Hello everyone, first time on this huge forum, I hope I'm not breaking any rules, pretty impressed by the community.
Here is the story : I'm french, currently in Australia. Thanks to my engineering studies, I travel a lot. So in the few next years I will be in france, in los angeles and in australia or mexico. Here in australia, phones are cheap thanks to kogan.com, so I decided to fall into the world of smartphones
(and It will be a S3 4G 16Gb for 290 euros or a S4 4G 32Gb for 440 euros, still trying to make my mind if those 150 euros of difference worth it or not) (I think It must be one of the best price worldwide for those phones, mainly cause of kogan and also I get the GST back when I'll left australia)
My question is this S3 or S4, will it be able to follow me around the world ? for the call/text, but also for the 3G ? for the 4G ?\
Thanks in advance, and again sorry if I'm not respecting a rule
Cheers
el-marino said:
Hello everyone, first time on this huge forum, I hope I'm not breaking any rules, pretty impressed by the community.
Here is the story : I'm french, currently in Australia. Thanks to my engineering studies, I travel a lot. So in the few next years I will be in france, in los angeles and in australia or mexico. Here in australia, phones are cheap thanks to kogan.com, so I decided to fall into the world of smartphones
(and It will be a S3 4G 16Gb for 290 euros or a S4 4G 32Gb for 440 euros, still trying to make my mind if those 150 euros of difference worth it or not) (I think It must be one of the best price worldwide for those phones, mainly cause of kogan and also I get the GST back when I'll left australia)
My question is this S3 or S4, will it be able to follow me around the world ? for the call/text, but also for the 3G ? for the 4G ?\
Thanks in advance, and again sorry if I'm not respecting a rule
Cheers
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Compare network frequencies in the country you are going with the specs of the phone.
This is the 3G Q&A section.
http://i.imgur.com/CVBwr.png
You need to define what model SGS3
pealsk 39/52
Thanks for the answer. I think it's the SGH-I747
here is the beast :
2G Network 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
3G Network 850, 900, 2100MHz
4G Network 800, 1800, 2600
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Is it gonna be good for all my countries ? I think so, It's really close from the international version, except for the 3G 900Hz
EDIT : I'm just worrying about USA/Mexico, I found the map of GSM world coverage, its says for those countries : 2G 1900 850 3G 1700/2100, 3G 850/1900
Will the 3G be working ?
SGH-I747
Ask in the SGH-I747 forum this is I9300 only .
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I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
lyka said:
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
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I'm sorry to tell you since your network works on 1800 Mhz your new T-mobile PW10B1 wont work on this frequency it's made for 900/1900 Mhz if you unlocked it or not it's not gona work, you need the PW10A1 devices they work on 900/1800 Mhz.
but there are cellphone companies in eu who use 900 maybe there are some in your country
if not well thats too bad
oh....no..... :shock:
is there anithing i can do? radio update??? something like this!
Your special edition ROM can help me?
from what i've been able to understand about the 900/1900 then it's a hardware limit the GSM part of the xda1 will have to be physically removed which would most likely be way more expensive then getting a new device
of cause i could be wrong
The XDA1 is available in two flavours (from what I read):
USA: 900/1900 bands
EU: 900/1800 bands
Since both flavours support the 900 band, you should be able to use it in Europ on one of the 'old' networks.
In Holland both KPN and Vodafone have nationwide coverage on 900MHz.
Since TIM is and 'old' company too (Telecom Italia isnt it?) I guess theyre on 900 too. To be sure: check the websites of the Italian mobile operators. Be aware that reception in some areas might be less than if you could use both 900 and 1800 bands as more and more operators are extending their networks on 1800 only (because of lack of free 900 band frequencies). I noticed this a few years back in France where in rural areas there was no coverage with a 900 phone and full reception with a 900/1800 phone (same network).
Reading the forum i've read that is possible to chose band 900/1800 and 900/1900 by bootloader and pressing calendar...can this be true for some model?
p.s. Of course TIM uses 900...i wonder if it will ever use 1900 one day
i think UTMS or some other replacement will take over before us and eu start to use the std's of eachother
just another question, i found information about special edition rom. It says that with bandswitch.exe some devices may work with other "not natural" band. So i'll try when my XDA will be shipped.
TIM wil NEVER use 1900, at least not in Europe. The 1900 band is not available for telecoms in Europe (just like the 1800 band is not available in USA)
I've got T-Mobile from US working in Russia on 800/1800 through ROM upgrade. What it did - it removed SIM Lock and turned the device into 3-band. Works perfect.
