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sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this....
i can't find out what i need to by doing forum searches and maybe this could help someone else too..
...and feel free to redirect me to another thread for some specifics.
any way i have my phone rooted and running kaos froyo v24
what do i need to do to best try other roms, or just update to v30?
how do i flash ? - and how do i know when to do a full wipe? - and what does that entail(should i do a backup , and does the back up need to be on my computer,not my phone?)
could flashing other roms make my current one unstable?
and lastly .....will i lose all my apps and contacts and stuff with each flash or full wipe?
any clarification on these matters would be awesome.
and thanks so much everyone..... you have given me a better phone
brendan
This would be better placed in Q&A, but I will be happy to help you. All you need to do to flash another rom is what you did for the first one. To move up from one version of a rom to another, you don't need to wipe unless the instructions specify you to do so. But when in doubt, wipe. That is if you dont mind losing all of your saved data. But when going to a new rom, then wiping is a must. Yes, you will lose all apps and contacts for each wipe. No, your phone will not be unstable because of the flash, though if the rom has bugs then it could be. Hope this helps
I suggest installing titanium backup from the market. It allows you to save your current apps and data to be reinstalled on your new rom.
Before flashing a new rom, create a nandroid of your current rom by holding vol up + power. Scroll to backup/restore and create the nand. If for any reason you dont like the new rom, you can wipe data, dalvik, and ext (if your sd card is partitioned) and restore the nand. Your phone will be exactly like before.
To flash a new rom, save the file to the root of your sd card (not in any folder), do a wipe if your going to a new rom or if you have problems updating the old one, and flash the file you downloaded. If your updating the same rom the developer will tell you if you need to wipe or not.
FYI- Nands are saved on your sd card in the nandroid folder. You dont need to mess with them. When you restore, amon ra will look in that folder for you. Don't rename your recoveries like I did and render them useless.
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And your contacts should be resynced when you flash a new rom as long as you're using Gmail and allowing it to backup.
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awesome !!!
thanks so much guys!
Hello,
I'm new here and recently bought a live with walkman, my first android phone.
However, I'm running short on space and so I'm looking into rooting.
But before attempting anything I would like to ask a few questions a bout it.
I'm planning on using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit, which seems pretty straightforward. The thing is that I'm not sure
what to do before or after attempting this, the closest 'guide' I found for this was the following thread:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
It explains you how to back up your files so you don't lose stuff, but it's quite old, so is it still applicable?
Second question, the live is getting an ice cream sandwich update late march, can I still upgrade to it using doomlord's method,
and/or if necessary using his unroot kit?
I'm quite excited about android 4.0, but is the upgrade possible or even necessary with (perhaps better) roms out there?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389501&highlight=ice+cream+sandwich
This topic goes over this, but I want to be sure...
On the same note, if I just unlock my phone without using any custom Roms, would I still be able to use go launcher?
Thirdly, some of the articles I read listed tethering and screenshot taking as benefits of rooting, but my walkman is already
capable of doing these, or at least should be. Is it still worthwhile to root for this?
And finally, the main reason why I want to root my phone. I'm using apps2sd at the moment to get as much space in my
internal memory as I can right now, but it is only capable
of transferring some applications partially. As I've read it, rooting allows you to transfer most applications to your sd, but
does it also allow for a bigger part to be transferred? Thus allowing you to install all the applications you want instead of
having a hard time deciding what app is essential and what not.
I also want to delete some of the bloatware that came with the device...
I guess that's all for now, I'm really anxious at the moment to see what my device is capable of.
Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes, English isn't my main laguage and I loved the noob register video
Oh, and thank you for reading through all of this if you've made it this far
ok first of all rooting will give your live a super power to do anything inside system so rooting is awesome,
You can do more things that unrooted phone can't do like
1] Can use titanium back up to backup apps and its configured settings
2] Can modify system files for looks and performance
3] and can you CPU boosters to overclock underclock CPU can use sd-ext for external SD as phone memory and much more...................
Second you can root unroot your live with this,so don't worry
Root Unroot Toolkit
Third i have unlocked boot loader of my XMP (SK17i) but the above method of rooting doesn't require unlocked boot loaders.But its up to you whether to unloack bootloader or not as it will void your warranty....
About ICS so yes you can get it anyhow after rooting unlocking bootloader and using other roms don't worry...
