[Q] Is it possible to root without bootloader unlock? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?

universexda said:
If you're higher than vraljb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.

dragonstalker said:
I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.
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Actually I've already unlocked and rooted using Outler/Radeklav's method, but I'd like to know for other people who have asked if it's possible to root, keep stock ROM and keep the bootloader unlocked for above vrajb phones. (I know you can do it for vrajb phones using the Exynos exploit.)

universexda said:
If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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shangrila500 said:
The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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Thanks for the word.

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Root for tmobile HTC one

Hey guys,
Just wanted to say that I was successful in rooting my htc one for tmobile and installing a custom recovery. I used the tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
Just wanted to spread the news in case you were wondering if it was possible.
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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I hope I CAN unlock the bootloader, lol.
which version did you use? the M7 or the ATT or sprint? just wanted to know so i dont blow my phone up on the first day lols
pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
psufan5 said:
pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
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Yeah thats what I did. I also followed the tutorial in the android development forum.
Edit: I'm gonna go for the M7 version because it says M7 in the bootloader. Wish me luck!
Yeah I'm wondering that too, do we use the M7 version or the ATT one? I'm assuming the M7 because the Tmo version is no different than the international version.
I used the m7 version last night. Worked great. Note sitting on the stock firmware with cwm touch and root. Needed to get rid of all the junk apps
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RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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You are going to need to unlock the bootloader
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Just want root access, not the custom recovery/ROMs
I'd like to have root access to my HTC One, so that I can use Titanium Backup. That's really the only reason I rooted my Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (for that, I used SuperOneClick).
I found this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
How do I use this program to maintain the stock recovery and just grant root access?
Is it possible to do the following?:
1- follow the prerequisites in the "To root the phone. Follow in order" and click Go.
2- Skip "Next, flash a recovery."
3- Flash Kernal
4- Run "Perm Root"
Will that work? If not, what do I need to do to get what I want?
I'm not interested in custom ROMs and I don't want to worry about screwing something up. I use wifi calling, and it's important that I have it.

Bootloader unlocked?

Any word on how far people are or how close people are to unlocking the Bootloader?
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has anyone found or started to work on an app to unlock your bootloader. like easy un lock on the galaxy s3
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I doubt that will happen. The only reason that existed was because someone leaked a unlocked bootloader. So unless that happens for the GS4, I don't think you'll see an ez unlocker app.
greatnesstx said:
like easy un lock on the galaxy s3
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I actually prefer the way it is now. The phone is basically unbrickable because you can't break the bootloader, but we can flash kernels, ROMs and recoveries without issues.
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If we are able to keep using the Loki workaround is there a need to unlock the bootloader? Does this mean we will have to make sure not to accept any OTA's before we get a custom ROM on our phone? If there is an OTA that gets through to my phone, does this mean I wont be able to reroot if they patch the Loki exploit?
steveperrry said:
If we are able to keep using the Loki workaround is there a need to unlock the bootloader? Does this mean we will have to make sure not to accept any OTA's before we get a custom ROM on our phone? If there is an OTA that gets through to my phone, does this mean I wont be able to reroot if they patch the Loki exploit?
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That is kind of my point...we already have the things that an unlocked bootloader gives you. The only thing is maybe unlocking for use on another network, but that is a pretty small population, and they can just get the dev version since they can't use the subsidy anyway.
The devs will make sure to break OTAs on the custom ROMs, and having a custom recovery prevents them, too. Or just flash an AOSP based ROM and forget it.
Or to put it simply, don't fix what ain't broke.
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The only reason I ask is because I want to flash a custom Rom that is debloated and tweaked for more performance or a smoother interface. Am I able to do all that as the phone is now without unlocking the boot loader? And if so what are the risks of using the Loki tool?
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brizey said:
That is kind of my point...we already have the things that an unlocked bootloader gives you. The only thing is maybe unlocking for use on another network, but that is a pretty small population, and they can just get the dev version since they can't use the subsidy anyway.
The devs will make sure to break OTAs on the custom ROMs, and having a custom recovery prevents them, too. Or just flash an AOSP based ROM and forget it.
Or to put it simply, don't fix what ain't broke.
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I'm still learning about the custom recovery. I created one using GOO, does that automatically stop OTA's, or should I try and do the file renames and freeze with TiBu?
There will still be work done to try to get a full unlock rather than a workaround. VZW will find a way to patch dans exploit. What happens to people who buy the phone after that? SOL? or if you break yours and have to get a replacement, and that one has the patch? Dans exploit is fantastic, but we should still look for a permanent solution.
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[Q] About Unlocked and Roms

