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To All, Let's get clear what kind of bounty thread is acceptable and what is not :
A bounty thread that is posted for anyone to claim should they solve a problem or provide a fix is Acceptable.
A bounty thread like this which is to provide a person money or specific team money...etc IS NOT ACCEPTABLE........
THEREFORE...... THIS IS CLOSED AND DO NOT POST A BOUNTY LIKE THIS AGAIN......
THANK YOU ••• MODERATORS
I used the T989 (S2 for T-Mobile) before switching to the note and I must say that his guy is one of a kind and would be a great asset to the i717 dev community.
His T988 ROM (Darkside) is very popular as well as his kernel (Darkside Kernel). Used by 7+ different roms.
I managed to talk to him via PM about helping us out and would contribute if only he had the device.
I will be collecting the funds on his behalf and paying the rest needed for the device within a week or two tops so he can start developing
He's a great guy so please let's not piss him off with ETAs and unnecessary requests.
Lets set our goal at $750 for a new one from Bestbuy or $550 used from craigslist/ebay.
I'll start the bounty with $50 and will pay for the rest for a device after two weeks tops.
Donations List
djxcee - $50
Master&Slave™ - $10
DAGr8 - $5
djwascom33 - $5
?????????? - $50
Total Contributors: 5
Total Donated: $120
Thank you to all that donated
This is going to be interesting to see how many people respond.. This is bounty is legit. I honestly never do bounty threads because i seen a lot of them bust. @djxcee convinced me to help you guys out and I am willing to contribute whatever I can..
First off, no disrespect for you in this post, thederekjay, don't know your work, I'm sure you're great.
But OP, your thread title is disrespectful to the devs working on the Note today. Just because you have a favorite dev/rom on another phone/etc, doesn't mean you should post with that sort of slant. Devs are taking enough crap here lately for no reason.
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First off, no disrespect for you in this post, thederekjay, don't know your work, I'm sure you're great.
But OP, your thread title is disrespectful to the devs working on the Note today. Just because you have a favorite dev/rom on another phone/etc, doesn't mean you should post with that sort of slant. Devs are taking enough crap here lately for no reason.
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didn't mean to disrespect anyone but I changed the title to be a bit more board.
Hope its fine now.
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I HIGHLY recommend donating to this guy.
He has created some amazing roms/kernels/tools for the t989.
I know people in the t989 forum would get this phone just because he's deving for it.(which may not be a good thing based on how things turned out)
Good luck...I had a troll get the bounty someone set for me, deleted...
TDJ...Nice to see u still at it
Honestly goodluck where ever u go man.
I ordered a Galaxy Nexus a few hours ago.
M&S
Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
I have faith in this Dev . Plus his work is amazing
I donated 5.00 hope more people try to help make it happen
i can vouch for that dev .. His work is incredible i had a t-mobile galaxy s2...I used his roms over on SGH-T989 board....i will donate in a couple days for sure...this is great we do need more development here.
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Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
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It doesnt matter how the money is received IMO. As long as donations are for a good cause (Hence Getting TDJ here) then it shouldnt be a problem. People get burned everyday with money, people donate to even "greater real world causes" and get burned, its the way it is, not saying that thats how it should be.
I had no intentions on development for this phone until yesterday night when a few guys insisted that they wanted me to dev for it. They started a bounty the same as this one. I didnt have anything to do with what happened to you all with these other guys that came in and did nothing "per say", so it was not fair at all for my thread to get deleted, nor trolled. I thought the rules were "A dev couldnt ask for money to get his/her a device"
But anyways, im donating 10$ to TDJ Because he is loyal and he works very hard, i have much respect for the man. His Rom was very great, not to mention I even used his kernel and advertised his super wipe script in both of my ROM threads.
Last time im gonna be here...Good luck TDJ
Donation Confirmation
10$
As promised..
Confirmation number: 3UP51465HH082710J.