You can use Link2sd for getting extra phone storage space after rooting
for more information search the threads on xda
So after doing a lot more reading after the last time I posted here 2 days ago, I made myself this checklist of things I have/want to do.
But before I do this, I have these questions:
- Is this the right way to do it. I may have forgotten something or may have used an outdated guide…
- If I succeed in doing this, but am, for whatever reason, unhappy about the result, will the unroot give me back my untouched phone, or would it still be detectable that I tempered with it?
- I’m having a hard time deciding what to do whit the partitioning of the sd card. Mainly because I haven’t found a guide (yet) that explains what everything is used for. As I understand it, you delete everything on it, create a new primary FAT32 partition (for a 16gb card), which you use as you would your original sd card. But I don’t yet understand whether to use ext2 or swap system or both, as I do not yet understand what they are meant to do. Is the ext2 used to store the applications and act as a second internal storage and the swap system as extra memory for the phone? I’m still reading but haven’t found an answer yet :/
EDIT: just found this:
http://www.diy-computer-repairs.com/partition-sd-card-android-installation/
- Forgot one thing. The article on partitioning from xda mentions you have to remove your sd card from your phone before partitioning, but can this be done as well by leaving it in your phone?
How to backup, root and install custom roms for your live with walkman?
0. Creating SD partition
- Backup everything on the sd card
- Download and install “MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition” on your computer
- Delete the old partitions on your sd card
- Create a new FAT/FAT32 primary partition that will be the “new sd card”
- Create ext2 or swap file system with the unallocated space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVK-tJe8pXE&feature=related
1. Pre-instal back-up
- Backup contacts to gmail cloud
- Use program like mybackup pro to backup other data
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
2. Actual rooting
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...oting-your-android-phone/#install-custom-roms
- Install SDK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
- Use DooMLoRD’s Easy Rooting Toolkit v4 to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
3. Post-Rooting
3.1 Using Stock Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/topics/features-2/best-apps-for-rooted-users-series/
- Backup using Titaniumbackup
- Uninstall bloatware using Rootexplorer or es file explorer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425461&highlight=walkman
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14002417
3.2 Using Custom Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
- Install Rom Manager
- Create a recovery image using Rom Manager
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
- Make Backup of current Rom using Rom Manager
- Download and install custom Rom to root folder SD (Cyanogen?)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-7-makes-my-android-phone-feel-future-proof/
- Flash custom rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-phone-with-rom-manager-full-backup-restore/
4. Unrooting
- (If using custom rom, restore backup of stock Rom using Rom manager)
- Use DooMLorD’s Unroot kit to return to original state
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18879974#post18879974
No one?:/
Then I'll just try it out myself hopefully I won't brick my phone
i also have live with walkman which i bought few days back.
i also have some questions
i want to root the device using doomlord.
1. Since on rooting my warranty will void but since i can unroot the device. Will unrooting make it same as packed .
2. also after rooting i can uninstall the SE apps that i dont need can SE service center can detect that i have rooted my phone.
Ok, I've been able to root my device, which didn't take long, and I don't know what I was afraid of. I'm going ahead and I'm going to download titaniumbackup and rootexplorer to backup/freeze and use rom manager to create an image and a complete backup and then I'm off exploring
@abhishekcal: As I understand it, unrooting will, providing everything goes as planned, will give you back your stock phone, but while it's rooted SE might detect this and you may lose your warranty, but then again, I'm not completely sure, so you better wait for an answer from a senior member
thanks for answering my query since SE have released the new update did u tried the update and rooting again.
Please answer these also:
1. DID u do only root or also use any other modifiaction like custom rom and unlocking boot.
2. if after the rooting i delete all the system apps can i get then back using a backup so that it remain undetected that it has been rooted.
so i got the s3 two nights ago (eep!:highfive
and i want to transfer all my game data (ie, saves) over from my Desire Z.
contacts, sms, photos etc arent a problem.
its just the games! well, not just any games, the kairosoft ones. i dont want too lose all my hard work on those little things!!
anyone able to help?
neither device is rooted
Desire Z is running 2.3.3 (stock)
S3 is running 4.0.4
i tried using a program via pc called "wondershare mobilego for android" but it didnt transfer the saved games. same with "moborobo" (it has the option, but only for rooted devices!)
