Hi,
Have not used my Nook Tablet recently because have newer hardware.
Recently saw "Use An Android Tablet as a Live Monitor for your DSLR Camera" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnzkHegu3aA and hope can do this with my Nook Tablet 16GB.
Searched the forum and then YouTube using Nook Tablet for camera monitor but to date have found nothing.
Hope someone else has interest in doing this.
Thanks
Ken
A search through the forum for "USB Host" seems to indicate that while many people over the years have coveted this capability, it has never been implemented on the NT.
That said, there are some DSLR cameras that use direct WiFi to communicate with Android devices and can display what they see on the tablet screen (not to mention accept remote commands from the device). These apps run just fine on the NT.
nmyshkin,
"there are some DSLR cameras that use direct WiFi to communicate with Android devices and can display what they see on the tablet screen (not to mention accept remote commands from the device). These apps run just fine on the NT" Unfortunately my cameras do not have WiFi.
Thanks for the tip about "USB Host" somehow my searches never picked it up. Redid the search using Nook tablet USB Host and got a Lot of Hits! Also Googled and got > 111K hits!!!
Clarification: Is the reason it has never been implemented on the NT a Hardware or a Software problem?
Googled and found [Q] USB Host/OTG mode for peripherals? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546363
Answer by tobdaryl "From what I have read this is not possible yet but is being looked at by at least Team B. Others may also be working on this but it holds lesser value till the more important things to everyday operation on internal hardware has been conquered" it sounds like a Software problem.
Beginners question, if it is a Software problem can it be corrected by installing a newer version of Android?
Thanks for your help!!!
Ken
KenithO said:
Beginners question, if it is a Software problem can it be corrected by installing a newer version of Android?
Thanks for your help!!!
Ken
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It has to be patched into the OS by someone (if the hardware even allows for it). That funky USB connection on the NT may also cause issues, not sure.
But yes, it's maybe both, certainly at least non-existent code in the OS. I looked at my tablet running AOSP 7.0 and I only saw one mention of USB Audio in the Settings section. That's a typical USB Host application (I use it on my NST--there developers wrote new code patches to enable USB Host). Just for the heck of it and because I have all the hardware, I attached an OTG cable and a USB Audio device to my NT.
Nada. Generally there has to be a setting to enable USB Host because power input/output has to be changed, drivers added, among other things. The setting I found on my NT is probably just there like "camera" and "bluetooth" are there. They don't do anything but it was easier to just let them be than to take them out and try to trace all the threads that might unravel if they were removed.
So I think the answer is still that no one ever got around to looking at it seriously, or someone did once and found the hardware was an issue.
Sorry
nmyshkin,
Thanks for checking!!! My gut feeling now it is a Hardware Problem.
Any suggestions as to uses for the NT since the hardware is so old?
Ken
PS Thanks for the "Nook Simple Touch" link https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61591693&postcount=2
Beginners Question: Are you now running Android Open Source Project 7.0 on it?
Did you ever do any baseline speed tests with original NT OS and your later OSes?
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Are you now running Android Open Source Project 7.0 on it?
Did you ever do any baseline speed tests with original NT OS and your later OSes?
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I am running AOSP 7.0 (see https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/how-to-installing-aosp-android-7-0-t3578665) and it performs flawlessly for me. No FCs, no freezes, no funny business. It's the best ROM I've run on the tablet (I never ran the stock).
Back when I was running CM 10.2.1 I did an AnTuTu test because someone asked about the speed of the system (which I thought was "fine"). I've never run another one, feeling they are pretty much useless. It seemed to test a great number of things I would never use the tablet for. The real question is "am I satisfied with the performance?". My answer is "yes".
My husband has an HD which I recently upgraded to CM 12. I know from working with his tablet that it is a little more responsive than mine, but I honestly don't care that much. I don't experience lag to any extent that changes my blood pressure and I'm constantly amazed at how well the tablet performs. So that's my test
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Post here about anything you might have found out about the internal NookColor hardware.
Here's one to start with:
Look at dmesg under Android. The wireless driver is TIWLAN, and a little Googling correlates the line "Chip ID is 0x4030111" with a WL1271, a TI part with 802.11b/g/n, bluetooth, and FM. However, as far as I can tell Bluetooth isn't anywhere to be seen in the Nook ROM.
This document shows the typical setup for the WL1271, which is for WiFi to connect to the host through SDIO (one of the SD/SDIO/MMC interfaces) and Bluetooth and FM to go through a UART.
There may not be antennae for BT and FM, but we should definitely look into this
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There may not be antennae for BT and FM, but we should definitely look into this
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Maybe not FM, but that document I linked shows a "WiLink 6.0 Solution" that uses an antenna switch so only one 2.4GHz antenna is needed for BT and WiFi.
Ohhhh, this has some interesting potential!