Phenomnal dev....one of many great devs from the MT4G forum. I currently run his Darkside kernel...excellent work !!
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Master&Slave™ said:
It doesnt matter how the money is received IMO. As long as donations are for a good cause (Hence Getting TDJ here) then it shouldnt be a problem. People get burned everyday with money, people donate to even "greater real world causes" and get burned, its the way it is, not saying that thats how it should be.
I had no intentions on development for this phone until yesterday night when a few guys insisted that they wanted me to dev for it. They started a bounty the same as this one. I didnt have anything to do with what happened to you all with these other guys that came in and did nothing "per say", so it was not fair at all for my thread to get deleted, nor trolled. I thought the rules were "A dev couldnt ask for money to get his/her a device"
But anyways, im donating 10$ to TDJ Because he is loyal and he works very hard, i have much respect for the man. His Rom was very great, not to mention I even used his kernel and advertised his super wipe script in both of my ROM threads.
Last time im gonna be here...Good luck TDJ
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Thanks... appreciate the kind words! Wish you the best of luck with the GN.
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Phenomnal dev....one of many great devs from the MT4G forum. I currently run his Darkside kernel...excellent work !!
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Do you currently have a note? I actually still have my mt4g, sitting around haven't touched it in awhile.
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DAGr8 said:
Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
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Pretty much . However if donations is low I will probably get a used one vs new one.
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Got a donation for $50 from someone. Please don't be shy and post here so I can add your name to the list
Thank you for contributing!
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Can't believe Braway made CWM work without a note and he only got 4 to donate? I hope people realize this...
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Got a donation for $50 from someone. Please don't be shy and post here so I can add your name to the list
Thank you for contributing!
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No need to add my name to the list. I just want this phone in more dev's hands. This is by far the best phone I have ever had and we need more dev's on this platform.
This phone is why I don't use my tablet anymore. Makes you think about why apple doesn't want a phone with a larger screen.
Put me in for $40
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Put me in for $40
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I.miss deejays from.the hercules forums.he was great. As was MASTERSLAVE.
Hope wE Get I Guy!!!!!
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Do you currently have a note? I actually still have my mt4g, sitting around haven't touched it in awhile.
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ok here is a heads up how bounty works .
you dont donate up front you put your name in with the amount and once it reaches the amount needed IF the DEV still wants in at that time well THEN and THEN only everyone pays .
I have seen and heard way too many devs get paid for nothing , while the best of them struggles to get new devices .
Its way to easy to have your friends/fans open bounty for you .
I am not pointing fingers at anyone (I am sorry if you feel the hats fits you ) and I will not entertain any arguments with anyone in this thread
and I vote to sticky this !
Sticky this anyone ?
ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the matter and have mastered it... as well it helps if the devs make a chip in so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the mtter nd have mastered it as well it helps if the devs make a chip me so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you ! and they all contributed may i add
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you !
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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what rules ?
XDA rules ? read them . posting here off topic is breaking one of them btw....
I do not make them nor do I choose which get shut down , if a thread got shut down it s because it wasnt legit according to XDA not according to me .
this thread 's goal right here is so users dont give money left and right . Many users got burned already and in the end the community suffers .
We can all get together and finance great dev for coming here , I ve freely given donations many times already and will do it again .
I do not have a facebook page , I do not ask for users to buy me devices I do not make chipin pages , I own only one device ( the other one is almost 2 yrs old) I do customize the phone for my need and share with the community , some users help me some users donate , some users join me .
Some devs hate me ? sad story .
but what is your point ? if it s OT again please dont bother ./
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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ok lol so now all the t989 guys gonna come here and post to cry , what is pathetic of me exactly ?
there is a ' dev only section' for him to post there is pm and there is chat link on my sig if anyone wants to talk .. Im an open book .
please read my previous answer and stop hijacking thx
I coudl post here all that was said for what ?