i also tried transferring via sd card, and that didnt work either D=
i was told mybackup pro would work - fail
i've seen many people suggest titanium backup in my searches - however i have heard that it will only back up game data if the device is rooted
i am happy to root the s3 if needed to install the data (providing i can find a simple guide XD - i like to think i am pretty tech savvy, but this is just something i havent done yet!)
i've searched for hours already and from my understanding, both (?) devices have to be rooted.
however, i have seen (unless i misunderstood) that if i root my Desire Z to do the backup, i will lose my data anyway (before i backup that is).
is this true? or am i understanding this wrong?
p.s sorry if i posted in the wrong forum. wasn't sure which one :/
You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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Good Q
i need know the same thing!! but whit a G note and a s3 ;P
gagdude said:
You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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according to (sorry cant post links yet)
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
and
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision:_CyanogenMod
i will lose my data
or am i missing something?
[sorry, new to the whole rooting/flashing etc so trying to figure it all out ]
Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
vx117 said:
Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
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Thanks for clarifying
However it is my understanding that you need to root your phone in order for Titanium to be able to back up your game saves
So. My question is... does rooting cause you too lose data because that would defeat the purpose for me
No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
NIMBAH said:
No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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Michael_P said:
All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
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ok, so to recap...
(sorry guys, just want to make sure i've got it straight in my head before i do anything!! i'm not ignorant, i swear )
i can root my desire z using this method: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
(can someone confirm if i need to downgrade my firmware? across various tuts i've read they all say something different - or nothing at all! currently running 2.3.3)
install Titanium Backup and backup all my game saves
THEN
root my S3 (still need to google an easy to understand method, but if you know a simple one let me know )
install Titanium and restore my game saves :fingers-crossed:
AND in this process, i won't lose my data?
NOTE: neither device has and ANY modification, both are completely stock at this point in time.
p.s i had someone mention to me that i need to unlock my bootloader to root the device, and unlocking the bootloader will cause data loss. is this true?
Anyone able to confirm above post???
Would really like to get my games transferred if it's possible
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Hi, I got myself an android phone 5 days ago and i want to learn how to use it properly so i search everything about androids phone and i think this is the best site among other sites to post this question.
1)Transferring SD partition
At first, i didn't know what is root and after learning it, i rooted my phone cause it required in order to increase my memory. I recently bought i new one which is 32GB and i already partition it(using minitool partition wizard) and i was wondering how to transfer all my installed data , phone data and my previous SD to my new one. If i simply copy paste it how about my installed app on my phone? will it cause my app to stop working? if i use titanium back up,can you show me step by step how to use it.
2)Rom manager or Goomanager (custom ROM)
I heard a lot of people saying "Do not use it","too dangerous,too risky","might brick your phone" (i don't even get it, you'll just have to follow the instruction or procedure right?)
-stock Rom and custom Rom
what so different about them? (i know for the fact that custom Rom updates quickly)but i need more information.
-what makes you want to install custom Rom, is it worth it?
-custom Rom can save battery life,make it faster,can play heavy games etc... but HOW? is that mean stock Rom drains more battery( my phone cant even survive one night), cant play heavy game or makes you lag?
-what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
-if i installed custom rom, will it cause my phone any problems? like app stop working?
-will it use up my ram or rom memory?
-why bother change another custom rom if you'll just use the popular ones?
-What else can you do on custom rom?
3) Clockworkmod recovery and Titanium back up
-Whats the different about them?
They say clockworkmod is like cloning your phone when you back up
They say Titanium back up all apps and data is like the same as cloning your phone too right or not? so whats the difference?
what should i use?
when backing up to install new custom rom, what should i choose? they say if you using titanium back up might cause some serious problem.
4)Recommend or important app
what should i install to improve my phone? like cleaner,battery save (there many kinds, i want to know which is the best)
5) Any advice for new android user
Kindly answer at least one of my noob questions that is easily to understand.
