Well, its come to the time to allow my kid their first, own, smartphone. Actually, I will be passing onto him, one of my older Android phones; old as in running Gingerbread. One of my phones as is its rooted.
Is there some way to block him from installing apps or allowing app updates? Possibly with a password or PIN, that only I would know?
Yea, I know how to stop auto-updates. But, I am sure if the phone asked him to manually approve downloading and installing an update, he would naturally comply and click on "yes" (or "accept" or whatever the prompt says).
I kind-of look at this as being training wheels for a smartphone. By the time he cracks any such password, he'll be ready to go without such restrictions. :angel:
Probably is an app store that does that but google play doesnt. Keep looking, but probably need a child lock of some type
You could root it and delete the google play app
I think you need tot flash an official firmware... And root it afterwards...
What kind of phone do you have?
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You could root it and delete the google play app
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I think that would stop me, too, from updating and adding new apps.
I don't want to stop it overall. I just want to stop him from doing such (at least until he learns the ins-and-outs).
droidsinfo said:
What kind of phone do you have?
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MOT Droid 3.
WaltA said:
MOT Droid 3.
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Here is a link to the official firm update...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643521
If you do this everything wil be reseted and you can root it afterwards...
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I've got a corporate email app (Good for Enterprise) that my administrators have locked from running on rooted devices. Despite my protestations that rooting is not evil, they don't want me to run it unless I am stock. So.... is there any way to "hide" the root? Its incredibly annoying to be forced to choose between root and email access
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I've got a corporate email app (Good for Enterprise) that my administrators have locked from running on rooted devices. Despite my protestations that rooting is not evil, they don't want me to run it unless I am stock. So.... is there any way to "hide" the root? Its incredibly annoying to be forced to choose between root and email access
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I believe in Launcher Pro, you can hide Icons without uninstalling the app. May be an idea?
Yeah but the program itself is detecting if the device is rooted Was hoping there was some way to sandbox the app or something to make it not think it was on a rooted system. Thanks though!
They have an app that detects root access and reports back?
Couldn't you just deny it root access when it asks for permission?
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Couldn't you just deny it root access when it asks for permission?
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Good idea! Then hide Superuser if need be.
That sucks but I can appreciate their decision not to compromise their security. Someone came on here asking how to physically remove his camera for work related purposes. What a bummer!
Run LP....u can hide apps from showing up in the app drawee
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U get flash back to 4.1.26 using sbf... run the gladiroot before update... then update...
Let their app run... it wont be able to find or get root... They set you up...
Then you run the after root...
Bam... Root and email access ^_^
tianqi said:
U get flash back to 4.1.26 using sbf... run the gladiroot before update... then update...
Let their app run... it wont be able to find or get root... They set you up...
Then you run the after root...
Bam... Root and email access ^_^
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I assume it checks every time it's launched not just once.
I did deny it root but it still saw it. It does seem to check on every launch also.
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I myself am looking for the same thing for the DX. GFE checks at launch or at anytime it wants. There is no way to tell when it will check. I do know if I remove root with Z4 app it works fine while leaving the SU icon in the apps. This tells me it looks for either permissions or something else.
I have offered $$ for a work around to JRummy but havent heard back from him
You can't "hide" root. It's not an app that's installed, and I doubt anything that's checking for root access is checking for just superuser.apk. "root" means you have the su binary in your /system directory, and this is likely what it's checking for. You can't "hide" it without breaking every app that needs root to function.
Surely someone must know what GFE checks????
bongd said:
They have an app that detects root access and reports back?
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That would be this...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck
bretto69 said:
Surely someone must know what GFE checks????
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It checks for root access no way to deny it, except for removing root. Their is a reason why GFE checks for root because in order for your phones to be secure you actually dont want root, if you lost your phone with root on them and secure corporate emails the attacker would only have to plugin in the phone to the computer and run ADB to get all your passwords
Get yourself a friend in the IT department.
Answer................don't root!
Problem solved!
Next!
CaelanT said:
Answer................don't root!
Problem solved!
Next!
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Uh yea.....
Just a suggestion but do you think droid wall could help?
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Circumventing security controls, could very well be grounds for termination, tread with caution.
just had my Galaxy2 stolen, I had it on the pattern lock...will it wipe after certain attempts or is there a way to wipe it?
hawrai68 said:
just had my Galaxy2 stolen, I had it on the pattern lock...will it wipe after certain attempts or is there a way to wipe it?
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Did you sign up for samsung dive?
No...Can the unlock pattern be by-passed easily?
Try plan b from market.
Plan B from Lookout labs is a find my phone app that you download. AFTER you lose your phone. Thanks to the new Android market, all you have to do is: Login to the Android Market, Find Plan B and Install it. Plan B will start locating your phone using cell towers and GPS. It will email you the location every 10 mins. It works best if you have the GPS enabled already as the app can not do that by it'self.
