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So I've been reading some threads about the app JuiceDefender, and even tested it out for a few days, but before I really start working with it I was hoping to get some opinions. It appears that the major draw of the app is that it limits your data updates in order to save idle battery life. However, I generally keep an instant messaging program running (imo when it works, trillian and skype otherwise) at essentially all times. From a few tests with the app, it appears that when it turns off data updates while on idle, it also disconnects me from my chat apps, causing me to miss messages and such. Is this really just not the app for me, or is there something I'm missing? Does it really even help at all, or is it just another battery life placebo?
Thanks for any help!
The juicedefender version that is .99 allows you to set exceptions for apps when the screen is off. Unfortunately, doing so for an app like IM pretty much defeats the pupose of juicedefender as you're wifi or mobile data will need pretty consistent access
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BBock9 said:
The juicedefender version that is .99 allows you to set exceptions for apps when the screen is off. Unfortunately, doing so for an app like IM pretty much defeats the pupose of juicedefender as you're wifi or mobile data will need pretty consistent access
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Agreed. Would not suggest using it at that point
Hi,
I search but could not find on XDA
I use my X10 to log into my workplace wifi daily but the problem is that i have to manually connect it to the wifi network
Is there an app to make my X10 2.1 to automatically switch to wifi when i enter my workplace so that i dont have to manually do it daily?
The iphone has such an app
2.3 roll out is said to begin THIS WEEKEND!! so xcited i can provide link
khakhi said:
Is there an app to make my X10 2.1 to automatically switch to wifi when i enter my workplace so that i dont have to manually do it daily?
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How should the phone know, when you enter your workplace. There has to be some kind of trigger and in fact i dont really think that it is that hard to open the settings and turn wifi on. Create a shortcut or use an unofficial rom f.e. TW mod there you can switch wifi on in the drop down bar.
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Prove?
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I think Juice Defender Ultimate has a feature that uses the gps to do that.
punkkeks said:
How should the phone know, when you enter your workplace. There has to be some kind of trigger and in fact i dont really think that it is that hard to open the settings and turn wifi on. Create a shortcut or use an unofficial rom f.e. TW mod there you can switch wifi on in the drop down bar.
Prove?
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Yes the iphone has that app...so Android should also. Thats what apps are there for...to make our lives easier.
Was mentioned in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177372 that roll out will start this weekend.
But what is the trigger for your workplace? Should the wifi turn on 30mins after you say “‘til later honey!“ or what? GPS is more battery expensive than its worth. Tell me how the phone should know when you are at work?
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But what is the trigger for your workplace? Should the wifi turn on 30mins after you say “‘til later honey!“ or what? GPS is more battery expensive than its worth. Tell me how the phone should know when you are at work?
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my friends iphone does it...this is what separates Apple from other OS's
will try out tasker
khakhi said:
my friends iphone does it...this is what separates Apple from other OS's
will try out tasker
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Found a solution already?
Else try Llama from KebabApps. It uses the cell locations for finding your position. No GPS is needed. Can switch a lot of things beside WiFi. Also time dependant tasks are possible.
Honestly I used it some time ago. But my workplace is too near to my home. So it never knew exactly where I am ;-)
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Found a solution already?
Else try Llama from KebabApps. It uses the cell locations for finding your position. No GPS is needed. Can switch a lot of things beside WiFi. Also time dependant tasks are possible.
Honestly I used it some time ago. But my workplace is too near to my home. So it never knew exactly where I am ;-)
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thanx, i installed "tasker", still havent figured out yet how it works
will also try llama
Another vote for llama. Tasker is much more powerful, but I found llama more useful because it was so simple. The developer has been adding features and improving performance and respond to emails promptly. I really need to buy it already.
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I use "WeFi - Automatic WiFi" (NO, no typo! It's with an "e"...), free in the Market.
It makes a Wifi-connection in places that u assign as "always log in here"....
Works fine for me!
