Hey, I have my Galaxy note 2 on stock rom, 4.1.2. Odexed
I was wondering which is the best kernel that supports swaping external memory on internal
I really need your help, i dont know which kernel I should choose, I was going to try redpill kernel but people are saying that it has battery draining problems
Please help me, I baby my note 2 and I would rather die than seeing my note 2 having issues, and thats why I dont flash custom roms
Or, if there is a way to swap external mem on internal with some kind of app or OTHER WAY THAN A KERNEL
Thanks
You can use search button for that script. And you have to use kernel with init.d support.
perseus has best battery life with good performance, high costumisation by stweaks. agni best performance set by trickster mod problem is i can't set over the gpu... neak is good but i think it,s not so smooth. that was a shot review of some kernel. my choice at the time is agni
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Perseus really does have the best battery drain.
But it lags in games.
Redpill has the best audio engine. Scoobydoo
Some members like. Neak more. Wolfson
Adam is currently going into the right way... You could. Try adam... Seems to. Ne. Very good.
Every custom kernel supports init.d.
Just flash the mod exsd2internalsd..... And you're good to go
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Stock is the best kernel, if you care about performance. Period.
But you'll realize that after using a fluid ROM like ARHD, with stock ROM performance of all kernels felt same to me. Still if I had to choose one I'd go for N.E.A.K, as it is pretty straightforward with nifty features, just if it had the exFAT support!
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Stock is the best kernel, if you care about performance. Period.
But you'll realize that after using a fluid ROM like ARHD, with stock ROM performance of all kernels felt same to me. Still if I had to choose one I'd go for N.E.A.K, as it is pretty straightforward with nifty features, just if it had the exFAT support!
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I don't know on what basis you're making this claim, but anyways it's been the exact opposite for me - Redpill, Perseus, Devil all have great fluidity (had to mess about with the settings of Perseus a bit to eliminate the initial lag - but with no other) - and I haven't tried OC/UV much. Not to mention the headphone/speaker amp and saturation prevention options, screen calibration etc. which you miss out on stock.
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I don't know on what basis you're making this claim, but anyways it's been the exact opposite for me - Redpill, Perseus, Devil all have great fluidity (had to mess about with the settings of Perseus a bit to eliminate the initial lag - but with no other) - and I haven't tried OC/UV much. Not to mention the headphone/speaker amp and saturation prevention options, screen calibration etc. which you miss out on stock.
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The basis was my own testing with Perseus, Red Pill and even Adam, for a pretty long time. Not a single one was as fast and fluid as stock, even with the modified settings of stock kernel found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41902544&postcount=4602
Oh, and as I said, if you are on stock ROM you won't notice anything, that's why I used Perseus as long as I was on stock ROM, but since I moved to ARHD, there was no other option other than stock.
Yes, I agree there are some advantages of custom kernels, like saturation prevention as you said, but no way I was giving up very noticeable performance degradation for some extra features without which I am not bothered at all. And since I installed Viper there are some amplifications, so that point is unchecked from custom kernels advantage list.
PS: If you have no problem could you send me your settings of whatever kernel you are using? I wanna try once more and see. Please don't bother if that kernel doesn't support exFAT.
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The basis was my own testing with Perseus, Red Pill and even Adam, for a pretty long time. Not a single one was as fast and fluid as stock, even with the modified settings of stock kernel found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41902544&postcount=4602
Oh, and as I said, if you are on stock ROM you won't notice anything, that's why I used Perseus as long as I was on stock ROM, but since I moved to ARHD, there was no other option other than stock.
Yes, I agree there are some advantages of custom kernels, like saturation prevention as you said, but no way I was giving up very noticeable performance degradation for some extra features without which I am not bothered at all. And since I installed Viper there are some amplifications, so that point is unchecked from custom kernels advantage list.
PS: If you have no problem could you send me your settings of whatever kernel you are using? I wanna try once more and see. Please don't bother if that kernel doesn't support exFAT.
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I never ever stayed stock except for the while I had to send it to service. Otherwise I used redpill (exFAT supported) and I've noticed no difference at all from when I had stock unrooted. What's your issue - are you experiencing lag with custom kernels? Or what?
Fair point regarding Viper (love it and use it always myself), but FLL tuning and DAC resampling options make it sound better at that. IMO.
I stay on Perseus, mainly because of its color calibration and all the Stweaks customization features. Now if I use stock kernel, I feel my screen is completly unrealistic, almost fluorescent lol
As for performances, the Note 2 is just powerful enough not to see any difference between kernels. People using ARHD will always tell you that stock kernel is the best for the following reason: Mike1986 says stock is the best and won't give support if you're using another kernel. Period.
