I've got a corporate email app (Good for Enterprise) that my administrators have locked from running on rooted devices. Despite my protestations that rooting is not evil, they don't want me to run it unless I am stock. So.... is there any way to "hide" the root? Its incredibly annoying to be forced to choose between root and email access
madpoet said:
I've got a corporate email app (Good for Enterprise) that my administrators have locked from running on rooted devices. Despite my protestations that rooting is not evil, they don't want me to run it unless I am stock. So.... is there any way to "hide" the root? Its incredibly annoying to be forced to choose between root and email access
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I believe in Launcher Pro, you can hide Icons without uninstalling the app. May be an idea?
Yeah but the program itself is detecting if the device is rooted Was hoping there was some way to sandbox the app or something to make it not think it was on a rooted system. Thanks though!
They have an app that detects root access and reports back?
Couldn't you just deny it root access when it asks for permission?
thunderpack said:
Couldn't you just deny it root access when it asks for permission?
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Good idea! Then hide Superuser if need be.
That sucks but I can appreciate their decision not to compromise their security. Someone came on here asking how to physically remove his camera for work related purposes. What a bummer!
Run LP....u can hide apps from showing up in the app drawee
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U get flash back to 4.1.26 using sbf... run the gladiroot before update... then update...
Let their app run... it wont be able to find or get root... They set you up...
Then you run the after root...
Bam... Root and email access ^_^
tianqi said:
U get flash back to 4.1.26 using sbf... run the gladiroot before update... then update...
Let their app run... it wont be able to find or get root... They set you up...
Then you run the after root...
Bam... Root and email access ^_^
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I assume it checks every time it's launched not just once.
I did deny it root but it still saw it. It does seem to check on every launch also.
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I myself am looking for the same thing for the DX. GFE checks at launch or at anytime it wants. There is no way to tell when it will check. I do know if I remove root with Z4 app it works fine while leaving the SU icon in the apps. This tells me it looks for either permissions or something else.
I have offered $$ for a work around to JRummy but havent heard back from him
You can't "hide" root. It's not an app that's installed, and I doubt anything that's checking for root access is checking for just superuser.apk. "root" means you have the su binary in your /system directory, and this is likely what it's checking for. You can't "hide" it without breaking every app that needs root to function.
Surely someone must know what GFE checks????
bongd said:
They have an app that detects root access and reports back?
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That would be this...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck
bretto69 said:
Surely someone must know what GFE checks????
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It checks for root access no way to deny it, except for removing root. Their is a reason why GFE checks for root because in order for your phones to be secure you actually dont want root, if you lost your phone with root on them and secure corporate emails the attacker would only have to plugin in the phone to the computer and run ADB to get all your passwords
Get yourself a friend in the IT department.
Answer................don't root!
Problem solved!
Next!
CaelanT said:
Answer................don't root!
Problem solved!
Next!
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Uh yea.....
Just a suggestion but do you think droid wall could help?
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Circumventing security controls, could very well be grounds for termination, tread with caution.
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I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
jimmysuggs said:
I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
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Ability to side load apps doesn't mean we can get all apps to work. For example: android market, 3rd party keyboards, etc... Will not work on this device without root permissions to change what the permissions of the app is itself. I believe the developer who was able to override the n button to take you to a 3rd party home launcher also requires root. You can remove unwanted apps (chess, whatever other lame games were built in) that you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
MOST importantly (at least for me) you can run titanium backup and backup apps+data to avoid losing info and having to re-download everything all over again in the event of a reset.
Okay, good points, thanks for the info.
I'm a little scared to give this a shot but maybe I'll bite the bullet and try it.
The n button app doesn't require root, least not the original. Haven't check it since then as it worked perfectly for me in the first iteration.
Until we can load CM on it, mine will be staying unrooted. Got everything else I needed with sideloading.
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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Quite a few of us hope that we can not receive updates. BNs handful of crappy apps really can't benefit from updates and the truncated version of Android they've used doesn't have enough substance to be worth updating. Those of us who have sideloaded this into a modern, useful device often prefer to be left to our own devices (pun intended).
I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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Ah, you may be correct. If that was the question then what I'm finding is that I'm getting market updates just fine. Some of the apps I have sideloaded from non-market sources are updating too, some might not be but how would I know? The few apps I have needed to copy to the root will not be able to update as far as I know.
My first response incorrectly assumed you meant OTA (over the air) updates of the whole shebang from BN.
You can always update the same way you got the initial program, sideloading. I haven't had any trouble updating my Amazon Market apps though.
I don't have googles market currently.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
skeeterpro said:
If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
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How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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On unrooted devices I have sideloaded apps with when an update to that program is posted by the developer, a notification is automatically sent out. Granted, that is with Market apps but I have not seen a difference between Google Market apps, AppBrain, Amazon or Android Market. Don't recall ever loading anything from BN Market as I never wanted anything from there. They have a habit of charging for apps that can be had for free on other Markets.
You could always manually login and check each app for an update, too.
