Hello,
I'm new here and recently bought a live with walkman, my first android phone.
However, I'm running short on space and so I'm looking into rooting.
But before attempting anything I would like to ask a few questions a bout it.
I'm planning on using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit, which seems pretty straightforward. The thing is that I'm not sure
what to do before or after attempting this, the closest 'guide' I found for this was the following thread:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
It explains you how to back up your files so you don't lose stuff, but it's quite old, so is it still applicable?
Second question, the live is getting an ice cream sandwich update late march, can I still upgrade to it using doomlord's method,
and/or if necessary using his unroot kit?
I'm quite excited about android 4.0, but is the upgrade possible or even necessary with (perhaps better) roms out there?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389501&highlight=ice+cream+sandwich
This topic goes over this, but I want to be sure...
On the same note, if I just unlock my phone without using any custom Roms, would I still be able to use go launcher?
Thirdly, some of the articles I read listed tethering and screenshot taking as benefits of rooting, but my walkman is already
capable of doing these, or at least should be. Is it still worthwhile to root for this?
And finally, the main reason why I want to root my phone. I'm using apps2sd at the moment to get as much space in my
internal memory as I can right now, but it is only capable
of transferring some applications partially. As I've read it, rooting allows you to transfer most applications to your sd, but
does it also allow for a bigger part to be transferred? Thus allowing you to install all the applications you want instead of
having a hard time deciding what app is essential and what not.
I also want to delete some of the bloatware that came with the device...
I guess that's all for now, I'm really anxious at the moment to see what my device is capable of.
Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes, English isn't my main laguage and I loved the noob register video
Oh, and thank you for reading through all of this if you've made it this far
ok first of all rooting will give your live a super power to do anything inside system so rooting is awesome,
You can do more things that unrooted phone can't do like
1] Can use titanium back up to backup apps and its configured settings
2] Can modify system files for looks and performance
3] and can you CPU boosters to overclock underclock CPU can use sd-ext for external SD as phone memory and much more...................
Second you can root unroot your live with this,so don't worry
Root Unroot Toolkit
Third i have unlocked boot loader of my XMP (SK17i) but the above method of rooting doesn't require unlocked boot loaders.But its up to you whether to unloack bootloader or not as it will void your warranty....
About ICS so yes you can get it anyhow after rooting unlocking bootloader and using other roms don't worry...
You can use Link2sd for getting extra phone storage space after rooting
for more information search the threads on xda
So after doing a lot more reading after the last time I posted here 2 days ago, I made myself this checklist of things I have/want to do.
But before I do this, I have these questions:
- Is this the right way to do it. I may have forgotten something or may have used an outdated guide…
- If I succeed in doing this, but am, for whatever reason, unhappy about the result, will the unroot give me back my untouched phone, or would it still be detectable that I tempered with it?
- I’m having a hard time deciding what to do whit the partitioning of the sd card. Mainly because I haven’t found a guide (yet) that explains what everything is used for. As I understand it, you delete everything on it, create a new primary FAT32 partition (for a 16gb card), which you use as you would your original sd card. But I don’t yet understand whether to use ext2 or swap system or both, as I do not yet understand what they are meant to do. Is the ext2 used to store the applications and act as a second internal storage and the swap system as extra memory for the phone? I’m still reading but haven’t found an answer yet :/
EDIT: just found this:
http://www.diy-computer-repairs.com/partition-sd-card-android-installation/
- Forgot one thing. The article on partitioning from xda mentions you have to remove your sd card from your phone before partitioning, but can this be done as well by leaving it in your phone?
How to backup, root and install custom roms for your live with walkman?
0. Creating SD partition
- Backup everything on the sd card
- Download and install “MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition” on your computer
- Delete the old partitions on your sd card
- Create a new FAT/FAT32 primary partition that will be the “new sd card”
- Create ext2 or swap file system with the unallocated space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVK-tJe8pXE&feature=related
1. Pre-instal back-up
- Backup contacts to gmail cloud
- Use program like mybackup pro to backup other data
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
2. Actual rooting
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...oting-your-android-phone/#install-custom-roms
- Install SDK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
- Use DooMLoRD’s Easy Rooting Toolkit v4 to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
3. Post-Rooting
3.1 Using Stock Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/topics/features-2/best-apps-for-rooted-users-series/
- Backup using Titaniumbackup
- Uninstall bloatware using Rootexplorer or es file explorer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425461&highlight=walkman
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14002417
3.2 Using Custom Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
- Install Rom Manager
- Create a recovery image using Rom Manager
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
- Make Backup of current Rom using Rom Manager
- Download and install custom Rom to root folder SD (Cyanogen?)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-7-makes-my-android-phone-feel-future-proof/
- Flash custom rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-phone-with-rom-manager-full-backup-restore/
4. Unrooting
- (If using custom rom, restore backup of stock Rom using Rom manager)
- Use DooMLorD’s Unroot kit to return to original state
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18879974#post18879974
No one?:/
Then I'll just try it out myself hopefully I won't brick my phone
i also have live with walkman which i bought few days back.
