this is a forum for developing stuff, hence the name xda-developers.
If that's the case, then why have an Evo 3D GENERAL section, and an EVO 3D Android Development section? If it's all about development, why not just have the EVO 3D Android Development, and that's it? I've seen maybe 1-2 threads in the GENERAL section that actually deal with "development".
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http://www.narcissism101.com/
Actually this is a forum for developing stuff, hence the name xda-developers.
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murusmaximus said:
I don't understand why that is so strange? A forum is for giving opinions...right? I'm giving my opinion on why I'm holding off on purchasing this phone on launch day. Did I say I will never get the phone? No. It seems with certain people, anytime you criticize this phone, people want to brush you aside for some kind of idiot. I'm just not sold on this phone yet, and I'll even go out on a limb and say it probably won't be nearly as successful as the OG evo. Just my opinion though!!
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Of course it wont be as successful as OG EVO. It's going to be a while, before sprint has another phone like that! When they finally drop a LTE phone, with the same top of the line range in phones they currently are putting out. That 1st one to hit will be there best shot, whatever the phones may be at that point. Untill then we are getting HTC, Samsung, and not Moto all trying to draw from the ground breaking EVO.
Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one!!!
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murusmaximus said:
1.) Very concerned about call quality and battery life. I remember when the OG evo came out, the battery life was pretty bad. It wasn't until I purchased a higher capacity battery on ebay, and rooted the phone that I was happy. I have a feeling the e3d is going to have the same initial problem, even though they upped the battery. If you throw in bad call quality, which has been fairly consistent among the reviews, those are two big strikes against the phone IMO.
2.) I know the 3d feature is just an "added bonus", but in my book it's just a gimmick. I don't see myself using it all that much, and most reviews say using the 3D really kills the battery. Plus I think it takes away from the "sleekness" of the phone. I heard someone say it looks like Johnny #5 from Short Circuit on the back of the phone, and I have to agree. Not visually appealing to me at all. Plus, I'll be constantly worried about scratching them as well, since they seem to protrude out much further than any camera I have seen. The 2D camera quality seems to be the same as my OG evo anyway. I wish they would have just put a higher quality 2D camera on the phone.
3.) I'm not that big a fan of sense. I've been running cyanogen for quite some time now, and forgot how much better it is than sense. I picked up my gf's evo the other day, which is still stock, and it was painful to use compared to CM7.
4.) I think the OG evo is still a damn good phone. Why would I want to use my upgrade and get stuck into another two years if I'm not 100% sure I want this phone? I know sprint has the 30 day return policy, but why go through that hassle initially? I think it's wiser just to wait and see how things play out for the first month. I'm not sure if the bootloader is unencrypted at this point? Sure, HTC said they will unlock it, but when?? 1,3,6 months from now?
I'm still very happy with CM7 on my evo at this point. The development on this phone has been amazing. I have android 2.3.4 with the honeybread theme. It looks slick, just as good as my transformer tab, and battery life is exceptional. I get 16 hours with moderate to heavy usage.
5.) If this was sprint's only powerhouse phone coming out soon, sure it would probably more of a "no-brainer" on getting the e3d...but with the Photon and most likely the SGS2 coming soon, I think I'll wait and compare the three phones before I make any decisions. In the meantime, I'll still be happy running my OG evo w/CM7.
I think the bottom line is I'm not going to jump on board just because this phone is the "new" thing. I'll practice some restraint, keep checking out XDA for the first couple weeks and see how things play out. I have a feeling there won't be a shortage for the e3d like there was for the OG evo.
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Two questions:
1. Do you have a blog amigo?
2. How the heck can we subscribe?
murusmaximus said:
If that's the case, then why have an Evo 3D GENERAL section, and an EVO 3D Android Development section? If it's all about development, why not just have the EVO 3D Android Development, and that's it? I've seen maybe 1-2 threads in the GENERAL section that actually deal with "development".
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You don't get it. You're supposed to start a new thread bashing someone that gave a mediocre review of this phone and act like the ultimate fanboy. That is the only purpose of this section of the subforum.
