[Q] Android 4.3 w/ TRIM support - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Please forgive my ignorance in advance, I am very much a noob. I hope I am asking this in the right place.
It looks like Jelly Bean 4.3 will provide support for TRIM. Will this be a big deal for (continued) performance?
Is the TRIM support written into 4.3 code as a generic thing for all devices or will it be something that is hardware specific for each phone hardware? I guess my real question here is, will we have to wait on big red to release something with regard to G Note 2 (Verizon) for developers to have something to work with or will there likely be a port from another device?
Can anyone suggest a 4.3 ROM that is out for G Note 2 Verizon? Or maybe a good one that is in the works?
Thanks to all of the developers on this site, your work is appreciated by someone who tries a new ROM every week!!!

CWM already has an unofficial build out.
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I'm down with 4.3 providing me with trim. No more cruising the bars.

The TRIM support is only for Nexus devices. I have read that in every major article about 4.3.

miketoasty said:
The TRIM support is only for Nexus devices. I have read that in every major article about 4.3.
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The articles that ive read say it will be there for all devices and it will be left up to the OEMs to either enable or disable it.
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Nefariouss said:
I'm down with 4.3 providing me with trim. No more cruising the bars.
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Word.

HBOMB-9000 said:
Please forgive my ignorance in advance, I am very much a noob. I hope I am asking this in the right place.
It looks like Jelly Bean 4.3 will provide support for TRIM. Will this be a big deal for (continued) performance?
Is the TRIM support written into 4.3 code as a generic thing for all devices or will it be something that is hardware specific for each phone hardware? I guess my real question here is, will we have to wait on big red to release something with regard to G Note 2 (Verizon) for developers to have something to work with or will there likely be a port from another device?
Can anyone suggest a 4.3 ROM that is out for G Note 2 Verizon? Or maybe a good one that is in the works?
Thanks to all of the developers on this site, your work is appreciated by someone who tries a new ROM every week!!!
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Let me be the first to say welcome to the XDA forums. The information this community shares is phenomenal. You'll find answers to all your questions if you search through it. You can drop the "forgive my ignorance" tag because those were some good questions. I can now say I first heard of Android TRIM because of HBOMB-9000
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Here is also an app that will perform trim for you. Trim is very important in all nand type storage but only has to be done about 1 a month or a week depending how much you write and delete from the device (very important for crack flashers ).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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Reading the XDA thread on that app there's a known issue with some older devices. Do we know whether fstrim is safe on the GNote2?

cjm2576 said:
Reading the XDA thread on that app there's a known issue with some older devices. Do we know whether fstrim is safe on the GNote2?
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Yes it is safe with the N2, I use it on my all the time. The older devices used a faulty chip that would brick the phone when certain things were done.
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Related

JB from LG spotted for Korean phones.

