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Hey all you gaming hd fans out there, just thought id let you in on a little discovery of mine.
The Foldable Bluetooth Gamepad DOES work with the HD
I got mine second hand off ebay, but heres a link to the product im talking about:
http://www.order-bulk.com/Bluetooth-Gamepad-For-Mobile-Sony-Ericsson-Nokia-Motorola-LG-Samsung.html?currency=GBP&language=en#googlebase
The first question is, does the HD fit inside the wings, which i can answer with a resounding yes, its a tight fit but with no chance of your HD falling out during a frantic button bashing session!
Its a little tricky to get working with the HD as the install disk, or this driver file:
http://www.gdbint.com.au/downloads/drivers/BGP100_v1502_Games_Included.zip
does not include the HD as a selectable phone, however using this sequence i got it installed:
added the gamepad to my bluetooth devices (not sure this is needed but it what i did)
connected my phone and laptop using a usb activesync
ran the setup.exe from the driver file and clicked a couple of next buttons and an agree
when selecting a phone chose the htc magician
then comes the bit that i had to try a couple of times, the cab runs on the HD and asks where to install, device or storage. the first time i tried device and the program wouldn't open, (an error about certification) so i tried again and installed to storage and hey presto everything worked!!
However there was one more stumbling block in my quest to play zelda on my phone, although the gamepad worked for navigating menus and such like, morphgear would recognise my clicks once i'd started playing. a quick search on google and reinstalling morphgear kicked this problem to touch however and here i am, about the play zelda: a link to the past until i run out of AAA batteries for the pad!!!
So if anybody else out there is into gaming and HD'ing then i would wholeheartedly recommend this product
I haven't noticed any difficulties while installing the driver. The gamepad works just fine, unfortunately the HD doesn't fit in the middle of the gamepad, what makes it quite inefficient, at least for me ...
on my gamepad there are two adjustable rubber grips inside the folding arms to hold the phone in place, try sliding these to the outside of the arms and the HD should squeeze inside:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3505774074/
good find thanks very much, I will probably be buying this tonight!
Many many thanks for the infos...
you just answered all my unanswered questions
ordering it soon.....
I've just received mine...
Works perfect.... more than perfect ..
installed on storage card and call of duty2, flux challenge, pocket clive (zx spectrum emulator) all work fine
Maybe just a barebly noticed lag in communication (a small delay in controls... and i am not so sure about it)
Recommended...
nice
thx for the informations
but i think it looks a lil cheap
isn´t there any posibility to use a normal bluetooth controller for example the PS3 controller ?
It looks cheap but take it from someone who owns one, the build quality on it is on par/close to with Genuine playstation controllers.
Buttons feel good, not mushy and spongy, sliders move smoothly and no poorly fitting parts or grinding in the moving bits. They are REALLY good.
I have to disagree. I've had this bluetooth gamepad for a long time, mainly used for the N95. The quality is average at best and no where near the comfort of any game console controllers. The most annoying feature is the extremely poor battery life. It doesn't last more than a couple of hours... It will cost you a fortune in the long run and frustrate you in the middle of a game.
If you want a controller I would rather use the iGo Stowaway Keyboard. The battery last about 90hrs. Not ideal but it doubles up as a QWERTY.
Hi!
i have buyed bgp100 gamepad too but it seems don't works correctly, A,B,C,D,R button are received from htc hd like same button...
i tried to read with attention qhat mulligan2k say but maybe i don't understand something or i don't know...
with my notebook it works correctly, i think there some driver problem or wm6.5 incompatibility?
thanks for all answer.
Hi everyone ... bought a BGP100 last weekend here: http://www.pearl.de/a-HZ1400-4046.shtml?query=bluetooth gamepad
But if i install the driver via PC (cab installation) and after starting the Gamepad application, there is an error message popup:
"Connection error! Sorry! We don't support this Bluetooth Gamepad."
Anyone has a solution?
hi, you have to install ms version not widcom, it works for me, but there is other problem: A,B,C,D,R are receive from the HD with same exadecimal code and it's unusable for playing...
if it works for you please say something on this board please.
Hmmm ... this Gamepad is absolutely not working. Tried a lot of drivers, MS Bluetooth Stack drivers, Widcomm drivers (with them, the gamepad dialog doesn't start), samsung drivers ... everything.
The same message every time: "Connection error! Sorry! We don't support this Bluetooth Gamepad." --- tried to connect directly via bluetooth, nothing.
