At the moment I'm on the original stock rom, rooted, and i keep getting the low storage warning, but i don't even have very many apps on the phone. I've deleted much of verizons bloat, at least anything i see as safe and dont use, but it still keeps popping up, I havent tried a different rom yet, but plan on it, just havent been able to get a nandroid to stick and work right yet for some reason, but working on it at the moment. Does anyone find that any particular roms help more with the memory issue than others? I had the 16gb s3 and never had this problem. Ive looked for ways to put apps to the sd but havent found any yet unless im missing something. Does anyone have any tips on the best way to work around this? Ive gone through the entire internal storage and there doesn't even seem to be much on it. Once i get a nandroid to work i'm going to try messing around a bit more, but any advice is helpful as im sure im not the only one to come across this.
Might wanna check to see where these nandroid backups that you've attempted are being stored. They do go towards internal memory unfortunately until you can move over to external sd. I'm in the same boat as you. Stock rooted, but afraid to flash a custom ROM since my backups seem to have a md5 mismatch when trying to restore (on CWM)...havent tried on TWRP...Honestly don't really see a whole lot out there as far as custom ROM's that seem that great...yet. I've modded my stock rom to suit my needs just fine...
there might be something still lingering when you remove some softwares. Check system/app or data/app and see if something that still needs to be remove.
Removing system apps (ie, bloat) will not gain you any usable space.
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I think my problem may be that all my pictures are saving to both my external sd and internal for some reason...no idea why though...it also keeps taking my music off the sd and copying it to internal mem...I finally got a good nandroid using cwm, seems the touch version want working but the reg one has and I deleted all my bad nandroids...now that I have that I'm going to a deodexed Rom n hopefully that helps being I've never had issues on the s3 with them
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For those who have the same problem, you can try checking the log files in /data/log
I had the same problem and found hundred of RIL dump files (each about 1 MB size).
Deleting these files help to solve my problem and increase the available space in Internal Storage.
Where's my storage...?
I understand that Samsung is getting grief for how much memory they use, but I just wanted to post my storage up here to see how it compares to other S4 users. Does the OS/partitions used for things like cache take up memory in addition to the 7 GB of "system information" ?
I've got 1.55 GB to Applications, 191 MB to photos, nothing in downloads or audio, and 6.85 in "Miscellaneous files"
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It seems Galaxy Note also has this problem.
jager13 has posted this issue in code.google.com, so please anyone with this issue comment there so that google devs can know about it and fix it!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25563
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I believe that many of us (if not all) should have this problem.
I got so many apps installed, so many of them are installed in SD Card automatically by Android or I manually moved them to SD Card.
(In total I have ~650 app elements in Titanium Backup and keep growing depending on what I have installed or haven't restored at any given point)
The problem is since I updated from 2.3.4 to version >= 2.3.5 even to ICS 4.0.3 LP2, LP6, LPB, LPH.
Problem:
- Power On then phone will reboot after some 2-5 minutes idle and again reboot infinitely so I cannot use my phone at all.
- If I removed my external SD Card, no more reboot.
- Or if I delete some amount of .asec files in ".android_secure" folder (where the app in sd card is saved) in the external SD Card no more reboot.
- And yes, I have done many (if not all) imaginable things: re-flash, factory reset, wipe cache, fix permission, change SD Card, reinstall from market...
- And no, this is not specific SD Card problem.
There is older thread talking about this problem but the thread is about general reboot problem so it got mixed with other kind of reboot.
After trying ICS leaks in a hope that the problem is fixed I find that it is still NOT fixed
and maybe won't be fixed if not enough people complain about this problem.
And I think Samsung developers and QA don't know this issue.
It will be shame if SGS3 still has this problem. I absolutely won't buy it.
So to check this, I hope the reader of this thread to try this (Samsung based ROM > 2.3.4 only):
- Please move as many apps as you can or all of your apps to SD Card..
- Or please install as many apps as you can from market and moved them to SD Card if not already.
- The apps number is not exact (60 maybe more), more is better, maybe related with apps size too.
