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new tip? Well I've searched the net alot but haven't found it anyway.
I discovered battery drain in idle state, but turning on airplane mode it got much better. Leading me to think it was the phone radio eating batt.
I've tested this on my x10 mini and x10 mini pro running minicm7 2.2.1. Guessing it works for other roms and phones as well.
The battery drain in idle state dropped from 1,5%/h to 0,5%/h giving you MANY ekstra hours before charging.
now the super simple tip:
1. check your current service provider in the notification menu.
2. settings -> wireless & networks -> mobile networks -> network operators (wait while phone searches)
3. select the same service provider as you saw in (1).
Just guessing whats going on:
Now the phone is locked to that network and do not use battery to search for the best network.
note: this may cause the phone to loose the signal if you travel to another network. If so, switch back to "select automatically".
Well this seems to work for me here in norway (OneCall).
Let me know it it works for you.
I recommend these app in general to analyse battery drain.
BetterBatteryStats
Gsam battery monitor
My Battery Drain Analyser
I'd also suggest getting v6supercharger or another process-killer to further extend battery life.
Android manages processes and memory good enough. The usage of a task killer is usually not necessary. Perhaps you are using badly programmed apps, find them and deinstall them. That's the better way.
Thanks for the tips.
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Thanks for the tip, never heard of it.
Seems like its not a process killer, more like a better memory management. So it may in theory save you some cpu and battery. Maybe I'll try it later.
But this thread is about the phone radio. On my phone it uses way more battery than normal.
now I've tried "stMurray Cell Connectivity tracker" and it seems that my phone switches cell tower every minute. Think I have equal signal strength from both towers.
Any tips to slow down the switching rate?
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Android manages processes and memory good enough. The usage of a task killer is usually not necessary. Perhaps you are using badly programmed apps, find them and deinstall them. That's the better way.
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U're right. Auto-killing tasks every x min is a bad idea.
Androids memory and process management is good, but it can always be better. (V6 supercharger?)
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
Mate, you know that there is an entire thread dedicated to better battery stats......... Search will probably lead to a resolution.
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I am searching for solution for like weeks including thread mentioned. Still no result..
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woyorus said:
Hi everyone,
I have a problem with my GT-i9300 with stock JB & stock kernel (I9300XXDLJ4), the battery drains too much fast while screen is off, even after all apps closed or cold start (if screen is on, battery drains abnormally fast as well). BBS shows lots of partial wakelocks named NetworkLocationLocator, and of course I have googled this and found an issue in AOSP issues list, but no solution. (sorry can't post links, issue #37348)
The only thing I can do to prevent early battery death is to go to Settings->Location and uncheck 'use wireless networks', but this is really bad for overall user experience. Things like latitude or google now are disabled.
I am attaching lots of screenshots that might help to understand my problem + BBS report and logs.
Thanks everyone in advance...
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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I have exatly the same issue. Search and search and nothing. already troubleshoot using BBS, the only way to do it is disable it or use an app that disconnects 3g and wifi and connects it every x minutes - like easy battery saver. the only thing I am amazed is that there are not so many reports about it...
will keep you posted since I keep troubleshooting.
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It seems like I found the problem, at least on my phone. I have disabled SNS (Social Network Service or so, a weird app shipped with the stock rom by samsung) and also uninstalled the facebook app, looks like I don't have the issue since that. Battery has drained much less overnight today, and I don't see any location-related wakelocks in BBS. I'll try to find what exactly causes the problem
Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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Can you please be more specific about this service? Where did you disable and what was the name of the app?
Thanks
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It's under Settings->Application Manager. You have to swipe twice to the right in order to open 'All applications' tab there, and find SNS app, and then click 'Disable' button. The app's icon looks like Facebook logo (little f letter on blue background). Please let me know if it was helpful.. and don't forget to freeze/uninstall official facebook app
Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Thanks. Meanwhile I've remove and disable a lot of services, mainly from Samsung that I don't use and the battery drain is more stable when the device is on standby.
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Well, have you noticed anything other than the services and battery drain? Maybe an in-/decrease of performance, or something else?