Yeah, but you can't share your a**hole with everyone. That may land you in jail...or the hospital.
tornadog said:
Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one!!!
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No blog as of now, but you can follow me on twitter under the same username. Maybe I'll have to get a wordpress or blogger site up and running.
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Two questions:
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2. How the heck can we subscribe?
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You should get engadget to review your twitter
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Epic Touch 4G (A.K.A: Galaxy S II) set for Sept. 9th release

So, with the chance of getting flamed or... flaming myself depending on the reaction to this. SprintFeed apparently got word that the Galaxy S II will be hitting Sprint first, on September 9th, ahead of all other carriers.
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/08/rumor-samsung-epic-touch-4g-releasing-september-9th/
There is the link.
Just thought any defectors would like the heads up. I personally am sticking with my 3Devo.
From the screenshots it looks to be the same phone. No concrete answer on if it's packing a Snapdragon which had been rumored or if it's sticking with Exynos. *Shrug* guess we shall find out.
Awesome, can't wait. Jk Samsung sucks.
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Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
demo27vol1 said:
Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
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Yeah, the only reason I can see why they waited was because of the pressure from Apple and it's "your phone looks like mah phone!" 6-year old meltdown of a lawsuit that has been going on. I dunno.
Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Oh snap you got me!.
Wow, I was all "general information" and you were like "Eat it, OP!"
and I was like "Oh snap!"
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
About time
daneurysm said:
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
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Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
I'd think I'd like it more if it didn't look like the iPhone had a retarded son.
felacio said:
You're post is a little confusing. so...
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You're confusing. And your justification for starting this thread is unfounded.
Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
felacio said:
Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
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Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
daneurysm said:
Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
Well, if (when) that happens, I'll be on the HTC side. totally didn't mean for it turn into a Vs. thread if (when) that happens. should I edit my initial post and say how stupid Samsung and the SGS2 is or just wait? lol
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Agreed. Their designs are a bit stodgy looking, but their hardware (aside from those horrible screens and penchant for keyboards) is rock solid. They nearly invented cellular mobile phone technology. They have been doing mobile communications for as long as there has been a commercial mobile communications market. Their radios are fantastic. Build quality is always awesome. How many OG Droids do you still see around? Tons...and I have seen a lot that are beaten to death physically but still kicking ass, 2nd hand, 3rd hand...that says quite a bit.
Without knowing anything about the contents of their patent portfolio I am confident that it contains thousands of very relevant patents. I can't wait to see Google's next move.
I came from the Epic 4G to the Evo 3D. The main thing about Samsung was there slowwwwww release of updates. The Epic 4G rolled out with Eclair, took a while to get Froyo and is still awaiting Gingerbread. This really seem slow down ROM and kernel development. HTC seems pretty spot on with their OS updates.
I am waiting to see if Samsung support for their phones has improved. If it has, maybe I would consider going back. Until then, my Evo 3D is the shizzle.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
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My thoughts on VZW & HTC

Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
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I don't really disagree with your assessment. Over the last year and a half vzw has turned into att lite, and HTC has just screwed its customers every chance it has gotten. It left the EVO view/flyer, jetstream on their current buggy ass builds of hc, they've might as well given up on updating their phones, as they wait so bloody long to do so, then they have bowed to vzws every demand. I will definitely be leaving both Verizon and HTC at the end of the year when the new nexus device hits. (assuming it does hit then) to me it seems like vzw got the iphone and immediately quit worrying about how to bring in new customers and keep their current ones happy. I'm probably going to go to tmo and stick with unlocked unbranded phones.
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Just because you put a custom rom on doesn't me it voided your warranty its a possibility but not a guarantee if you know what your doing. I agree with most your points, but I got the phone for $150 off CL (because he wanted an ics device instead, LOL) so not only did I get a great deal on a mint condition phone because it didn't have ics on it but then I went home and slapped it on myself from xda. So in a way I kinda like that Verizon/Htc hasn't released ics yet. Plus its cool knowing your one of only a few thousand people that have a rezound with ics. I just wished the would give up the source code for the kernel already.
At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
Poop!
I consider that neither immature nor irrational.
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At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
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Yeah that's the boat on in. I love my rezound but... I need a nexus in my life or something.