(I found that when my ".android_secure" folder size in external sd card approaching ~1.5GB maybe more, the reboot problem occurs)
- And then tell here that you have infinite reboot or not in idle mode 2-5 minutes after power on. Please try 2-3 times.
- Also post your ROM/kernel version, stock or mods.
- And please check that removing the external SD Card solve the reboot problem.
Remember that u have to be at least Samsung based ROM version 2.3.5 because this problem is side effect (2.3.4 and earlier does not have this problem).
For us who has this problem, please add your post to this thread to keep it alive
and don't forget to rate high so it will get attention from other users and hopefully from Samsung.
Let's make this issue known to Samsung.
And I hope that people who got firmware leaks from Samsung can tell them about this problem/thread.
List of threads mentioning same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491671
i faced exactly same problem with you, i thought is sd card problem at 1st, so i go and buy a new sd card, and the problem is still there....anyone can help us? now the sd card = nothing
Tried to replicate this problem by putting 67 apps onto sd card, but no bootloops.
On CM9 at the moment.
No issue here..
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I just found similar thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1328191
Still, my thread is to gather data about how many user can reproduce the issue..
killall said:
Tried to replicate this problem by putting 67 apps onto sd card, but no bootloops.
On CM9 at the moment.
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So it seems that this problem happens only in Samsung based ROM.
It is great that CM9 does not have this issue.
BigMrB said:
No issue here..
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May I know which ROM/kernel u use?
Are u using Samsung based ROM > 2.3.4?
I have this bad problem. I posted about this problem on old topics and how to remove this problem by return to old firmware with android 2.3.4.
Thank you for opening this thread because It is I think a general problem and the big problem that its happened with ICS. I tried and tried to solve this problem without success but I found that this problem start faster after transfer small size apps.
This problem must be solved, because we need to transfer apps to SD card.
Thanks again dragon135
i can confirm i am another user who had no issues at 2.3.4 upgraded to ICS LP2 this evening and now have this problem! not cool....
Ok flashed lp6 and so far so good
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I have had the same problem with the following Samsung Android versions:
2.3.5
2.3.6
I have a SGH-I777 (AT&T Galaxy S II).
I have tried several class 4 and a new class 10 made by Samsung. Same results.
After using App2SD and after moving several apps to SD, the device will eventually reboot right after the SD scan completes.
Removing the SD is the only way to fix this. You can reformat the SD card but the problem will eventually occur when you move several apps to the SD card again. I have been unable to identify a particular app that triggers this reboot.
i have the same problem with my lg o2x. no solution??
exactly the same issue with my Captivate
I moved more than 100 APPs to SD recently. It worked fine with Froyo. The only problem I had is the icon disappearing issue. After switching to GO launcher, everything worked fine. Today I upgrade my phone to GB (KK4, 2.3.5), and started to have the same problem. I have to unmount my SD card to keep my phone away from rebooting. With my wife's card, only data on it, my phone had no issue. Once I put my card back, it starts again.
I can confirm. This issue exists and NOT just samsung firmware. i had the same issue running MIUI. When there are too many apps (my count is 264 apps) the phone will boot, the back of the phone will get really hot and then within 2-3 minutes of booting reboot again to the same unlock or home page screen. And it will keep doing it until your battery is dead. it also drains the battery like crazy!!!
Seriously wtf?
Is there a way to move those APPs back to phone? This is really annoying.
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dredgd said:
Is there a way to move those APPs back to phone? This is really annoying.
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yes, just cut some .asec-files (as many as it needs) from the .android_secure folder an paste them into another folder, so that the phone won´t reboot anymore.
the apps according to the .asec files now won´t be shown in appdrawer.
than you install gemini app manager and move the smallest (if you have not much space on phone) or just some other apps you want back to phonememory. after that you can put the .asec files back in to the android_secure folder, so that those apps appear again in app drawer.
if phone still reboots: same precedure.
like others wrote, and my own experience: abourt 50 files in android_secure folder is ok, more: reboots.
or if you have backups from your apps in titanium:
put sd card in pc. delete all the small asec files, so that in android_secure folder remain only the biggest files. and not more than 50 files.
better only 40. than your phone should work again and you can restore those small apps with titanium, but before that, you tell titanium only to restore into internal memory.
this helps for me. but i really wouldlike to be able to install more apps an sd card! nobody??
wuffi123 said:
yes, just cut some (as many as it needs) from the .android_secure folder in anotehr folder, so that the phone won´t reboot. than you install gemini app manager and move the smallest or just some apps you want back to phone. after that you after that you can the asec files back in to zhe androis_secure folder. if phone still reboots: same precedure.
like others wrote, and my own experience: abourt 50 files in android_secure folder is ok, more: reboots.