Rgds,
Cimmerian
www.briantracy.ru
i haver never heard about anybody being able to make a dualband into a triband using just software the filters and mixers in the hardware part og the gsm are different
I have never heard about that either. As far as I know frequencies are hardware based. Otherwise we could flash our XDA's to anything we wanted.
I have researched this for weeks and weeks since I need my XDA I to work on the 850Mhz network in the US quite badly.
Please post exactly how you did it
1800/1900
I got the same problem you do but reverse , I'm in the U.S and bought the phone from Europe ( qtek 1010 ) my phone will not work in the U.S because the network here is 1900 and in europe 1800. If you want I can trade with you if you have the same phone. I got all the package in a box.
My email is [email protected]
U can reach me on this email if you wish to exchange.
Lyka
There are 3 major networks in Italy that have 900 mhz networks.
They are:
Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM)
GSM 900/1800
Vodafone Omnitel N.V.
GSM 900/1800
Wind Telecomunicazioni SpA
GSM 900/1800
If you are within any of their networks you should have service with your
current Wallaby. (XDAI). You should be able to insert your sim card and go.
Some ROMS auto select the available network, others do not. There is also a program that you can cook into a ROM that give you a software selctable band switch.
I hope this helps?
Joe
Just to clarify my last post:
It has been discussed on this forum, for a few years, that you cannot
change a 900/1900 phone to 900/1800 using software.
However since your phone does operate on 900 mhz and there are
900 mhz throughout Italy, including Sardinia, you should have no problem using your current phone. In fact I have used my USA 900/1900) XDAI in Italy.
Let us know how you make out.
Joe
900/1900 T-Mobile -- Swap for an 900/1800 XDA ?
Straight swap...I made a mistake and bought a T-Mobile from the US thinking it would work in NZ....it won't and everyone on the forums agrees....so only option is to replace with a European one...
If anyone is interested, post a reply and we can set something up.
Cheers, Hamish
BandSwitching
I live in Jamaica, we have to GSM networks, 850/1900 & 900/1800 my XDA1 works well on both networks... although signal strength from the 900/1800 is stronger it makes no big difference... I believe the shorter band is essential in buildings etc. so wait till you get the phone and give it a try.
I tried the Band Switching application in the Special Edition ROM, it made no real difference.
Slightly off topic can someone point me to an explanation of UMTS???
Hi everyone,
i have one short question.
I'm currently living in the US for the next few months and my HTC Desire keeps on rebooting and HTC won't repair it in the US, because it's an german vodafone branded version.
Anyways, i need a new phone.
If I buy the SGSII here in the US, will I be able to use it in Germany aswell?
Because currently I cannot use 3G with my Desire (carrier is t-mobile), only EDGE. It would be a real bummer if I couldn't use the SGSII to it's full extend (meaning 3G etc.) in Germany.
Thanks for your answers!
Th unlocked Europe version is compatible with both Europe and US 3g radios.
ya well, but i want to buy it in the US and use it in europe. Not the other way round.
I think that's what he meant.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Could just buy Europe version online.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Tennis11 said:
Could just buy Europe version online.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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That's what I meant... Plus there are a stores in the US that will sell it.
gs2 unlocked version is quadband 3g 850, 900, 1900, 2100mhz. i'm assuming german is 900mhz. so you can use 3g in anywhere except tmobile usa (1700mhz).
Anyone that got the s2 in canada, can you share where you ordered this phone from, please ? I really want so bad but can't find where to order.
From what i heard , this phone even if it europ, it will work with us and canada providers?
Thank you.
I got mine on Ebay.
The phone supports (GSM/GPRS/EDGE): 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, and 2100 MHz bands.
Telus/Bell/Robbers/SaskTel/MTS use 1900 and 850 UMTS for 3G/4G/HSPA.
Don't know what bands the other providers use so I couldn't tell you if it would work on Wind, public,etc.
Hey,
So this phone works no problem in Canada? I'm on Rogers and I'm looking to buy an i9100 off the net.
Any idea if the NFC works?
Thanks
I'm on Rogers too. I ordered mine from Expansys on Friday...Fedex says it will be here tomorrow. Since Rogers uses the 850Mhz band for 3G/HSPA I'm sure it will work just fine.
I ordered mine from Expansys.ca
http://www.expansys.ca/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-209554/
You guys are going to love this phone
lasersocks said:
Hey,
So this phone works no problem in Canada? I'm on Rogers and I'm looking to buy an i9100 off the net.