I think, the gamepad isn't working for me (as it's not a MSI gamepad )
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Hmmm ... this Gamepad is absolutely not working. Tried a lot of drivers, MS Bluetooth Stack drivers, Widcomm drivers (with them, the gamepad dialog doesn't start), samsung drivers ... everything.
The same message every time: "Connection error! Sorry! We don't support this Bluetooth Gamepad." --- tried to connect directly via bluetooth, nothing.
I think, the gamepad isn't working for me (as it's not a MSI gamepad )
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probably your gamepad isn't compatible...
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compatible with? i think, my gamepad and the drivers aren't matching. i don't think, it has something to do with bluetooth stack at my device. afaik the diamond uses also MS Bluetooth stack.
hope to get some fitting drivers for the gamepad
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compatible with? i think, my gamepad and the drivers aren't matching. i don't think, it has something to do with bluetooth stack at my device. afaik the diamond uses also MS Bluetooth stack.
hope to get some fitting drivers for the gamepad
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maybe it is incompativle with winmo devices, maybe bgp100 driver aren't same of your gamepad driver.
I have bought through ebay the exact gamepad.
Please note that mine is the original MSI gamepad.
I have used the drivers for the HTC Magician in the accompanying CD .
I have had no problems at all.
Have in mind that you must install the drivers in the storage card and not in the device
kstab said:
I have bought through ebay the exact gamepad.
Please note that mine is the original MSI gamepad.
I have used the drivers for the HTC Magician in the accompanying CD .
I have had no problems at all.
Have in mind that you must install the drivers in the storage card and not in the device
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have you tried with morphgear? it works?
zarkon85 said:
Hi!
i have buyed bgp100 gamepad too but it seems don't works correctly, A,B,C,D,R button are received from htc hd like same button...
i tried to read with attention qhat mulligan2k say but maybe i don't understand something or i don't know...
with my notebook it works correctly, i think there some driver problem or wm6.5 incompatibility?
thanks for all answer.
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Try The Attached File
I know that this thread hasn't been posted to in a few months, but I hope that the information that I am posting will help someone. This is my first time posting anything, anywhere, on the web.... so wish me luck.
My current setup is a HTC Sprint Touch Pro flashed to ToO's CricKet rom(very nice). Whilst expirementing with emulation on the device, and mapping the keyboard buttons, all of the Action Buttons were showing up as the same location on the keyboard. Regaurdless of what button I pressed, they all came up as 020 if I remember right. After spending night after night of searching forum after forum, along came a solution. Posted somewhere in the deapths of our very own xda-developers.com I read about this program KforTP. Created by "Jack Wang", I am not sure as to how Mr. Jack came to developing this marvelous tool... but I think it would have happened like this...
Late one night in 2008 while at the bar, Jack sat sat freeloading WiFi on his HTC Touch Pro. Downloading emulators at speeds that would put The Flash to shame.
(Evil Laugh)
After a few rounds too many Jack became enraged at his phone.
"Why won't my Action Buttons map on PockSNES!"
Only it came out in a drunken slur. The bartender knew that Jack was terribly drunk.
"Hey et your drunk #[email protected] outta here!"
As Jack left the bar in his beat-up honda he turned the music up and let the windows down to keep his mind off of driving drunk. Rounding a sharp curve on a wet road Jack soon found himself spinning out of control. Lights were comming from everywhere on the dashboard....
"OH &$#% I'M GONNA DIE!!!!"
The car finally came to a hault, and Jack was deaf to the music wailinng from the speakers.
"Yeeeeeee Haaaaaaw!"
Jack got back on the road and drove safely home. After walking through the threshold of his abode, Jack knew that he survived that crash for only one reason.
"I must code a fix for my problem with the Action Buttons not mapping."
But any way the file is attached so give it a shot, and let me know how you liked my first post ever in my LIFE... any feedback would be nice.... Add me on Facebook... whatever.... oh wait, i never post my email address! But seriously let me know what you think. I have never tried this program on any device except for MY Touch Pro. The code may need to be adjusted if you intend to use it on any other device. I do not take any credit for this program in any way. The authors information is in the "about" section.
Welcome, new net citizen!
Hello everyone,
just got my brand new shiny Streak. And man its something. Basically, everything I ever wanted from and now looking back at all the phones I had and other phones on the market I can`t keep wondering why in gods name would someone buy something else other than a 5" phone. 4-4.3" is good but 5" is just perfect.