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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While I agree that the rezzy is by far the best, I still wish I hadn't further supported HTC due to the way they are handling the tablet issue, and now the updates on the Rezound. And honestly I don't hold my breath for us getting jb. Honestly I think it will be like the tbolt is right now with Ics. Just a functional rom without a cellular modem. Which is sad given how incredibly much I like the phone itself. But the only way to get (insert mobile headset maker here) attention is to stop buying their products they won't support once they leave the shelf. And Verizon lost me when they axed unlimited data grandfathering. But then won't give me a discount for not buying a subsidized device. (ala tmo) so, I just can't continue to support companies that continually screw us the customer over.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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I think some of it is symptomatic of the market. Handset makers are pushing out new devices every 4 to 6 months, and it stops being cost effective to update them all. Which sucks for us, but it makes good business sense.
If they would only push out source, RIL included, it just wouldn't matter.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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All that you're saying sounds good and all but that argument is tired. If htc says we're giving ics, we expect it. And with barbers you see progress and know it's happening. You don't see him pausing your haircut after telling you 2pm to go work on someone elses and then coming back to your at damn near 1:58. Or him giving you a fresh haircut then ignoring you after you ask him to touch up your hairline after you paid him.
*kicks soapbox from under feet*
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Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
Feel free to submit your thoughtful replies. Immature, irrational comments will be ignored.
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I was one of the ones that up-voted it yesterday!
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? ... Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially.
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It's the whole thing of lying to the consumers that pisses people off, not necessarily the lack of updates IMO. If HTC had never mentioned that we were getting ICS there wouldn't be so much *****ing and moaning because people wouldn't expect it. When I got the Rezound back in November, I was told that it would have it by January. Here we are almost 8 months later with still no update. HTC has had it ready for months but Verizon refuses to push it out until they're ready. It's not the same thing as your Windows 8 analogy because the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is paid for. It'd be more like you buy a computer with Windows 7 and a few months down the road your PC manufacturer says "We're not going to release any new drivers for your hardware, sorry." then MS says "We're not going to release any updates to Windows 7 for you anymore, sorry. Please buy Windows 8 to get the latest bug fixes."
I gotta say HTC and Verizon really ****ed this up. I've had good experiences with HTC before, but they are just so Hit-or-miss that it isnt even funny. Verizon... POS. Come november when my contract is over, I'm going to get whatever is the next nexus device (if its HTC then awesome) on AT&T
I don't really care for the official ICS because I am already enjoying ICS with sense 4 with Newts One XxX. However, it pisses me off to see that the rezound is still without official ICS. I don't think anything can justify this, other than than Verizon trying to promote other phones and not caring about a phone because it was not branded "Droid". The Droid razor already has ICS and I dont see why the Rezound still waiting. And what's more frustrating is the silence of the two companies... They simply don't care about what the customers think...
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I would have to say the rezound has been the worst experience I have ever had with a HTC phone. It seems that since the HTC One series drop nothing else matters to HTC. I hate to say it but this may very well be my last HTC handset. I need a phone that I can compile the source on my own I guess.
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I see a lot of blame on Verizon but I don't believe (and I maybe wrong) any other HTC handsets have ICS either like the EVO3D (were I came from).
Why even push an update now that isn't even an update? It needs to have sense 4, IMO that would make it worth the wait, and get customers more excited and loyal towards HTC products. But nope. Gonna be sense 3.6 lol. Meh w/e they have been shooting themselves in the foot lately. All of them have in a way. Samsung used to be terrible with updates but not so much anymore... Their phones are just iffy, radios and such...
Mass tweet
Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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Oh I'm almost 100% sure Verizon is the MAIN problem. HTC has probably had it done for quite some time now but I'm sure Verizon keeps rejecting and making them lock stuff down more, while promoting other phones in the meantime. This last leak is almost perfect, and how long have we had it now?

Look at this bull****...

See, this is what I'm talking about here, HTC and their lies and bull****. The EVO LTE is the One X, yet, we have no ****ing 4.0.4 while EVERY OTHER US variant does. Well, that's the last damn straw with me... Proceeding to harass GPL off this bull****.