THANK YOU in advance.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
RoberGalarga said:
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
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Thank you for the quick reply.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha - got tired of iphone 5 so i switch to samsung galaxy since its new, ive got to be careful.
what ways can can your phone be brick? so that i could avoid it.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it). what do you mean by "if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it"? are you saying if i want to revert it back to stock rom?
can you explain more clearly about question no.3 i still didn't get it.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add) - can you explain it like giving me examples? what examples of crap usually add? if i really did installed a custom rom, what are not from the stock are now on new rom. wont it effect my phone app data?
other said that if you installed a custom rom it might get brick.(even if the instruction followed carefully)
so what should i use to back up my phone in order to install custom rom and how? what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
how can i sure if the custom rom is suited for my phone? cyanogenmod the most popular custom rom, people said it can slow or cause problems too.
how much memory is required on installing custom rom.
should i use rom manager or goomanager?
-difference between clockworkmod recovery( and its functions) and Titanium Backup
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
"Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data" data-did you mean data from phone too? like contacts etc... if i use titanium backup and reset my phone, will it return to when i bought it? i was wondering if it will delete some icons like gallery icon youtube icon etc...because my phone is rooted.
if i use clockworkmod recovery, will it return to the way it is? some say dont use it cause it have a lot of problems.
"I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition." so i should put all my installed app to my phone and then remove my sd card and copy all the files, cache to my new one. is that it?
Recommend or important app to improve my phone
my phone cant survive even a day. sometimes if i play games it sudden close itself and lag. if i install custom rom,can it solve my problems?
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
iamareebjamal said:
Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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Samsung Galaxy S4
:good: BTW, never heard of S4 lagging but you can try Greenify app.
And why do you need to expand memory?
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
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iamareebjamal said:
Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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when i bought samsung(rooted), i got free huawei ascend y210d (y210-200) yet to be rooted though(thats why iam asking about sd partition in advance), when i use poot.akp from this site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204259.
I got this error:
2012 giantpune
[+] opened device
[+] Set logging mode
[+] Resolved symbols
[+] Mapped 0x10000000
[+] Hooked 0xc02fcf6c
[-] Error running kernel-mode code
[-] Failed to clean up our mess
[-] Current && current != last + 1: 0000ffff 0000ffff
[-] Haxx has run its coarse. Reboot the device to play again
A demon materialized while pooting. Error code: 87
su binary was not written
You need to restart your device
Qijos said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
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1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
freezcool said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
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1. Move your installed apps by using link2sd, or u can also move it by using ROM toolbox. only the installed apps that u thinks u should move. for Video, Music, Pictures, etc. u can move them by a simple 'cut' 'paste' method.
3. Yup, remember to backup all ur data first in Titanium before u download n install new ROM..
Hello! I have a little experience using computers from late 1995 Year, and from year 2000 I am using also Linux from time to time, and very rare but it was a delight freeBSD. I have no experience on Android and MacOs.
Now, I all my family (father, mother, girlfriend and I) changed the phones on Android which is Linux based, but for ARM processors.
Anyway, I have played a little with Android 4 x86 on my laptop.
Please considering that I am new in the Android sutff.
From, my point of view, a Android Smartphone is just a little computer like an raspberry pi / pandaboard / beagle board.
So, a mini computer with an Arm processor running a very small and tiny operating system max 8 Gb, when on my gentoo install I had been using about 30-40 Gb. I know, the size can be affected by the compiling flags but anyway. Please corecct me if I am wrong.
Now, on all my system I had, from my experience I did 2 Backups, like this:
My laptop is backed-up on the External Hardisk number 1, and the External Hardisk number 1 is backed-up on the External Hardisk number 2.
So, as it is a good practice to have a backup handy, I keep 2 backups in 2 different location in case of hardware failure / water flood etc. Some of the files I need are backed up in the cloud, on the internet.
I use to make IMAGES of the Operating System partition, and of the mbr , and of the partition table, with software like Acronis True Image, Paragon, DriveImage XML, Norton Ghost, Clone Zilla.
When I had to do data recovery I did an Acronis "sector-by-sector" approach image of the hardisk, and I recovered files from that image.
Can you guys please introduce me please on the android field?
I assume that maybe I will need to get root on one or two phones, and one phone need's to be unlocked from the carrier.
Before doing this I would like to make a full backup of the phones.
1) How can I make a FULL backup of the android phones? In this moment my mother phone is a samsung galaxy mini2 Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 s6500 and mine is Sony Xperia L
2)
a) If I will "unlock" the phone from the carrier (locked on orange, but i wish to use also Vodafone, I tim, I wind, moviestar, o2 etc)
b) If I will "root" the phone to gain administrator acces on it
After step A) and B) if I will restore the original backup, the phone will be "locked" back to Orange, and "un-rooted", or it will be "unlocked" and "un-rooted"?