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Thanks a lot. I'll give it a try tomorrow .
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LP6 and LPB still has this issue.
Another user has complain also in new thread. I update the first post.
For us who has this problem, please add your post to this thread to keep it alive and don't forget to rate high so it will get attention from other users and hopefully from Samsung.
As requested I also have this issue.
Seriously considering the downgrade to 2.3.4 despite the aggravation it will cause me.
I transfered all of them to my laptop first and then moved them back ~20 APPs at a time. But then I got the 'phone storage space is getting low' error. Trying to fix it eventually led to a 'factory reset'. I don't have backup for all of the APPs. Without all those junks the phone was very smooth and stable. Once I restored a few APPs and moved them to SD card, I was hit by random shut-down issue but no reboot yet. Finally I figured out why my phone went to sleep almost every night with me. LOL. It happened just after I moved most of my APPs to SD. WTF.
I own a rooted Samsung Vibrant running cm7, overclocked to 1.3ghz, with cwm recovery. My external SD was full to a byte and my internal had about 100mb free, so I decided to move all my apps on SD to internal. I used an app called App2SD that, among other things, lets you batch move apps. I selected everything on the SD and started a batch move. Like normal, it had to bring up the settings page for each individual app -- annoying, but necessary for the app to work on nonrooted phones. After repeatedly hitting "move to phone" -- back -- "move to phone" -- back -- "move to phone" etc. After almost freezing, and a few metric tons of lag, I finally finished. However, the phone immediately started acting weird. Apps would crash, even after reinstall. This included built in apps like "messaging." It also had the "low memory" alert on, even though the only memory that had gone down was the internal, and it still had >1gb free. (The notification might have actually appeared before, not sure.) Today, after getting into a bit of a jam because I couldn't text, I rebooted the phone. It stopped at the boot animation. I happen to have Live Dmesg, by Chainfire, which replaces the animation with the BIOS output at startup, so I could see that it was getting stuck in a loop after the normal PHONE_ACTIVE=1 message that is the last one I can read (it stops for a few seconds after that, the rest moves way too fast, and the phone boots less than a second later). I have tried rebooting several times, booting to recovery, rebooting, removing battery, etc. Nothing worked. I could probably get it working, as I can access CWM without much trouble, but that would require losing all my data. Yes, I use Titanium, and USB debugging is on, but it would still be a lot of trouble, and I would lose a significant amount of app data.
Any help would be welcome, thanks!
I suppose, in CWM you could mount your internal SD, and backup all of your data and such. Maybe try to move things around manually, and get it to a working state again.
Toast6977 said:
I suppose, in CWM you could mount your internal SD, and backup all of your data and such. Maybe try to move things around manually, and get it to a working state again.
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When you say to back up the internal memory, do you mean for safety, or to then reset to stock cm7, or what? I don't see how simply backing it up could help.
I don't think I could just move things around, unless I can get a hint from the output from live dmesg. I don't even know where the problem is -- are there any app2sd-able apps that are necessary for system stability?
Well, I guess I assumed you may have an idea of some of the offending apps that may have caused the problem by moving them. If you mounted, could have manually tried to move or remove them and maybe your phone wouldnt be borked anymore.
Probably would be easier to Odin to stock and start over.. move things over a bit slower and possibly one at a time so you can catch any errors or problems with the transfer.
Toast6977 said:
Well, I guess I assumed you may have an idea of some of the offending apps that may have caused the problem by moving them. If you mounted, could have manually tried to move or remove them and maybe your phone wouldnt be borked anymore.
Probably would be easier to Odin to stock and start over.. move things over a bit slower and possibly one at a time so you can catch any errors or problems with the transfer.