i also have some questions
i want to root the device using doomlord.
1. Since on rooting my warranty will void but since i can unroot the device. Will unrooting make it same as packed .
2. also after rooting i can uninstall the SE apps that i dont need can SE service center can detect that i have rooted my phone.
Ok, I've been able to root my device, which didn't take long, and I don't know what I was afraid of. I'm going ahead and I'm going to download titaniumbackup and rootexplorer to backup/freeze and use rom manager to create an image and a complete backup and then I'm off exploring
@abhishekcal: As I understand it, unrooting will, providing everything goes as planned, will give you back your stock phone, but while it's rooted SE might detect this and you may lose your warranty, but then again, I'm not completely sure, so you better wait for an answer from a senior member
thanks for answering my query since SE have released the new update did u tried the update and rooting again.
Please answer these also:
1. DID u do only root or also use any other modifiaction like custom rom and unlocking boot.
2. if after the rooting i delete all the system apps can i get then back using a backup so that it remain undetected that it has been rooted.
Related
EDIT: simplified and updated with more questions. Over 100 views and so many unanswered questions!
UPDATE:
1- What is it that you backup when you backup your phone? Is it the content of the internal and SD card in one file? Or multiple files? Is this what's called a ROM?
Because last time I checked ROM means Read Only Memory, and my internal and Sd card are read and write.... ssssooooooooooo confusing.
1.1 Where's the OS (Android) installed? On the internal memory and on another partition?
2- I got my phone over at Koodo mobile. It's got their company name on the home screen. To avoid warranty problems:
2.1 Is this going to be copied over if I make a backup of the phone?
2.2 So many people suggest to just download a ROM of the stock version I got in my phone... would I have to find a Koodo ROM for the Optimus One or will any android 2.2 ROM do the trick.
2.3 Does putting a custom ROM or android 2.3 leave traces somewhere on the phone, even of you put back the original backup ROM?
3- How do you know if you made a proper backup and the size it should be?
Many thanks.
22vin:
- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
From the internal and SD card? All into one file?
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
Does KDZ make backups images of the phones, or is it only used to update?
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
So.... Custom recovery is ran from the phone and used for flashing KDZ is ran from Windows and used for flashing too?
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
I take that as a GPU overclocking YES.
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
(FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
MoonQuake said:
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
[Updated poster N00b level: 3/10]
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
[Updated poster N00b level: 4/10]
Here are the questions: (FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
[Updated poster N00b level: 7/10] WARNING! N00b warning! Proceed carefully.
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
[Updated poster N00b level: 8/10] WARNING! Critical level! Prepare your N00b bio suit if you dare answer!
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
[Updated poster N00b level: 10/10] ALERT! Shutting down the app to prevent lack of knowledge damage from noobish user. Exiting...
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
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- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
Thanks for the answers 22vin.
The overly careful person that I am asks:
- How do you call the backup of the whole phone data?
- When you do this backup, does it create 1 file, or multiple files? I ask this because I still don't understand how these phones work. Are they like gaming roms and emulators where you get a rom (copy of the cartridge) and you can also add other roms to change the way it works? Like a mod?
I got about 50 other questions, but it's mainly because I don't exactly know what ROMs are in smartphones.
It would be awesome if somebody could point me towards a "Everything you need to know about android phones and custom ROMS" for dummies. I understand how to use it, but not how it works in the inside so that I can safely go ahead with flashing and stuff...
Does this make sense? Tech stuff about the way the OS works and what is a ROM and a kernel... so that I know what I'm doing.
OP updated.
100 views later and just one reply (thanks to 22vin btw) made me wonder if my questions were clear enough.
*ahem* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
Sent from my LG-P500
Thanks for the links, terra. I actually read all these pages already.