Don't flash this on At&t. It will work but you will not have a working phone or data. You also might have a lot of trouble getting 3g/4g to work when you flash back.
I know it is for the Korean version but I thought your devs might find a way to download and take a peek. The site is in Chinese and I can't figure it out.
http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=642638
I am sure something more substantial will pop up very soon.
Here is an official video of the new LG Jelly Bean on the Optimus G too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInp9DeNko0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Now I am going back to the Sprint forums.
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Can't wait....
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Good news, hopefully we'll see this soon!
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Doubt we'll see it soon. AT&T still needs to get it's grimy little hands on it. I say two months before they start releasing it, then they'll stop updates because of issues with AT&T crap, then try again after another month. Textbook OTA updates.
Well more of hoping that the Korean source will help our developers
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How about leaked firmware? This is not for At&t ask don't flash it.
http://blog.seabow.pe.kr/?p=3149
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Neither are these. I am just posting so you can attempt to pull stuff. Don't flash!
http://disk.previrtu.com/list/10003/
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i want thaaaaaat!!!!
must be a way to put it in our phones!!!!!
Official AT&T JB upgrade is 6 months away, if we are lucky. A strong possibility that LG will renege on their promise to bring JB to US. But, no worries, as we have devs who are working hard to bring us JB and more. Right, devs?
ATT still needs to add the required bloatware before releasing it after LG does. I even unlocked my bootloader using shellnutt's $1 app on Google Play to show some support. hell i even logged in and did my first post after being registered for 6+ years with 0 posts to thank the devs on their posts!
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must be a way to change it from ATT to International one....
so we can install any leaked rom!
I know with the inspire, the device here able to port the leaked desire hd roms over just updated the kernel for the inspire
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^this. I came from the inspire too so I k ow it can be done, I just also know it took a ton of work from the devs.
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Very true it did take a lot of work to smooth it out, I was just trying to point out our devs here may be able to bring this to us and may even help with aosp as well
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jamesc760 said:
Official AT&T JB upgrade is 6 months away, if we are lucky. A strong possibility that LG will renege on their promise to bring JB to US. But, no worries, as we have devs who are working hard to bring us JB and more. Right, devs?
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I'm sure we see nexus 4 roms ported over by then, and at that point it won't even matter ( stock 4.1.2)
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Ok what no one seems to understands is that the thread creator posted this so devs can use this to work with and possibly port this to att... So why does everyone keep talking about the at&t update we all know that's going to be a while
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Ok what no one seems to understands is that the thread creator posted this so devs can use this to work with and possibly port this to att... So why does everyone keep talking about the at&t update we all know that's going to be a while
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+1
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You guys want some good news?
I worked a 96 hour shift minus 12 I came home to run errands. Well, I was going to flash one of the roms but I could at work. Everyone thought I was crazy but I knew the hardware was just too similar.
Anyways, someone flashed the firmware and it worked. One of the roms is a CDMA Rom but it is set up for a different frequency. Everything works but no phone or data. WiFi even worked.
So, I don't know if one of you want to try it but the K or S version might work on at&t.
Check and see what frequency they are on and try that one. You might have everything but lte.
Anyways, I am not sure how different the At&t phone is but it is worth a try.
Do it at your own risk.
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Thanks to Elisha here is the korean kernel.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdfl15d7j4albhm/boot.img
And system dump.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/na0gqlhdnmduspf/JB.ZIP
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kc_exactly said:
You guys want some good news?
I worked a 96 hour shift minus 12 I came home to run errands. Well, I was going to flash one of the roms but I could at work. Everyone thought I was crazy but I knew the hardware was just too similar.
Anyways, someone flashed the firmware and it worked. One of the roms is a CDMA Rom but it is set up for a different frequency. Everything works but no phone or data. WiFi even worked.
So, I don't know if one of you want to try it but the K or S version might work on at&t.
Check and see what frequency they are on and try that one. You might have everything but lte.
Anyways, I am not sure how different the At&t phone is but it is worth a try.
Do it at your own risk.
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Nexus 4 Roms? I'd like to find out a little bit more about this.. I'd just like an AOSP ICS rom..