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I don't think I would even have to Odin, I can easily access CWM and reflash cm7 from there, right?
Also, I don't think the problem would happen again, I have done the same several times and I think it was due to the extreme lag and freezes that something got mis-moved.
I will examine the bios output, and if that doesn't give me any new info, revert to stock cm7 with cwm. Or with Odin through AIO if that doesn't work.
EDIT:
CWM'd back to a May backup. Old, but better than stock CM. Boots fine. Will try transferring apps a bit more calmly.
Just preferential to me, I rarely do it, so when I need to start fresh I just go that route.
Glad you got sorted out.
What do you mean stock CM?
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CyanogenMod as downloaded. Not "stock" exactly, but you know what I mean.
I recently flashed to Helly Bean. even better. However, the superuser is acting odd, denying access and asking repeatedly. ANy help would be welcome, though you guys have already helped me out, and thanks for that.
I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
JBMFT said:
I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
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The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
shimp208 said:
The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
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Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
JBMFT said:
Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
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Using Odin to re-flash the stock ROM will automatically setup the right configuration for. Do Not delete the files in /dev/block these are critical to the phones operation and part of the phones normal partitioning and operation as previously stated deleting these will cause a lot of problems if you delete them. If you really want to free up some internal storage space I would recommend deleting the carrier pre-installed bloatware, before you delete any bloatware makesure to backup the apps you deleted with Titanium Backup or a similar backup or flash Clockworkmod Recovery or Team Win Recovery Project and make a Nandroid Backup which is a complete backup of your phone. And don't worry about being gun shy we are all beginners at some point the only real way to become an expert if practice, practice, practice .
So I am working on the Heimdall One-Click.
Handshaking with loke, got no response. FML.
Help.
Edited: Apparently a low battery is not your friend...
after a little reading around on the net I tried a different one and BAM.
Back to stock. We'll see how this goes.
Being rooted with superuser had me spoiled...so much bloatware.
Hi guys, I am running cm10.1.3RC2 (so my device is rooted) and I want to utilize my 32gb SD card. Does anyone know how I can move apps to my sd card?
Also, does anyone know a safe way to re partition my internal HD so I can free up the 8.xgb of data that touchwiz used that I no longer will?
Please let me know if you can help!!
I would suggest buying and download Titanium Backup, an EXTREMELY useful app for more than just what you are asking for. With this app you can move them as easy as this! There are also several free apps that should do just what you are asking: AppMgr III, App2SD, Apps 2 SD. If you use any of those, be sure to read their instructions as the first of those three requires the SGS4 to be updated to the latest ROM first (which I don't think you want to do).
Here is a list of bloatware you can delete to free up some space. Some may take up next-to-nothing, but others may be taking up quite-a-bit. Notice that they are using Titanium Backup to make a backup first, just in case you delete something you wanted to keep or need.
You can also find ROMs like AOSP ROMs, which should help in recovering a lot of that space. But be sure to research, there are always things to take note of (i.e. many people believe the TW ROM has a better quality camera than the AOSP ROMs).
Heatshiver said:
I would suggest buying and download Titanium Backup, an EXTREMELY useful app for more than just what you are asking for. With this app you can move them as easy as. There are also several free apps that should do just what you are asking: AppMgr III, App2SD, Apps 2 SD. If you use any of those, be sure to read their instructions as the first of those three requires the SGS4 to be updated to the latest ROM first (which I don't think you want to do).
is a list of bloatware you can delete to free up some space. Some may take up next-to-nothing, but others may be taking up quite-a-bit. Notice that they are using Titanium Backup to make a backup first, just in case you delete something you wanted to keep or need.
You can also find ROMs like AOSP ROMs, which should help in recovering a lot of that space. But be sure to research, there are always things to take note of (i.e. many people believe the TW ROM has a better quality camera than the AOSP ROMs).
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Thanks for the advice! I downloaded app2sd and it says my phone is not supported. Additionally, with the flashing of the CM10.1.3RC2, I deleted all bloat ware, but still only have 9gb available.