I'm using ARHD, but can't stand the fake colors and the lack of customization provided by stock kernel (no GPU overclock for example, no CPU overclock, nothing you can do if your "whites" are pink or blue, etc)
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As for performances, the Note 2 is just powerful enough not to see any difference between kernels. People using ARHD will always tell you that stock kernel is the best for the following reason: Mike1986 says stock is the best and won't give support if you're using another kernel. Period.
I'm using ARHD, but can't stand the fake colors and the lack of customization provided by stock kernel (no GPU overclock for example, no CPU overclock, nothing you can do if your "whites" are pink or blue, etc)
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What the hell does this suppose to mean? Mike says.....blah blah....I don't care what Mike says! And what support are you talking about? I was on Perseus while I was using A.R.H.D, one can flash any kernel on ARHD, what to support there?
It's my view, and I am quite sure of all the ARHD users too, the stock kernel gives much more fluid and lag free performance than any other kernel available. Everybody likes customization, but as I said not with the price of performance compromise.
And you can OC GPU/CPU with Tegrak on Stock kernel. Get your facts straight before typing some gibberish.
Perfect example of why "best ROM/kernel" threads are not allowed.
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Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
siyah 2.6.4.
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
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Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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kimitza said:
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
I have been wondering how individuals can make custom kernels that outperform the stock Android kernel made by Google's finest.
I use a custom kernel which gives better speed, battery, extra mods etc. but it has been made by a 21 year old student.
Why don't Google just build the kernel like that in the first place? They've got the know-how, right?
I think a lot of it is that the kernels that come stock work best with the phone in general. Sure, you can overclock and everything but at the end of the day that ends up decreasing overall life of the device by adding extra stressors on the device.
Not saying that that's even relevant anymore, given that the 2 year contract is definitely short enough to beat the hell out of your phone without too many major repercussions at the end of it. I think they just like investing in the long term.
Agree. Stock kernels are most stable.
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Also agree stock kernel is better all round in most cases but of course you get better performance with a good custom kernel.
You do get instability and worse battery in most cases on custom. Depends what you want out of your phone. Most of my roms I release with stock kernel.
I think everybody is just obsessed with over clocking when in most cases is not needed
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Custom kernels are like teenagers and sports cars. Eventually you grow out of it and want stability. However custom kernels are awesome and thanks to the devs who tweak then.
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Also agree stock kernel is better all round in most cases but of course you get better performance with a good custom kernel.
You do get instability and worse battery in most cases on custom. Depends what you want out of your phone. Most of my roms I release with stock kernel.
I think everybody is just obsessed with over clocking when in most cases is not needed
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Overclock maybe yeah, not needed. But undervolt, it can saves battery life..CMIIW.
They sure are mate, they sure are!
But, they "could" mess around with the phone and its functionality "if" its not the perfect one!
Mostly, the battery life "if" its overclocked!
There are so many kernels out there which claim better battery life and performance, but which ones have you guys found to be the best?
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I prefer Siyah. Not only has the dev been around for quite some time but the kernels are usually well-balanced and feature-rich.
Usually the kernel's power tweaks are only a small part of how the phone operates, getting rid of bloatware and "bad" apps such as Facebook or Skype is usually far more effective.
Depends,if u want a rock solid kernel with no additional features like UV/oc then go for speedmod,if u want great overall kernel with great sound improvement then go for siyah or franco.
Persius by andreilux is also a great kernel.
my personal favorite is siyah or speedmod
Edit:if u go for siyah then remember to download EXTWEAKS from market. To control kernel features
Stock kernel.
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I personally prefer siyah because of the extweaks app. Other kernels show all these amazing features but I havent got the time to open a terminal and type out a load of "stuff" for that reason alone siyah is the best in my books
I've received different recommendations from everybody I talked to, but I would like to know what custom kernel people love most right now. I'm running simple rooted version of 4.2.2 right now with the stock kernel. I'm looking for something to improve battery life a bit and get rid of the weird graphical hiccups that can take place when rapidly switching tasks.
Let's hear it. Thanks.
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lr4life said:
I've received different recommendations from everybody I talked to, but I would like to know what custom kernel people love most right now. I'm running simple rooted version of 4.2.2 right now with the stock kernel.
Let's hear it. Thanks.
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I've been using Franco Kernel since the start and it's worked great. Definitely helps with thermal throttling issues.
lr4life said:
I've received different recommendations from everybody I talked to, but I would like to know what custom kernel people love most right now. I'm running simple rooted version of 4.2.2 right now with the stock kernel.
Let's hear it. Thanks.
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I'm using KTManta. Works pretty well and I can recommend.
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Ktmanta is definitely the best kernel on nexus 10, and other devices for that matter. Load it up with the ktweaker app, set it to ktoonservative and row, and :good:
Franco seems to have a cult following, but the kernel just isn't where Ktmanta is at by any means.