If you look on the Android *stock* battery stats app, you'll see, as soon as the screen is off, for the night, the data connection goes crazy with different signals and network modes. Have you tried putting the phone somewhere else at night, maybe just to see, whether that makes a difference? I'm guessing, you get fluctuations in your network, at night. That has happened to me, quite a lot, as I had my GS II (Telekom DE fixed it, though).
If that isn't the problem, then you've probably installed other third-party apps, that are causing this battery drainage, maybe they're collecting your user data, or something.
Anyways, hope I could help!
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
Yes I've been watching it. In resume:
1) if you activate use networks for location the battery drains even if none app request it.
2) there are a bunch of services mainly from Samsung that drains the battery just because they do.
3) if I leave my Wi-Fi off for the night it will drain 5% against 20% if I leave it on
Probably this one is because of weak Wi-Fi at my bedroom. Yes I've selected only when connected but even so the phone doesn't respect it.
4) if you have selected backup this phone to Google it will drain the battery also
5) I can have really good battery life if I disconnect Wi-Fi and data and connect it once in a while
But my point is why should I need to manage all this stuff? Why do I need to spend more time troubleshooting something instead of having fun with a new phone?
I've used juice defender, battery stats and a bunch of other applications just to conclude that android and Samsung are a piece of **** regarding power management.
And yes, Google now is disconnected and also history location.
If I wipe my phone and do not install anything, battery life is regular, as soon I start to install apps it will start to drain without apparently explication.
I have bought an extra battery and will live with it. I this it's just an os feature.
I've tried some custom rom's but all of them have problems, some because something doesn't work, others because developer didn't implement it, so I know if I want one good enough to suit my desires,I should cook it myself but I do not want to do it, so I came back always to official one.
And I do not have enough patience to undervolt or spend my nights tweaking something that should have work from out of the box.
This is my experience with my first android and I think this is why people always have complains about this system. I'm just going to live with it and accept the fact that this os have lots of defects that should not exist.
One thing is true: it is very frustrating from an user experience point off view.
Just my 2 cents
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I completely agree with you here. I don't know what exactly causes the problem, bugs with Samsung's software or bugs in Android itself - I don't care. The user experience is awful with this device.
I really considering getting an iPhone. iOS is built the way when regardless of amount apps installed and their quality the battery life is stable and decent. No app, maybe except VoIP, could drain battery if it's in the background or the screen is off. For me personally, all this Android's 'customizability' causes only decline in UX and battery life.
Ridiculously, there are lots of poor quality apps for Android that behave extremely bad, for example The Tribez game. It's a game, and I am expecting battery drain only when I'm playing (isn't it logical?), however, I do get drain caused by this app even if it's closed! That's ridiculous. I just bought an iPad version and I have absolutely no problems with it, moreover, it is running much faster on my dualcore tablet than on my cutting edge quad core phone. Of course, this is just an awful job porting the game from iOS to Android, but I'm sure, mostly this is problem with Android itself. This is the _mobile_ OS, and it must not allow any app behave like this (like iOS does, it kills badass processes almost instantaneously). I'm sorry Android fanboys, but your lovely OS is a poor quality product.
I've already said too much, but again, I don't want to think if my WiFi or anything else is turned off, I want to use my handset. I think you get my point.
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Hi all,
I love my DNA (stock) and I haven't had any issues until the past couple of weeks, when I noticed that my phone started draining battery much more quickly than normal without me changing my usage habits. I'm consistently draining about 10% per hour even when I just pull it out of my pocket every hour or so to check notifications. I've also noticed sluggish behavior as well (lag when unlocking especially).
I got the Wakelock Detector app to see what was causing me issues, but I'm pretty new to it--I'm not sure what is normal and what is a problem. I've disabled a lot of my location services as a result, but that doesn't seem to have solved anything as of yet, which is why I'm posting.
I'm attaching a few screenshots from WLD so you can see what I've got going on. Android System looks awful, but I don't want to disable backup (I like having my app choices and such saved, and don't want to lose them). What should I really chase after to get this draining issue solved?
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There's a known issue with Google services causing drain, its been mentioned in a few places around here, it started with an update a little while ago. You can try removing updates if it let's you, may help, or just have to wait out an update to correct it. I think for now disabling all of the location stuff helps.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
If you can I would change kernels. crpalmer's kernel fixed my wakelock issues. I had a maps issue related to location services and disabled maps in Titanium Backup and then later I had wakelock issues that I couldn't pin down but switching to crpalmer's kernel fixed it for me.