Any idea if the NFC works?
Thanks
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The current devices do NOT have NFC.
As for NFC in Canada? I suspect it will be a few years before Canada is NFC ready. Canada is usually pretty slow in adopting new technology.
Look how long it took Canada to finally roll out Chip and PIN debit/credit cards.
Even so, our Chip and Pin cards still have magnetic stripes on them for the merchants that haven't upgraded yet. Which means our brand new Chip & Pin cards can still be easily skimmed.
yup... you gonna just love this beast!!! have mine since two week now..and very satisfy of course!!
i"m on rogers....but would work on any gsm network in canada...even on telus!! they use simcard for their hspa+.....and i"m not sure but bell who is using cdma band offer simcard, so i presume some phone could work on their network??
zxaz said:
yup... you gonna just love this beast!!! have mine since two week now..and very satisfy of course!!
i"m on rogers....but would work on any gsm network in canada...even on telus!! they use simcard for their hspa+.....and i"m not sure but bell who is using cdma band offer simcard, so i presume some phone could work on their network??
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Bell and Telus actually share the same HSPA+ infrastructure. They combined their resources to build it together
Ths SG2 will work on all of Canada's "big 3 Carriers" (and anybody that uses their network).
However, it won't work with Wind/Moblicity or anybody else that piggybacks off their network (well..you'll be stuck on 2G)
First, noob, question.
My phone, XT910. Retail.en.EU, can use't in 4G network? when available in my country, Portugal
Tanks
Sorry, my bad English.
If you have an XT910, you don't have 4G. I don't know what networks are available in Portugal, but depending on what frequencies they run at, there's a chance you might not be able to get 3G, either (carrier dependent). Look up what carriers use what frequencies in Portugal...the XT910 has bands for 850/900/1900/2100 for 3G.
al3xx said:
If you have an XT910, you don't have 4G. I don't know what networks are available in Portugal, but depending on what frequencies they run at, there's a chance you might not be able to get 3G, either (carrier dependent). Look up what carriers use what frequencies in Portugal...the XT910 has bands for 850/900/1900/2100 for 3G.
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Thanks
I have 3G.
I made a test with SPEEDTEST.NET.
Hit gave me HSPA 3495Kbps Down and 1633Kbps Up.
When I bought the phone I was convinced that would have 4G, I only realized it was not so here in the forum.
There is no way to update radio in order to run 4G?
Thanks
there is no way to upgrade and there is no 4g in portugal. By the time there will be 4g in portugal you will probably buy another phone.
Just relax and enjoy your phone or emigrate to USA )
MiGeCh said:
there is no way to upgrade and there is no 4g in portugal. By the time there will be 4g in portugal you will probably buy another phone.
Just relax and enjoy your phone or emigrate to USA )
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Too bad
It was launched by two networks, by the end of the year covers 90% of the national territory.
Thanks.
My family will be taking a trip to Costa Rica this coming February. You can buy a prepaid SIM card from Kölbi (ICE) at the airport. I've done a little research and it appears that an unlocked phone should work for both voice and 3G data so long as the phone supports Costa Rica's bands, 1800 on GSM and 850 on UMTS.
I've come across an inexpensive Android phones, the Pantech Crossover, that seem to fit the bill. Do you guys think that this phone will work? Other than requesting 3G data and setting the APN, is there anything else I need to do to get 3G data to work?
Thanks!
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My family will be taking a trip to Costa Rica this coming February. You can buy a prepaid SIM card from Kölbi (ICE) at the airport. I've done a little research and it appears that an unlocked phone should work for both voice and 3G data so long as the phone supports Costa Rica's bands, 1800 on GSM and 850 on UMTS.
I've come across an inexpensive Android phones, the Pantech Crossover, that seem to fit the bill. Do you guys think that this phone will work? Other than requesting 3G data and setting the APN, is there anything else I need to do to get 3G data to work?
Thanks!
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Yes it should work but make sure that the phone is SIM unlocked first before you leave on your trip. Then once you get the SIM card put it in the phone and activate it, making sure to request 3g data and setting the APN properly. If you do these things you should be all set.
shimp208 said:
Yes it should work but make sure that the phone is SIM unlocked first before you leave on your trip. Then once you get the SIM card put it in the phone and activate it, making sure to request 3g data and setting the APN properly. If you do these things you should be all set.
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shimp208, thanks for the response. Anybody know how well Google Maps (especially Navigation) works in Costa Rica? Can it create routable directions based on address or POI?