So I made this upgrade from an Xperia X1 and never do I want to see WinMo in my life. But right now I have an ... android rush lol. Lots of info, apps, games. Its like an overload to try and understand everything and get use to everything. In a good way.
My first issue was with the car charger. Dell charges a lot as you already know. But I found an universal car charger for 7 pounds, that outputs 5V and 1A and i`m using the data cable to charge the phone in my car. No need for a holder just yet.
The pouch is good, but definately needs a proper case as its getting annoying sometimes to take it out all the time.
Got a few questions, regarding apps and games and such, if anyone here has more experience with android than me...
1. I`m planning to buy this (http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php) . Will it affect the screen brightness in any way ?
2. Currently using GoNews as my newsreader but I`m looking for a good working one that also has to option to search a website for RSS feed. The one i`m using at the moment gives me the option to import from a file or input the whole adress manually.
3. Gaming wise, I dont mind paying for games. And the ones i`d pay for would be a good RPG and an RTS. Currently thinking about buying ZENONIA, but I can`t seem to find any RTS games out there (StarCraft, Age of Empires, Command and Conquer). Not those games, but they are examples of gameplay i`m looking for.
4. Also looking for a game that works on Streak similar to Worms world party. Could have tanks or other things, but should work lol. Tried something Armored Lite or whatevr the name was but the graphics war very buggy and made gaming pretty impossible.
5. Dialer. Can it be changed ?
6. Email client. BEfore getting the phone, i was reading reviews and stuff. People said the email client sucked. At first I thought it was ok but god I was wrong. Can`t do anything besides reading the email. Could anyone recommend a better email client ?
7. How do I make it stop turning the display on and off while on a phonecall ?
8. What benefits would I have if I root it ? Not an android expert and not sure if I should give it a try or not.
9. 3g or Wi-Fi videochat. Are there any apps that do this ?
10. Last but not least hehe Navigation. Basically I think its great and considering I spend A LOT of time in my car and using a TomTom, I was thinking of replacing my satnav with my Streak. BUT, is the navigation software dependent on internet connection and gps ? As far as I saw, if my internet connection drops the navigation looses the map or something. Is there any android navigation app that is GPS only. Giving the 16 GB memory, I don`t mind downloading maps and such.
Thanks
I may not be able to answer all your questions, but i will do my best
1) No, it shouldn't affect the brightness much (maybe slightly). I've never owned an invisible shield, but i've heard very good things about them. The 'feel' of the screen will change, however.
2) Not sure, sorry
3) There are not that many good android games out there at the moment (not that look good on the streak at least). I'm not a big gamer though, so i can't really answer this question well
4) as above
5) Of course! there are numerous 3rd party diallers out there. Or, you can pull the dialler application from your phone and change the images if you want (requires root)
6) There's a nice e-mail client in the market called K9. It works perfectly.
7) The display only turns itself off when the sensor is covered (when you hold the phone to your ear), i believe that otherwise the screen stays active. If it does not, you can always change the 'screen time-out' in settings to 'Never Timeout'.
8) Rooting allows you to modify the system files. This means, like mentioned above, you can pull applications from your phone and modify the images. This means you can create and apply themes. You can also overclock your phones processor (not been done yet on this phone i don't think). There are countless other things you can do. Here's a good list- http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root
9) There aren't many video call apps, but if you search 'Movicha' in the market place there is an app called 'Live Mobile Video Chat' which apparently does the job. (no idea if it works on the streak though)
10) Good question, never really thought about this before. I've found a good (and more importantly, free!) app though, called 'TrekBuddy'. You download the maps prior to your journey and then it allows offline navigation. Not sure how well it works, but it's the best i can do!
Hope this helps!
Thanks a lot. Still reading tons of android forums and websites.
