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Hello Guys,
i have a problem, i had already replaced the LCD-Screen because the old was broken.
But now i got a new problem... if i place the new screen on the digitalizer i got a glimer on the display. I don't now why. But i already discoverd that this effect only appearce if the LCD-Screen is on the digitalizer..
So what is the exactly reason and how can i fix this problem? Is the digitalizer cracked?
Here are 3 Pictures, one is without the digitalizer.
Thank You,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
did you try to fit digitizer in or just holding it upon the lcd?
what would happen if you rotate it 90degs?
are you sure there is no protection foil still on the lcd???
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behind and on the lcd, there are reflection foils, bluring, light redirecting, polarizating. maybe 6 of them together. some are glued on screen, some are just below it. obviously there is something in digitizer as well, and those in your replaced lcd are not compatible with digitizer.
can you ask for return of the lcd and get another one?
the other option would be getting replacement of digitizer from the same shop.
or third, this effect doesn't look like it's from polarizator. polarizator is glued but those others are not. if it will not change if you rotate it, like with polarizator effect, means it's not polarizator and you can replace those other foils from below lcd. putting ones from your broken screen to the new one. It's quite difficult, but could be done.
okay.. if i rotate the digitalizer the effect changes..
in nearly 90 degree the effect is better than normal.. but not really good..
so is there a magnetism issue??
or whats the reason for this effect?..
could the digitalizer broken? but it's still working..
the display brokes because of violence..
could the digitalizer although broken??
no the digitizer is fine.
the replacement you get was not oem. means was not from the same factory.
someone working in there made some pictures or paintings of the lcd and showed it to his friend who owns a similar factory. He then made this lcd and sold it to you. As he didn't know what sort of, let's call them optic foils, have been used in the original he just put the ones he new were working fine with another mobile. But he didn't expect, as i am surprised too, that the digitizer have an optic foil inside as well. But before realizing, I suppose they already gave bonus to all those little workers and started overnight secret manufacture.
Before realizing the mistake, they already produced a lot of it. To cut the loses, I suppose they created a set of digitizers with a similar practice, which they would sell together with lcd and would be working good.
Now someone, your seller probably thought selling separate lcd would be ok too, so he did. That's why i was suggesting you have right to have an replacement, refund or an new digitizer from him at a fair price.
Of course don't take me too serious on the picture/painting matter, but otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if I came to true quite close
anyway those fake parts are a good quality and in most cases you wouldn't say difference. But shyt happens
as the rotating didn't solve issue completely problem would be those foils below lcd. if your seller would not be cooperative, you've got nothing to loose. open both lcds and change foils over.
Or get a fake digitizer which you would be sure is compatible with that screen.
If not successful, get a combo, lcd + digitizer.
hmm okay..
in the description is written original htc ware..
i had send my seller that problem and now we will see..
thanks a lot for those information..
I would be very interested in knowing how you got the digitizer and screen seperated? Arent they glued and most likely going to break easy?
did you mean the digitalizer and the lcd display or the front screen?
I opened one up once and the LCD appeared to be glued on to the back of the front screen (which I assume is the digitizer?)
ah okay.. eeerm.. i don't know that the lcd was glued on the digitalizer.. because my display has broken and the liquid was out of the display.. so the LCD was easy to take off..
But I've read some guys has warmed it firstly with a hair dryer and then they could take the display off..
hx4700 Killer said:
I opened one up once and the LCD appeared to be glued on to the back of the front screen (which I assume is the digitizer?)
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you make me want to open ma rhodium.
if it's glued use a razor, or heat gun & blade like on apples.
then clean it and put new tape.
fake3 said:
ah okay.. eeerm.. i don't know that the lcd was glued on the digitalizer.. because my display has broken and the liquid was out of the display.. so the LCD was easy to take off..
But I've read some guys has warmed it firstly with a hair dryer and then they could take the display off..
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yeah dryer is maybe more safe just keep it below 100 cels. but it's not so vulnerable on bending too.
fake3: you sure you don't have protector foil on that lcd you bought?
i been playing around and get similar efect with a protection foil below polaroid.
there was still one protection foil on the front of the lcd.. but i already removed this foil..
but can you make a picture where the foil the polaroid is??
fake3 said:
there was still one protection foil on the front of the lcd.. but i already removed this foil..
but can you make a picture where the foil the polaroid is??
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I was playing with just a generic foils. not rhodium.
They can put filters inside plastic nowadays. and mix even more of them and it's all still tiny.
If there is one in digitizer, it would cut sun reflections of lcd and would make good sense.
Glass could be tented, too. digitizer is usually one glass and one foil.
even if you would find something glued on lcd or digitizer, it's not possible to take it of without damage. I talked to people producing foils and applying them they can't take that off too.
