Any word on how far people are or how close people are to unlocking the Bootloader?
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has anyone found or started to work on an app to unlock your bootloader. like easy un lock on the galaxy s3
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I doubt that will happen. The only reason that existed was because someone leaked a unlocked bootloader. So unless that happens for the GS4, I don't think you'll see an ez unlocker app.
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like easy un lock on the galaxy s3
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I actually prefer the way it is now. The phone is basically unbrickable because you can't break the bootloader, but we can flash kernels, ROMs and recoveries without issues.
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If we are able to keep using the Loki workaround is there a need to unlock the bootloader? Does this mean we will have to make sure not to accept any OTA's before we get a custom ROM on our phone? If there is an OTA that gets through to my phone, does this mean I wont be able to reroot if they patch the Loki exploit?
steveperrry said:
If we are able to keep using the Loki workaround is there a need to unlock the bootloader? Does this mean we will have to make sure not to accept any OTA's before we get a custom ROM on our phone? If there is an OTA that gets through to my phone, does this mean I wont be able to reroot if they patch the Loki exploit?
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That is kind of my point...we already have the things that an unlocked bootloader gives you. The only thing is maybe unlocking for use on another network, but that is a pretty small population, and they can just get the dev version since they can't use the subsidy anyway.
The devs will make sure to break OTAs on the custom ROMs, and having a custom recovery prevents them, too. Or just flash an AOSP based ROM and forget it.
Or to put it simply, don't fix what ain't broke.
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The only reason I ask is because I want to flash a custom Rom that is debloated and tweaked for more performance or a smoother interface. Am I able to do all that as the phone is now without unlocking the boot loader? And if so what are the risks of using the Loki tool?
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brizey said:
That is kind of my point...we already have the things that an unlocked bootloader gives you. The only thing is maybe unlocking for use on another network, but that is a pretty small population, and they can just get the dev version since they can't use the subsidy anyway.
The devs will make sure to break OTAs on the custom ROMs, and having a custom recovery prevents them, too. Or just flash an AOSP based ROM and forget it.
Or to put it simply, don't fix what ain't broke.
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I'm still learning about the custom recovery. I created one using GOO, does that automatically stop OTA's, or should I try and do the file renames and freeze with TiBu?
There will still be work done to try to get a full unlock rather than a workaround. VZW will find a way to patch dans exploit. What happens to people who buy the phone after that? SOL? or if you break yours and have to get a replacement, and that one has the patch? Dans exploit is fantastic, but we should still look for a permanent solution.
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Okay so we achieved root n we are all happy. But its not done yet folks. We still need the boot loader unlocked. N lets be honest, there's only one man that can do this. Adam Outler. A lot of you seem to be coming from the S3. We all know that it was a ***** to unlock the boot loader. Adam was so close to cracking it before someone leaked the unlocked boot loader to him. So Adam said he's down to help us if we can get him a device. Here's the following he said:
"Yeah! I bet we can replace the Samsung Bootloader with U-Boot and then boot custom firmware. We've got plans for this on the similar Galaxy Camera which we are currently working on. I DO need this device.
Here's what I'd like to research:
1. Open-Source bootloader replacement
2. Dual-Boot from SD with Hardware modification
3. Possibly carrier unlock for use on AT&T and others
I need a device to complete this research. I don't have Verizon Wireless service, so, it's likely I will contest this device on XDATV when I am done. I'd hope to come up with a way to carrier unlock for everyone though. If I carrier Unlock it, I will keep it and use it for future projects/personal use.
Thanks for this offer. I would have never asked. If you can make this happen, Rebellos, Ralekdev and myself will get to work designing firmware and hardware mods to bust open security."
Now I just wanted people's opinions on if we should open up a donation thread for Adam. I mean the man is a genius. He was close to cracking the boot loader on the S3. Who knows, maybe we will get lucky enough to get Adam another boot loader leak
So what are your thoughts? Should we try to get him a device?
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I'm in for 10$ Friday. Not getting the n2 till after Xmas, but definitely stoked about Adam possibly helping out.
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Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
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Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
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No we can use kexec (I think that's how its spelled) to flash without an unlocked boot loader. It takes the phone longer to boot up n we can't flash kernels without the unlocked boot loader
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Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
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I am under the impression that this is not the case, as they are not mutually exclusive. One can happen before the other (but preferably bootloader). At this time from what I remember, we're having issues finding where the recovery actually lies. There's suspicions that it might be in a zImage and not in a block (since we cannot locate it).