Finally re-read the whole dictionary page, and in addition to some other info I read, I could make sense of a lot more info.
The general info page uses terms that is not covered in the dictionary/terms page so a lot of info I can't understand.
Like the info about what the kernel does and why change it. Leads to a wikipedia generic kernel page.
NAND actually allows for creating a 1:1 copy of the phone's content. Probably a copy of the internal memory. Another guess is that the OS is also on that partition but I can't find that info.
About the SD card, it seems to allow the copy of some native apps.
Only thing that's not clear is if it leaves ANY traces on the phone after a recover from a backup.
The Os is no stored in the internet memory and sdcard, it's somewhere else you don't need to know about.
Yes, a Nandroid backup restores your settings before you flash a new ROM. You need to unroot it to make your carrier believe nothing has happened. Another way, you can flash kdz which will completely reset your phone back into into the state you bought it(minus the carrier installed apps).
You only can overclock CPU, not GPU.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, terra.
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
Sent from LGE XDA phone
dax4182 said:
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
Sent from LGE XDA phone
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It varies from country to country, carriers to carriers, phone manufacturer to phone manufacturer . Just a precaution.
Sent from my LG-P500
My x10MP is giving a warning it's running low on internal storage space.
Is there a way to to transfer apps to the SD card w/o rooting the phone?
Any other suggestions on how to free up space in the internal storage?.
TIA,
Mike
i'm afraid u cant without rooting ur phone. or you should be running 2.2+. u have to root to use link2sd.
Thanks. I don't think the x10MP has been updated beyond 2.1, so 2.2+ is not an option.
You could use a custom rom. Even the 2.3.7 versions work really well nowadays. Hard to install without rooting though...
Good luck!
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
Rooting is pretty much essential if you want to do any sort of fiddling on your phone.
If you haven't rooted yours and you're running low on internal storage, I am willing to bet you've got lots of app's that came pre-installed that you don't need. I rooted mine and removed loads of stuff I had no use for: Timescape, the neo reader, the radio, etc. And I freed up a lot of memory.
Just be careful if you're removing bloatware though, it's all too easy to remove something you actually need. It's worth looking on here for a safelist of app's you can remove.
mike_1111 said:
My x10MP is giving a warning it's running low on internal storage space.
Is there a way to to transfer apps to the SD card w/o rooting the phone?
Any other suggestions on how to free up space in the internal storage?.
TIA,
Mike
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You don't know what you miss until you stay on the android 2.1 my friend!
I was like regenerated when I installed custom roms on my mini - not only the install of apps on Sd card, but things like overclocking of the processor, freeing more RAM memory would have been impossible without rooting and a custom ROM 2.3.7.
Just think about it - how faster is working a phone with a 600mHz processor, overclocked to 787mHz!
Thanks all for the replies.
I am hesitating to take the rooting + custom rom route, since if something goes wrong I'll be left with an unusable phone.
For the most point, if anything goes wrong, you can simply re-install the official firmware by using SEUS. You'll lose all your personal data on the phone (but not the SD card though, that's safe) so you should make sure you backup before you start doing anything.
You have to do something quite astonishingly silly to hard-brick your phone (basically breaking it so much only SE can repair it) so as long as you take your time and pay close attention to the process, you should be fine.
mike_1111 said:
Thanks all for the replies.
I am hesitating to take the rooting + custom rom route, since if something goes wrong I'll be left with an unusable phone.
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Make a backup of all your SMS and Contacts using My Phone Explorer. there are a few apps on the market doing backup of applications too, but I'm not sure whether they can backup apps from non rooted phones. After backing up, go ahead through the root process. You will love the CM7 ROM, don't worry! It's far better than the 2.1 Stock Eclair! Just Look at this:
My Mini is far better using CM7 than much more powerful on the hardware point of view other phones. With some other improvements I even achieved a result of 1444! So think about it.
The CPU on my Mini is working at 787mHz, while your stock one works at 600mHz.
Thanks ticklefish & novicebg.
Can you please provide links to:
1. Detailed step-by-step instructions on rooting the x10MP, and
2. Detailed step-by-step Instructions on how to restore the original SE 2.1 ROM, in case something goes wrong?.
TIA,
Mike
mike_1111 said:
Thanks ticklefish & novicebg.
Can you please provide links to:
1. Detailed step-by-step instructions on rooting the x10MP, and
2. Detailed step-by-step Instructions on how to restore the original SE 2.1 ROM, in case something goes wrong?.
TIA,
Mike
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Use the search button has more than 1 thread with this!