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you could also try the newly released Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru.
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This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
I have a theory, which may be wrong, is that apps set up all sorts of events that the system tracks and acts upon. As a result, when tracking CPU usage and wake locks, it is often hard to find the culprit behind most of the activity because it registers under system processes rather than directly from the offending app.
So the solution may be to do a factory reset (which is painful) or just freeze some apps to see what difference it makes.
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petrivka said:
This app looks great! I'll certainly give it a try. I used JuiceDefender on my old Droid Charge and it helped (back in 2011), but I don't think the app is maintained any more.
I'll let you know if it helps.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
Having same issue and it is definitely Google. I use Google Maps a lot so disabling location renders it useless. Bad deal since its killing my battery.
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That itself causes wakelocks and is 90% placebo effect.
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If so, this is the best placebo effect ever. Once BatteryGuru trained for 2 days, my battery life has improved dramatically, back to where it used to be (if not better). My phone now can enter deep sleep for longer than 2 minutes over a 10 hour period.
I did see that BatteryGuru was the cause of additional wakelocks, but my real cause for concern was the lack of deep sleep.
I can now make it through a 16 hour day without getting range anxiety.
123421342 said:
That itself causes wakelocks
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Ok... Just about every app causes wakelokcs, big whoop.
123421342 said:
90% placebo effect.
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Yep, getting an extra couple of hours of battery life due to that app is definitely placebo.
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It isn't mentioned in this thread and is a really important recent development. The new play store solves the excessive drains that google play services was having. I've seen mentioned in a few posts above some issues that will be solved by installing the new play store.
The problem I had with battery guru was that it required turning location services on. Since I normally don't run location services unless I need them, having to enable them for the battery savings app to run kind of negates the purpose of the app. It would be nice to hack it up and delete the business that requires location services.
For the poster above who wasn't getting deep sleep, I would try removing battery guru, solve the deep sleep problem and then reinstall battery guru, it might make your battery life even mo betta.
Intro
Hello I'm a very old lurker in this forum yet a new member and this is my first post so please don't kill me if I failed to follow the rules or if my English sucks. I will try to organize this thread and make it clear and easy to understand and read, while providing as much information as I can.
The Problem
So my i9100 has been having extreme battery drain lately, about 2% per 3 minutes. I refrain from using it throughout the day to help my battery hold until night. When I do so, it is usually about 40% by the time I go to sleep with having BARELY used the phone. Probably just now and then to answer a Whatsapp message or to check the time. I've long ago uninstalled all games since I can't even think of playing games with this horrible battery status.
How it started
The last thing I can remember before starting to have this problem is about a year(?) ago when I was on Jellybam. I had good battery, and then a build with an excellent battery came out and it worked perfectly. I can't remember which version it was, but a little after that, I updated Jellybam and noticed SUPER battery drain. I waited a little for the next updates but it wasn't fixed, so I changed a ROM. I noticed that it wasn't helping. So I tried the following for a couple of months now:
Attempts To Solve The Problem
I have tried the following:
Using lowest screen brightness
Disabling obvious stuff like GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G
Closing or even NOT installing any known battery consuming apps
NOT using task killers
USING task killers
Underclocking
Removing widgets. Using least icons possible on launcher
Using many different launchers
Changing ROMs, kernels and both
Reverting back to stock
Buying a new battery (extended and not original)
Trying a new original battery from a friend who has i9100
Flashing modems and RILs, including GetRIL. In fact, I've had better battery with worse signal (but not always). I think it was with XXLPH or XXLPW.
Using battery savers like JuiceDefender which basically do everything I've already tried. What's a smartphone without internet
Using BetterBatteryStats and Gsam Battery Monitor Pro. Did not notice anything special (but I am not pro enough to understand everything on BBS, though I googled some of the things and haven't noticed something unusual). Maybe some pro can help me with it.