Well my case is like this!
I'm looking to buy a motorola photon online,it was on spring and it suposed to be unlocked for every carrier. i'm from mexico, we use telcel.
The motorola photon only comes with GB android, and i've always like to modify my phones with roms, root, etcs.
Before i do any transaction i'd like to know if i can instal ICS roms or any other cooked roms without loosing the unlocked carrier?.
I know that theres a lot of ways on unlocking carriers like imei and other programs, but if i loose it, the unlocking is gonna cost me something?
Unlocking the bootloader is only to install roms? or i can do an unlocking carrier by unlocking the bootloader? it cost me anything?
This method by Lokifish Marz is to unlock bootloader or carrier???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
I had been investigating about that but i dont find an straight anwser! im sorry if this looks to newbish, i know if i open the bootloader i can install another kernels and roms, but i loose the 4G :crying::crying: and if the cel is 2.3.5 it can´t be unlocked! it has to be downgrade!
i hope you can helpme! thanks a lot!
Txuy said:
Well my case is like this!
can instal ICS roms or any other cooked roms without loosing the unlocked carrier?.
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unlocking bootloader and installing a custom rom will not make you lose sim unlock
Txuy said:
the unlocking is gonna cost me something?
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sim unlocking is usually only possible via SOLD sim unlock codes so yes, if you need to sim unlock you have to pay
Txuy said:
Unlocking the bootloader is only to install roms?
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unlocking the bootloader is done to be able to flash custom recovery, custom ROMs and custom Kernels, improving the performance and usability of your device
Txuy said:
or i can do an unlocking carrier by unlocking the bootloader? it cost me anything?
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bootloader unlocking and carrier unlocking are not related. bootloader unlocking can be done for free by yourself with the help of the info here in XDA. SIM unlocking requires a code you usually have to buy.
Txuy said:
This method by Lokifish Marz is to unlock bootloader or carrier???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
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unlock bootloader
Txuy said:
I had been investigating about that but i dont find an straight anwser! im sorry if this looks to newbish, i know if i open the bootloader i can install another kernels and roms, but i loose the 4G :crying::crying:
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losing 4G shouldn't be of much concern to you. Telcel doesn't use WIMAX 4G so you wouldn't have had any use to it anyway.
Txuy said:
and if the cel is 2.3.5 it can´t be unlocked! it has to be downgrade!
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if the cell is 2.3.5 already it cannot be unlocked and you CANNOT downgrade it because you risk HARD brick
The sim is only locked in US.
All other sims work.
But stuck on GB. Even if you could flash ICS the photons kernel is so old the video doesn't work well.
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custom recovery