Hahaha you're pathetic bud. Glad you made that more obvious for us. I'm out
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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thx for the compliment but Im not remotely close to being the best dev here on the note .
I can't blame a dev if they wanna leave the T989... phone is great but the forum is drama.
Compare it to skyrocket. Same device almost, completely different attitude. Not daily flame wars from impatient end users
Edit: it would be great to have m&s on the i717 & tdj as well... And think how much more peaceful it would be for them here. Whitehawkx would be great Dan Brutal too. And they would be appreciated instead of maybe being sorry they bought the T989
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DAGr8 said:
Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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hes already wokrign on something else for us .
Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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ok i am not up on thos highschool drama going on butt...edit this bro, cant understand a lick
I only pay for results.
What happened to the good old days when devs bought phones instead of begging for handouts? Its one thing for everyone to gather money for the cyanogen or miui team for a port but for another flavor of our existing roms? I'm more interested in donating to a dev that can build an ics kernel.
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I think the point is that we have had some developers working hard already. One of them brought us recovery without even having the phone, and he still doesn't have the phone. Nor has he been given enough in donations to buy this phone.
And now we have a number of developers showing up looking for donations to buy this phone to develop on. It seems to me to be insulting to start throwing money at individuals who haven't done anything yet vs those that have already worked hard.
Then again, everyone has the right to give money to who they want.
I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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If that's how the t989 users act, I'm glad I purchased the Note. You're doing great Dag and don't let these kids get you down!
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...I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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+1 to this comment.
I Got my Note launch day & soon found a community that in a brief time offered me root, an OC kernal, CWM, and now 3 different ROM's that I didn't ask for or up-front pay for. That established pretty clearly that people here are doing things for others (I would be the one of the others- I have contributed now to several).
I can understand that we bring our own baggage and attitude with us when we (anyone) read(s) these forums. Please, if it sounds like a post is disingenuous, discrediting, slighting, or unflattering to someone, seek clarification before you let your attitude, especially if it's negative, run amok. It isn't necessarily how you perceived it & such vitriolic spewing can be downright poisonous to the community.
You may have a point, and it may be good for all of us to hear it, but the golden rule can't hurt, eh? Civility is an option.
As far as the thread is concerned, I think some planning and caution when it comes to donations to bring others on board is wise, so discussion about that structure is a good thing- this is a ripe field for trolls and scammers. Thanks DAGr8 for trying to set this conversation rolling.
As you all know I hit the game late, but even tho I think we will crack this baby in the near future I would still like to get a head start so if anyone has a unlocked 4G that they want to donate are make a deal let me know in pm... O have a loaded rom that I would like to put out bit o won't until o can test it and such... If there are any takers shoot me a message and ill get the ball rolling
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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root will come, same thing happened with the Rezound, htcdev worked at first (unofficially) then months later it was back officially.
same will happen with this phone IMO, AND S-OFF is being worked on already, the Rez took 6 months before S-OFF had interest
Newts Rez bricked from what he told me
I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
Man newt.. they must be rough on you bud.
Hope it gets better, sad to hear people are being an asshole to a good developer. I'd be happy to see you on the OG Incredible again or the Nexus!
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I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
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i didn't see anything like that, ????? i think people are getting antsy waiting for something, i'd just ignore it.who cares what they say!
I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I've been doing this along time and I know about trolls trust me, but I want whoever has the problem to speak up but they prob wont
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Can we just agree to ignore it? Drama comes in many forms.
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I have never and will never rate a thread. Either it applies to you or it doesn't. If I have a problem with what's going on in the thread, I'll address it with the problem poster.
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I hope someone comes through with a development phone for you... PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! We certainly need all the help we can get! I
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It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I don't even own this phone, I'm still on a Dinc, however I just voted the thread 5 stars, does it impact the difference of you dev for this phone or getting a used phone to dev on, it probably won't or shouldn't. I also sent the email, about the bootloader, and I spoke with VZ exceutive office about the locked bootloader, is that going to make a difference to VZ on unlocking it, probably not, but I did it for the group cause, because I would like to get this phone.