For the rooting: download SuperOneClick, open it press Root and follow the instructions.
For flashing Kernel and unlocking bootloader follow the instructions in this topic, the first post and the links inside the instructions:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068553
For going back to stock ROM - it's easy, download SEUS from SE site, install, open and follow the instructions, as you choose to install firmware although you already have the latest version.
And last but not least - don't be so lazy! We all didn't know what to do here in the beginning, but yet we found what we needed. And you want everything without any effort.
thanks xparia & novicebg.
I wasn't trying to be lazy, just it seems I'm not the first to consider installing a custom ROM, so it seems useful to learn from the experience others have already gained, and summarized as to-do list.
Anyway, this is a list of x10mp roms:
http://xperiaminicyanogen.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/list-of-xperia-x10-mini-roms/
Hi,
sorry for this post but i had to!
Hello! I have a little experience using computers from late 1995 Year, and from year 2000 I am using also Linux from time to time, and very rare but it was a delight freeBSD. I have no experience on Android and MacOs.
Now, I all my family (father, mother, girlfriend and I) changed the phones on Android which is Linux based, but for ARM processors.
Anyway, I have played a little with Android 4 x86 on my laptop.
Please considering that I am new in the Android sutff.
From, my point of view, a Android Smartphone is just a little computer like an raspberry pi / pandaboard / beagle board.
So, a mini computer with an Arm processor running a very small and tiny operating system max 8 Gb, when on my gentoo install I had been using about 30-40 Gb. I know, the size can be affected by the compiling flags but anyway. Please corecct me if I am wrong.
Now, on all my system I had, from my experience I did 2 Backups, like this:
My laptop is backed-up on the External Hardisk number 1, and the External Hardisk number 1 is backed-up on the External Hardisk number 2.
So, as it is a good practice to have a backup handy, I keep 2 backups in 2 different location in case of hardware failure / water flood etc. Some of the files I need are backed up in the cloud, on the internet.
I use to make IMAGES of the Operating System partition, and of the mbr , and of the partition table, with software like Acronis True Image, Paragon, DriveImage XML, Norton Ghost, Clone Zilla.
When I had to do data recovery I did an Acronis "sector-by-sector" approach image of the hardisk, and I recovered files from that image.
Can you guys please introduce me please on the android field?
I assume that maybe I will need to get root on one or two phones, and one phone need's to be unlocked from the carrier.
Before doing this I would like to make a full backup of the phones.
1) How can I make a FULL backup of the android phones? In this moment my mother phone is a samsung galaxy mini2 Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 s6500 and mine is Sony Xperia L
2)
a) If I will "unlock" the phone from the carrier (locked on orange, but i wish to use also Vodafone, I tim, I wind, moviestar, o2 etc)
b) If I will "root" the phone to gain administrator acces on it
After step A) and B) if I will restore the original backup, the phone will be "locked" back to Orange, and "un-rooted", or it will be "unlocked" and "un-rooted"?
3) Instead of having an hardisk like computer have, I guess the smartphone is using an "usb-stick/sd-card/ssdhdd"-like memory for storage of the operating system, so how can I see the partition table, the mbr, on the device?
Thank you in advance!
In my experience the best backup apps available require root. So I would recommend unlocking and rooting the phone first, get all the apps you wish to use installed, then use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup. This backup will include everything including the current unlocked rooted status, and can be restored using the same software. I also reccomend titanium backup for app backups, which includes user defined settings for each app. There are free and paid versions of each and both work equally well. Both apps, Titanium Backup Root, and Clockwork Manager are available for install from the play store.
Thank you for your feedback, but I wish to backup before unlocking, I will root the phone only as a last resort.
It could be possible to need the phone locked up, if there will be warranty problems.
I am currently reading about Odin, next will be CWM and TWRP, as I am not familiar with those "tools" and I don't know for what are they used for.
As I learned by now, with odin I can go back to an old firmware. But first I need to learn how to back it up in this state, locked, and un-rooted.
After I have read, read, read, and read again a lot of posts, blogs, forums, it seems that If I wish to backup the Stock Rom, I need to do root on the device. But if I will "root" the device, make backup, change rom, then recover the stock rom from backup (which is in the rooted stage), can I UN-ROOT it again?
