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My battery life was very good in Mini. I used the phone for normal talking (around 30 mins) and 3-4 hrs of GPRS and battery wwas kept around 20-30% at
10PM after fully charged at 7AM. At that time the battery usage status showed something like this.
Display -40-50%
Android System 10%
Cell Standby 2-5%
Phone Idle 2-5%
Others (not remebering)-the remaining
Suddenly two days ago my battery started dischrging very fast and my full charge at 7AM came to zero at 4.30PM with similar use as stated above. But this time the battery usage shows something like this and consumption always remains highest by phone idle & cell standby parameters.
Phone Idle 40%
Cell Standby 30%
Android System 8%
Display 20%
Others - remaining
Now, my battery is draining a lot faster than it ever had two days back.
My battery had consistently been draining at around 1% per hour idle until today. Now I'm seeing it drop 5% in LESS than an hour while idle (idle meaning the screen shuts off and I don't use it).
So my question is, what do Cell Standby and Phone Idle mean? Previously they had both been 2-5% and my idle battery use was excellent. But today they both shot up to the 30-50% range and I'm thinking this may be the cause for the excessive battery drain even while the phone is sleeping.
I have not changed anything during these two days. But again to be sure I "Factory Reset" the phone and reinstalled all the software again but found the problem persisting. Moreover, during my travel to office (which takes about two hours) I find battery drain is minimum and same as my earlier days, i.e., it drains very slowly but once I enter my office hall the rate of drainage increases, But previously in the hall also the drainage rate was very low.
My queston is what may be the cause of this?
The only change which I feel is deterioration is signal level because the calls now frequently gets disrupted which was not the case earlier. Can this be the only cause for such high battery drainage ?
An exactly similar experience can be found in some other blog whose link is below ( for reference only)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tip...cell-standby-phone-idle-mean.html#post1579318
Anticipating some advice/solution for improvement from the geeks here.
Thanks
i noticed i had the same issue whenever i installed some apps from the market...i noticed in particular a data counter to screen my phone bills and Quick Profiles.
So i suggest to think abotu the last installed apps and try to remove them one by one until you find the guilty one.
Remember afer uninstall to reboot your phone or you won't notice any difference
Have you recently rooted the phone? When I did mine I found there was a shell process left running that was eating battery (but doesn't show in the battery info screen) - Turning off and on again sorted that out
Thanks for reply. I will try your advices. But today I morning I switched off my charging at 4.45 AM and now at 6.37AM I am seeing my battery at 99% ot bad. Let me see throughout the day.
Even i am experiencing this problem
Phone Idle is 59% and Cell standby 37% for me?
Now i have removed all task managers and Info apps
lets see what happens to the battery life
@acemadmav
Your advise helped me to track my problem. I also use a Data Tracker software which was refreshed at 2 min and was the cause of battery drain. Now I have set it to 30 mins and my phone is back to full battery strength. Discharge started at 7.30AM after full charge. Attended not less than 45 mins of call, an hour of GPRS and I am still at 50% at 10PM.
@tejagamer
My Phone idle & Cell Standby is still high at 30% and 25% respectively. I googled about this and found that "Phone Idle" is the state when phone uses minimum battery required to keep the electronics of the phone alive and "Cell Standby" is battery consumed for communicating with cell towers in standby mode. Finally, when battery consumption is ok the percentage used by Phone Idle & Cell Standby doesn't matter.
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parthabhatta said:
@acemadmav
Your advise helped me to track my problem. I also use a Data Tracker software which was refreshed at 2 min and was the cause of battery drain. Now I have set it to 30 mins and my phone is back to full battery strength. Discharge started at 7.30AM after full charge. Attended not less than 45 mins of call, an hour of GPRS and I am still at 50% at 10PM.
@tejagamer
My Phone idle & Cell Standby is still high at 30% and 25% respectively. I googled about this and found that "Phone Idle" is the state when phone uses minimum battery required to keep the electronics of the phone alive and "Cell Standby" is battery consumed for communicating with cell towers in standby mode. Finally, when battery consumption is ok the percentage used by Phone Idle & Cell Standby doesn't matter.
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glad to help...it's been some months i'm "testing" my X10 mini about this kind of things, so i'm getting used to track down problems on my phone
Let's collect some statistics regarding battery discharge rate when tablet suppose to be asleep, like overnight.
I'll start:
ROM - TnT lite 4.2, WiFi On, BT Off, in 10 hours 14% charge drop - 1.4% per hour.
with WiFi Off - around 1% per hour.
I was killing all apps on background before going asleep but this does not affect discharge rate too much, maybe 0.2% and as well might be just measuring error.