There have you be one polarizer glued on front of lcd, otherwise you would see nothing. And they usually gluing one on back. That make the light more efficient. redirect light in useful directions, but is not necessary, that is another possible difference in your case. And probable, because it spares $ and space. But it's glued - no help there if that's the case.
but then there are all those which are dispersing light evenly, those you can try to change. They all have to be used in a set working together they create
something called Brewster condition, if that's not met, you see something like you see on your screen. every active foil is a part of it, and obviously there is something in your digitizer.
Just had another though, there is a small chance that htc decided to change factory or producing process themselves. and both are original. But I wouldn't say that's very probable.
So guys,
i solved the problem..
I bought an new Digitalizer from the same seller and now it works fine..
Thanks a lot for the hint with the different manufractures..
Greetz
happy to hear that
no worries
guys.. i wan to ask something..
my LCD is glued to my digitizer. since both of it is broken.. i juz throw the whole part away.
but then, i diden really glue my new / replacement LCD to my digitizer.
so i assume they did have some space in between.
although my rhodium works well now, but my digitizer only able to sense fingernail o stylus only. anything a tad bigger than fingernail, it wont pick up. neither my thumb nor my finger.
is this possible due to the space in between the screen made it so? or my digitizer was some lousy quality stuff?
devalian said:
guys.. i wan to ask something..
my LCD is glued to my digitizer. since both of it is broken.. i juz throw the whole part away.
but then, i diden really glue my new / replacement LCD to my digitizer.
so i assume they did have some space in between.
although my rhodium works well now, but my digitizer only able to sense fingernail o stylus only. anything a tad bigger than fingernail, it wont pick up. neither my thumb nor my finger.
is this possible due to the space in between the screen made it so? or my digitizer was some lousy quality stuff?
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The digitizer is a seperate part from the screen. It sends X - Y coords to the device letting it know where you pressed and the device coorelates that to what was on the screen where you pressed.
What I am saying is that you could have the two pieces seperated the screen in one place on the digitizer in another and you should still be able to press on the digitizer and have the device react appropriately.
The digitizer works independantly from the screen.
haha.. so in short.. it means by digitizer is lousy rite?
I Have de same problem, I need a new lcd screen but i dont know where buy
please help me
and i need the service manual
Thks
My Touch HD, for 9 months now, perfectly works with the screen cracked.
Touch is ok, no problem.
No pixel missing (only the distortion from the cracks thats barely visible from straight look).
I'd like to change it my self but i dont know what to change....!!
touch screen: viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/HTC_Touch_HD__T8282_LCD_Screen_Display__Tools_New/220603358520/item
or
LCD: viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/Tctil_Pantalla_wGlass_Lens_Para_HTC_Touch_HD__T8282/150367803789/item
But it works now, if the risk changing it myself is high, from killing it, is it better to leave it as it is?
P.S. I had changed my screen 1 year ago and I payed 268€ (it cracked in 3 months after htc service)
Thnx in advance
it's probably the lcd since the touchscreen (digitizer) is made out of plastic. I don't think that'll crack very easily
OK i have a similar question...
But first of all can someone please clarify if the OP has the items the other way around? I mean is touchscreen (digitizer) the outer casing with the plastic screen and LCD the inside part?
OK now to my question. I dropped my phone and scratched the outer casing. Everything works fine but i would like to change the touchscreen just for aesthetics. Reading many many many tutorials i noticed most people faced problems trying to replace lcd screen only or touchscreen only and prefer to buy the bundle. My question is if i buy the touchscreen that the OP states here : viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/Tctil_Pantalla_wGlass_Lens_Para_HTC_Touch_HD__T828 2/150367803789/item isn't just a matter of connecting the digitizer to my existing LCD? Are they connected with a conducting adhesive tape as i was reading on the tutorials? Or this is not the part connected with the adhesive?
Thanks a lot for the help and sorry for hijacking the thread.
I've changed only the digitizer in my Blackstone but its really difficult job and took me about half day to finish. The digitizer its glued to LCD and you need to be very careful to separate them. I've done it only because i bought this HD very cheap for parts but next time will probably buy the whole part (LCD+Digitizer).
don't change digitizer
my touch-panel was not working correctly,i bought a digitizer to change it self but the lcd is broken ... impossible don't try.
i recommend you to buy complete set lcd+digitizer , its need only one click on motherboard
be carefully
metbod said:
my touch-panel was not working correctly,i bought a digitizer to change it self but the lcd is broken ... impossible don't try.
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It's possible, I did it yesterday
hi
I have some scratchs on my screen and I am looking for a replacement digtizer.
I found several on ebay,
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=xp...+screen&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
Have anyone replaced the digitizer or know if this are original?
Thanks!