Yes. Most phones have unroot options available. Alternatively, flashing stock rom to a rooted phone using odin etc will be in unrooted state. Stock firmware will also return the bootloader and recovery( which is what cwm and twrp are btw) to stck as well.
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doctortonic said:
After I have read, read, read, and read again a lot of posts, blogs, forums, it seems that If I wish to backup the Stock Rom, I need to do root on the device. But if I will "root" the device, make backup, change rom, then recover the stock rom from backup (which is in the rooted stage), can I UN-ROOT it again?
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I don't know which phone(s) you have, but let's say you root your phone. You can then install ClockworkMod Recovery which allows you to flash custom ROMs and make full NAND backups (backups of the entire system partition), i.e you can backup whole ROMs. If you're on a custom ROM and you want to go back to a previous ROM, then just restore your NAND backup from Recovery and voila! Your phone will look and behave exactly like it did before you flashed the other ROM, and all SMS', phone records and apps will be there. Sure, it'll still be rooted, but simply open SuperSU (if that's the root app you'll be using), go to settings and tap "un-root". Done.
So..
- Make a typical backup of stuff, like moving important things to your computer etc. since accidents happen.
- Root and install Recovery
- Make a NAND backup in Recovery
- Flash a custom ROM if you want to
When you want to go back to stock:
- Boot into Recovery
- Restore your NAND backup
- Reboot and you're done
- Un-root if you'd like to
Tip: Store your NAND backup on your SD card and not on the internal storage in case you ever do a complete wipe of the internal storage or something happens to your phone and you lose your backup.
Note: Be sure to quote this post if you want a reply from me. I'm not usually in the Q&A section, and i'll be notified by Tapatalk on my phone when you quote this post. That way i'll see your reply, and i can then reply faster again.
I tried to root the phone with some software found in this forum ( SuperOneClick ) but did not worked.
I tooked the phone to a service and Unlocked the phone from the carrier network.
I asked if the phone will be rooted after the unlock, and they told:
PhoneService: "No, but do you wish to be rooted?"
Me:"How is better and safe, rooted or unrooted?"
PhoneService: "You have the advantage for example that you can move the aplications to card, but is safe to have the phone unrooted"
Me: "If it is possible please root the phone"
PhoneService: "oky, give us 30 minutes"
After 30 minutes (I took a walking), they unlocked the phone but said that rooting the phone will take more time, so I not rooted the phone.
As the phone dosen't need neccesary to be rooted, as I have no aplication in it which require this (there is only 2 apps, Opera browser and Copy To Sim / Import contact to Sim), and I don't desire to install more apps on it as only my mother is using it, I will leave the phone unrooted.
I wished only to have a Backup of the rom, just in case something will go wrong, to restore the phone back to the warrany service if there is this need, but as long the phone can be locked be back again, there is no such need to root it.
Guys, thank you very much for the input, really appreciated!
How about a adb backup? Using adb tools. Try search on Google for it. If I remember correctly, root is not needed.
hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
mina.ed.2010 said:
hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
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Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
es0tericcha0s said:
Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
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here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
mina.ed.2010 said:
here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
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Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
es0tericcha0s said:
Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
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first of all, i really appreciate your guidance, as i was really confused between huge stuff on google...thanks for your help...
so, that adb commands method isn't far different from stock android app2sd..right??
anyway, to take the decision, should i go for rooting?? and what is the best method??
i found apps, that needs no pc or usb, like root master, framaroot, maestro and poot, and usb debugging method like vroot,
one click root, and dozens of other names...all i know is just names..as i told you i'm just a beginner
so what method should i go into??
but first and all, should i go for rooting, i feel i'm still hesitated
as i mentioned, that's my 1st ever android phone for only 2 weeks and i don't wanna take a decision like this in a hurry
so, if the worst scenario happened like software breakdown, would it be to download stock firmware??
and if a hardware damage like a crash or screen damage or whatever, is it guaranteed to download firmware to
unroot it n to get it back to waranty??..i feel i'm still a little confused
thanks again for your help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764341
Has most of the info you need there.
I'm all about root. But I might be a bit biased being a huge fan of making my phone better and I root/upgrade/customize phones for a living, but there's no way I would put up with the limitations of a non rooted system. But like I said, if you are hestitant, then download the original firmware, read the guides, and watch some videos on how to return an Xperia device back to stock and the problems that might arise from rooting won't be that big of a deal since it takes about 10 minutes to restore the phone if you have everything set up (firmware downloaded and drivers and flash tool installed).