Honestly, it's guys that have the time and talent like yourself and other dev's that help make these phones what they are, if you aren't interested in this device, that's your decision too but I think 99.9% of us don't have the knowledge you do on these phones, so we greatly value your work, and would like to see you and others help us out, while we try to do what we can to help out.
I don't know what happened to the REZ forum, but I've heard it was a bunch of BS Drama, that I've never seen on the Dinc forum, maybe your burnt from that experience, don't know, but I wouldn't let a thread vote sway your opinion on this group here.
thankfully newt has an Inc4 and will be up and going once root comes.
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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I second that! :good:
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I've been here for 4 years or so, and up until this thread never bothered to notice the threads had ratings. Now that I am aware of the ratings, I will continue to ignore them.
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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you the man hasoon, GOOD LUCK
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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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Melodycd said:
I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
Ranger093 said:
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.
A contributor or dev posts a ROM and many people download and flash it. The ROM is solid yet has a few bugs. The Dev responds to comments about these bugs and says they will be fixed in the next release. For the benefit of the doubt let's say a few weeks go by and the Dev volunteers info about this ROM but says a release isn't ready yet. Fair enough. A few more weeks go by with no mention of a release. Why is asking for an ETA frowned upon in this, albeit rare, situation?
The go to response is "these guys do this on their own time. They aren't being paid. How dare you even assume to think that you deserve any sort of progress update". I get it, but my point is, the Dev posts a ROM for it to be used by the people and to get offended because someone asks for an ETA is kind of ridiculous to me. If the Dev was doing it for just himself he wouldn't post it on the forum and I'm saying that making the ROM public comes with a few caveats. Like maybe some people have an Interest in progress.
Full disclosure: I've been an xda user for a long time and I've seen many people needlessly get their heads bitten off for asking for an ETA. I want to ask for an ETA in a thread and I'm afraid of the stupid backlash.
Maybe this goes in the general section. I'm not sure. I am technically asking a question.
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A contributor or dev posts a ROM and many people download and flash it. The ROM is solid yet has a few bugs. The Dev responds to comments about these bugs and says they will be fixed in the next release. For the benefit of the doubt let's say a few weeks go by and the Dev volunteers info about this ROM but says a release isn't ready yet. Fair enough. A few more weeks go by with no mention of a release. Why is asking for an ETA frowned upon in this, albeit rare, situation?
The go to response is "these guys do this on their own time. They aren't being paid. How dare you even assume to think that you deserve any sort of progress update". I get it, but my point is, the Dev posts a ROM for it to be used by the people and to get offended because someone asks for an ETA is kind of ridiculous to me. If the Dev was doing it for just himself he wouldn't post it on the forum and I'm saying that making the ROM public comes with a few caveats. Like maybe some people have an Interest in progress.
Full disclosure: I've been an xda user for a long time and I've seen many people needlessly get their heads bitten off for asking for an ETA. I want to ask for an ETA in a thread and I'm afraid of the stupid backlash.
Maybe this goes in the general section. I'm not sure. I am technically asking a question.
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Well let's see,
They are doing this on their own time and money
They are doing this for FREE
The have jobs,
They have familys
Changing one item will or may affect other portions of the rom
Sometimes the best of intentions don't work out
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIVE MINUTE JOB
It only takes a couple of minutes............................................hours later the change still does not work!!!!!
You should be ashamed for even bringing the topic up!
RLGL said:
Well let's see,
They are doing this on their own time and money
They are doing this for FREE
The have jobs,
They have familys
Changing one item will or may affect other portions of the rom
Sometimes the best of intentions don't work out
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIVE MINUTE JOB
It only takes a couple of minutes............................................hours later the change still does not work!!!!!
You should be ashamed for even bringing the topic up!
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Well, I'm not ashamed.
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thenaut said:
Well, I'm not ashamed.