I mean I just wanna get peoples opinions first. I know everyone including myself is getting tired of donation threads but this man can actually help us unlock the boot loader which is a big plus
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I would **** a brick if this was true...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34940460
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smw420 said:
I would **** a brick if this was true...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34940460
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It IS rooted BUT the bootloader is still locked, meaning we can't do any custom kernels or custom recovery, and we have to do any future flashing (until the BL is unlocked) via ODIN. Correct?
Never mind, i see that the boot loader unlock for the s3 does not work. So at least we can load a custom rom through Odin.
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Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
If you care about an unlocked bootloader, you may want to pass on it.
adrynalyne said:
Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
If you care about an unlocked bootloader, you may want to pass on it.
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Fack'n Verizon >.> Thanks for the heads up adrynalyne.
what does this mean? im new
drewdinie said:
what does this mean? im new
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It means Verizon made a patch so you can't use the unlock bootloader method from the last software version.
I wonder if this was to patch that exploit for the exynos processor reported a few weeks back. The side effect of course is a relocked bootloader. That's why I didn't understand why everyone was bringing so much attention to it. Let's pray that Adam can unlock this new bootloader.
The OTA is a side effect of a relocked bootloader, not the fix itself. The original exploit didn't use the Exynos exploit, so I doubt it matters, UNLESS the new bootloader in the OTA has closed the original unlock method.
The exploit needed to be patched. Wayyy too easy for malware to exploit it and screw you.
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I wonder if this was to patch that exploit for the exynos processor reported a few weeks back. The side effect of course is a relocked bootloader. That's why I didn't understand why everyone was bringing so much attention to it. Let's pray that Adam can unlock this new bootloader.
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Why don't you just not get OTA update? problem solved.....
dcdgoth said:
Why don't you just not get OTA update? problem solved.....
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What if we use insurance to replace our phones and we get one with this locked bootloader? Or what about people buying new phones? My wife's iPhone 4 was actually more valuable with iOS 5 than iOS 6. The iSheep still do not have a jailbreak for iOS 6.
adrynalyne said:
Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
If you care about an unlocked bootloader, you may want to pass on it.
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Thanks for this information. I already learned the hard way on my Transformer Infinity to never update before unlocking. This will give me a reason to unlock my Note 2, root it, and install CleanROM, which is also what I have on my Infinity.
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What if we use insurance to replace our phones and we get one with this locked bootloader? Or what about people buying new phones? My wife's iPhone 4 was actually more valuable with iOS 5 than iOS 6. The iSheep still do not have a jailbreak for iOS 6.
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Reverting back to stock is so easy....all you need to do is odin flashing stock tar file....which will relock and unroot your phone with working OTA update. And I was referred to current rooted rom users. I don't think they need to be re-unlocked nor re-rooted. Flashing another updated rom and kernel will pretty much take care of everything. Besides, adrenalyne already has bootloader safe OTA update working......so there is no point of worrying. However, if someone is planning to buy a new phone and needs his or her phone updated, then yes.
just unlock it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36895425#post36895425
AdamOutler said:
just unlock it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36895425#post36895425
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Thanks Adam. I really enjoyed your videos.
Bump.
Looks like my warning was correct.
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Bump.
Looks like my warning was correct.
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Thanks! Because of your warning I stayed away from the ota.
Thank you!
mike91t said:
Thanks! Because of your warning I stayed away from the ota.
Thank you!
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This. Thank you. Not that I have a problem with being stock, just would have put a bummer on me.
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if I used Odin to flash a completely stock tar image with just a root injected into it and then did the ota would I still be rooted? and what does the ota add anyways
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spikebball96 said:
if I used Odin to flash a completely stock tar image with just a root injected into it and then did the ota would I still be rooted? and what does the ota add anyways
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Fixes the exynos exploit, locks the bootloader, and updates the radio. Possibly some other minor patches looking at the patch file sizes.
Stay away from the ota unless you use the safe one I created in another thread. Ignore AdamOutler's comment in this thread as it turned out to be wrong and people got locked up in the process.
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Yes I stayed away from it as well and went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and now im happily running Jelly Beans rom so thank you. My question for you or anyone. Since im unlocked and on a complete new rom is this exynos exploit still on my device? If so how do u get it taken care of? Thanks and sorry for a noob question.