Assumptions / Notes
A couple of versions ago, I have used Omega ROM version 4.2.1 which suddenly fixed(?!) my battery. I can't remember which build it was, but the new one doesn't fix the battery drain. I assume it could be due to the radio update to XXMS2
I have a feeling that the drain is related to the modem (aka baseband), because I've had some more battery-friendly modems and some less
I have tried many modems that are supposed to work perfectly (and really gave me good connection speed and signal), but they did not fix the battery drain. Even on stock rom
My provider is Golan Telecom, which is supposed to work good with Cellcom modems, but it didn't. At least not battery-wise
Last resort can be taking it to a lab, but it's hard for me to stay without my phone, and I think people here are more skilled than the noobs in the lab.
Can the problem be hardware-related but not battery-related? May it be caused by the huge amount of times I've flashed ROMs and kernels?
Had my phone for around 2 years
Never bricked my phone
Sorry for being a burden to this forum with this first post of mine, but thanks a TON of anyone who can shed some light on this problem for me!
*I have attached one log of BBS
2h screen on , 3h wifi running and 50% how you did that?
I don't think that is a big battery usage
Which battery do you have?
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krazy1101 said:
2h screen on , 3h wifi running and 50% how you did that?
I don't think that is a big battery usage
Which battery do you have?
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Don't know, the battery is just dying so fast...
I got the original one that comes with the i9100
It doesn't look horrendous to me. Things to do though :
1. Grant BBS root rights. Need it to see network and alarms.
2. Did you play music at all? If not, you need to diagnose apps which are putting out sound. Viber is a common culprit.
3. Deleted_wakelocks comes when you turn wifi off. As it's so large, something is killing you when you're on wifi. My guess would be wlan_rx_wakelock. Basically you need to turn off wifi when you're not actively using it to avoid the drain from it. "Better wifi on/off" may be an app which helps you out there, it'll automate the turning of wifi on and off with your screen.
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It doesn't look horrendous to me. Things to do though :
1. Grant BBS root rights. Need it to see network and alarms.
2. Did you play music at all? If not, you need to diagnose apps which are putting out sound. Viber is a common culprit.
3. Deleted_wakelocks comes when you turn wifi off. As it's so large, something is killing you when you're on wifi. My guess would be wlan_rx_wakelock. Basically you need to turn off wifi when you're not actively using it to avoid the drain from it. "Better wifi on/off" may be an app which helps you out there, it'll automate the turning of wifi on and off with your screen.
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Thanks for your reply.
1. I have given it root rights, and will soon upload an updated log
2. I haven't played music at that time, not that I remember, but even with different players or not players at all, and without sound on keypress, the same drain is occuring. Also, I have long ago stopped using Viber as it eats the battery even more. My battery can't afford to have Viber :/
3. The drain seems to continue with or without wifi. I usually leave my wifi on when I'm at home, like now, but I have also tried, many times, to leave 3G without wifi and see if the battery improves. It didn't, unfortunately.
Did a fresh install on my X1m3 and was quite surprised to find I could watch the battery life trickle down before my eyes despite a 4500 mAh battery. AccuBattery reports 96% estimated health, estimated capacity 4327 mAh, which is within acceptable tolerances, and I've just done a 0% to 100% charge to train the charge algorithm.
Even with 60 Hz mode on the screen and brightness between 40% and 50%, I still think battery drain is higher than it should be on the shipped Android 11 update. I have about 100 apps total, most of which are passive / load-then-close things (small utilities etc). Minimal social media apps, the usual IM apps. Nothing extravagant. SOT seems to literally bleed battery life and I've already had a few device overheat / service stop thermal protection / camera app shutdown warnings in just two days of use.
Is the Snapdragon 888 really that bad? Reviews I read prior indicated that while not stellar, the SOT and battery life in standard suites of usage tests showed that the device seemed broadly on par with most current gen handsets, give or take an hour or two.
Battery life at the moment only seems marginally better than my three year old S9 with about 80% battery health and severe screen-on drain (per AccuBattery and a separate Samsung diagnosis); that is to say, slightly disappointing. Does anyone else's experiences reflect this? Anything you did with a boxfresh device that improves its battery life from what I've experienced, or is this partly the woes of early Android 11 adoption?
Find the apks running in the background and deal with each on a case by case basis.
With internet/phone connected the drain should less than 1%@hr when not in use.
My 10+ with less efficient ram gets that with AOD on, but it was a battery guzzling hog before it was optimized.
blackhawk said:
Find the apks running in the background and deal with each on a case by case basis.