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It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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typhoonikan said:
It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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Welcome back
Looks like I need to create a fake FB to troll HTC harder.
I hate having this techy stuff pop up on my friends feed
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Welcome back
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Dude I'm so pissed with HTC and noobs are defending them like The LTEVO isn't riddled with bugs and the One X wasn't rushed and basically a "test" model.
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Who wants 4.0.4? I am getting ready for my favorite dessert, Jelly Bean.
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Hey man. Keep fighting the good fight. We are behind you. I have been writing emails and posting on facebook walls. Doing what I can.
Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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HTC isn't losing much at all from not upgrading their phones. The majority of Android users will not understand or care about version numbers. Android is no longer something for just "nerds" like us. It has the largest market share of any mobile OS. HTC is losing money because they don't have lower end phones, and also because the name isn't as well known as Samsung or Apple in the US.
1) HTC cannot guarantee an update window without being sure of it. With this update being new, they will still have to go through Sprint and all of that before it gets to us. HTC probably has no way of knowing how long it will take, so they aren't giving us any sort of ETA.
2) This phone will obviously receive the update. That shouldn't even be questioned. It is essentially the same phone as the One X, but locked down to a single carrier. This most likely makes us the last priority because we are the smallest group. The One X is available in many more areas than the Evo is. HTC probably wants to get through the biggest group first and then focus on us.
3) You're being unnecessarily angry. The update was just released TODAY, meaning that it probably won't even be on every One X for a few days at least. Just because some HTC drone paid to avoid giving you answers told you on Facebook that they don't have any information to share with you doesn't mean we will be waiting a month for this update to come. Could we have to wait that long? Yes. But there is no proof that we will.
4) The current update we are on with this phone is good. The phone itself works fine. Why do we need this update instantly? Would you prefer HTC rush it out and have to deal with bugs? Why would you want to do that? If it isn't ready for release yet, then you just have to deal with that. Pestering them on Facebook isn't going to get them to go any faster. Spamming them with e-mails probably isn't going to either. There is no legally binding document that says they have to release this update. They will though.
Honestly, it is common sense that we will see this update in the future. When will we see it? We don't know. But to go on an expletive filled tirade just because HTC doesn't have a bone to throw at you on the first day that the update is available on carriers that are much less restrictive than Sprint is just immature and unnecessary.
Newsflash: it's easier to update a phone when you don't have to go through carriers. Also, upgrading phones outside of the US is much easier because a lot of less restrictive carriers. It'll happen, but HTC had to focus on one or the other first, and common sense says we weren't chosen because we're the smaller group.
Exactly..and they have pretty much the same software besides the bloat apps..but believe me they are not very happy either..devs are leaving and the bootloaders are locked up tighter than a nuns ass...I don't understand HTCs intentions but it could all be fixed with one simple upload of source
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Who said we aren't going to get the update? Oh wait, that's right, nobody did.
flex360 said:
the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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I like you.
Pro HTC? Can't you see, post purchase service is **** all across the board. The desire HD excuse is a perfect example. Your idea of carrier lock down is somewhat true BUT can be solved. I don't know why they let carriers muscle them. Apple says **** you, sale our **** or GTFO & they bend. HTC needs to do the same & Sammy does too. These cellular politics piss me off. I wonder what EXCUSE we'll get for not having android 5. I would much rather them come out & say "yo, we not upgrading your old ass phone. Buy a new one or GTFO"
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Nice to see you back man. Generally like your posts and threads.
It does seem like the LTE is getting left out right now but I'm not gonna freak unless a pattern develops
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I like you.
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I don't..sarcasm and being a d/ck isn't any better than the ppl u are *****ing about..personally I don't care about 4.04..the source is a whole other ordeal..

[Q] Thinking about getting a DNA

Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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For $50 you can't go wrong with the DNA. Yes, you can root, unlock bootloader and put on custom ROM's with the DNA. The process to root, unlock, S-Off is extremely easy thanks to Moonshine and then it's just a matter of downloading Goomanager from the Google Play and flashing TWRP recovery. There are a lot of ROM's to choose from as this phone still has great developer support. The screen resolution and battery are far better on the DNA than the Galaxy S3. Hell, I would take the DNA over the S4 to be honest with you.