Hello everyone i Just found out the TF201 is compatible with Brighthouse networks Live TV app, after downloading and installing it i have hit two issues, the first being it realized adb was on, simple I turned it off, second it popped up again saying the device was rooted and it would not run on it, so How if possible can i hide root?, the built in temp unroot in superuser didn't work
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U need to unroot only way
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you can always try to use temp unroot via voodoo root keeper
j/w hwo does it check if you have root or not? does it ask? if it does, can't you simply decline the root access?
Wrong thread!
It dosent ask, it just has a pop up that says "Your device is rooted and unusable for watching Live TV" it said the same thing about ADB but that was an easy fix
as i said you can just do a temp-unroot using voodoo root keeper
did you try that?
Voodoo doesnt work either, I tried uninstalling the program and reinstalling it after temp unrooting
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Voodoo doesnt work either, I tried uninstalling the program and reinstalling it after temp unrooting
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There's a way to run google play movie rental on a rooted device by making some changes. I can't remember exactly what the solution is but I will do some google searches and find it, and I'm thinking the same solution or something very similar would work on your brighthouse app.
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There's a way to run google play movie rental on a rooted device by making some changes. I can't remember exactly what the solution is but I will do some google searches and find it, and I'm thinking the same solution or something very similar would work on your brighthouse app.
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Any news on this? I have a Galaxy 10.1 BHN doesn't work because it's rooted. Why do they even bother to do that? Scared they might record their shows & movies? I mean, why else?
CharliesTheMan said:
There's a way to run google play movie rental on a rooted device by making some changes. I can't remember exactly what the solution is but I will do some google searches and find it, and I'm thinking the same solution or something very similar would work on your brighthouse app.
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Any updates? :< I've tried Temp unroot, Xposed module Root Cloak, neither work.
Well, its come to the time to allow my kid their first, own, smartphone. Actually, I will be passing onto him, one of my older Android phones; old as in running Gingerbread. One of my phones as is its rooted.
Is there some way to block him from installing apps or allowing app updates? Possibly with a password or PIN, that only I would know?
Yea, I know how to stop auto-updates. But, I am sure if the phone asked him to manually approve downloading and installing an update, he would naturally comply and click on "yes" (or "accept" or whatever the prompt says).
I kind-of look at this as being training wheels for a smartphone. By the time he cracks any such password, he'll be ready to go without such restrictions. :angel:
Probably is an app store that does that but google play doesnt. Keep looking, but probably need a child lock of some type
You could root it and delete the google play app
I think you need tot flash an official firmware... And root it afterwards...
What kind of phone do you have?
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You could root it and delete the google play app
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I think that would stop me, too, from updating and adding new apps.
I don't want to stop it overall. I just want to stop him from doing such (at least until he learns the ins-and-outs).
droidsinfo said:
What kind of phone do you have?
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MOT Droid 3.
WaltA said:
MOT Droid 3.
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Here is a link to the official firm update...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643521
If you do this everything wil be reseted and you can root it afterwards...
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
You should did root
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What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
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You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
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How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
As I mentioned every time I need to do a factory reset it takes about 4 hours of disabling things to get it to the state I want.
There's this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058944
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You should did root
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I can't.
Planterz said:
What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
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Thanks.
es0tericcha0s said:
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
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Yes you can disable them but it takes about 4 hours to do it each time. There's a lot of them. About 95% of stuff needs to be disabled.
Towelroot looks great unfortunately I am not able to root the phone. They don't use knox. I can do anything but root the phone really. I really just want vanilla android I'm a bit sick of touchwiz. I'd love to just flash to the developer edition or something.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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The S4s bootloader is locked so basically not a lot to choose from. And as others have mentioned you need root to gain access to remove bloatware. Sadly samsung phones on VZW are filled with it as well as many other phones, it's not limited to just samsung.
And navigator may be better than Google maps but maps is free and having been a former user of both NFL mobile (when it was free) and navigator I'm happy I got rid of both of them
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bird11 said:
How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
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You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
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You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
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I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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ShapesBlue said:
I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
el-figurin said:
Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
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That's very true. Some people however don't know you need root to remove bloatware or unneeded apps
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Has anybody else noticed Capital One Mobile Wallet app requesting root permissions? I wonder why it's doing this. Maybe to check to see if the device is rooted? NFC payments still work. I'm using rootcloack to hide root from the app.
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It is doing it as more and more banks are testing out how to find root on devices.
Just a heads up that root cloak really doesn't work. Also keep in mind they are starting to look for xposed as well. As they close security holes.
But what is the app doing w/ root?...
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But what is the app doing w/ root?...
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Nothing at the moment. Just checking if it gets denied or not. A few banks are doing this. They are testing methods of detecting root. You can bet sooner or later they wont work on rooted devices.
I came here to find out about this. I see it in my log, repeatedly, sometimes several times a minute. It's really annoying as there are pages and pages of only "Wallet", and then I'll see another app or two, then more pages of Wallet. I set it to deny superuser, but it keeps trying.
If I try to set it up to use, it of course says it can't work because I'm rooted.