I'm looking to install custom recovery on my Verizon s4 SCH-1545 4.3 VRUEMK2
what would be the best way to go about it thank you so much for any advice
difficulty is not a factor
thanks again
Can't. Locked bootloader with no exploits. Sorry.
My phone i think is unlocked does that make a difference and thanks again for your help
doriean said:
My phone i think is unlocked does that make a difference and thanks again for your help
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No difference
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doriean said:
My phone i think is unlocked does that make a difference and thanks again for your help
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"unlocked" has nothing to do with bootloader being locked down. Plenty of info in this forum concerning locked bootloaders and the options available to us who don't have a MDK base which had an exploit
Unless you have the MDK bootloader, sadly you are not unlocked.
MDK is the only unlockable bootloader, and if you have no idea what I am talking about, you are NOT unlocked and you should do some reading before attempting anything. Hashcode is currently working on a version of Safestrap that is compatible with MJ7 and up, but it is in alpha/very early beta and does not boot anything at the moment.
tsadev said:
Unless you have the MDK bootloader, sadly you are not unlocked.
MDK is the only unlockable bootloader, and if you have no idea what I am talking about, you are NOT unlocked and you should do some reading before attempting anything. Hashcode is currently working on a version of Safestrap that is compatible with MJ7 and up, but it is in alpha/very early beta and does not boot anything at the moment.
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There's no such thing as an "unlocked" bootloader for this phone. There's an exploit in MDK that lets users bypass the bootloader. That exploit was closed with the ME7 update.
riker147 said:
There's no such thing as an "unlocked" bootloader for this phone. There's an exploit in MDk that lets users bypass the bootloader. That exploit was closed with the ME7 update.
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By definition, when you use said exploit, you unlock your bootloader for modification. Please don't uselessly correct people especially when they aren't incorrect in the first place.
tsadev said:
By definition, when you use said exploit, you unlock your bootloader for modification. Please don't uselessly correct people especially when they aren't incorrect in the first place.
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Not really. Unlocking a bootloader is different than a bootloader with a Loki exploit.
joshm.1219 said:
Not really. Unlocking a bootloader is different than a bootloader with a Loki exploit.
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Just had this discussion with @riker147 over PM. Using his analogy with my additions:
Entering a house through the window doesn't unlock the door, but it does give you free rein to do so.
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tsadev said:
Just had this discussion with @riker147 over PM. Using his analogy with my additions:
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That's a very good way to put it lol although you could unlock the door once you're in the house, not exactly the same here. Using Loki is no different to us end users, but a fully unlocked bootloader would make things easier for people like the TWRP team or AdamOutler.
joshm.1219 said:
That's a very good way to put it lol although you could unlock the door once you're in the house, not exactly the same here. Using Loki is no different to us end users, but a fully unlocked bootloader would make things easier for people like the TWRP team or AdamOutler.
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Meh, done arguing. Basically what I'm saying is you can have a custom recovery with the exploit.
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Update to Casual for unlocking 4.3?

Does anyone know if there is going to be an upcoming update to the Casual software for unlocking bootloader on the newest firmware (MJ9) on the verizon galaxy note 2?
Or is there another tool for doing that?
I mistakenly did the OTA from verizon and I now I am unable to find a method for unlocking bootloader to install a custom recovery. Is safestrap possible for note 2?
thanks
jazz2311 said:
Does anyone know if there is going to be an upcoming update to the Casual software for unlocking bootloader on the newest firmware (MJ9) on the verizon galaxy note 2?
Or is there another tool for doing that?
I mistakenly did the OTA from verizon and I now I am unable to find a method for unlocking bootloader to install a custom recovery. Is safestrap possible for note 2?
thanks
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I shared your pain! This worked for me, Note II, MJ9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
TX_Jax said:
I shared your pain! This worked for me, Note II, MJ9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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I agree it worked for rooting the device, but I still can't install custom recovery, which means the bootloader is still locked. Anyway to unlock that?
jazz2311 said:
I agree it worked for rooting the device, but I still can't install custom recovery, which means the bootloader is still locked. Anyway to unlock that?
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Yes that works for rooting and no there is no way to currently unlock the bootloader on the 4.3 OTA.
jcollier said:
Yes that works for rooting and no there is no way to currently unlock the bootloader on the 4.3 OTA.
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Anyone tried heimdall to install any custom recovery? It works for other devices to get cm installer, why not i605?
jazz2311 said:
Anyone tried heimdall to install any custom recovery? It works for other devices to get cm installer, why not i605?
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Locked bootloader
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