I got Flash 10.1 to install, but cannot get the B&N Browser to Dolphin to recognize that its installed when I try to do something with Flash (tells me I need to install it)
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Ohhhh, this has some interesting potential!
I got Flash 10.1 to install, but cannot get the B&N Browser to Dolphin to recognize that its installed when I try to do something with Flash (tells me I need to install it)
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Interesting, but let's keep this thread on the topic of hardware.
Have you tried checking the ttys? Or even just trying to put a bluez stack + firmware taken from another device on it?
BlueTooth
Please, Oh Please, tell me that this device can do BlueTooth. The ability to add a wireless keyboard would make this device Perfect for me!!!!
Agreed, Bluetooth FTW. We could be one kernal injection away from BT!
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Have you tried checking the ttys? Or even just trying to put a bluez stack + firmware taken from another device on it?
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I didn't bother; from that doc I posted there's a GPIO enable for bluetooth, and unless the BN developers were complete bozos they've turned it off and left it off in this kernel. We could go searching for it, but it would get tedious. I am willing to bet that it's referenced in the BN u-boot and kernel sources though.
The TI WLAN/BT/FM driver and firmware can be found here: http://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/wilink_drivers/
This might not be the right section. But what are the possibilities of overclocking to possibly run the tablet version of android "3.0" which is said to require 1ghz or faster processor??
This is an interesting find. My guess is that it would have been too much of a hassle for BN to get a WIFI only chip so they opted for the ready made one and disabled the rest of the functionality.
But I think until we have a cooked ROM for the Nook we won't be able to see BT any time soon. This is too stripped down an OS.
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This is an interesting find. My guess is that it would have been too much of a hassle for BN to get a WIFI only chip so they opted for the ready made one and disabled the rest of the functionality.
But I think until we have a cooked ROM for the Nook we won't be able to see BT any time soon. This is too stripped down an OS.
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It's clear that the NC is based on TI's ebook reference platform. Given the amount of TI silicon in there I wouldn't be surprised if TI cut them a deal on this WiFi module such that it was cheaper than another company's WiFi-only one. It's not clear what's inside the module, and for all we know there is no BT/WiFi switch, which would make it impossible to run anything but WiFi.
As long as the module has a switch, it wouldn't make any sense for BN to hard-disable the bluetooth. There aren't that many connections just to get BT data, and I'm pretty sure the OMAP doesn't use those connections (1 GPIO, 1 UART) for anything. It would only cost a few PCB traces and maybe a pullup resistor or two, less than a couple of cents at scale.
The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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where was this confirmed? never heard mention of it at all
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where was this confirmed? never heard mention of it at all
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It seems pretty unlikely, to be honest. The NC wasn't intended to run straight Android so can't see B&N being massively interested in supporting future Android versions.
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The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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That's a fairy tale. The next version of android will be 2.3, and nothing about 3.0 could be confirmed as it's likely 6 months away at least. And no one has really even confirmed anything about 2.3. It's all been sightings and rumors.
But back on topic - has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material? Maybe they have a vanilla version of android that is made to work with the processor? It's possible the Nook hardware is similar or identical to some TI reference design - it is the first product based on that chip after all, maybe B&N just let TI design the thing?
EDIT: At the bottom of the page for this processor it says: "This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."
So Grr, looks like they're not going to share much unless you're a big company. Sometimes these guys have lots of support material for their processors, but I guess this one is too specialized.
has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material?
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I browsed through a bit. Looks like very well supported hardware - the driver for the WIFI chip is in the AOSP source tree, and the graphics chips is pretty common.
It would seem to me that a port of Cyanogen would be very straightforward. The missing buttons would need to be mapped to something - maybe an additional UI component which popped up for menu and back? - but other than that...doesn't look too bad. Simpler than a lot of others, maybe.
And damn, this device looks like it would be pretty quick. It's no slouch now, and with Froyo...and maybe a touch of overclocking... it would be faster than a Nexus one with absolutely killer battery life.
A very commonly available, high-quality Cyanogen tablet for $250?
Sick.
You could copy the Archos on-screen buttons (which look really annoying but are better than nothing)
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That's a fairy tale. The next version of android will be 2.3, and nothing about 3.0 could be confirmed as it's likely 6 months away at least. And no one has really even confirmed anything about 2.3. It's all been sightings and rumors.
But back on topic - has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material? Maybe they have a vanilla version of android that is made to work with the processor? It's possible the Nook hardware is similar or identical to some TI reference design - it is the first product based on that chip after all, maybe B&N just let TI design the thing?
EDIT: At the bottom of the page for this processor it says: "This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."
So Grr, looks like they're not going to share much unless you're a big company. Sometimes these guys have lots of support material for their processors, but I guess this one is too specialized.