Plan B will start locating your phone using cell towers and GPS. It will email you the location every 10 mins. It works best if you have the GPS enabled already as the app can’t do that by itself. You can restart the process by texting locate to your number.
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No...Can the unlock pattern be by-passed easily?
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Yeah pretty easily from my experience... Not sure how many people know how to though
Surely flashing a stock rom with repartition will remove it? You don't need the pattern to get in download mode. Sorry to hear about your loss.
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Surely flashing a stock rom with repartition will remove it? You don't need the pattern to get in download mode. Sorry to hear about your loss.
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They wouldn't even need to repartition... This is the only downside of an unlocked bootloader phone.
Thing is, thieves tend to be the lowest levels of civilisation, so will they know how to get it into download mode? Or how to correctly flash it in ODIN? Or do they even know about the possibility of such modes?
Yes, some thieves are smart, but most ain't.
I just don't want them to access my info...I rather they had to wipe it and keep the damn thing.
Will try the App also...thanks.
i guess you didnt install mobile defense or any tracking app to your phone. that's the first thing that gets installed to my device, automatically actually because its tied to my google account. so i can go to mobiledefense website and track my phone, wipe the phone remotely, etc. sorry for such a loss!
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i guess you didnt install mobile defense or any tracking app to your phone. that's the first thing that gets installed to my device, automatically actually because its tied to my google account. so i can go to mobiledefense website and track my phone, wipe the phone remotely, etc. sorry for such a loss!
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what apps u use mate to do that,i want to do on my phone thanks
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what apps u use mate to do that,i want to do on my phone thanks
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I use mobile defense, but I heard they closed off for new users. I don't know, but similar apps exist like where's my Droid or something like that.
Prey project is free iirc.
Lookout is and app that allows you to perform wipes, & locate your device also.
I've also used LostPhone(stop sign for app icon)
hawrai68 said:
just had my Galaxy2 stolen, I had it on the pattern lock...will it wipe after certain attempts or is there a way to wipe it?
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Have you rang your network and reported it stolen?
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no one mentioned the first thing to do!
CHANGE YOUR GOOGLE PASSWORD!!
Yes I changed Google password 1st thing..Sim card was not in the phone, did not think network would help.
give the network your ime number and they will block the phone for you.
RogerPodacter said:
I use mobile defense, but I heard they closed off for new users. I don't know, but similar apps exist like where's my Droid or something like that.
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You can use Samsung's solution on SGS2, SamsungDrive . Also lets you track and remote wipe.
bobbysixkiller said:
no one mentioned the first thing to do!
CHANGE YOUR GOOGLE PASSWORD!!
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+1000 change ALL passwords that you saved on the phone (like Yahoo, papal, whatever). Google is the main one.
dk206 said:
Have you rang your network and reported it stolen?
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the network can only stop the activity on the SIM card (phone is irrelevant, and they can't do **** besides deactivating the SIM imho)
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give the network your ime number and they will block the phone for you.
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They MAY block it but only from activating on their network.
OP, I am genuinely sorry for the loss.
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Prey project is free iirc.
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this. up to 3 devices for free. i'd get this first thing on your new phone. try planb for the current phone to see if theres any way to track it.
I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
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I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
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Ability to side load apps doesn't mean we can get all apps to work. For example: android market, 3rd party keyboards, etc... Will not work on this device without root permissions to change what the permissions of the app is itself. I believe the developer who was able to override the n button to take you to a 3rd party home launcher also requires root. You can remove unwanted apps (chess, whatever other lame games were built in) that you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
MOST importantly (at least for me) you can run titanium backup and backup apps+data to avoid losing info and having to re-download everything all over again in the event of a reset.
Okay, good points, thanks for the info.
I'm a little scared to give this a shot but maybe I'll bite the bullet and try it.
The n button app doesn't require root, least not the original. Haven't check it since then as it worked perfectly for me in the first iteration.
Until we can load CM on it, mine will be staying unrooted. Got everything else I needed with sideloading.
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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Quite a few of us hope that we can not receive updates. BNs handful of crappy apps really can't benefit from updates and the truncated version of Android they've used doesn't have enough substance to be worth updating. Those of us who have sideloaded this into a modern, useful device often prefer to be left to our own devices (pun intended).
I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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Ah, you may be correct. If that was the question then what I'm finding is that I'm getting market updates just fine. Some of the apps I have sideloaded from non-market sources are updating too, some might not be but how would I know? The few apps I have needed to copy to the root will not be able to update as far as I know.
My first response incorrectly assumed you meant OTA (over the air) updates of the whole shebang from BN.
You can always update the same way you got the initial program, sideloading. I haven't had any trouble updating my Amazon Market apps though.