With internet/phone connected the drain should less than 1%@hr when not in use.
My 10+ with less efficient ram gets that with AOD on, but it was a battery guzzling hog before it was optimized.
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Indeed, that's what I was expecting. I'm close to 1.7%/hr with screen off. When the screen's on, I can quite quickly decrement the battery just with it sat idling or with an empty Chrome window open.
I read elsewhere on xda that some Samsung users who upgraded to Android 11 were suffering from excessive drain in Chrome until they forcibly suspended it, is that a bug which was subsequently fixed or is there another reason behind that behaviour? Weird background sync issues?
I've gone through again tonight, disabling and force muting notifications from any apps I suspect to be hogs, and I've permission granted BBS through ADB to see if I can nail any more details. Unfortunately looks like BBS needs some work to be more compatible with Android 11 or the Xperia OS build.
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Indeed, that's what I was expecting. I'm close to 1.7%/hr with screen off. When the screen's on, I can quite quickly decrement the battery just with it sat idling or with an empty Chrome window open.
I read elsewhere on xda that some Samsung users who upgraded to Android 11 were suffering from excessive drain in Chrome until they forcibly suspended it, is that a bug which was subsequently fixed or is there another reason behind that behaviour? Weird background sync issues?
I've gone through again tonight, disabling and force muting notifications from any apps I suspect to be hogs, and I've permission granted BBS through ADB to see if I can nail any more details. Unfortunately looks like BBS needs some work to be more compatible with Android 11 or the Xperia OS build.
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Be careful with the edits... dependencies.
Names can be deceiving. Make your own list and know exactly what you're disabling.
I prefer to use a Package Disabler as it gives you on the fly control. PM if you want a link for that (some knucklehead FM here thought I was a salesperson for posting the link).
Likely suspects; any cloud apk, Google play Services, Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase. Playstore is another one that constantly pecks away at the battery.
Clear system cache, Google play Services, Transport and Framework data.
Try disabling Google play Services at night see what that does. It kills a lot of birds with one stone. Normally unless I need to use one of it's dependencies, I leave it disabled.
Go through -all- the Google settings. Disable Google, carrier, app and Sony feedback. Use Karma Firewall to lock down apps that don't need internet access. Set Gmail to manual sync.
Use the setting below to kill ads globally.
Sheesh, if I have to stop/delete/uninstall/disable all this stuff I might as well go back to a land line with an answering machine. I mean didn't he say he has 100 apps? What in the world are 100 apps used for? How long has he actually had the phone in his possession? Maybe a few days are needed to let the battery settle down? Instead of stopping all the so-called necessary Google stuff, why not stop/uninstall about 90 apps and see how it goes?
That is not normal. Battery life is solid for me and have minimal drain. Try resetting and see if phone is like that with no apps installed for a day
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Sheesh, if I have to stop/delete/uninstall/disable all this stuff I might as well go back to a land line with an answering machine. I mean didn't he say he has 100 apps? What in the world are 100 apps used for? How long has he actually had the phone in his possession? Maybe a few days are needed to let the battery settle down? Instead of stopping all the so-called necessary Google stuff, why not stop/uninstall about 90 apps and see how it goes?
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Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
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That is not normal. Battery life is solid for me and have minimal drain. Try resetting and see if phone is like that with no apps installed for a day
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Unless you have uninstallable malware or did a major firmware update a factory reset doesn't find the root cause. Meaning it's likely to reoccur.
It's preferable to find and correct the cause... and you learn this way.
Running in Safe mode will give a good idea if it's a 3rd party app causing the issue.
Occasionally poorly written apps will change hidden settings not normally accessible to the user. These will remain even if you uninstall it.
If you can't find (sometimes reloading the app and changing the setting there, then uninstalling it works) and correct, factory reset.
Meh, never load a bunch of unknown apps at once. Load, observe, then decide if it's doing what you want.