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Eh, as far as I can tell it's the same die as the 3630 but in a lower pin count package, without a package-on-package (DRAM/flash stacked on top) version, no camera interface, and only specced for 800MHz. The 3630 comes in 1200MHz versions, and as we've seen with the Nooter bootloader (by accident) it's possible to make this part run at least at 1GHz.
The datasheet for this part is the general 36xx series datasheet, and at 24MB isn't lacking at all (except for the DRM stuff).
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You could copy the Archos on-screen buttons (which look really annoying but are better than nothing)
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You could.
There's a thread in the general section right now about a button remapping app.
I just manually did what the app does, pulled the .kl files, changed VOLUME_UP to BACK and VOLUME_DOWN to MENU, pushed the files back and rebooted.
Et Voila, Bob's yer uncle, I now have menu and back keys...at the expense of losing a couple of volume control keys about which I care not at all.
Nice.
I recently got my hands on a quite interesting device, a cideko simple box.
Just for the sake of it, I'd like to hack it, and maybe even get a custom rom on it.
It's basically a set-up-multimedia-thingy-box for a TV running android, and it's pretty damn cheap.
Using adb via TCP/IP I was already able to connect and also get a rootshell (yay!)
However, it seems like no firmware files/instructions how to flash are available by the manufacturer (nay!)... I already asked them nicely, let's see what I get back.
You can find the adb bugreport output here if you're curious.
Anyone wants to help?
Florian
Saw this hardware before. 600Mhz, no openGL or any accelleration for games, nothing.
It does play back media files, but that's about it.
Very low-end chipset from Skyviia.. ARMv5TEJ at ~228 bogomips is pretty bad.
Does it support the install of apk files from USB? and does it allow flash on websites?
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Just for the sake of it, I'd like to hack it, and maybe even get a custom rom on it.
It's basically a set-up-multimedia-thingy-box for a TV running android, and it's pretty damn cheap.
Using adb via TCP/IP I was already able to connect and also get a rootshell (yay!)
However, it seems like no firmware files/instructions how to flash are available by the manufacturer (nay!)... I already asked them nicely, let's see what I get back.
Anyone wants to help?
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Did you manage to customise your Simplebox? I bought one and the description said "Install Apps and games via the built in SD card slot (APK files)" but I can't find anything in the manual.
MsAnnieOD said:
Just for the sake of it, I'd like to hack it, and maybe even get a custom rom on it.
It's basically a set-up-multimedia-thingy-box for a TV running android, and it's pretty damn cheap.
Using adb via TCP/IP I was already able to connect and also get a rootshell (yay!)
However, it seems like no firmware files/instructions how to flash are available by the manufacturer (nay!)... I already asked them nicely, let's see what I get back.
Anyone wants to help?
Florian
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Did you manage to customise your Simplebox? I bought one and the description said "Install Apps and games via the built in SD card slot (APK files)" but I can't find anything in the manual.
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I have one too. I like the device and the air keyboard, plus it was pretty cheap. I was really pleased that SMB/CIFS support worked out of the box and witha few other things, but thats where it stops. The software included is the let down, not the machine itself. Video playback is out of sync 99% of the time until you fast forward and/or rewind then it magically syncs up again, only 1 CIFS connection at a time, the vast majority of apps will not install and those that do fail to run, the video software displays long file names in such a way, that you cannot determine which file is which, etc. I sent Cideko an email asking them to pretty please provide a new update addressing these issues, but I heard nothing back and I sent it months ago.
The picture is good, the device is unobtrusive and if you rename your file appropriately then it is a bearable media streamer, but it could have been the best little cheap media box ever with just a little care and attention. Disappointing that no one is interested in improving it.
I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
bedowyn said:
I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
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Lemme guess-you have a AVIC head unit? If so, me too! (X910BT). I actually posed a somewhat similar question asking for information on how to program A2DP so I can spoof the Bluetooth into thinking it were a supported model so we could stream Slacker.....
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can help us....
What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
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What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
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Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
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Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
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I posted the same question a week ago with no answers. Great source of information here.
Anyway I dont think the issue is making the android system "pretend" to be an apple product as blackberries also work fine. I think droid needs a software to make it compatible wit this usb feature.
I'm looking at this inexpensive HDTV tuner/DVR. I'm guessing that they're ARM/Android-based but I'm going to buy one and open it up to see what's inside. It has all the makings of a cool, inexpensive little OTA DVR box - ATSC tuner, HDMI output, and a USB port for a TB storage drive. I originally bought the wrong (previous) model and played around with it. It was pretty responsive/seemed to have enough horsepower. Picture quality was good. DVR functionality didn't seem to work properly and the EPG was utter crap. If it's ARM/Android based and could be rooted, we could probably get XBMC on it and this thing would be a TiVo Roamio KILLER.
I could try to root it on my own but I've never done anything like that before and wouldn't know where to start. Can anyone point me toward any "how to root an Android device" resources?
