[Q] USB OTG + MHL -> HDMI? Possible? - T-Mobile HTC One (M7)

I'm on the fence between the HTC One and the Samsung GS4.
One feature I would like is the ability to output HDMI while using a USB port on the phone. The SGS4 has a media dock which charges, outputs HDMI and has 3 usb ports. Is there something similar to his available for the HTC One or a combo of cables/adapters that would effectively do the same thing? It looks like it can do either but I can't find any information confirming that it can do both simultaneously.
I have an Amaze 4G that I really like so I'm leaning towards the One right now and think I'll buy it if it can function like this.

antifan said:
I'm on the fence between the HTC One and the Samsung GS4.
One feature I would like is the ability to output HDMI while using a USB port on the phone. The SGS4 has a media dock which charges, outputs HDMI and has 3 usb ports. Is there something similar to his available for the HTC One or a combo of cables/adapters that would effectively do the same thing? It looks like it can do either but I can't find any information confirming that it can do both simultaneously.
I have an Amaze 4G that I really like so I'm leaning towards the One right now and think I'll buy it if it can function like this.
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I'm going to try my friends HTC ONE in my Samsung Multimedia dock this weekend, has anyone tried a similar dock?
Noellenchris

noellenchris said:
I'm going to try my friends HTC ONE in my Samsung Multimedia dock this weekend, has anyone tried a similar dock?
Noellenchris
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did it work?

speedfreak007 said:
did it work?
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Sorry I never got to try it. I forgot about this one .... I was coaching with him and the season is over now. Hopefully someone can have a chance to try.
Chris

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[Q] Micro-USB to HDMI?

This is a question, that is very important for me.
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You see, this SGSII phone thing'y is HOT as HELL. It is everything I want in a phone... BUT STOP...
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NO HDMI out?
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The original SGS has one and I really don't understand why they took that away from the SGSII.
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I heard that there is a way to get HDMI mirroring with a software and a micro-USB to HDMI cable! Is that purely a software question or must there be a hardware thing to?
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Please... respond to this, this is very important.
An MHL hardware connection is needed (look up MHL in wikipedia), fortunately in the official Samsung specs from the press release it says that it has MHL. A video from MWC from someone representing the MHL consortium also says the SGS2 will be the first device supporting MHL.
I'll feel better once I see someone demo it, but Samsung have officially announced MHL capability for the SGS2.
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NZtechfreak said:
An MHL hardware connection is needed (look up MHL in wikipedia), fortunately in the official Samsung specs from the press release it says that it has MHL. A video from MWC from someone representing the MHL consortium also says the SGS2 will be the first device supporting MHL.
I'll feel better once I see someone demo it, but Samsung have officially announced MHL capability for the SGS2.
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You think Mobile High-definition Link??
Yes... I want to see a demo to. It would be nice to have this mirroring capability.
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
doh...
l0st.prophet said:
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
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First of all... DO YOU REALLY NEED a HDTV that supports MHL??? No Games on the big screen? DAMN!!!
l0st.prophet said:
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
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This video describes how MHL works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
MHL - WOW - Love the idea!
erahk64 said:
This video describes how MHL works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
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Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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l0st.prophet said:
Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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It says you can use it without the adapter, but your device won't be charged.
l0st.prophet said:
Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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My friend you can use with any HDTV but you dont have charge of your battery device except if you buy an adapter MHL to charge and transmit signal on the same time. But how last your battery can provide of energy?
In my Xperience In my IPad I see 3 Movies via Wireless Apple TV and my battery show 30 % remain. In the case of SGSII at least You have enough power to see a movie with Screen turned Off (SGSII)
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Are there any news about a mirroring capability on the SGS II?
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I've been searching the net for some confirmation, that there is going to be a possibility playing games on the SGS II connected to a flat screen TV, but couldn't find anything to confirm that!
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Are there any news???
surely if this was possible, it would have been all over the exhibitions and videos of it would exist?
MarkusPO said:
surely if this was possible, it would have been all over the exhibitions and videos of it would exist?
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Or the SW used for demo phones didn't have the mirroring properly implemented yet and the option was not included in menus.
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I have not seen any demos where SGS2 is connected to a TV via MHL/HDMI.
Is there any previews or videos where they use that ?
No videos yet, the question of whether mirroring is on offer remans in the air.
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Funny... cuz... The first SGS had mirroring, if this one has it not, than it is a kind a regress!
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Sorry 4 my English.
Yep, I'd be very disappointed if this can't do mirroring, I love using it with my SGSI and would find it hard to part with (use my SGSI on the tele with BT keyboard and mouse, excellent experience, only problem is only SD-out).