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For $50 you can't go wrong with the DNA. Yes, you can root, unlock bootloader and put on custom ROM's with the DNA. The process to root, unlock, S-Off is extremely easy thanks to Moonshine and then it's just a matter of downloading Goomanager from the Google Play and flashing TWRP recovery. There are a lot of ROM's to choose from as this phone still has great developer support. The screen resolution and battery are far better on the DNA than the Galaxy S3. Hell, I would take the DNA over the S4 to be honest with you.
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Thanks for your input. and yes i forgot to mention the battery life. my S2's battery life is lackluster as well, and i have been reading and viewing material around the web saying the DNA's battery is almost as horrible. I was hoping a clean and sense-less rom would fix that.
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Thanks for your input. and yes i forgot to mention the battery life. my S2's battery life is lackluster as well, and i have been reading and viewing material around the web saying the DNA's battery is almost as horrible. I was hoping a clean and sense-less rom would fix that.
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I've found underclocking on a aosp Rom gives the best battery life. It will last you through the day with light to moderate use regardless. Battery life is pretty bad for a heavy user tho
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atoms83 said:
Hello, My wife and I are about to sign up for a family plan with Verizon. I am coming from T-mobile and even though I have learned the nuances over time with Verizon and previously hated their practices, it is still better then T-mobiles lackluster coverage in my area.
Years ago i used to have an HTC droid Eris. Now i am coming from a T-mobile Galaxy SII.
Anyway, I was wondering since i have a 50 dollar budget to throw away on a new phone until the Moto X arrives, is it worth getting a new Droid DNA? meaning will i be able to root it, unlock it, and put a stock android rom on it such as Cyanogenmod or AOKP?
Or should i just get a Galaxy SIII? i love my galaxy SII but its showing it's age hardware and performance wise and i would like a nice cheap upgrade. HTC's 1080p screen and S4 cpu has me going but i am really paranoid that this phone will be too slow and locked down.
your input is greatly appreciated.
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Non-Sense ROMs are all based on the CM10.1 work that is in progress. It is perfect for some users and unusable for others because not everything is working. If CyanogenMod/aokp is important to you, look in the original development thread to understand if it will currently work for you.
Have used both the galaxy s3 and s4 and to me the dNA is the best phone out currently as long as the 16gb of storage is enough for you. The sense 5 roms are awesome and it's easy to root etc with moonshine. Sense 5 roms are much better then the aosp aokp roms. Sense 5 is the best interface I have ever seen on a phone
Battery life is great. I get well over 4 hours screen time and it lasts all day easily.
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im a light user, but after flashing beaups kernel on NOS M7, my phone has been on for 34 hours and i have 20% left lol
I came from the s3 to the dna through a warranty replacement and I do not regret it. Snappy phone even stock add viper rom and you will drool with this device.
My dad has an S3 and my DNA absolutely blows it out of the water. If you are wanting to keep it for the next two years, I'd go with the One as long you don't mind the slightly smaller screen. The reasons being: Boomsound if you listen to a lot of music, more storage, and more support from HTC/Verizon since its the current flagship. The One is only SLIGHTLY faster performance wise. Not enough to really detect a difference. The DNA is a great device, and I haven't regretted owning it for a minute. THE ONLY device I consider superior to the DNA is the Butterfly S, but it's not even available in the US.
In shorter words, Get the One or the DNA. Whichever suits you best.
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Yep dNa and the butterfly are the best phones out. I agree
Thanks a lot guys I guess i'll be giving it a shot. If i don't like it, like i said, I will get a Moto X. I drive a lot for my job so mostly i'll be using maps and maybe bluethtoothing some music once in a while. Having a nice big phone that can handle navigating and not constantly dropping gps/data service will be nice. Hopefully all that stuff works with a decent rom.
