So I've been reading some threads about the app JuiceDefender, and even tested it out for a few days, but before I really start working with it I was hoping to get some opinions. It appears that the major draw of the app is that it limits your data updates in order to save idle battery life. However, I generally keep an instant messaging program running (imo when it works, trillian and skype otherwise) at essentially all times. From a few tests with the app, it appears that when it turns off data updates while on idle, it also disconnects me from my chat apps, causing me to miss messages and such. Is this really just not the app for me, or is there something I'm missing? Does it really even help at all, or is it just another battery life placebo?
Thanks for any help!
The juicedefender version that is .99 allows you to set exceptions for apps when the screen is off. Unfortunately, doing so for an app like IM pretty much defeats the pupose of juicedefender as you're wifi or mobile data will need pretty consistent access
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BBock9 said:
The juicedefender version that is .99 allows you to set exceptions for apps when the screen is off. Unfortunately, doing so for an app like IM pretty much defeats the pupose of juicedefender as you're wifi or mobile data will need pretty consistent access
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Agreed. Would not suggest using it at that point
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Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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You will find it here.
Thank you!!!!
lightyear420 said:
Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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Are you AT&T? If so, I had the same problem, especially with long text and MMS sending pics. I believe it was a problem within the APN. I don't know exactly how, but now I have 2 APN'S and the problem seems to be solved. I have MEdia Net and MEdia Net MMS, which is the AT&T brand name for their browser/network. I have tested the every APN setting posted in the forums, and they are the only ones that deliver large pics and 4page texts consistantly. If you need the settings, post here.
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yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
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yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
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I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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Hmmmm.....interesting read!! I'll give uninstalling ATK, startup manager, etc. a shot for a few days and see what happens. Thanks for the info!!
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
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My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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Even if you see a long list of apps, sometimes it is not the whole app that is running but only part of it for a while to do a certain task. Android then terminates them when they are idle for a period of time. I also have my brightness set on the lowest setting and only switch on WiFi/3G when I use them. You can download toggle widgets (e.g. APNdroid) from the market to make it easier to toggle these settings.
Also, if you have weak 3G coverage in your area, then that also drains the battery as the phone is constantly searching for the 3G network. Therefore, sometimes I switch my network mode to only 2G (or GSM only) networks rather than GSM/WCDMA preferred.
In conclusion, there are many factors that contribute to how fast your battery is drained, and apps running in the background is certainly one of them but, definitely not the only reason.
Let us know how it goes
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Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Back in topic.. did you resolve your messaging problems? If so, what was your solution? I'm interested in hearing if you tried pics or long messages yet too?
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My solution is handcent It's much better for me than the stock app. The stock app is working, though. I tried mms & sms....both are fine. I found the custom vibrate feature in handcent and now I can actually feel it vibrate when I get a text because it stays on for a full second!!!
Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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I believe you have a plan with At&t, correct me if I am wrong. One of the APN is for the data and the second one is for MMS.
Nope....I just reinstalled the app directly over the old install
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I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs?
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I have 2 apn's with AT&T as well....media net and media net mms
My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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Unfortunately facebook for android sucks, try setting it to check for updates less often, and sign out of chat if not using it.
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My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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If you're talkin bout the official facebook app then you are right. Also had this experience. Was checking thru system panel then i noticed the fb app was consuming cpu usage while running in background with sync off.. That fb app is getting glitchy sometimes. I uninstalled it!
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I had similar issues with the official Facebook app. I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) which is a free download from Market. You can set it to auto-kill apps at regular intervals (in my case, every hour). So the FB app gets killed every now and then, saving whatever battery can be saved..
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I had similar issues with the official Facebook app. I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) which is a free download from Market. You can set it to auto-kill apps at regular intervals (in my case, every hour). So the FB app gets killed every now and then, saving whatever battery can be saved..
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ATK'ers cause more problems than they help, as every time something is killed, the phone wakes up, kills something, then the app has to be reloaded.
Its highly recommended not to use them.
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ATK'ers cause more problems than they help, as every time something is killed, the phone wakes up, kills something, then the app has to be reloaded.
Its highly recommended not to use them.
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Hmmm... You're probably right. It was near impossible to make do without it on the lower-memory SGS1 though...
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Hmmm... You're probably right. It was near impossible to make do without it on the lower-memory SGS1 though...
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Maybe pre gingerbread, but as far as I know 2.3.x has always had a LMK (low memory killer) built in, so it does the same thing as a ATK, but its "smart" and doesn't hurt the battery like a ATK does.
I kno this is a super bump but this is the closest thread i could find to my issue...
After facebook recently updating the app i noticed, in the stock application manager on my LG P930, it using about 58% and even spikeing up to 88% CPU usage and using over 40.0 MBs of my RAM i have to stop the app in the application manager for it to stop....
Heres a pic for proof i guess:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1035642&stc=1&d=1335922294
So my actual question is can this harm the hardware to my phone if i dont stop it running after every use? And is there maybe a fix to get it to stop using so much?
i got fb on both sgs1 an sgs2 yes many say it consumes power but y dosnt mine do tht its loggd in 24hrs........cheerz
Facebook for Android sucks really.. I noticed this whole CPU trashing started when they upgraded Facebook some time ago to what is the "current" skin for the past 4-5 months or so. Suddenly, everytime I launch Facebook, when I go back to my home screen it stays running...
Obviously I have the notifications and synch refresh set to never..
Watchdog complains about it...
Connecting via ADB and issuing top shows the katana process eating 20% cpu or more..
Using a terminal app on the phone and issuing top reveals the same thing...