TW 4.2.2 closing in? ...get ready Beanstown! xD

http://www.sidhtech.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-3-s3-android-422-update/1006086/
Since its safe to assume verizon will be running over this update again and again with its monster truck of doom and then leaving it to die in the mud long before even thinking about passing the carcass of whats left to its customers, our awesome dev's will be needing an international base, I'm sure, as soon as it is available in order to pass the greatness on to their VZ followers(ok me ) through their awesome ROMs that they work so hard on.
Soooo I was thinking; in order to hopefully cut the first step out (getting a hold of the update file itself) maybe the right combination of peeps(someone who is or knows someone that is on the international base) could read this thread and kindly have the update file extracted and ready to share to the devs as soon as its available...
If this is a waste of thread then I apologize. I'm just trying to help any way I can...
I flash ALOT ...and also yes.
I'm thinking we'll have the international base out by middle of next week. Hopefully we'll get some of the new features that's on the GS4 like the new photo stuff.
crossfingers :fingers-crossed:
Takes a deep breath, holds it, holds it, passes out.
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I really hope for the gesture features
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I wonder if the ROMs we have now will update their base to 4.2.2.. Or start a new rom/thread
Why would they?
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BornDroid said:
I wonder if the ROMs we have now will update their base to 4.2.2.. Or start a new rom/thread
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That's not even a question to ask. The devs are already on the latest version. And usually have the new base out ASAP.
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Id say it depends on what rom youre talking about. Ones built off the VZW base wont be updated until we get an OTA more than likely. Roms based on the International firmware will be updated straight away.
The article the OP linked only applies to the International variant, therefore its only moderately exciting.
I don't see the goods of the 4.2.2 and I prefer 4.1.2 lock screen.
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Id say it depends on what rom youre talking about. Ones built off the VZW base wont be updated until we get an OTA more than likely. Roms based on the International firmware will be updated straight away.
The article the OP linked only applies to the International variant, therefore its only moderately exciting.
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I prefer the Intl' roms myself so it still holds a lot of excitement.
tw33 said:
I prefer the Intl' roms myself so it still holds a lot of excitement.
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Im right there with ya! The international roms almost always have more features, seeing as how Verizon hasnt managed to get their grubby hands on it, and run a bit smoother than the VZW roms that have been modded to add the features back.
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4.2 will have some of the s4 stuff
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littleguevara said:
Id say it depends on what rom youre talking about. Ones built off the VZW base wont be updated until we get an OTA more than likely. Roms based on the International firmware will be updated straight away.
The article the OP linked only applies to the International variant, therefore its only moderately exciting.
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I was just wondering. Thank you for explaining this to me and answering my question .
littleguevara said:
Id say it depends on what rom youre talking about. Ones built off the VZW base wont be updated until we get an OTA more than likely. Roms based on the International firmware will be updated straight away.
The article the OP linked only applies to the International variant, therefore its only moderately exciting.
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Plus Beans builds off of VZW OTAs, so the thread title is a bit of false-advertising.
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1ManWolfePack said:
Plus Beans builds off of VZW OTAs, so the thread title is a bit of false-advertising.
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Beans said in his thread that once there was a 4.2 Intl ROM he would build off that...
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Beans said in his thread that once there was a 4.2 Intl ROM he would build off that...
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Yeah I can see some of the devs doing that since itll take verizon forever to push it to the note 2
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That was going to be my response exactly.
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I bet Samsung will not update the note 2 anymore if the note 3 comes in september like it's suppose to.
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rippedwarrior69 said:
I bet Samsung will not update the note 2 anymore if the note 3 comes in september like it's suppose to.
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They updated the s3 with the s4 coming out like it did. That's a silly assumption. And Samsung is great with updates. Verizon is the one who takes forever to push them. Please get your facts straight kind sir.
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[OFFICIAL] Verizon S4 4.4 KitKat (pre-emptive to stop all dumb threads)

I've been checking for updates all day to download KitKat, but it says I already have the most up to date software.
How long will it take Microsoft to release KitKat 4.4 for my Verizon S4. I can't believe they're so late with this update.
</sarcasm off>
i've looked through this entire thread and I cant find anyone with my problem so I thought id ask. Will I lose root if I take the update? How many roms are available for the new update? Almost none?! What?! Ridiculous! Oh well whatever i'll just go downgrade, its not like we dont have an odin image or anything ya noobs!
lol - had to add before this thread gets locked
I have a unlocked bootloader because I have MDK....
I have an idea for an unlocked bootloader, find a way to x y and z. "Sorry I have no experience".
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. I got kit kat on my S4 today! Not what I expected. Disappointed in the screen saturation so I wiped it and all is good again.
Microsoft can be slow at sending updates some times. Be patient, kitkat will come.
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My friend at Verizon said I was going to get lemon meringue pie if I bought some accessories and an insurance policy. Don't worry guys I bought everything in the store
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I read that the factory images for Kit Kat are available now but the guy who answered the phone at the Kit Kit factory said they don't sell photos. Anybody have one that I can flash though TWRP?
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I have had KitKat on my phone for a wile now, but now it it's starting to melt Do you think titanium back up could possibly freeze the melting?
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Hey the S4 is getting KitKat soon. Confirmed by an real Verizon Sales rep.
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Hey the S4 is getting KitKat soon. Confirmed by an real Verizon Sales rep.
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http://www.technologytell.com/gadgets/133811/a-list-of-devices-getting-android-4-4-kitkat/
It is indeed real. I just wonder when we will start seeing it and it's new features on our phones. It's nice that it will bring some continuity to the phones, as it can run on both low and high end devices. Perhaps eventually the OS fragmentation will be a problem of the past for Android.
Ok. Ok. I want to stay on mdk and get kitkat! Can I get an eta on when roms will come out. if they don't come out by tomorrow I'll just update anyway!
Smdhidatsptcfdanu!
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ermahgerd why is no one working on unlocking my boot leader. God this phone suckz.
Oh guys I unlocked the bootloader you just have to safe strap kitkat to your s-off and it will jump the Odin and your bootloader will be unlocked. Confirmed this on my cat's S4 as well.
... This is something like what I've been reading on the general discussion threads lately.
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"yes root! I can finally get rid of all the bloat and increase battery life."
(Installs rom)
Installs own bloat ( Better battery stats, 1000 widgets, another battery app, etc).
(Never ran stock for more than one day) "OMG battery life is awesome on this rom!"
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Classic op. Lol
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Classic op. Lol
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Nobody here on the S4 forums really seems to be interested at all in getting kitkat...
..... I for one cannot wait to get KitKat on the S4.
Drake9897 said:
Nobody here on the S4 forums really seems to be interested at all in getting kitkat...
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I just want gingerbread back
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I want kit kat but I don't want it breaking things as big updates like this tend to do.
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Have a break, have a...
I'm definitely looking forward to having kitkat, though I really want the 4.4 Google Play Edition ROM.
Does anyone have any actual idea for release of 4.4 on the S4 (I9505)?