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
fards said:
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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Yes that is true and if you know where to look there is a not so legal one out there
I have the Invisible Shield and it works like a charm. No brightness effects at all. The only thing is that the shield for the back left and right is not cut very well, but the front ones and battery cover is great.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
fards said:
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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agreed. copilot is very good, it almost pains me to say that considering how god awful it preformed on my G1 but on the streak its fantastic. little extra power goes along way
So pardon me if this is an unnecessary thread, or if no one else has ever had this issue but it drove me insane trying to figure out how to get this to work. That being said, I discovered how to pair the Motorola bluetooth keyboard (the one made for the Xoom) with our HTC Evo 3D. If anyone has ever tried this/ own's the Moto keyboard, you probably know that if you just put the device in pairing mode and try to pair it just won't work. You get a box that pops up for a split second with a pairing code and then it disappears right away before you can punch it in. But I knew that the keyboard and the Evo both do bt HID. So I did tons of digging and searching and couldn't find ANYTHING on how to get it to pair with the EVO 3D (apparently it pairs normally and just fine with just about everything else that supports bt HID devices). Finally I looked in the manual, and noticed a special pairing mode that is supposed to be used when pairing with a computer. I figured "what the hell" and gave it a try with the Evo and it worked!!! To get the Moto Bluetooth keyboard paired with the Evo 3d here's whatcha gotta do:
1. Put the Moto keyboard in "computer pairing mode" by holding down the keys V + A + R while powering on the keyboard. (I kept them pressed even after releasing the power button until the green indicator light on the keyboard stayed lit indicating it was in pairing mode)
2. On your phone in the bluetooth settings menu, select "search for devices"
3. Now when the Motorola keyboard shows up, select it and when the box pops up prompting you to enter a pairing code it will remain on the screen for as long as you need to put the code in.
4. ON THE MOTO KEYBOARD enter in the numeric code that your phone gives you as the pairing code then PRESS THE ENTER KEY on the keyboard (it doesn't say that you need to, but it will not work if you don't).
Woo-hoo! The keyboard is now paired with the Evo 3D!! It actually works really well with the phone (No lag, or any beefs that I've got at least. I actually typed this whole post on my Evo with the Moto keyboard) and even some of the Android Specific function keys that were designed for the Xoom are working for me I hope that this helped anyone out there that was frustrated and couldn't figure out how to pair this awesome keyboard with this beastly phone.
sweet i still have my keyboard from when i had the xoom. thanks for reminding me about it now if the phone just had a kickstand built in
TylerMF said:
So pardon me if this is an unnecessary thread, or if no one else has ever had this issue but it drove me insane trying to figure out how to get this to work. That being said, I discovered how to pair the Motorola bluetooth keyboard (the one made for the Xoom) with our HTC Evo 3D. If anyone has ever tried this/ own's the Moto keyboard, you probably know that if you just put the device in pairing mode and try to pair it just won't work. You get a box that pops up for a split second with a pairing code and then it disappears right away before you can punch it in. But I knew that the keyboard and the Evo both do bt HID. So I did tons of digging and searching and couldn't find ANYTHING on how to get it to pair with the EVO 3D (apparently it pairs normally and just fine with just about everything else that supports bt HID devices). Finally I looked in the manual, and noticed a special pairing mode that is supposed to be used when pairing with a computer. I figured "what the hell" and gave it a try with the Evo and it worked!!! To get the Moto Bluetooth keyboard paired with the Evo 3d here's whatcha gotta do:
1. Put the Moto keyboard in "computer pairing mode" by holding down the keys V + A + R while powering on the keyboard. (I kept them pressed even after releasing the power button until the green indicator light on the keyboard stayed lit indicating it was in pairing mode)
2. On your phone in the bluetooth settings menu, select "search for devices"
3. Now when the Motorola keyboard shows up, select it and when the box pops up prompting you to enter a pairing code it will remain on the screen for as long as you need to put the code in.
4. ON THE MOTO KEYBOARD enter in the numeric code that your phone gives you as the pairing code then PRESS THE ENTER KEY on the keyboard (it doesn't say that you need to, but it will not work if you don't).
Woo-hoo! The keyboard is now paired with the Evo 3D!! It actually works really well with the phone (No lag, or any beefs that I've got at least. I actually typed this whole post on my Evo with the Moto keyboard) and even some of the Android Specific function keys that were designed for the Xoom are working for me I hope that this helped anyone out there that was frustrated and couldn't figure out how to pair this awesome keyboard with this beastly phone.
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You are a life saver!!
So I called motorola and HTC and neither could help, and then I read this post. Now I need to sync my moto mouse and I would be in business.
Thanks
oskdf1 said:
So I called motorola and HTC and neither could help, and then I read this post. Now I need to sync my moto mouse and I would be in business.
Thanks
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Hey man, I'm glad I could help you out! I remember when I was trying to figure it out, I'd all but given up lol. I'm glad I could help someone else out with getting it to work
Thanks for this! Helped me pair with my Sensation 4G and my hp touchpad. If only bluetooth worked on the ICS ports for the xoom...lol
I hope people are still looking at this thread.