Thanks!
gm2racer said:
shimp208, thanks for the response. Anybody know how well Google Maps (especially Navigation) works in Costa Rica? Can it create routable directions based on address or POI?
Thanks!
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Google maps should work just fine, unfortunately Costa Rica isn't know for having blazing fast mobile data speeds so finding the map routes might take a while to load. That being said yes it can create directions based on address or others points of interest. Overall, it should work fine you just might have to be a little patient with waiting for map directions.
I should have asked this earlier. Are there any other inexpensive Android phones that might fit the bill? I'm looking to spend as little money as possible.
gm2racer said:
I should have asked this earlier. Are there any other inexpensive Android phones that might fit the bill? I'm looking to spend as little money as possible.
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The LG Thrive P506 Black 3G Unlocked Cell Phone should fit the bill for you. Its only $105 and has the required wireless bands, is unlocked, and should be more then enough for a cheap phone to be used for getting some gps directions, making a couple calls, or looking up some points of interest.
shimp208 said:
The LG Thrive P506 Black 3G Unlocked Cell Phone should fit the bill for you. Its only $105 and has the required wireless bands, is unlocked, and should be more then enough for a cheap phone to be used for getting some gps directions, making a couple calls, or looking up some points of interest.
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shimp208, thanks for the suggestion. Since I've got some time before the trip, I'm weighing my options. Currently I'm considering the following:
A used AT&T phone (assuming that I can unlock it) off eBay - under $100
A new unlocked Pantech Crossover - under $70
A new unlocked LG Thrive from NewEgg - $105
A Zopo ZP500 cheap Chinese Android phone, but appears to work on AT&T's frequencies - $170
The reason why I'm sticking the ZP500 into the mix is that it's specs are better than the low end Android phones that I'm also considering. Does anybody have any experience with this phone? Does it do 3G on AT&T's 850Mhz band?
Thanks!
BTW, I posted a question on the TripAdvisor forum for Costa Rica regarding buying a prepaid sim card when I get in country and somebody suggested that I acquire the sim card through costaricacellularconnection before I go and activate the sim/phone when I get in country. Has anybody used this service?
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shimp208, thanks for the suggestion. Since I've got some time before the trip, I'm weighing my options. Currently I'm considering the following:
A used AT&T phone (assuming that I can unlock it) off eBay - under $100
A new unlocked Pantech Crossover - under $70
A new unlocked LG Thrive from NewEgg - $105
A Zopo ZP500 cheap Chinese Android phone, but appears to work on AT&T's frequencies - $170
The reason why I'm sticking the ZP500 into the mix is that it's specs are better than the low end Android phones that I'm also considering. Does anybody have any experience with this phone? Does it do 3G on AT&T's 850Mhz band?
Thanks!
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While I haven't used it personally it seems to have good reviews with people being really happy with the performance you get for the price. And to answer your question about 3G on the 850Mhz band yes that should work.
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shimp208, I wound up getting a used LG Phoenix (the postpaid version of the Thrive) off ebay. Should be arriving tomorrow.
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shimp208, I wound up getting a uses LG Phoenix (the postpaid version of the Thrive) off ebay. Should be arriving tomorrow.
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Just looked at this phone seems like a good choice enjoy your trip
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Unfortunately the Phoenix arrived and had a busted microSD slot as it would not recognize any of my cards. So I wound up getting a new Pantech Burst. Worked out in my favor as the Burst seems to be (at least on paper) a significantly more powerful device (1.5Ghz dual core Snapdragon CPU, 1GB RAM, & 16GB flash).
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Unfortunately the Phoenix arrived and had a busted microSD slot as it would not recognize any of my cards. So I wound up getting a new Pantech Burst. Worked out in my favor as the Burst seems to be (at least on paper) a significantly more powerful device (1.5Ghz dual core Snapdragon CPU, 1GB RAM, & 16GB flash).
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Yes that is a much more powerful device compared to the Phoenix dual 1.2 Ghz (From what I read) vs 800 mhz and 1 GB vs 512 RAM, plus bigger and better screen is the better choice.
Ordered a ZOPO ZP500+
gm2racer said:
A Zopo ZP500 cheap Chinese Android phone, but appears to work on AT&T's frequencies - $170
The reason why I'm sticking the ZP500 into the mix is that it's specs are better than the low end Android phones that I'm also considering. Does anybody have any experience with this phone? Does it do 3G on AT&T's 850Mhz band?