3) Instead of having an hardisk like computer have, I guess the smartphone is using an "usb-stick/sd-card/ssdhdd"-like memory for storage of the operating system, so how can I see the partition table, the mbr, on the device?
Thank you in advance!
In my experience the best backup apps available require root. So I would recommend unlocking and rooting the phone first, get all the apps you wish to use installed, then use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup. This backup will include everything including the current unlocked rooted status, and can be restored using the same software. I also reccomend titanium backup for app backups, which includes user defined settings for each app. There are free and paid versions of each and both work equally well. Both apps, Titanium Backup Root, and Clockwork Manager are available for install from the play store.
Thank you for your feedback, but I wish to backup before unlocking, I will root the phone only as a last resort.
It could be possible to need the phone locked up, if there will be warranty problems.
I am currently reading about Odin, next will be CWM and TWRP, as I am not familiar with those "tools" and I don't know for what are they used for.
As I learned by now, with odin I can go back to an old firmware. But first I need to learn how to back it up in this state, locked, and un-rooted.
After I have read, read, read, and read again a lot of posts, blogs, forums, it seems that If I wish to backup the Stock Rom, I need to do root on the device. But if I will "root" the device, make backup, change rom, then recover the stock rom from backup (which is in the rooted stage), can I UN-ROOT it again?
Yes. Most phones have unroot options available. Alternatively, flashing stock rom to a rooted phone using odin etc will be in unrooted state. Stock firmware will also return the bootloader and recovery( which is what cwm and twrp are btw) to stck as well.
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After I have read, read, read, and read again a lot of posts, blogs, forums, it seems that If I wish to backup the Stock Rom, I need to do root on the device. But if I will "root" the device, make backup, change rom, then recover the stock rom from backup (which is in the rooted stage), can I UN-ROOT it again?
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I don't know which phone(s) you have, but let's say you root your phone. You can then install ClockworkMod Recovery which allows you to flash custom ROMs and make full NAND backups (backups of the entire system partition), i.e you can backup whole ROMs. If you're on a custom ROM and you want to go back to a previous ROM, then just restore your NAND backup from Recovery and voila! Your phone will look and behave exactly like it did before you flashed the other ROM, and all SMS', phone records and apps will be there. Sure, it'll still be rooted, but simply open SuperSU (if that's the root app you'll be using), go to settings and tap "un-root". Done.
So..
- Make a typical backup of stuff, like moving important things to your computer etc. since accidents happen.
- Root and install Recovery
- Make a NAND backup in Recovery
- Flash a custom ROM if you want to
When you want to go back to stock:
- Boot into Recovery
- Restore your NAND backup
- Reboot and you're done
- Un-root if you'd like to
Tip: Store your NAND backup on your SD card and not on the internal storage in case you ever do a complete wipe of the internal storage or something happens to your phone and you lose your backup.
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I tried to root the phone with some software found in this forum ( SuperOneClick ) but did not worked.
I tooked the phone to a service and Unlocked the phone from the carrier network.
I asked if the phone will be rooted after the unlock, and they told:
PhoneService: "No, but do you wish to be rooted?"
Me:"How is better and safe, rooted or unrooted?"
PhoneService: "You have the advantage for example that you can move the aplications to card, but is safe to have the phone unrooted"
Me: "If it is possible please root the phone"
PhoneService: "oky, give us 30 minutes"
After 30 minutes (I took a walking), they unlocked the phone but said that rooting the phone will take more time, so I not rooted the phone.
As the phone dosen't need neccesary to be rooted, as I have no aplication in it which require this (there is only 2 apps, Opera browser and Copy To Sim / Import contact to Sim), and I don't desire to install more apps on it as only my mother is using it, I will leave the phone unrooted.
I wished only to have a Backup of the rom, just in case something will go wrong, to restore the phone back to the warrany service if there is this need, but as long the phone can be locked be back again, there is no such need to root it.
Guys, thank you very much for the input, really appreciated!
How about a adb backup? Using adb tools. Try search on Google for it. If I remember correctly, root is not needed.