Android 4.4 May cause issues with g2 locked bootloader.

I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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sacredsoul said:
Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
sidthegreatest said:
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.

Official - the 4.4.2 update - discussion thread

There's a leaked Samsung Android 4.4 schedule on the net and it points to January for the S4 and N3. Going by the title at the top of the screenshot/picture it's the international variant S4/N3. US will be even longer. I'm quite pissed about this as these are the flagship devices and should be upgraded MUCH sooner. Thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...xy-s-4-and-note-3-s-iii-and-note-ii-by-april/
Anybody complaining about non nexus devices not getting updates instantly have clearly not been paying attention the last 3 years. January is earlier than I would have predicted.
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Not sure how big of a deal KitKat really will be,...
I installed some of the newer files [Email, Calendar, QuickOffice] from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506623
To get some of the newer available apps, but moving to 4.4 washes away the hard work that Devs [Hashcode, beans, and Hyper] have already invested into 4.3.
I find Root and ROMs much more beneficial than the OS,....for now. De-bloating and customization is key!!
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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That's not entirely true, it does bring host card emulation to allow NFC devices without a secure element to use Google Wallet.
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We're men here. We always want the latest and greatest no matter what!
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Doesn't 4.4 officially have like emojis integrated through the entire system? I could have sworn that's what I could have sworn I read. If it's true, that's enough for me to want the update :thumbup:
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Just flashed CM11 4.4 on my N2
kwkw480 said:
Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Oh I agree it's not the same.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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ManOfBusiness said:
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
akellar said:
Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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I really had to think about it when I chose to get the Note 3, but I figure the features on this phone are pretty amazing, and the way its looking is that phones will mostly be locked in the future. ATT is locking theirs, Verizon is locking theirs, Im sure the rest will follow. If two out of the four major US carriers are doing this, there is a good chance that someone will find a way around it. For the time being, we have Hashcode who has found away around the lock for the most part. We just need to get something like Loki or KEXEC working.
My other option was to keep a phone that has outdated resolution, software and hardware..... I had the Note 2 for a year and was ready to move on.
mi7chy said:
Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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akellar said:
That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That part was for my Note 2. :cyclops:
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We accept the fact that the US carriers bend us over the barrel and do what they want to us. We accept it everyday by using their services, paying their crazy stupid prices and by accepting their restrictive contracts. Anyone who expects a US Wireless Carrier to offer an update let alone a Samsung update within a reasonable time frame is simply crazy.
The only reason the HTC One is getting it so fast is . . . well they don't have many phones to actually update or are worth updating so they have to keep pushing updates out to stay relevant. Of course the HTC one didn't get 4.2.2 we got stuck with 4.1.2 until we got 4.3. Of course I gave up on my HTC One long ago.
bajasur said:
4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Screen recording requires a PC attachment.

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