Greetz,
kwarkje
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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How to resize the widgets.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
Screen setting to never off. And honestly, why the hell do you want the screen always on while charging? I charge mine when I'm not using it.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
It already does by default
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
It already does by default
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
Stop doing stupid **** on your phone. Your battery wont last 20 hours if you use if heavily. Don't tell me your icrap did either. My wife says battery is ridiculous on her Skyrocket compared to her icrap 4
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
Depends on what email app you are using. Also, click the little icon in your notification dropdown. Brings you to the mail just received
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
dunno... doesn't bother me. It takes me less than 3 seconds to come to a decision on what the hell I want to do
How to resize the widgets
What launcher are you using? Touchwiz only lets you resize certain Samsung widgets.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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Stop using Touchwiz
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How to keep screen on while on a charger.
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Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
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It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
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Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
Thanks for the support. If I came from a walled garden, then why would I expect these functions that should be so easy to do. I have gone through the settings and came to the conclusion I needed help. Hence this post. If you can't help, I understand. Not everyone has that type of intelligence.
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See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
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Thanks for the info on the GPS and wifi. I guess I'm concerned so much about my battery.
foxbat121 said:
Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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That sounds like something ill need to look into and spend sonera money on. Thank you very much for the help. That's why I like XDA. Most folds are here for the common good. MOST folks.... ;-)
dastars said:
There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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u dont wanna keep the screen on all the time while on charge.these screen is not like lcd.oled screen have shorter life.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock
to save battery power from being wasted
@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
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@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
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That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
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cool
keep the questions rolling
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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How to lock the volume keys so they don't get bumped?
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Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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As to you wanting the lockscreen to stay on longer, there are several lockscreen replacements you could use. I'm not sure which ones have the option besides widgetlocker though. With widgetlocker, you can set the lockscreen timeout to various durations. I know it worked on my infuse, not sure about the note though.
The downside is that it costs a couple bucks and it will drain your battery a bit if I remember correctly because it keeps the device in a wakelock and does not allow deep sleep. Its not a huge battery drain, but it does some. However, if the timeout is more important than a tiny amount of battery drain, I suggest doing that.
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I have noticed an improvement using JD and that's actual not placebo. I get your point though on an app that runs to save battery. But whatever its doing, its working better than whatever I'm doing without it.
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Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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Hey, thanks for the reply. I'm trying some of these things you suggested. The general consensus is USB that ill just bought need to find things which is fine as I'm all about adventure.
slaydog said:
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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I'm still feeling my way through this app, but its awesome. Anyone here using it with confidence and proficiency want to share some of your custom tasks and settings?
When I get a calendar notification for work (3 hour reminder) tasker automatically sets my alarm for my preset times. Never forget to set alarm again!
Spen helper works great for some customization as well.
I use ivona text to speech engine to tell me when some of my automation is happening. Makes me feel like James Bond, and makes my wife role her eyes.
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harajyuks said:
I'm still feeling my way through this app, but its awesome. Anyone here using it with confidence and proficiency want to share some of your custom tasks and settings?
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I bought tasker when it was on sale but never got it to work very well. I watched the how-to videos, followed the directions, etc, just couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I recently starting playing with Automateit and have found it to be a lot easier (at least for simple stuff, which is all I wanted). I was easily able to set up a handul of rules (1. maps open, gps on; 2. maps closed, GPS off; 3. MX Player on, screen to 100% brightness; 4. Call ends, go to homescreen, 5. 11:30 PM silence all). They also have a "market" where you can download rules other people have uploaded.
Tasker seems more powerful, just beyond my grasp apparently.
tfly212 said:
I bought tasker when it was on sale but never got it to work very well. I watched the how-to videos, followed the directions, etc, just couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I recently starting playing with Automateit and have found it to be a lot easier (at least for simple stuff, which is all I wanted). I was easily able to set up a handul of rules (1. maps open, gps on; 2. maps closed, GPS off; 3. MX Player on, screen to 100% brightness; 4. Call ends, go to homescreen, 5. 11:30 PM silence all). They also have a "market" where you can download rules other people have uploaded.
Tasker seems more powerful, just beyond my grasp apparently.