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I ordered a ZOPO ZP500+. I've read it is identical to the ZP500 with the exception that the single core MTK6575 CPU was swapped out with the pin-for-pin-compatible dual core MTK6577. In addition to the dual SIM functionality, I like the fact it is dual core and a quad band where both 2G and 3G should work in Asia, Europe, and North America.
It purports to have 850MHz 3G, and I have read of an Australian user using this phone's 3G with 850MHz and also a Canadian with 3G at 850MHz. It reads to be reasonably popular amongst Russian users. Can't say I know the specifics of AT&T's 850 MHz implementation so I can't comment.
I anticipate delivery of the phone in a week's time, when I am keen to get a good look at it then.
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I ordered a ZOPO ZP500+. I've read it is identical to the ZP500 with the exception that the single core MTK6575 CPU was swapped out with the pin-for-pin-compatible dual core MTK6577. In addition to the dual SIM functionality, I like the fact it is dual core and a quad band where both 2G and 3G should work in Asia, Europe, and North America.
It purports to have 850MHz 3G, and I have read of an Australian user using this phone's 3G with 850MHz and also a Canadian with 3G at 850MHz. It reads to be reasonably popular amongst Russian users. Can't say I know the specifics of AT&T's 850 MHz implementation so I can't comment.
I anticipate delivery of the phone in a week's time, when I am keen to get a good look at it then.
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What specifically are you trying to figure out about AT&T's 850 MHz implementation? Here is a map of where AT&T has 850 MHz 3G coverage in the U.S, if you follow the link and scroll up there should also be a map of AT&T's 1900 MHz spectrum coverage.
3G 850MHz coverage in North America
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What specifically are you trying to figure out about AT&T's 850 MHz implementation? Here is a map of where AT&T has 850 MHz 3G coverage in the U.S, if you follow the link and scroll up there should also be a map of AT&T's 1900 MHz spectrum coverage.
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Those are great maps of AT&T's 850MHz (and 1900 MHz coverage).
I'm not looking for AT&T coverage myself, but rather interested in coverage in Canada (specifically Saskatchewan and also Ontario). I only mentioned AT&T in this thread because of this post in the thread:
gm2racer said:
The reason why I'm sticking the ZP500 into the mix is that it's specs are better than the low end Android phones that I'm also considering. Does anybody have any experience with this phone? Does it do 3G on AT&T's 850Mhz band?
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Again, AT&T is not of interest to me.
Reference my interest in Saskatchewan's and Ontario's coverage, the best I have been able to find so far is this site: http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/index.php
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Those are great maps of AT&T's 850MHz (and 1900 MHz coverage).
I'm not looking for AT&T coverage myself, but rather interested in coverage in Canada (specifically Saskatchewan and also Ontario). I only mentioned AT&T in this thread because of this post in the thread:
Again, AT&T is not of interest to me.
Reference my interest in Saskatchewan's and Ontario's coverage, the best I have been able to find so far is this site: http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/index.php
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If your looking to get coverage in those Canadian areas I would use the website you looked at to find out which carriers have 3G 850 MHz coverage in the areas you want. Then once you know what carriers have coverage in the areas you want, I'd go out and buy a prepaid SIM from among the the carrier that offers the coverage your looking for and then go with whatever carrier has the best value for the money in terms of data usage, etc. and use that.
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I ordered a ZOPO ZP500+. I've read it is identical to the ZP500 with the exception that the single core MTK6575 CPU was swapped out with the pin-for-pin-compatible dual core MTK6577. In addition to the dual SIM functionality, I like the fact it is dual core and a quad band where both 2G and 3G should work in Asia, Europe, and North America.
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Let us know how the Zopo works out. I'm interested in knowing how well these Chinese MTK6575/6577 phones work. Had I not gotten a great deal on a new Burst on eBay I would have really been considering one of these. An interesting development (at least in the GSM space) is that the Nexus 4 is within $100 US of most of the currently available Chinese dual core phones. That will put a real price squeeze on the next gen quad core phones...
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Let us know how the Zopo works out. I'm interested in knowing how well these Chinese MTK6575/6577 phones work. Had I not gotten a great deal on a new Burst on eBay I would have really been considering one of these. An interesting development (at least in the GSM space) is that the Nexus 4 is within $100 US of most of the currently available Chinese dual core phones. That will put a real price squeeze on the next gen quad core phones...
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Sure will, to me unless your really on a tight budget it seems like a no brainer to invest the extra $100 or so for not only significantly more powerful hardware but also a lot better community support due to the very open nature of nexus devices.
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Maybe it's just my games talking, but the Xperia Play is pretty cheap unlocked now.