When I follow the directions regarding moving to sd from titanium, when I clock backup/restore, no apps show up. I am using the pro version (the free version, not the pay-for version), could that be the issue?
Thanks!
I use "folder mount" as a way to move folders from my device to my sd card. I bought the app.
I'm not real sure if tibu can move them. But, to find out, go into preferences, scroll down to backup folder location and click on it. See where it has your back ups going to. If it is not to your external sd card, see if you can create a path to it. I'm not sure if it will or not, but look at it and see. Other than those two suggestions, I guess you can take the ota update as that is supposed to let you move things to the sd card, I think.
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I believe you need the paid version to do most of the useful things on Titanium Backup, I was never ever to accomplish anything with the free version.
You could try gimpy's suggestion of Folder Mount.
Nandroid Manager may let you do something in their free version, not sure though.
You can also try this method, but this will just make sure everything from then on will go onto your SD card (which will act like internal memory).
kr0th said:
Thanks for the advice! I downloaded app2sd and it says my phone is not supported. Additionally, with the flashing of the CM10.1.3RC2, I deleted all bloat ware, but still only have 9gb available.
When I follow the directions regarding moving to sd from titanium, when I clock backup/restore, no apps show up. I am using the pro version (the free version, not the pay-for version), could that be the issue?
Thanks!
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RootExplorer is free and you can move and rename any folder. I would use this over folder mount just in my opinion. Easy to find your apps and move them right to your extsd card. But there are a ton of options. And for what your talking about on Titanium you have to have the pro version free doesn't let you.
Hi,
sorry to disturb you but I do have some little "problems" with my HTC ONE AT&T.
I bought this phone, simunlocked already, and with revone I put it SOFF and than I "converted" it to international version of it (thinking that keeping the AT&T versionI coudn't install internatinal rom...I understood I was wrong but anyway I'm from Europe so I like to have international CID).
Few strange things happened (I'm not sure if it's normal or not).
The first one is that it seems that my phone is loosing memory, it's supposed to have 32 Gb but, as you can see from the attachment, it has just 25.5 Gb, is that normal (I do use a really slim rom, just 150 Mb, but anyway it's the same with any rom I install)...is it normal? Is it possible to format ALL and restore all the memory to an initial state (where there shall be at least 30-31 Gb avaialble I think)??
The second is that sometimes, after installing a rom, exiting the aroma installer, the screen become black instead of getting me back to the recovery (actually it seems it brings me back to the recovery but the screen goes off and no way to turn it on...so force reboot and than everything works fine....but sometimes reinstalling the same rom over and over it works fine, it bring me back to recovery and I can normally reboot the system), is it normal?
Than during the boot it says that this is a test device and so on (a sentence written under the HTC logo), is there a way to remove it? I thought I could do it with revone (I thought it was the tempered flag) but I tried the following thing and isn't removing it even if it says succesfully: Re-run revone to remove TAMPERED from your HBOOT screen: ./revone -t (but maybe it's another thing).
So is there a way to remove that sentence?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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TopoX84 said:
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Well is like installing Linux on a computer.. The easy setup sets different partitions that the system is going to use for multiple purposes hence losing some GB in the process to be able to perform as required.
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Solarenemy68 said:
Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
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Ok I do understand that but as you can see from the screenshot attached in Setting-Storage it says Total Space 25.59Gb, available 24 and something.
I would like to see/understand/access the remaining 6/7 Gb that are not showed there!
I've the feelings that the memory is decreasing every time I'm installing a rom, I also formatted EVERYTHING. loosing the operating system (than I had to push a rom in the memory) but still is like that!
Any suggestion or idea on how to see what is inside those 7 Gb "missing" from the total space?
Any way to format them?
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
cschmitt said:
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
cschmitt said:
It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
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Ok, Thanks
Solarenemy68 said:
I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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If I knew that 32 Gb meant 25 I would consider to buy the 64 Gb too ... but other than te space I just wanted to understand IF it was normal that, after just flashed a really basic clean rom (just 156 mb of rom) it was normal to have just 25 Gb free (no other additional apps, no photo and so on) ... it's normal, ok, I'll be happy with that and next phone I'll consider a 64Gb version of it.
Thanks everyone for the reply