Using KTManta, and loving it. I've tried all the others and keep coming back to KTManta. Behind that I would go with Morfic's Trinity kernel.
Franco and Trinity are great kernels that give smooth performance and good battery. KTmanta is also a smooth kernel though and has far more options and tweaks than the other kernels. By default you wont see that much difference on it over the stock kernel though, since ktoonsez does not like to set too many settings different than what stock has for its defaults. But you can easily load up his free tweaking program, or run Trickster MOD, and set any options you want. The ktoonservative governor is by far the best governor for this tablet.
Definitely KTManta great overall performance
Trinity for life.
KTManta
SLP and ZEN for best benchmark score
Ktoonservative and ZEN for best user experience (Which is all that matters)
Trinity little more soft and not so heat producing like other kernels, little help for battery also ..
Ktmanta its too laggy sometimes and not so much help to the battery like most of here are screaming..
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There is no such thing as `the best' in the specific sense of the question.. They're free.. Go download them and try them yourself. Pick the one "you" feel is the best. Polling the forum isn't going to help you. You know what they say about opinions...
I like franco.Kernel. Can't say it's the best or not though since I really didn't do any in-depth testing.
Plenty kernel I try, at the end, I still back to custom ROM stock kernel.
franco - some issue and not stable.
KTManta - I still not sure why this is so famous, not the best in performance, even after use some people setting, it was better but not really great, and hang up sometimes especially when use certain I/O setting.
Trinity - Quite nice actually, not much to complain about it, but I don't see a need to use it.
By the way, I am happily running mrRobinson AOKP ROM with it own kernel.
I'm actually quite happy with KTManta, using the Zen scheduler and ktoonservative governor. Extremely smooth, lag free, with good battery.
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[*]KTManta - I still not sure why this is so famous, not the best in performance, even after use some people setting, it was better but not really great, and hang up sometimes especially when use certain I/O setting.
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Not sure how that happened. Using suggested settings this is the best performing kernel for me. If you're randomly messing with I/o settings yeah it can cause issues but I wouldn't suggest doing that unless you know what everything does KT + zen(minor tweaks) + ktoonservative + UV = battery and performance for me
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Plenty kernel I try, at the end, I still back to custom ROM stock kernel.
franco - some issue and not stable.
KTManta - I still not sure why this is so famous, not the best in performance, even after use some people setting, it was better but not really great, and hang up sometimes especially when use certain I/O setting.
Trinity - Quite nice actually, not much to complain about it, but I don't see a need to use it.
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There have been a couple releases with issues for me on KTManta kernel, but a couple releases out of the 20 or so versions is not much. The issues are quickly fixed and a new version put out anyway so maybe you just happened to come in and try it on one of those releases. This kernel is so popular because it has the most active dev and the most options.
And why do you think the Franco kernel is not stable?
For what its worth, Im partial to Franco's r3 kernel--having tested the others. It improved my overall web browsing smoothness on 4.2.2 which is all I was looking for after moving from 4.2.1. As previously stated, what's "best" for me may not be "best" for others. Cheers!
Kernels much like silicon slabs are unique...each device will respond differently. Try em all...and pick your favorite.
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You know actually.....
They are all good, if you know what you are doing.
Trinity and Franco are the best if you just want to set and forget. KTmanta is the best if you want to tweak and have options to play with.
Just wondering what kernels people are running on NOS m7 v2.0.3 it comes with the stock kernel. From reading thread it seems like a lot of people are using Beastmode kernel and a few people are using crpalmer kernel. Any advantages of one over the other? Will one work better than the other?
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Just wondering what kernels people are running on NOS m7 v2.0.3 it comes with the stock kernel. From reading thread it seems like a lot of people are using Beastmode kernel and a few people are using crpalmer kernel. Any advantages of one over the other? Will one work better than the other?
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Beastmode is faster IMO, benchmarks higher, overclocks to 1.9, has more options, it also has sweep2wake and the flashy button thingy, and USB drives mount automatically without a third party app. It doesn't have the best battery life but it's not bad either. It seems to get unstable for me when I put the lowest frequency at 192 mhz.
Crpalmers kernel is more of the opposite approach. Reliability, battery life, and improving upon all the faults of htc's stock kernel. The battery life is pretty unreal ppb this kernel. It's completely stable at any frequency with any governor. It doesn't have any extra frills though like sweep2wake or extreme overclocking.
Both of them are excellent kernels it's really just personal taste. I would recommend trying both for a few days and seeing which you prefer.
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Both of them are excellent kernels it's really just personal taste. I would recommend trying both for a few days and seeing which you prefer.
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Yeah I have been on crpalmer's for a couple days and so far have thought has done great. Not really into overclocking on my phone since I don't really using it for gaming or anything CPU intensive right now. Thanks for the input.