Did you remove the factory screen protector for some reason and not replace it? Or did your phone not come with a factory screen protector?
ClintonH said:
Did you remove the factory screen protector for some reason and not replace it? Or did your phone not come with a factory screen protector?
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Hi
I removed the factory screen protector. when I got a couple of scratches I applied a new protector.
But the few scratches I have are ittitating me!!!!
Hi, I recently changed my digitizer. Put on a black one on my white phone. They are all real, I have not seen any fakes around. I also bought mine off of ebay.
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I wish one of these ebay listings gave a part number or model number for the digitizer... for obvious reasons.
trojjanhorse said:
Hi, I recently changed my digitizer. Put on a black one on my white phone. They are all real, I have not seen any fakes around. I also bought mine off of ebay.
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Is this digitizer is the same part i need to change when my screen gets cracked ?
The story is my phone fell down and the screen got cracked and kinda ink appeared around the line of crack..
I was really wandering which part to change since the touch was working fine..
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
mezo9090 said:
Is this digitizer is the same part i need to change when my screen gets cracked ?
The story is my phone fell down and the screen got cracked and kinda ink appeared around the line of crack..
I was really wandering which part to change since the touch was working fine..
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
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Hey Mezo,
The digitizer is factory glued with the top glass and is considered one piece since you can't separate the two. The LCD is separate from the digitizer. If your LCD is cracked, then your display will be distorted with lines across the screen. If your top glass is cracked, then your digitizer will still work since the digitizer is not as fragile as the top glass. So the question is, is the top glass cracked? Is the LCD display cracked as well? I know your digitizer will still be functioning but you might want to consider buying a new one as for the cracks may be unappealing and annoying.
I simply broke the top glass and I did not like the crack spanning across my screen so I got myself a new one.
If your LCD is damaged then you need to buy a new LCD which is not cheap... (over $100).
@trojjanhorse
the top layer which i touch is functional, so that means i have broken the LCD ?
i appreciate if you have a look on them i attached some pic, i hope they are clear enough since i took them with 3mp cam
thanks for the help in advance, i don't know much about mobile displays
mezo9090 said:
@trojjanhorse
the top layer which i touch is functional, so that means i have broken the LCD ?
i appreciate if you have a look on them i attached some pic, i hope they are clear enough since i took them with 3mp cam
thanks for the help in advance, i don't know much about mobile displays
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Most likely you have broken the LCD. When dark pixels appear like that, it usually means that you've directly struck the LCD itself and damaged that area.
It was a thin line at first then some Ink started to flow and became bigger the next day.
So its the LCD?
should I fix it at the service center or i can replace it myself?
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
You can, in theory, fix it yourself but it'll be a biatch of a job. Use the X10 undressing post to find out how to actually take it to bits...
Then put the new LCD in.
only issue is finding somewhere that sells them... I don't know if they're a generic 854x480 lcd or what so...
To change LCD is very simple, but to change the digitizer is suicide. You will need to get a new LCD. I would buy one off of ebay and install it myself. I've been fixing phones for 2 years now so I had my share of experience but it may be difficult for you. The black liquid is due to the fact that LCD stands for "Liquid" Crystal Display
Good luck.
my baclstone started acting funny with screen alignment getting messed up a we times by itself and than it completely stopped responding...
even the touch sensitive hardware buttons donot work no more...i have hard reset many times did task 29. i have changed different roms and went back to stock rom but screen doesnt respond at all... not even the backlight turn on to full brightness when screen is tapped?
anyone have any idea whats broken lcd or digitizer or both... or maybe something else.... and there is no official htc repair shop so i probably gotta fix it on my own
Probably digitizer is broken, if you see no cracks on lcd(blurry, black areas) then replace only digitizer.
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Probably digitizer is broken, if you see no cracks on lcd(blurry, black areas) then replace only digitizer.
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yes no cracks or blurry or black areas.... just tht screen is not responding to touch at all....
and i have to send it for repair and wait 2 weeks for it... thanks alot
I've got exactly the same problem, can you let me know how you get on please. Where can you buy a digitizer from, are they easy to fix?!?
You might want to know... if you are trying to just replace the digitizer you will most probably damage the LCD. I just opened mine today, the digitizer is glued to the LCD, it is hard (or impossible) to split them apart because the LCD is made of multiple layers that can break apart very easy (then is done).
Even if you can take them apart you need to glue the new digitizer to the LCD and then again the digitizer to the case, most probably your new digitizer will come with no adhesive
// I should have bought digitizer+LCD from the start.