So I just use Watchdog to kill Facebook everytime I'm done using it, or I use the sluggish browser version that doesn't suffer from this cause it runs in the browser
Upgrade after upgrade they can't seem to fix this and it's symptomatic.. not random! At least not on my Nexus S running the latest ICS 4.0.4.
Would be interesting if via ADB we could check the threads of the facebook process and see what's running...
What would be even better would be some sort of channel to complain about this to Facebook.. I mentioned this in my review on the Play store but I don't think anyone cares about what's written there (at least none from the Facebook development team..)
Hello all,
Anybody can recommend a good reliable data counter for the droid razr?
With the built-in razr data manager my usage can go up, down, shrink, funny stuff. one morning it can be 17Mb, download some wallpapers, 30mb, and suddenly goes back to 21Mb in the evening...
...while my ISP data counter just keep climbing steadily.
And thanks for flashing my phone with a retail version, one of the useful bloatware from vendor (my rogers account) doesn't work anymore
thanks all!
I use 3g watchdog pro
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I use 3g watchdog pro
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Same here. Currently trying out Onavo which is free. It has a simpler UI, provides ample information about your usage and is more friendly to regular users.
3G Watchdog Pro on the other hand gives more statistics with graphs and all. But it looks a bit messy comparatively.
thanks guys!
i installed 3G watchdog and onavo.
i like the watchdog becoz i can manually set what i used so far incase i install the app mid-month-cycle, OR if my Rogers stat is different. the widget is also nice, and some says it reads the android data, so its "as accurate as any app can be", but its a really basic basic app otherwise. simple, nice, and basic.
onavo is nice and new, and i really love how it tracks each data and u can set how much ur paying for it, or for overcharge. it can also block each app from using data (wifi only) which is great. but its a fairly new app so i can't say about the accuracy, and there's no way to manually update the quota. sad...
i think im gonna keep both for now.
I've been using an app called LBE Privacy Guard. It is supposed to be an app that is basically a permissions firewall. However it does include a Data Usage bar in the notification tab and features auto reset/tracking by days and separate wifi/3g data usage. Worth a shot if you're still interested.
Cant somebody port the verizon data usage widget from the stock rom???
I really liked it on stock...worked perfect and nothing to setup and accurate
.plz somebody
Ps i did try those other two apps didnt like them at all
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im on rogers, i downloaded their app and thats what i use
I rooted my gfs razr last night...installed titatuim backup....copied a bunch of the verizon stuff
Ended up isolating where the wiget comes from
Its the "my verizon" app
Installed it just the app no data
Widget works great!!!
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I rooted my gfs razr last night...installed titatuim backup....copied a bunch of the verizon stuff
Ended up isolating where the wiget comes from
Its the "my verizon" app
Installed it just the app no data
Widget works great!!!
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Could you post the apk?
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3g watchdog is the best
mobile counter IMO is the best and free
ok, coming back after a good few weeks:
Onavo is best. it tracks it accurately and faster than Rogers' own tracker.
and a billion times better than the crappy data manager.
it tells (and warns) u which apps is hogging, and can set restriction on use wi-fi only or not.
better than the watchdog for my use.
the nollys
you check Mobile counter? its very simple but good aplications,
Like on say, miui roms and other actually smart phones? something to make this bloody phone only actually use data when needed- if i get or send mms, only if i open browser, etc
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Like on say, miui roms and other actually smart phones? something to make this bloody phone only actually use data when needed- if i get or send mms, only if i open browser, etc
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Turn off sync and background data in settings
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Like on say, miui roms and other actually smart phones? something to make this bloody phone only actually use data when needed- if i get or send mms, only if i open browser, etc
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I'm not familiar with MIUI but it's possible to create profiles with Tasker. It's capable of pretty much anything (activate data when a specific app opens, for example). Think I remember seeing someone do some stuff with MMS too. It can definitely be done.
Your phone IS only pulling data when needed. You and your phone just disagree on what constitutes a "need".
Are you on ICS or GB? Figure out what app is pulling the data. ICS data usage will show you, and let you disable the usage by app. GB will let you turn off background data in a blanket setting. On GB you can get an app like My Data Manager to see what app is using the data.
Juice Defender has settings too to disable data when your screen is off and such. But it's commonly believed to actually decrease battery life, especially the task killing aspect of it.
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Im on GB, ICS pissed me off to no end at the moment. Guess ill look into tasker.
Android devices are the only ones I've noticed to be unable to just idle properly on their own, but right now im in magical land of Japan where using Nokia is too problematic.
Hmm, good enough unless tasker will eat more battery than active data connection
Hi everybody,
I'm now exploring my new Z2, and being obsessed about battery life I am curious about the stamina mode.
So I get that on the very basic level, it simply shuts down WiFi and mobile data when the screen is off and turns them back on when the phone is active.
But what happens when I add apps to the "whitelist"? If I add gmail to get email notifications - would it keep data running? would it turn it on periodically (e.g. like Juice Defender)?
the data is running but is controlled like firewall.
lets say if u add whatsapp in the whitelist, only whatsapp can get the traffic while other apps are blocked when screen off.
This might help you - http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/04/03/how-sonys-battery-stamina-mode-works/
I was wondering the same thing. The link someguyfromhell posted doesn't really say how it works. I'm interested in this because it seems to have a great impact on battery life and notifications arrive instantly and I'd like to use something like this with a 3rd party ROM. Is there any app out there that does exactly that?
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I was wondering the same thing. The link someguyfromhell posted doesn't really say how it works. I'm interested in this because it seems to have a great impact on battery life and notifications arrive instantly and I'd like to use something like this with a 3rd party ROM. Is there any app out there that does exactly that?
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Greenify does the exact same thing at a shorter extent I believe.