HDMI Capable

would this work, does the galaxy player have MHL capability?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324582814&sr=1-8
Presumably you don't have a physical mini-hdmi port then? I've been reading conflicting reports of whether the device supports hdmi and wasn't sure quite what comes with it and whether there are regional differences.
lardman said:
Presumably you don't have a physical mini-hdmi port then? I've been reading conflicting reports of whether the device supports hdmi and wasn't sure quite what comes with it and whether there are regional differences.
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As i understand it, the Korean version of the SGP has a built in HDMI port. The other versions - International and US - do not. I don't know about the internal software on the US or Intl. versions supporting such an adapter.
I was wondering whether the MHL cables contain a chipset or if the HDMI encoding is done on the device (for things like the Galaxy S II), and therefore whether there's any possibility of HDMI output being available on the non-Korean devices via one of these MHL cables.
In any case I'll do some investigation when mine arrives, but if anyone knows what hw the Galaxy S II uses to support MHL (if any) then please do post.
Received the Samsung MHL to HDMI Adapter today (EIA2UHUNBEGSTA) and the US Version (YP-G70) does NOT support video output. I confirmed the Adapter is working OK by connecting it to a Galaxy Nexus phone & the video immediately appears.
Hi,
Probably not helpful, but I was in Korea recently, and we checked out the YP-G70 in a shop in Seoul, and that did have a mini-HDMI port on it. I didn't get it then, because they were asking $400-$500 for it (USD) and I had known that the US model was coming out soon, and had heard it was going to be in the $200+ range.
Also, I think some people bought from Exportprive, and supposedly those had the HDMI port plus the (Korean) TV receiver.
Just FYI...
Jim
I've been looking into MHL as well, and so far no one has responded to my queries as to whether it's a hardware or software feature in the device. If it's purely software, then there's hope for it existing on the device in the future. It seems that all the new ICS devices support it, but I don't know whether it's built in to ICS or not.
So there may be possible hope for future modding/porting of MHL.
I'm almost certain there is additional hardware to support MHL on devices that have it.
The G70 might have analog TV output like the Captivate did though.
dmesg output from a Samsung Galaxy S II would probably show the chip name, which would give us a clue. Anyone have a link to such a thing?
I don't think it has analog (composite) out, since it has a mic input in the earphone jack. look at the earphones that it comes with, see how there is already a fourth section?
I hope I'm wrong, lol!
I think the jack can be reconfigured/repurposed, just like the iPod.
denpri said:
Received the Samsung MHL to HDMI Adapter today (EIA2UHUNBEGSTA) and the US Version (YP-G70) does NOT support video output. I confirmed the Adapter is working OK by connecting it to a Galaxy Nexus phone & the video immediately appears.
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disappointing , Thanks for trying.
Entropy512 said:
I think the jack can be reconfigured/repurposed, just like the iPod.
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Maybe so, but I would think Samsung would list it somewhere in the user manual, wouldn't you? Btw, the iPod touche's audio jack doesn't double as a video out, you have to use the 32 prong apple jack.
wait, so if I have a 3.5mm to composit cable, a firmware upgrade would allow video output? Or would it be a hardware mod to get it to work?
iJimaniac said:
Maybe so, but I would think Samsung would list it somewhere in the user manual, wouldn't you? Btw, the iPod touche's audio jack doesn't double as a video out, you have to use the 32 prong apple jack.
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Maybe not the Touch - but others can do it - http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-Video-Cable-iPod/dp/B000STBSU4
Captivate also has TVout via the 3.5mm jack - http://www.amazon.com/RND-Power-Sol...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326309037&sr=1-1
Dyskmaster said:
wait, so if I have a 3.5mm to composit cable, a firmware upgrade would allow video output? Or would it be a hardware mod to get it to work?
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Unknown. This thread is speculation so far.
Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
iJimaniac said:
Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
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I tested mine to no avail, but on one tv, I did get the message "This device is unsupported". Most tv's either said no signal or nothing at all. Weird that one tv would recognize it...
Yup just tested - no good.
I wonder if you could make a mod, but I am 99% positive it needs hardware. To bad, I wonder why they took the HDMI out of the U.S and EU versions in the first place? I would have payed a little extra for it, if necessary.
Dyskmaster said:
I tested mine to no avail, but on one tv, I did get the message "This device is unsupported". Most tv's either said no signal or nothing at all. Weird that one tv would recognize it...
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If the cable was intended for an iPod, it may have a different pinout that caused the TV to see one of the audio outputs as video.
Edit: iPod AV out cables and Captivate ones should be the same, from tip to sleeve:
Left, Right, Ground, Video
iJimaniac said:
Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
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If they didn't have time, motivation to enable some feature, they won't list it even if it's possible, otherwise they'll get lots of returns with people complaining that such and such a feature doesn't work.
I suppose the thing to do is check the jack driver, which I seem to remember seeing somewhere (certainly there was an entry in the sysfs afair) and see whether it either shows how to enable TV out, or whether we can then workout what the chipset is that controls the jack.