The pairing went flawlessly, but I cant type .
In settings it says Paired, but not connected.
The keyboard flashes 5 times and stays off, it does this over and over.
And when I type the Bluetooth settings say it is connected for 1 second and then it is not connected anymore
I hope this is enough info .
Thanks in advance
Haven't ever heard of a problem like that. Weird... After you successfully paired, try long pressing on the keyboard in Bluetooth settings and see what it says. Also, this may sound silly, but try some brand new batteries.
Sent from a Jedi in a Galaxy (S2) far, far away...
Ahh,
It was my custom kernel
I got another one, now everything is fine . It really is an awesome keyboard, it is almost like I have an computer in my pocket, because I am also connected to my pc monitor with MHL.
That's why I love android, suck it Iphone
thanks anyway for you help..
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THANK YOU cuz now my Samsung Charge connects with bluetooth keyboard!
Thank You Thank You Tyler MF -- for the directions to pair a motorola keyboard (for xoom).
I have been searching far and wide for the key to pairing my Samsung Droid Charge with the same keyboard you are using. Everything said it was possible, theoretically, but I was having the same experience you did with the Evo.
My employer issued me a laptop and I drive around three counties all day for work and I really needed a device (not locked down by an IT department) that I could quickly type notes to document my work and to respond to lengthier emails and texts. I got an Asus Transformer, which is a very nice device, but too much extra weight to add to my briefcase, especially since it is extra effort to go online with it.
But now! Thanks to you! I can do all of this work on my phone with the Motorola Keyboard and the Logitech bluetooth mouse !!
Sweet!!:victory:
Really glad this helped ya out man! And I'm glad that after all this time has passed since I typed this people are still able to find it and make use of it Always does my heart good to rescue another from the clutches of the IT lockdown Nazis lol
Sent from a Jedi in a Galaxy(s2) far, far away...
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Really glad this helped ya out man! And I'm glad that after all this time has passed since I typed this people are still able to find it and make use of it Always does my heart good to rescue another from the clutches of the IT lockdown Nazis lol
Sent from a Jedi in a Galaxy(s2) far, far away...
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Helped me too, 1 1/2 years later :good:
SGS2 pairing with Motorola bluetooth keyboard
Many thanks. You've helped me pair my keyboard with my galaxy gear
it’s 2020 and I’m very grateful for this thread.
I had been using my motorola keyboard with an ipad pro 2nd gen well enough, but when I swapped out the dead nonrechargeable batteries for new rechargeable ones, I had a helluva time reconnecting. I went thru connection procedure in manual at least like 5 times and was so angry at the disappearing passcode. I saw the VAR computer mode in the manual but since it was 4am I was gonna give up. Til I saw this thread which confirmed to me that I should have tried it all along.
Anyways, I’m typing thank you on a paired motorola keyboard at least 6 years (Edit: actually nearly a decade!) later from OP. Oh and it’s nearly 5am bc it took me so long to make an account oops. Since OP’s signature mentions a galaxy s ii, I don’t think they will necessarily respond but I just wanted to express gratitude for this forum’s existence
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it’s 2020 and I’m very grateful for this thread.
I had been using my motorola keyboard with an ipad pro 2nd gen well enough, but when I swapped out the dead nonrechargeable batteries for new rechargeable ones, I had a helluva time reconnecting. I went thru connection procedure in manual at least like 5 times and was so angry at the disappearing passcode. I saw the VAR computer mode in the manual but since it was 4am I was gonna give up. Til I saw this thread which confirmed to me that I should have tried it all along.
Anyways, I’m typing thank you on a paired motorola keyboard at least 6 years (Edit: actually nearly a decade!) later from OP. Oh and it’s nearly 5am bc it took me so long to make an account oops. Since OP’s signature mentions a galaxy s ii, I don’t think they will necessarily respond but I just wanted to express gratitude for this forum’s existence
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So happy that this write up is still helping people all these years later! I've not been active in these forums for a very long time (as you've mentioned) but in glad that the work I put in is still helping people. Cheers! Have a wonderful day ?