I'm not without skills, but it would probably be better to just post a bounty and get help from the experts. What's the best way to go about doing something like that? What kinds of details do I need and how do I come up with the terms for the bounty? And WHERE would I post it?
I should probably add that I've googled rooting Android devices and the resulting haystack is focused on rooting phones. There's no MicroSD card to play with here - only the USB port - and no bootloader or BIOS prompt that I can see.
You could either try to get access through a serial or jtag connector, that is for example, how it was possible to change the firmware on the Fonera FON2100, which is maybe the easiest way.
Or you could try do disassemble a firmware update for this Router and reassemble it to work in your desired way, e.g. flash a different firmware.
Or you could try the numerous combinations of keys to press, where one may lead to something like fastboot.
But if it is really some sort of android-based you should try the various root-methodes like towelroot first.
I want to be able to plug my new Galaxy Tab S3 (T-820) into my desktop computer or laptop via the USB C cable and not just move files back and forth, (which works fine), but ALSO have access to my desktop's internet connection through USB. I don't want to use WiFi.
I have an Ethernet to USB C dongle, which works fine, but it doesn't allow me to share files or charge my tablet. I'd like to be able to do all three at the same time.
In many of the "How To" articles out there where "Reverse Tethering" is described, they helpfully list the various buttons and widgets to click in order to enable this feature. However the authors always refer to menu items and buttons which don't appear under my tablet's settings. They're not just greyed out. They're simply absent. So that doesn't work.
Neither do any of the various apps on the Google Play Store and elsewhere which promise to provide reverse tethering. They just don't work.
SO...
Being new to the Android (and the smartphone) universe, I did a ton of homework and have so far figured out how to...
Root my tablet. (Done!)
Wade through the swamp of TWRP, ODIN, etc., while tripping spectacularly over the various speed bumps and permission walls provided by the likes of Samsung and Google's paranoid anti-theft (and it would seem from my use case, their anti-happiness) feature set.
Successfully install different flavors of Android.
Install both Magisk and Xposed and try their tethering unlockers with negative results.
After a week of little sleep, I've managed to get through all of this torturous nonsense and amaze myself by not having bricked or totally spoiled my tablet. It still functions! After all the warranty-voiding BS I've crammed through it, I'm feeling quite lucky.
However... I still don't have the ability to tether/reverse tether!
I've learned a lot, but I still feel mostly like a dazed and confused script kiddie (remember when 'script kiddie' was a term? Well for me, it still applies nicely.) I'm trying my level best, but various elements of this whole exercise remain opaque. This is my first post in any forum asking for advice because I finally hit the outer bounds of my DIY energies and pride.
So, if you will indulge my humble request, what I want to know is...
1. Is my tablet even capable on a hardware level of performing a reverse tether, or has the manufacturer locked that feature out so that even a ROM which promises to turn it on will fail to do so?
AND...
2. If it IS possible for a ROM to turn on the tether/reverse tether feature, which one is it and where can I find it?
2a. If there is another solution.., what is it?
I'm currently on...
Android Version 8.0.0
Samsung Experience version 9.0
Kernel Version 3.18.71-13482624
Build Number R16NW.T820XXU1BRE2
I bought this unit off Amazon; it was a refurb and I didn't get it through some cellular provider nor do I have a phone plan. I don't know where this tablet originally came from, but it was all new, sealed and shiny in the box when I got it.
Thanks!
I can appreciate losing a week of sleep. But I don't understand why you need to reverse tether. Enable WiFi and there you go. I think the last time I needed to tether a device through my laptop's internet connection would have been the 1990s.
FWIW the USB-C connector on the TAB S3 is different because if you want to drive an HDMI monitor you need a DisplayLink chip enabled dongle and DisplayLink Presenter app running on the Tab S3. Whereas on my TAB S4 I can just plug any regular old USB-C -> HDMI dongle and display on the monitor. So odds are trying to get reverse tethering working on the Tab S3 is going to be an exercise in futility.
Hi there, you still looking for reverse tethering for android? i found & use this for a while... you can check github link here : https://github.com/Genymobile/gnirehtet
working well on my S3.
Holy cow, it works!
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Hi there, you still looking for reverse tethering for android? i found & use this for a while... you can check github link here : (link)
working well on my S3.
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What...? It worked?! Thank-you!
It's hard to believe how much effort and research I'd put into this, how many promising fixes I tried and which failed. In truth I'd given up weeks ago and found myself scornfully looking at the expensive tablet by my desk, wondering if I should hang on to it for its limited uses or sell it on eBay.
Thanks for posting! I can now do what I wanted with this machine.
For others, just follow the directions on the github link provided in the previous post.
I just scrolling around to find fixes for wifi issue - it connect & reconnect every times when on my office connection. Since me unable to use wifi, i try to find the work around using LAN connection. Then i found that.
Happy i can help others. Cheers mate.