I faced a similar situation last month. The screen calibration was a problem and later.. performed a hard reset. It actually starting working fine, but only for a couple of days. I was not able to allign the screen after reset. I enquired with the HTC US customer care.. they offered to repair the digittizer for about $335( very expensive!! i know). Later, on a trip to India, I got it fixed in bangalore for Rs.7089/-( digitizer+LCD cost) + Rs.411/-(service charges). The service advisor told me that even though the LCD is fine, they could not peel the digitizer as its a complex layered stuff. So, eventually had to replace both. Its back to normal now. Cheers!!
adrianTNT said:
You might want to know... if you are trying to just replace the digitizer you will most probably damage the LCD. I just opened mine today, the digitizer is glued to the LCD, it is hard (or impossible) to split them apart because the LCD is made of multiple layers that can break apart very easy (then is done).
Even if you can take them apart you need to glue the new digitizer to the LCD and then again the digitizer to the case, most probably your new digitizer will come with no adhesive
// I should have bought digitizer+LCD from the start.
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Actually, you need to glue just the digitizer to the case. I changed mine yesterday, just digitizer, and without damaging the LCD, so it is possible :] My old digitizer was cracked though, but I would say it was even harder because of that.
What I was going to say is, that fortunately I was able to reuse the double sided tape which glues digitizer to the housing. But after few such repairs it probably won't be possible. So buying the LCD + digitizer combo will be necessary eventually :/
When I replaced mine, after I seen how it is inside I decided to buy digitizer+LCD in one pack. It was 60 GBP on eBay and looks like the original.
The only problem was the glue, I used 3M double sided tape 2mm which needed to be cut in most areas but screen is not held properly this way. I might have to open it again, otherwise is all good, image quality and all.
Maybe best solution is to first try to take apart digitizer from lcd and THEN decide what to order, if it goes well get only digitizer, otherwise if you damaged the LCD get both of them sealed, getting both has another advantage, they are already sealed and there is no chance to have dust on your screen.
How did you use the tape?
Guys,
Today I dropped my DX (so much to say about Friday the 13th...)
You can see it in the attached picture. I just wanted to ask, will the following replacement work:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HTC-Desire-X...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20d2dca972
Thank you in advance!
Few weeks ago, I dropped my DX too, although damage was less. I read about digitizer replacement on HTC devices (in general) and I read it's not that easy as on Samsung devices. One guy tried to replace digitizer and he ended up with broken LCD panel. You can also buy whole module (LCD screen + digitizer) but it's like a roll of a dice - you can get good lcd and you can get bad lcd too. It's a risk. You can send it to local repair centre. I was told it would cost about 100-120€. From then, I knew, I have to live with that broken screen. lol
Found something different:
http://www.parts4repair.com/complete-screen-assembly-with-lgp-for-htc-desire-x-t328e/
Does anybody have experience with that shop? The price is ok, I would even order a new back cover there (because mine is a bit broken, too).
Hard to replace
I've tried to replace the touch screen (only the glass). In eBay it's about 25$ or something like that.
It hard, very hard to replace. I've ended with a broken LCD, because when try to separate the glass from LCD, LCD broke.
For me, it's better to replace the whole screen, not only the glass. I've seen it for 51$ in eBay, but worth it.
Video on how to replace (as you can see, you need a dryer, and big ball, because phone gets VERY hot, and you're the whole time thinking you're going to melt it
.you*tube*.co*m/*watch?v=hzRsLDahWVg
I won't try to replace only the glass, because my lcd is already broken. So I'll replace whole display unit (see link above for shopping details). Video on how to replace just the whole screen assembly can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzRsLDahWVg
Good news guys... My package arrived in Germany, so soon I will be able to replace my screen and get my DX working again...
I have a Problem
I didnt drop my xtouch but its touchscreen isnt working at the corners HELLLPPPP
WHAT TO DO?
Anybody knows a reliable source for a new lcd + digitizer module for desire X?
kisbatyu75 said:
Anybody knows a reliable source for a new lcd + digitizer module for desire X?
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Look a few posts above, my post #3 contains a link (that's the shop I used, lcd + digitizer are stil working well).
Firday the 13th... aaaand I dropped my Desire X smack on the corner, leaving me with a nice mosaic of cracks all over.
Thanks for the provided links. Guess I have some tinkering ahead of me....
help
after i replaced removed the digitizer and put it back it not sticking ...
i cleaned it using glass cleaner also ...!!
[email protected] said:
after i replaced removed the digitizer and put it back it not sticking ...
i cleaned it using glass cleaner also ...!!
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Did you remove the digitizer from the lcd? If yes, I actually don't know what to do; but I used a complete assembly of lcd and digitizer as replacement. It's sticking at the four corners, at least for me.
Its is sticking but slight gap near the ui keys .....
I think there is dust between the screen and the digitizer
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hi help
can i use this
http://www.ebay.in/itm/121348746163?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
or
http://www.ebay.in/itm/151326952917?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
to stick the glass back
which is better to buy
please some one tell fast