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INCREMENTAL said:
Yes I stayed away from it as well and went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and now im happily running Jelly Beans rom so thank you. My question for you or anyone. Since im unlocked and on a complete new rom is this exynos exploit still on my device? If so how do u get it taken care of? Thanks and sorry for a noob question.
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Depends on the kernel. I couldn't tell you with third party kernels, but the latest stock one from the ota closes the exploit and is safe to flash.
Ok thank you, I have that perseus kernal or something like that with the overclock feature. Learn something new everyday lol
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Will the current 2-24-13 update break root if we accept it?
Will we still be able to root with the current methods after the update?
Nobody seems to be worried or talking about it around here
Unless Im missing it
I wouldn't accept it just yet... It might break root, but the current unlock method will not work after the update.
Can't figure why there isnt more buzz around here about this?
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Can't figure why there isnt more buzz around here about this?
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Cuz 99% of people on this site have a custom Rom.
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I'm on viper Dna. Should I have even gotten the update?
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Me too. Running viper Rom with lk kernel and its downloading the update from Verizon. I'm going to refuse it and maybe install another Rom so it doesn't update
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This is exactly what I was talking about the rom & kernel will not stop people from getting the update notice
Luckily we can refuse it But those that accept it WILL lose root & possibly the unlock & will not be able to re unlock
with the current methods
All new phones will need a new way to unlock & root
There talking about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148488
This sucks
If you have a custom recovery the update wont flash anything to the device even if you let it download and continue so there really isnt a big deal as long as you have TWRP or CWM so im told
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This is exactly what I was talking about the rom & kernel will not stop people from getting the update notice
Luckily we can refuse it But those that accept it WILL lose root & possibly the unlock & will not be able to re unlock
with the current methods
All new phones will need a new way to unlock & root
There talking about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148488
This sucks
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You can't even install it with a custom recovery.
And many roms prevent the ota from working. Nits apparently forgot to comment out some lines in viper for preventing the ota
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If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
universexda said:
If you're higher than vraljb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.
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I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.
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Actually I've already unlocked and rooted using Outler/Radeklav's method, but I'd like to know for other people who have asked if it's possible to root, keep stock ROM and keep the bootloader unlocked for above vrajb phones. (I know you can do it for vrajb phones using the Exynos exploit.)
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If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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Thanks for the word.
Hey all. Was just wondering if we have roms for our G3 yet.
Thanks in advance
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Just stock.
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kreep22 said:
Hey all. Was just wondering if we have roms for our G3 yet.
Thanks in advance
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Bootloader still hasn't been unlocked yet.
bpyazel said:
Bootloader still hasn't been unlocked yet.
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A locked bootloader will only prevent loading a custom recovery and custom kernels.
I have a Note 3 (wife has a G3), and my Note 3 is still bootloader locked, but I'm able to load Touchwiz-based ROMs that use the stock kernel.
The trick is that a sort-of-custom recovery developed that loads prior to the OS, but not from the locked bootloader environment. (I don't know how it works... it just does.) It's called SafeStrap, and it was developed initially by HashCode.
I'm not sure if something like that is possible on the G3, or if it's a Samsung-only thing. It is a glimmer of hope for a Plan B though.
Good luck to all! I'm looking forward to putting ROMs on the wife's phone.
DrPhant0m said:
A locked bootloader will only prevent loading a custom recovery and custom kernels.
I have a Note 3 (wife has a G3), and my Note 3 is still bootloader locked, but I'm able to load Touchwiz-based ROMs that use the stock kernel.
The trick is that a sort-of-custom recovery developed that loads prior to the OS, but not from the locked bootloader environment. (I don't know how it works... it just does.) It's called SafeStrap, and it was developed initially by HashCode.
I'm not sure if something like that is possible on the G3, or if it's a Samsung-only thing. It is a glimmer of hope for a Plan B though.
Good luck to all! I'm looking forward to putting ROMs on the wife's phone.
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It's highly unlikely we'll see safe strap for this device A) because Hashcode is no longer working on Safestrap projects as he's focusing on a new career and B) they are still working on unlocking the bootloader. The devs are confident they can get it unlocked, and, failing that, there may be a loki-style by pass so we could still get a custom recovery and anything safestrap like would be unneeded.
Safestrap is typically only used when a boot loader unlock or bypass is deemed virtually impossible.