Can anybody confirm that they are having the same problem on their Galaxy Tab 7.7? If I use a bluetooth keyboard, it pairs and sets up and works fine, but if I don't press any keys for exactly one second, then press a key, there is a latency of about 0.5 seconds for the key press to register. I don't have this problem on my Galaxy Nexus, and I can recreate it with both a bluetooth keyboard and a wiimote connected through bluez ime. However, if I connect the wiimote as a non-hid device through wiimote controller, there is no latency after however many seconds. I believe there must be some latency setting to save power, but am not sure. Can anyone advise? I play games with an external keyboard, and it really messes me up. Thanks!
I haven't timed it, but I haven't noticed any latency or issue with my Bluetooth keyboard.
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I haven't timed it, but I haven't noticed any latency or issue with my Bluetooth keyboard.
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Could you perhaps let me know which model you have (3g or wifi) and which firmware you're running? If you could just test to make sure that the keyboard responds instantly after not being used for about five seconds, I'll flash mine to whatever you have and be forever grateful.
i am also experiencing this, but i am using like a $12 bluetooth keyboard so i just shrug it off since im not bothered by the lag anyway
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TeeeJaay said:
i am also experiencing this, but i am using like a $12 bluetooth keyboard so i just shrug it off since im not bothered by the lag anyway
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Good to know that I'm not alone. Hopefully ICS will fix it. I know my galaxy nexus doesn't have this problem so I can only keep my fingers crossed. It wouldn't bother me for text input, but it bothers me hugely when trying to play games, so we'll see if anyone knows how to fix this. Thanks a lot for confirming though.
I'm using a Logitech bluetooth mouse V470 and it's really fast, yes there's a little lag when I stop using it for a few minutes but it's so little that doesn't really bother me. I cant tell you right now about a keyboard, I'll test one tomorrow with and without the mouse and we'll see what happens... I'll get back to you...
Thanks. That's the only real problem with mine right now. I've tried only the Hong Kong firmware, but I don't see there being a difference in the other ones. I imagine that if it's possible to disassemble one of the APKs related to bluetooth and change a timeout value it will work, but I have no idea where to look for such a file.
I connected the bluetooth mouse and a keyboard and they both work great simultaneously, and yes, there's always a delay after you stop using then for a moment but doesn't really bother me...
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Thanks. That's the only real problem with mine right now. I've tried only the Hong Kong firmware, but I don't see there being a difference in the other ones. I imagine that if it's possible to disassemble one of the APKs related to bluetooth and change a timeout value it will work, but I have no idea where to look for such a file.
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I'm using a Hong Kong one, and also experience the lag after I stopped using it for awhile. This also affects my Phonejoy game controller at times unfortunately.
Really hope, ICS will fix this.
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Same here, it bothers me, but seems it's some general bluetooth go to sleep or whatever issue, after not typing for a couple of seconds, the first keystrokes fail to register for a second or so.
I noticed identical behavior with the Samsung Note.
Glad I found this thread, because I couldn't find anything else anywhere with Google. There's a similar thread in the 7.0 Plus Accessories forum. I can confirm that I'm having the same issue, only with the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. Same exact issue. I'm using both the iControlPad and a keyboard, and the issue manifests itself with both devices, so it's got to be the tablet.
I also noticed that, if a key is held down for too long (I think 3+ seconds), the corresponding action or letter will repeat for a second or two (very noticeable when playing platformer games). If that same key is held down for a shorter period (say, only 1, maybe 2 seconds), then the action or letter will cease repeating immediately after I let go of the key.
Submitted a request to Samsung to fix this, and you may want to do the same (not sure if it will help, but doesn't hurt to try).
Mobile gaming was one of the reasons I got this tablet, and games are nearly unplayable with this delay that is introduced. I'm using the same bluetooth devices with the Motorola Razr Maxx, and these delay issues are not present at all (in fact, the response with using a controller is near perfect). Hate to say it, but I will be forced to look to other tablets if this doesn't get resolved with the ICS update (and I won't get my hopes up).
I can confirm that with the vanilla ICS bluetooth implementation in the Galaxy Nexus, this problem isn't present. I actually sold my Tab 7.7 because of this problem, among other various small bugs, like programs randomly disappearing (of course it's rooted, and I can't say if this happens when not rooted).
Hopefully when ICS is released, if it does have the problem, there will be an AOKP or Cyanogenmod port which will resolve it. Sadly, I don't want to wait for that. Perhaps anyone with an SGS 2 can confirm if this problem is present in Gingerbread and in ICS, or only in gingerbread. Someone with a note could do the same.