I want to root my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 but from the instructions I've found on the web, it seems I have to downgrade it first to Kitkat by flashing the Kitkat firmware so essentially wiping the device, and then upgrading afterwards. However, I want to keep my apps and settings as is, I just want to root it so I can remove some of the pre-installed apps and also so I can install Xposed modules and a proper AdBloker that isn't reliant on a VPN workaround. It's currently running on the latest stock firmware update from Sony which is Lollipop 14.6.A.1.236.
If possible, I also want to install recovery on it so if I decide to flash a different ROM later, I can.
surashu said:
I want to root my Xperia Z Ultra C6833 but from the instructions I've found on the web, it seems I have to downgrade it first to Kitkat by flashing the Kitkat firmware so essentially wiping the device, and then upgrading afterwards. However, I want to keep my apps and settings as is, I just want to root it so I can remove some of the pre-installed apps and also so I can install Xposed modules and a proper AdBloker that isn't reliant on a VPN workaround. It's currently running on the latest stock firmware update from Sony which is Lollipop 14.6.A.1.236.
If possible, I also want to install recovery on it so if I decide to flash a different ROM later, I can.
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i have a C6806 but to simply root you do not have to downgrade..some may not prefer this but Kingroot works to give root functionality. From what I have seen for the C6806 to put the twrp 3.0 (2.8 does not work on 5.1.1) I had to downgrade i.e flash the KK stock rom then upgrade then unlock bootloader then flash Twrp 3.0. But at first I was able to root using kingroot (pc version) without doing any of the above
and I first used kingroot because I wanted to backup the TA (note restoring TA later on locks the bootloader back so if you want to have the relocking done, restoring TA is a good way to do it)
btw the various things you would like to have done is a lot bigger deal than the apps you have (why not just back them up?..would think restoring those apps and data is far less of a headache than the other functionalities you want introduced)
of course for backing up apps with data you may need root..so use kingroot
the cwm/twrp 2.8 dual recovery here (not for 5.1.1)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647492
see this and the first 2-3 pages of the twrp 3.0 thread that the message belongs to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65570030&postcount=20
the twrp 3.0 here for 5.1.1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ent/twrp-recovery-2-8-7-0-2016-02-03-t3307043
mac231us said:
i have a C6806 but to simply root you do not have to downgrade..some may not prefer this but Kingroot works to give root functionality. From what I have seen for the C6806 to put the twrp 3.0 (2.8 does not work on 5.1.1) I had to downgrade i.e flash the KK stock rom then upgrade then unlock bootloader then flash Twrp 3.0. But at first I was able to root using kingroot (pc version) without doing any of the above
and I first used kingroot because I wanted to backup the TA (note restoring TA later on locks the bootloader back so if you want to have the relocking done, restoring TA is a good way to do it)
btw the various things you would like to have done is a lot bigger deal than the apps you have (why not just back them up?..would think restoring those apps and data is far less of a headache than the other functionalities you want introduced)
of course for backing up apps with data you may need root..so use kingroot
the cwm/twrp 2.8 dual recovery here (not for 5.1.1)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647492
see this and the first 2-3 pages of the twrp 3.0 thread that the message belongs to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65570030&postcount=20
the twrp 3.0 here for 5.1.1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ent/twrp-recovery-2-8-7-0-2016-02-03-t3307043
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Thank you for the detailed reply! You hit the exact points I wanted to talk about. I forgot to mention my intention of backing up the TA partition too so thanks for that! Which tool did you use to backup your TA partition and if I decide to just just use Kingroot (aka just root it without anything else), can I remap the internal emulated "SD card" to my external one? That's one of my major motivations for rooting because I'm starting to run out of space due to some apps not being able to write to my external so they all dump their data onto the internal emulated one.
surashu said:
Thank you for the detailed reply! You hit the exact points I wanted to talk about. I forgot to mention my intention of backing up the TA partition too so thanks for that! Which tool did you use to backup your TA partition and if I decide to just just use Kingroot (aka just root it without anything else), can I remap the internal emulated "SD card" to my external one? That's one of my major motivations for rooting because I'm starting to run out of space due to some apps not being able to write to my external so they all dump their data onto the internal emulated one.
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TA tool
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428590
one of the first threads in the general section for the ultra z
sorry but I do not know about mapping the internal to the external (there might be something in general android cross-platform projects etc in xda)