Dock with USB OTG & Charging

Hi All,
I now have the Atrix with lapdock and it's really useful for travel in that I get a small lightweight system without having to lug a company issue laptop. I'd hoped to replace it with Note and a small hub to allow me to use my HDD to move files from say the HDD to my phone or to another USB drive in case I have to give another person files, etc.
Does anyone know if this is available for the Int'l Note?
Been looking but haven't seen much. I could buy a mini powered USB hub I guess but a dock would be nicer. AND if the hub had say 3 or 4 USB ports then I could plug mouse, kbd, hdd, and have one open port. BUT, that's so messy and half/ass looking. Plus I would have to prop up the Note to either type on screen or use a keyboard.
This is about as close as I can think of. http://www.spider-foot.com/battery-...ng-galaxy-note-n7000-i9220-i92h5e-p-1125.html
Im thinking about picking one up if I find that I have a need for a desk dock
Fountainhead931 said:
Hi All,
I now have the Atrix with lapdock and it's really useful for travel in that I get a small lightweight system without having to lug a company issue laptop. I'd hoped to replace it with Note and a small hub to allow me to use my HDD to move files from say the HDD to my phone or to another USB drive in case I have to give another person files, etc.
Does anyone know if this is available for the Int'l Note?
Been looking but haven't seen much. I could buy a mini powered USB hub I guess but a dock would be nicer. AND if the hub had say 3 or 4 USB ports then I could plug mouse, kbd, hdd, and have one open port. BUT, that's so messy and half/ass looking. Plus I would have to prop up the Note to either type on screen or use a keyboard.
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You can get a OTG adapter cable for your GNote which allows you to upload and download files, picts, video, music etc to a thumb drive to and from the GNote. I got mine from Amazon for like $3.50 or so. It has a micro USB to hook up to the phone and a USB for the thumb drive. I have not seen much luck on using the cable with a HDD, and I have not tried.
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jimmer411 said:
This is about as close as I can think of. http://www.spider-foot.com/battery-...ng-galaxy-note-n7000-i9220-i92h5e-p-1125.html
Im thinking about picking one up if I find that I have a need for a desk dock
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Dose anyone know if this is compatible with the AT&T note?
I would imagine so. I ended up ordering one so once it arrives I'll let you know
jimmer411 said:
I would imagine so. I ended up ordering one so once it arrives I'll let you know
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Yea me too I got the car dock as well let's hope it works lol
jimmer411 said:
This is about as close as I can think of. http://www.spider-foot.com/battery-...ng-galaxy-note-n7000-i9220-i92h5e-p-1125.html
Im thinking about picking one up if I find that I have a need for a desk dock
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That looks good but it clearly says:
Note: All goods selling in this advertisment is just for Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 / i9220 Asian and European Version Only.
deserthi said:
That looks good but it clearly says:
Note: All goods selling in this advertisment is just for Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 / i9220 Asian and European Version Only.
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And there is no difference between them physically. Both phones use a micro USB port in the same location and orientation. There is a US version, I dont know why it links the European model in my post tho.
I ordered one and it should be here next week I hope.
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jimmer411 said:
And there is no difference between them physically. Both phones use a micro USB port in the same location and orientation. There is a US version, I dont know why it links the European model in my post tho.
I ordered one and it should be here next week I hope.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Any further info on this dock? Did it receive it yet and are you happy with it? I bought the official samsung dock that is compatible with the AT&T Note but I have a slim case on it so the Micro USB port didn't reach far enough! This one looks nice but it probably has the same issue with a thin case preventing a good contact with the micro USB port.
KiDiGi HDMI CHARGER CRADLE DOCK FOR SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE i717
Google it!
Can't post link!
Hope with the cradle and the lapdock. Make Note Netbook. HA!

[Q] MHL-to-HDMI generic adapters?