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Yeah I can understand the frustration with the learning curve, just spent the last couple hours trying to set up auto profiles for when GPS and WiFi should activate only to realize I was failing because I'm pointing tasker to open the GPS or Wi-Fi settings menu instead of the state change toggle.
I'm going to stick with it though...hey I can't get any worse than I already am. It's funny because I'm really feeling like a super geek again...takes me back to the good old days off my OG DROID. Love Android, I will never understand iOS users.
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When I get a calendar notification for work (3 hour reminder) tasker automatically sets my alarm for my preset times. Never forget to set alarm again!
Spen helper works great for some customization as well.
I use ivona text to speech engine to tell me when some of my automation is happening. Makes me feel like James Bond, and makes my wife role her eyes.
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That's awesome, I'm trying to get on that level of automation. Are you able to do the calendar entries because it's a enterprise or Google account. I might need to go back to Enhanced Email so I can sync my calendar events to my Google calendar from 3rd party servers.
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I love this app! Only thing is that I wish it came with some profiles already.
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evolishesh said:
I love this app! Only thing is that I wish it came with some profiles already.
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Check out the tasker wiki on his website (google tasker or go there from playstore entry). It includes lots of examples both of profiles you can just download and use, and also step throughs of how to set up specific tasks yourself.
I use it to turn off keyguard (pin lock) when I'm at home or in the car, adjust volumes in those places, and silence everything except alarms at night, also to autorotate to landscape when in the smartdock.
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Check out the tasker wiki on his website (google tasker or go there from playstore entry). It includes lots of examples both of profiles you can just download and use, and also step throughs of how to set up specific tasks yourself.
I use it to turn off keyguard (pin lock) when I'm at home or in the car, adjust volumes in those places, and silence everything except alarms at night, also to autorotate to landscape when in the smartdock.
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I will, thanks
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You can do the same things as this with "automate it" and it's free. Just throwing it out there
My favorite thing I ever did with Tasker was on a previous phone, I had a fully functional bluetooth timeout system working, where if the bluetooth was switched on, it would automatically switch off after 5 minutes if nothing connected. If something did connect, it would wait 5 minutes after disconnecting before it turned off. It would also switch to always on in certain situations (such as being in a car dock). It required multiple profiles, multiples tasks, and multiple variables to pull it off, but it was a thing of beauty. I don't use that anymore, because I don't need it on this phone...the battery doesn't even seem to be affected by bluetooth.
Currently, I use it to do simple stuff, like launch my desk clock app and silence notifications when plugged in and on the left side between 9PM and 9AM, silence notifications when in the car dock, and kill audio apps when removed from the car dock. I think it's a lot easier to learn when you already understand a lot of the fundamentals of coding, because a lot of it translates, though it requires a different manner of creativity and mental acrobatics to do certain things since there's no direct "OR" clause that would be really handy in a profile definition.
Hi everybody,
I'm now exploring my new Z2, and being obsessed about battery life I am curious about the stamina mode.
So I get that on the very basic level, it simply shuts down WiFi and mobile data when the screen is off and turns them back on when the phone is active.
But what happens when I add apps to the "whitelist"? If I add gmail to get email notifications - would it keep data running? would it turn it on periodically (e.g. like Juice Defender)?
the data is running but is controlled like firewall.
lets say if u add whatsapp in the whitelist, only whatsapp can get the traffic while other apps are blocked when screen off.
This might help you - http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/04/03/how-sonys-battery-stamina-mode-works/
I was wondering the same thing. The link someguyfromhell posted doesn't really say how it works. I'm interested in this because it seems to have a great impact on battery life and notifications arrive instantly and I'd like to use something like this with a 3rd party ROM. Is there any app out there that does exactly that?
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hillbicks said:
I was wondering the same thing. The link someguyfromhell posted doesn't really say how it works. I'm interested in this because it seems to have a great impact on battery life and notifications arrive instantly and I'd like to use something like this with a 3rd party ROM. Is there any app out there that does exactly that?
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Greenify does the exact same thing at a shorter extent I believe.