Posted this in the 7.0 Plus thread as well. Called Samsung's support line after reporting this by email. I would normally think that this would lead nowhere, but their support line seems to lead to knowledgeable people who at least understood what I was saying (and this seems to be a very specific issue). The number is 1-800-726-7864.
I reported the issue, and I also mentioned the 7.7 tab and the Note. Not sure if that will lead anywhere, but it doesn't hurt for more people to report this.
Also asked about ICS... crickets of course
So my hope to c0nnect keyboard n mouse. Hdmi output and charging at the same time is gone.
Hi,
Have not used my Nook Tablet recently because have newer hardware.
Recently saw "Use An Android Tablet as a Live Monitor for your DSLR Camera" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnzkHegu3aA and hope can do this with my Nook Tablet 16GB.
Searched the forum and then YouTube using Nook Tablet for camera monitor but to date have found nothing.
Hope someone else has interest in doing this.
Thanks
Ken
A search through the forum for "USB Host" seems to indicate that while many people over the years have coveted this capability, it has never been implemented on the NT.
That said, there are some DSLR cameras that use direct WiFi to communicate with Android devices and can display what they see on the tablet screen (not to mention accept remote commands from the device). These apps run just fine on the NT.
nmyshkin,
"there are some DSLR cameras that use direct WiFi to communicate with Android devices and can display what they see on the tablet screen (not to mention accept remote commands from the device). These apps run just fine on the NT" Unfortunately my cameras do not have WiFi.
Thanks for the tip about "USB Host" somehow my searches never picked it up. Redid the search using Nook tablet USB Host and got a Lot of Hits! Also Googled and got > 111K hits!!!
Clarification: Is the reason it has never been implemented on the NT a Hardware or a Software problem?
Googled and found [Q] USB Host/OTG mode for peripherals? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546363
Answer by tobdaryl "From what I have read this is not possible yet but is being looked at by at least Team B. Others may also be working on this but it holds lesser value till the more important things to everyday operation on internal hardware has been conquered" it sounds like a Software problem.
Beginners question, if it is a Software problem can it be corrected by installing a newer version of Android?
Thanks for your help!!!
Ken
KenithO said:
Beginners question, if it is a Software problem can it be corrected by installing a newer version of Android?
Thanks for your help!!!
Ken
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It has to be patched into the OS by someone (if the hardware even allows for it). That funky USB connection on the NT may also cause issues, not sure.
But yes, it's maybe both, certainly at least non-existent code in the OS. I looked at my tablet running AOSP 7.0 and I only saw one mention of USB Audio in the Settings section. That's a typical USB Host application (I use it on my NST--there developers wrote new code patches to enable USB Host). Just for the heck of it and because I have all the hardware, I attached an OTG cable and a USB Audio device to my NT.
Nada. Generally there has to be a setting to enable USB Host because power input/output has to be changed, drivers added, among other things. The setting I found on my NT is probably just there like "camera" and "bluetooth" are there. They don't do anything but it was easier to just let them be than to take them out and try to trace all the threads that might unravel if they were removed.
So I think the answer is still that no one ever got around to looking at it seriously, or someone did once and found the hardware was an issue.
Sorry
nmyshkin,
Thanks for checking!!! My gut feeling now it is a Hardware Problem.
Any suggestions as to uses for the NT since the hardware is so old?
Ken
PS Thanks for the "Nook Simple Touch" link https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61591693&postcount=2
Beginners Question: Are you now running Android Open Source Project 7.0 on it?
Did you ever do any baseline speed tests with original NT OS and your later OSes?
KenithO said:
Are you now running Android Open Source Project 7.0 on it?
Did you ever do any baseline speed tests with original NT OS and your later OSes?
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I am running AOSP 7.0 (see https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/how-to-installing-aosp-android-7-0-t3578665) and it performs flawlessly for me. No FCs, no freezes, no funny business. It's the best ROM I've run on the tablet (I never ran the stock).
Back when I was running CM 10.2.1 I did an AnTuTu test because someone asked about the speed of the system (which I thought was "fine"). I've never run another one, feeling they are pretty much useless. It seemed to test a great number of things I would never use the tablet for. The real question is "am I satisfied with the performance?". My answer is "yes".
My husband has an HD which I recently upgraded to CM 12. I know from working with his tablet that it is a little more responsive than mine, but I honestly don't care that much. I don't experience lag to any extent that changes my blood pressure and I'm constantly amazed at how well the tablet performs. So that's my test