Make installable copies of all your trusted apps for future use and archive them. Sooner or latter you will need those...
blackhawk said:
Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
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Well, I understand that...this is not my first cell phone, and I usually do NOT have all the issues so many others have. And when I ask myself WHY??? I can only conclude that my 25 years as a Systems Engineer certainly helps, as well as the fact that I use my cell phone primarily as a communications device...you know as they were originally intended. But I also do a number of other things such as banking, internet access, mapping, etc., etc. However, I highly doubt that the problem with overheating, or rapid battery drain is attributable to Google's services (though once in awhile a rogue update can cause problems) but rather the problem inevitably lies with all the 3rd party apps that many load up on their phones. Another leading contributor is not setting the phone up properly out of the box. A recommendation that I always offer when setting up a new phone is this: NEVER allow Google to reinstall all your apps from a backup! NEVER!!!
Just bite the bullet and install them from scratch yourself! This way you are getting a CLEAN/Pristine start! Windows has allowed "upgrades" from one OS to another for years, and while you may have no real problems on your home PC, doing an upgrade on a server will get you fired! That is a MAJOR no-no. Why not, when it would save so much time and effort? Because you are dragging all the detritus left over form the previous version into a new build. Then, if and when problems arise, and they certainly will, you may NEVER be able to determine the cause! Now if this happens on your phone the worst thing is to do a factory reset - YUK - but it's not the end of the companies business, or your livelihood! Try to do this on a server that has already been deployed and I would rather get a root canal without Novocain while actively charged electrodes were anchored to my feet!
So then, NEVER allow Google to reinstall your apps from a backup. Start clean, learn what to turn off/adjust in settings, and load your apps one at a time. Give your battery a few days to settle in, that is to learn your habits of use and you should be OK. YMMV
jaseman said:
Well, I understand that...this is not my first cell phone, and I usually do NOT have all the issues so many others have. And when I ask myself WHY??? I can only conclude that my 25 years as a Systems Engineer certainly helps, as well as the fact that I use my cell phone primarily as a communications device...you know as they were originally intended. But I also do a number of other things such as banking, internet access, mapping, etc., etc. However, I highly doubt that the problem with overheating, or rapid battery drain is attributable to Google's services (though once in awhile a rogue update can cause problems) but rather the problem inevitably lies with all the 3rd party apps that many load up on their phones. Another leading contributor is not setting the phone up properly out of the box. A recommendation that I always offer when setting up a new phone is this: NEVER allow Google to reinstall all your apps from a backup! NEVER!!!
Just bite the bullet and install them from scratch yourself! This way you are getting a CLEAN/Pristine start! Windows has allowed "upgrades" from one OS to another for years, and while you may have no real problems on your home PC, doing an upgrade on a server will get you fired! That is a MAJOR no-no. Why not, when it would save so much time and effort? Because you are dragging all the detritus left over form the previous version into a new build. Then, if and when problems arise, and they certainly will, you may NEVER be able to determine the cause! Now if this happens on your phone the worst thing is to do a factory reset - YUK - but it's not the end of the companies business, or your livelihood! Try to do this on a server that has already been deployed and I would rather get a root canal without Novocain while actively charged electrodes were anchored to my feet!
So then, NEVER allow Google to reinstall your apps from a backup. Start clean, learn what to turn off/adjust in settings, and load your apps one at a time. Give your battery a few days to settle in, that is to learn your habits of use and you should be OK. YMMV
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I've played with my 10+ extensively*.
My issues and solutions may not apply to you.
No free rides; you get what you put into it.
WYSIWYG.
Enabling power management of any kind isn't needed, will likely cause erratic behavior degrade the speed and stability in extreme cases even cause boot loops. On my device global power management uses more battery even after a week or more... it does not adapt. It ain't Borg.
Can you really expect a random collection of apks, services and versions to be compatible out of the box? Absolutely not. The shotgun approach will not work well here. Sweat is always the price of freedom...
Developer options>standby apps
All buckets should show as active and their status unchangable, otherwise power management is active.
*factory resets should be only after major firmware updates, malware you can't eliminate, system damage by a app and boot loops *giggle*.
Otherwise track down the root cause and correct otherwise it will likely reoccur... then you'll be right back were you started. The equivalent of rinsing with the wash water.
blackhawk said:
Each user and Android device is unique.
So is its optimization.
This is no plain Jane iPhone.
You get what you put into Android.
That's why kids do so well with them... they play with it.
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jeez...."plain Jane iPhone"...that's right, there's not a single setting you can change on the iPhone