I bought a generic MHL-to-HDMI adapter off ebay ($5) and can't get it to work at all; there's no signal, no hdmi notification, etc. Have tried multiple ways of plugging in, rebooting, powering, also tried it on a Samsung Galaxy II with no luck.
I confirmed with HTC that the Desire X does in fact have MHL (their site doesn't list it, though others do), here's the main part of their reply:
This is to confirm that the MHL feature is available on your phone. You just need to make sure that you are using a compatible MHL adaptor. We would like to know if the MHL-HDMI adaptor that you are currently using is a third party accessory. If yes, there is a possibility that this is a compatibility issue.
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So the question is, does anyone know if the Desire X is using a "non standard" MHL, or has anyone gotten generic MHL adapters to work? On the other hand, I have found MHL adapters that say they work for particular HTC devices, but on enquiry about compatibility the sellers just reiterated their list of devices; are there different MHL standards used in the HTC stable?
I would like to connect my phone to HDMI TVs/monitors, but my desire (pardon the pun) isn't strong enough to justify spending $50 on a HTC-branded adapter.
I am currently looking for the same adapter to use on my Note 2. In my research I came across some mention of the Note 2 using using a slightly different plug (more pins I think) compared to the same connector on the first Galaxy Note. So just a thought that you may be experiencing that kind of issue... Although two connectors can both be MHL to HDMI, they may still have different specs.
RoGuE_StreaK said:
I bought a generic MHL-to-HDMI adapter off ebay ($5) and can't get it to work at all; there's no signal, no hdmi notification, etc. Have tried multiple ways of plugging in, rebooting, powering, also tried it on a Samsung Galaxy II with no luck.
I confirmed with HTC that the Desire X does in fact have MHL (their site doesn't list it, though others do), here's the main part of their reply:
So the question is, does anyone know if the Desire X is using a "non standard" MHL, or has anyone gotten generic MHL adapters to work? On the other hand, I have found MHL adapters that say they work for particular HTC devices, but on enquiry about compatibility the sellers just reiterated their list of devices; are there different MHL standards used in the HTC stable?
I would like to connect my phone to HDMI TVs/monitors, but my desire (pardon the pun) isn't strong enough to justify spending $50 on a HTC-branded adapter.
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Did you ever get to the bottom of the problem, RoGuE_StreaK?
I recently bought a HTC Desire X and I'm still not sure if the HDMI OUT feature will work (since they don't list it). Can you confirm that you did, indeed manage to play movies on the a external screen?
Cheers,
Juro
JuroClimax said:
Did you ever get to the bottom of the problem, RoGuE_StreaK?
I recently bought a HTC Desire X and I'm still not sure if the HDMI OUT feature will work (since they don't list it). Can you confirm that you did, indeed manage to play movies on the a external screen?
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Nope, never found a solution, info is non-existent. I find it incredibly poor that HTC don't give any info or support for the two USB-port (physical) future trends that this phone is supposed to be capable of, both MHL and USB-OTG.
Kinda waiting to see if it ever gets JB, to see if support will be included then. I'm not going to hack this thing with some unknown 14yr-old's leet rom in the hope that I can plug in devices it is supposed to support in stock form.
MHL seems to be another no-standard standard that means SFA. Even sellers that list their MHL adapter as supporting certain HTC devices won't say that it supports the Desire X.

[Q] [DX & TV] MHI (HDMI) Cable for HTC Desire X

Hello everyone,
I have a rooted HTC Desire X, my rom is mySENSEdx+ RC2.0. I was wondering if the an MHL cable of Samsung S3 would work for me to link my phone to an LCD TV. I would like to know that because I don't want to take any risk buying that expensive cable.
Endless thanks in advance.
Bradypodion said:
Hello everyone,
I have a rooted HTC Desire X, my rom is mySENSEdx+ RC2.0. I was wondering if the an MHL cable of Samsung S3 would work for me to link my phone to an LCD TV. I would like to know that because I don't want to take any risk buying that expensive cable.
Endless thanks in advance.
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probably not we have OTG support YES but our dual core CPU is not even capable of running a 720p video so I have my doubts about the MHL cable
MihaiA7X said:
probably not we have OTG support YES but our dual core CPU is not even capable of running a 720p video so I have my doubts about the MHL cable
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First of all, thank you so much for your reply.
My brother has an LG Optimus 3D, it has a lower capacity than HTC DX's (Same CPU; RAM 250). He does link his phone to the LCD. Yet, I don't probably know more than you. I did not want to take any risk, the cable is a bit expensive for me; I cannot afford to buy it. ^^' ..but anyway, thank you so much. If I ever make sure I will inform you.
I have bought a MHL adapter from Deal Extreme but it doesnt work.
So I asked HTC if the dx supported mhl and they said it does but only if you
buy their mhl adapter.
Tresox said:
I have bought a MHL adapter from Deal Extreme but it doesnt work.
So I asked HTC if the dx supported mhl and they said it does but only if you
buy their mhl adapter.
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I see.. =l
By the way, another question came to my mind: Is there a difference between an adabter and a simple cable? One that I can mention is that adapters carry the name of the company like Samsung, whereas cables don't.
Bradypodion said:
I see.. =l
By the way, another question came to my mind: Is there a difference between an adabter and a simple cable? One that I can mention is that adapters carry the name of the company like Samsung, whereas cables don't.
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The Desire X doesnt have HDMI out so this is the only solution.

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