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Then crack a couple books and start learning yourself rather than sitting on the sidelines asking the coach when you are gonna get some game time while only wearing your shower cap!
This is so funny to me. Everybody walks on eggshells and they all think the same thing. "I wonder how the Dev is coming along"? It's hilarious.
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thenaut said:
This is so funny to me. Everybody walks on eggshells and they all think the same thing. "I wonder how the Dev is coming along"? It's hilarious.
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I don't think that. I am happy a Rom is even released. In a house building scenario: you build a house/shelter for everyone. There is a minor flaw in the foundation due to termites or something... Nothing too serious, not life threatening. You still have to go and fix it without messing up anything on top of the foundation. You try to fix it only to see making that quick fix actually made the plumbing wonky. You fix the plumbing only to see it made it worse. Might as well just keep it the way it was before.
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I don't think that. I am happy a Rom is even released. In a house building scenario: you build a house/shelter for everyone. There is a minor flaw in the foundation due to termites or something... Nothing too serious, not life threatening. You still have to go and fix it without messing up anything on top of the foundation. You try to fix it only to see making that quick fix actually made the plumbing wonky. You fix the plumbing only to see it made it worse. Might as well just keep it the way it was before.
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Honestly, this post is more directed at users who get bent out of shape when someone even mentions an ETA. rudeness is the perfect word. I've never asked because I personally feel similar to you. I still wonder, though. The reaction to this question by users makes my skin crawl.
Related: when someone is ordered to read an OP and subsequent posts that consists of 100 pages. Really? I just want to know what the bugs are and I'm being told to read small talk anecdotes and broken English? It's stupid and rude.
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I get where you are coming from. If its a month out on something that was said a few days or a week. In that sense someone should reach out to the dev. If it hadn't happened with the instagram downloaded for xposed then none would have started the project themselves. But for other things, you do have to remember most of the people here lead a life with full time jobs and maybe a family issue or job issue came up. While they are making these things for us, it isn't their responsibility to inform people they Dont really know if a family member died or something.
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I get where you are coming from. If its a month out on something that was said a few days or a week. In that sense someone should reach out to the dev. If it hadn't happened with the instagram downloaded for xposed then none would have started the project themselves. But for other things, you do have to remember most of the people here lead a life with full time jobs and maybe a family issue or job issue came up. While they are making these things for us, it isn't their responsibility to inform people they Dont really know if a family member died or something.
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I agree. I'm also not calling out the devs with this post, although it may seem that way. The devs are the experts here and of course they have lives not connected to android. My beef is with the children like buddy up there with the first reply on this thread. His answer is exactly why I've been staying away from these forums.
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Just ignore em. Gotta remember there are people that are angry in general and that need to find an outlet for it. Not your fault, just the internet. Easily ignored. I think it was a good question. Been following these forums for over a year now and you do see it all too often.
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I agree. I'm also not calling out the devs with this post, although it may seem that way. The devs are the experts here and of course they have lives not connected to android. My beef is with the children like buddy up there with the first reply on this thread. His answer is exactly why I've been staying away from these forums.
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If that's what you think then you should know you came off wrong...which happens when conversing over type.
I took your post to be in the same offensive category as the self entitled who demand updates. (And yes I deal with them too).
I would much rather be wrong on my initial assessment of your OP but please understand how it was received.
Hi all...this thread caught my eye. Interesting subject. Nothing wrong with it. Its the little script kiddies that hold real devs to god-like status that act rude.
Been around since the G1. Hasn't changed. If a dev is worth a flip he or she will not get all bent out of shape. Has the right to say back off but at least it's from the guy with the actual talent saying it! I've seen devs eat that crap up and get diva complexes which makes me laugh when it happens. Threatening to stop work yada yada. Told one to piss off and leave...a long time ago, different forum. Someone took up that diva's slack...ended up with a nice ROM for a crap phone.
Good times.
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