What is your tablet's discharge rate?
vegan 5.1.1 clean install, no additional kernel/OC tweaks
lost 30% over 6.5hr of sleep. battery usage shows very little idle time and alot of "android system". i wonder if that means something stayed awake and kept the tab from sleeping or what. o, and wifi was on and awake the whole time too
anyway to put this thing to sleep and last a few days like my HTC mytouch3g when i put it into airplane mode? that phone would drop to the lowest clock speed and sleep with very little battery drain
atb1183 said:
vegan 5.1.1 clean install, no additional kernel/OC tweaks
lost 30% over 6.5hr of sleep. battery usage shows very little idle time and alot of "android system". i wonder if that means something stayed awake and kept the tab from sleeping or what. o, and wifi was on and awake the whole time too
anyway to put this thing to sleep and last a few days like my HTC mytouch3g when i put it into airplane mode? that phone would drop to the lowest clock speed and sleep with very little battery drain
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Why not just power it all the way off? Deep sleep is essentially Off anyway, minus the bootup time.
Cold start is about 50 seconds. When starting from standby - almost instant.
It would be nice if our GTablet can go into standby and don't lose charge with that rate.
Vlad_z said:
Cold start is about 50 seconds. When starting from standby - almost instant.
It would be nice if our GTablet can go into standby and don't lose charge with that rate.
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Nice, but impossible. Just plug it in overnight. If you want it "always on" you can expect about 16 hours of standby with 4-6 hours of use mixed in. I'm so used to daily charging it doesn't even bother me anymore. Just really happy this thing goes all day on wifi without deep sleep... good enough.
Well, I am inclined to think that this is a software problem (Android OS). Xoom with HC does ok when in sleep mode. Someone say 3%-4% overnight.
Vlad_z said:
Well, I am inclined to think that this is a software problem (Android OS). Xoom with HC does ok when in sleep mode. Someone say 3%-4% overnight.
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Only way it would do that is deep sleep. As in, nearly off - everything powered down except ram, CPU halted.
That's essentially the same as putting your laptop to sleep, vs power down.
The GTab's deep sleep sucks. Not sure what's wrong with it, but it's below the level of android. So it could be a firmware issue. I'm happy with the 2-3% per hour drain when "on" but screen off, connected to wifi, able to generate alerts and alarms.
So, my interest was piqued
I use pershoot's UV/OC kernel, keep wifi on all the time, and use softlocker to make sure my gtab *never* deep sleeps. This is on Vegantab-ginger.
I installed batterymonitor widget, and am collecting data.
First interesting tidbit, my "screen off, but wifi on/not really asleep" power drain is 125mA
Given the 3650mAH rating of the battery, that gives me 29.2 hours total standby time in this state.
Working backwards, that's a drain of just under 3% per hour.
You're actually seeing MUCH WORSE than that, at 4.6% per hour (30% over 6.5 hours) so I agree with you, your software is doing something very bad. You can get nearly 50% better battery life by using gingerbread, pershoot's kernel, and keeping it from going into deep sleep
my tablet lose near 10 %
n21klin said:
my tablet lose near 10 %
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Any more details? Number of hours on standby? ROM version? Was it deep sleeping (wifi off, clock/time not updated until a few seconds after power on?)
Assuming 8 hours or so sleeping, this is much closer to the expected 1.125%/hour discharge rate for "deep" sleep, or about 90 hours total on deep sleep standby.
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Any more details? Number of hours on standby? ROM version? Was it deep sleeping (wifi off, clock/time not updated until a few seconds after power on?)
Assuming 8 hours or so sleeping, this is much closer to the expected 1.125%/hour discharge rate for "deep" sleep, or about 90 hours total on deep sleep standby.
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if that was indeed true (that you manage to get your tab to sleep for 8 hrs and only losing 10%) then i want whatever you got. I want my tab to be able to sleep for 3-4 days, even if it mean having to settle for JUST 1.0 Ghz
The lowest I've seen so far in batterymonitor widget is ~108ma draw (screen off, 214mhz clock, wifi off)... if the thing goes into "deep sleep" then batterymonitor (and everything else) stops dead, since the cpu is halted - you'd need to poke it inside to see what the load is when deep sleeping.
108mA gets you to 33 hours. To get to 72 hours you need to get the load down to about 50mA. That's the budget to keep the ram chips powered, and the on/off buttons
Battery drain with ext3 partition and S2E?
Is there a perfect way to check what's draining your battery? Recently I've been noticing that my battery consumes almost 20% of charge during night, whereas it used to only eat about 5% in my previous installation of CM7.
First install of CM 7.0.3 - Good battery life, night drain is only about 5-8%.
Second install of CM 7.0.3 - Worse battery life, night drain is about 25%.
The main difference in the second install in that I have made an ext3 partition in the sd card and I am using S2E and have moved some apps to the sd card. Will this consume more battery?
Had a look at the battery history in spare parts, and I see that the partial wake usage by Maps and K9 mail topped the list. Uninstalled both to see it they were the issue. I have Juice defender plus where I have configured data off hours from 12:30 am to 6 am. Still it drinks battery. Any thoughts?