All your input was greatly appreciated thanks a lot.
atoms83 said:
Thanks a lot guys I guess i'll be giving it a shot. If i don't like it, like i said, I will get a Moto X. I drive a lot for my job so mostly i'll be using maps and maybe bluethtoothing some music once in a while. Having a nice big phone that can handle navigating and not constantly dropping gps/data service will be nice. Hopefully all that stuff works with a decent rom.
All your input was greatly appreciated thanks a lot.
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Np, hTCs hardware is superior to Samsung. The radios are worlds better.
i have a dna and if i was you id get a gs4, everyone and their grandmother is going to have or already has this phone and the development is going to be far far beyond the dna, just like every galaxy before it, they already have every option available, while the dna is only losing popularity, im sure someone will dispute what ive said, but thats what the internet it all about.
hyphydragon said:
i have a dna and if i was you id get a gs4, everyone and their grandmother is going to have or already has this phone and the development is going to be far far beyond the dna, just like every galaxy before it, they already have every option available, while the dna is only losing popularity, im sure someone will dispute what ive said, but thats what the internet it all about.
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I don't believe this phone is losing popularity it wasn't popular to begin with. That being said those of us who use phones based on sheer performance and overall design would definitely agree that The DNA is better than the gs4.. yes the gs4 will have a ton more development and it's aosp will be more functional than the DNA because it has a aosp version supported by Google.. though the phone it's not that appealing and it's just a updated gs3 in every since... I have had all phones on Verizon. The DNA is the best at the moment though I am planning to jump ship once the motorla x is available next month...
Let me add the DNA has pretty good development for a not so popular older brother of the HTC one.
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I don't believe this phone is losing popularity it wasn't popular to begin with. That being said those of us who use phones based on sheer performance and overall design would definitely agree that The DNA is better than the gs4.. yes the gs4 will have a ton more development and it's aosp will be more functional than the DNA because it has a aosp version supported by Google.. though the phone it's not that appealing and it's just a updated gs3 in every since... I have had all phones on Verizon. The DNA is the best at the moment though I am planning to jump ship once the motorla x is available next month...
Let me add the DNA has pretty good development for a not so popular older brother of the HTC one.
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I'm just curious why would you go to a moto x when the DNA has the much better specs
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I'm just curious why would you go to a moto x when the DNA has the much better specs
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I will still have my DNA for switching but this seems to be Google's baby and I can't miss out... I believe Google doesn't think the hardware needs to be that Mich for android to run efficiently and will show how less hardware can be just as good... Here's to my hope being true...lol..
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Yeah makes sense. I wasn't bashing you or anything... Just curious
I'm ruined now... I don't think I will ever be able to go to anything that has less then a 1080p screen
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I am about to get this phone tomorrow, and i was also wondering if i'm going to unlock (or s-off in the htc world?) this phone and flash AOKP or other stock android roms, should i not accept any incoming OTA updates once i open it up and turn it on? based from what i have read it seems like the latest update makes it impossible to unlock or s-off or whatever and install custom roms on the device. I'm gonna make sure the unit will be fresh and un-opened.
Also, I was planning on getting the Moto X because to me its verizons answer to a nexus. I prefer stock android and personally i think sense ui is awful. If this phone proves to be fast and reliable i will keep it for the time being, otherwise its a quick 49 dollar 1080p phone.
atoms83 said:
I am about to get this phone tomorrow, and i was also wondering if i'm going to unlock (or s-off in the htc world?) this phone and flash AOKP or other stock android roms, should i not accept any incoming OTA updates once i open it up and turn it on? based from what i have read it seems like the latest update makes it impossible to unlock or s-off or whatever and install custom roms on the device. I'm gonna make sure the unit will be fresh and un-opened.
Also, I was planning on getting the Moto X because to me its verizons answer to a nexus. I prefer stock android and personally i think sense ui is awful. If this phone proves to be fast and reliable i will keep it for the time being, otherwise its a quick 49 dollar 1080p phone.
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Yes accept the update so you can properly unlock and root the phone.. you have to have the update to do moonshine.
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The one thing I would keep in mind, since you said you use GPS, is the extra step to get it working on the CM based ROMs. It isn't hard and just took me a few minutes but going on a trip with my GPS not working. At least we had my wife's phone!
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