I don't have googles market currently.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
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If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
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How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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On unrooted devices I have sideloaded apps with when an update to that program is posted by the developer, a notification is automatically sent out. Granted, that is with Market apps but I have not seen a difference between Google Market apps, AppBrain, Amazon or Android Market. Don't recall ever loading anything from BN Market as I never wanted anything from there. They have a habit of charging for apps that can be had for free on other Markets.
You could always manually login and check each app for an update, too.
Hello,
I was told this is the place to come for everything related Galaxy S III from several people. Please excuse me if this is the wrong place or section.
I'm completely new to the Galaxy 3 and Android in general.
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday (amazon $149 no tax, free 2 day shipping) :victory:
As you can imagine coming form the Pre, my mind is blown. It's a bit overwhelming, I'm a pretty tech-savvy dude (pre was hacked to its limits) so I down to tinker. But before I even get started with that I have some basic questions.
1. Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
1a Even better would be able to use a simple pin for screen unlock but still have the SD/Internal encrypted with a long password. Is that possible?
2. When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
3. Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
4. What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
5. What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
6. Why is there "com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo.D..." under Device administrator? Do I need that? Is that a security hole/risk?
Again, sorry for so many questions, just trying to wrap my head around all of this. If there is a better place to be asking question please let me know.
Look forward to being part of the community! :highfive:
BR
1) not by default, maybe an app could aid there, not sure, but on stock "out of the box" the answer is "no"
1a) nope, if you want to use encryption, it's password all the way
2) Settings -> Application Manager -> "Running" tab
3) Kind of. It also warns you when you try to kill off a system app, but you can't really damage anything by doing that. I tend to kill just everything I don't want at the moment (which is usually everything but the widgets and app I am intentionally running) and all is well.
Stuff that REALLY needs to run, restarts automatically anyways (and some that don't have to, do as well....)
4) Settings -> Application Manager -> All -> Tap on app -> "Disable"
5) You will find an uncountable number of ROMs / Firmwares here. Stock as well as custom. What the best one is, is personal preference.
6) might be something added by the carrier. try to disable it, see what happens
7) ( ) .... ( ) whoops, no 7 xD
Hope that helped a bit
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday
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You most certainly are in the wrong forum. This one is for the international S3 which doesn't feature LTE. There's a Sprint forum right above/below this one =)
Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
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That would make password unlock more or less redundant. Anyone could still access the phone.
When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
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You're correct. Well, partially. It's still "alive" in terms of being in the memory. But it doesn't use CPU anymore which is all that counts.
However you don't want to kill it. Cached processes take up no space (the RAM is emptyed whenever the capacity is needed), no resources and allow you to multi-task right back to where you left off.
Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
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You don't want to stop anything. Refer to the prior question for this. Well... you may want to kick off some bloatware but to get rid of thm the phone needs to be rooted. There are threads listing which apps you can safely remove.
What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
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As said, you need to be rooted. Use TItanium Backup to freeze the bloatware. It's still physically "there" on the disk (doesn't take up much space) and you can defrost it whenever needed but as long as it's frozen it cannot be started.
What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
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App updates are always delivered through their corresponding market. Usually the Google Play Store, but as for Samsung apps they have their own update mechanism.
Firmware and ROM are updated either OTA or through Kies on the computer. They can also be manually flashed through Odin.
"com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo
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Sounds like some carrier bloatware and from the name of it is supposed to open some file extension called '.spr' for the phone.
Thank you for the info! Mods could you please move to correct forum?
Is there anyway to clear android first time app install check?
For instant, some apps detect whether it is the first time "XYZ" app installs on the device or not, or it had uninstalled previously and reinstall again?
Anyone know how to clear those log or temp or something?
Try SD maid. That might help.
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Try SD maid. That might help.
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Thank you, but the SD Maid won't help as I tried.
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Thank you, but the SD Maid won't help as I tried.
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In that case, let us know what are you trying to do anyway as I don't think there's any check in android itself, but your application may do such check.
olokos said:
In that case, let us know what are you trying to do anyway as I don't think there's any check in android itself, but your application may do such check.
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Well, I've been using some apps...
In those apps, sometime they come up with some promotion to earn some coins or code by installing another app as they advertised..
The condition is that those app must be the first time install and run on the device, otherwise it will be ineligible for the redemption.
"those app" I mean, I had once installed before and current uninstall. If I install it again, some mechanism detects that this is not first time and I won't qualify for the promotion.
Thank you for the reply anyway.
ninetitle said:
Well, I've been using some apps...
In those apps, sometime they come up with some promotion to earn some coins or code by installing another app as they advertised..
The condition is that those app must be the first time install and run on the device, otherwise it will be ineligible for the redemption.
"those app" I mean, I had once installed before and current uninstall. If I install it again, some mechanism detects that this is not first time and I won't qualify for the promotion.
Thank you for the reply anyway.
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It might be harder then I've thought then. I'll send you a PM what else can u try to get that.