Hello,
I've been wondering if it's possible to recalibrate how the system reads the remaining battery charge. I'm using Rage 2.8 kernel for FXP and battery life is very good (over 30h with moderate HSDPA youtube streaming, browsing etc.), but what bugs me is that it goes from 100% to 80% extremely fast, then it slows down as it reaches 0%, it can hang on 1% for an hour before it finally shuts down.
I'd like it to be somewhat linear (even if the real physical battery discharge cycle is not linear), is it possible?
Cheers!
aidennwitz said:
Hello,
I've been wondering if it's possible to recalibrate how the system reads the remaining battery charge. I'm using Rage 2.8 kernel for FXP and battery life is very good (over 30h with moderate HSDPA youtube streaming, browsing etc.), but what bugs me is that it goes from 100% to 80% extremely fast, then it slows down as it reaches 0%, it can hang on 1% for an hour before it finally shuts down.
I'd like it to be somewhat linear (even if the real physical battery discharge cycle is not linear), is it possible?
Cheers!
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Depends how you and other apps really use the phone.
I've done idle testing with screen off and no apps, the drain is simply faster at the beginning after charging and later slows down to the point where streaming youtube "eats" less power than idling at 99%. I'm not saying it really does that (because it's impossible), it's just that (I guess) the physical battery discharge curve is like this, but that doesn't really help me at all with estimating how much time I have left.
I may be wrong, but I've tested this twice now (going from 100% to 0%) and it's always faster in the beginning completely regardless of what I'm doing with the phone.
I dont want to **** on the cake but if you care about battery-life you should not use a CM-rom. I used CM-7.2 for 6 months and now switched to a stock-based rom (Spartan). The result is twice the battery-life. CM's battery consumption is horrible especially when the phone is idle. I used to lose 20% during 8h of airplane mode. Now i lose 1-2% without airplane-mode.
Actually, the battery life is just fine for me. I agree, pure CM 7.2.0 drains the battery like there's no tomorrow, but Rage kernel alleviates that by a lot.
The reason I don't use official rom mods is that I like CM a lot, and while battery life could get some more love from the devs it's certainly not that bad, especially with Rage kernel. 30h+ with normal usage, internet, browsing, youtube etc. isn't that bad.
My problem is not that the battery is drained fast, but that the percentage display goes down unevenly regardless of usage. Let's say we compare idle to idle, no airplane mode, no background apps. When the percentage is at 99% it goes down about 5% in an hour (I didn't measure it with a timer, but it's a good estimate), while when the percentage is at 20% it goes down about 1-2% in an hour.
Here s an also weird graph!
Stock Rom .62 rooted.
Check the vertical drops!
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No problems.Just weird.
Sent from one of my 4 iPads.
Ok, after deleting battery logs after fully charging the phone (although I don't know whether it was this or something else, maybe it just needed three charges) I got a linear discharge curve. Also, now it turns off at 2%.
BTW battery life on CM 7.2.0 - this time (with LAGLESS governor) it got the phone to 59 hours, which I think is really good enough. Rage kernel FTW. Of course, with LAGLESS and stock rom it'd probably reach over 70. Still, I don't need that much, and CM is great.
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After another change (switching to 2G when data transmission isn't needed) the phone eats 0.6% battery per hour. Now I really don't need stock.
Okay, I looked in the first couple of pages but I couldn't find a thread about this issue.
So, I use my One for browsing a lot these days, on Google Chrome. This is because I read a lot in the train while commuting.
Anyways, I noticed the last 2 days that the battery drops faster and this wasn't making sense. So I checked the battery drain, it says Android is consuming 25% of the battery? Is this normal? Google Chrome was 45%.
I try to have screen on half brightness only most of the time, I also have GPS off and auto sync off at all times.
By the end of the school day which is aprox 6 hours I have 50-70% of battery left, then I drain it extremely quickly again on the way home because I log on Skype and go full screen brightness +3G. By the end of the 1 hour trip home I have 30% battery left.
try enabling sleep mode in power menu will turn off data when not used.
for me HTC sense uses the most power with 26% and android system uses 7% chrome 6%
Hi, I found out that my Mate 20 Pro batteey isn't as solid as advertised. The battery keep draining in standby mode. Yesterday, it dropped 9% in 8 hours of standby mode with WiFi on. However, the first few days the battery is very great but after 10 days of usage the battery performance dropped a lot ?. May I know is the AI allocation of power based on my usage pattern or the battery is faulty?
Looks like a rogue app...check the battery usage stats or install AccuBatttery to get full details.
Might have to restart in Safe mode to confirm it's an app.
Standby with Wi-Fi should be below 1%/hr unless some background activity goes nuts on you.
Try restarting the phone, i had the issue at some point, the switch from auto app management to manual, keeping just the apps i want. After the recent update(153) i switched back to auto. There is some issue with the app management, cause sometimes i lose just 1-2% of battery during the night, but sometimes 5-7%. Now i get an avarage of 36h+ of usage, and if not charging at 30-40% i could get more.
From brand new, my mate 20 pro drains about 12-13% if left overnight, also thought that was pretty bad