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Hello everyone, how are you?
I'm new to this Board and pretty much new to Android too. I got myself a shiny new HTC Hero about 1 Month ago and this Phone is perfectly what i'm looking for. I love it to the Bits, but have one huge Problem, which i wasn't able to solve yet:
My Phone, even now after the Update is extremely lagging and behaving weird. First i noticed after some Time using it, that my Hero started to change Screens from itself, always running to the Screen on the far right Side. Now it becomes worse every day. Its most notable when i'm going out of the Standby Mode. It takes about 5 Seconds until it reacts to any Inputs. It takes like another 5 Seconds until it works in kinda normal Speed. And since 2 Days or so, i constantly see the Error "TouchFLO" not reacting. Force it to close or wait.. This appears more constant everyday now and made the Hero really difficult to use.
I have been on Symbian a long long Time and i'm very satisfied that i finally took the Jump to Android, but this annoys the Hell out of me.
So if anyone has a Hint on how to solve this Problem, i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks
Michael
MichaelSF said:
Hello everyone, how are you?
I'm new to this Board and pretty much new to Android too. I got myself a shiny new HTC Hero about 1 Month ago and this Phone is perfectly what i'm looking for. I love it to the Bits, but have one huge Problem, which i wasn't able to solve yet:
My Phone, even now after the Update is extremely lagging and behaving weird. First i noticed after some Time using it, that my Hero started to change Screens from itself, always running to the Screen on the far right Side. Now it becomes worse every day. Its most notable when i'm going out of the Standby Mode. It takes about 5 Seconds until it reacts to any Inputs. It takes like another 5 Seconds until it works in kinda normal Speed. And since 2 Days or so, i constantly see the Error "TouchFLO" not reacting. Force it to close or wait.. This appears more constant everyday now and made the Hero really difficult to use.
I have been on Symbian a long long Time and i'm very satisfied that i finally took the Jump to Android, but this annoys the Hell out of me.
So if anyone has a Hint on how to solve this Problem, i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks
Michael
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I had this problem and found it was something like dust stuck under the trackball making it move. I pushed and spun the trackball a few times and that seemed to solve it for me.
i dont think the Trackball is the Problem. It seems more like a software issue, as those TouchFLO Software Issues keep appearing and appearing and make the Phone more and more not usable
MichaelSF said:
i dont think the Trackball is the Problem. It seems more like a software issue, as those TouchFLO Software Issues keep appearing and appearing and make the Phone more and more not usable
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MichelSF, I too faced the same problem from time to time. I am not sure of what you mean when you say that the TouchFLO software keeps on appearing from time to time. In my case the screens would move over to the right automagically and all I used to do was move the trackball a bit and it would stop. I can still see that occasionally but it is fixed when i move the trackball. I would therefore concur with nicelad_uk that the trackball gets stuck and that causes this behaviour.
BTW, you said something about the update, what did you update it to? I updated mine to the modaco 2.2 rom and its been all fine ever since. I do occasionally see a stutter on certain menus but am happy with it. If it helps you any bit, you could install the android sdk and use the 'adb logcat -v time' command to view the debug messages that the phone churns out. You would also need to install htcsync and so on and that would indicate what the phone's doing while being unresponsive.
HTH.
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I am not sure of what you mean when you say that the TouchFLO software keeps on appearing from time to time.
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i get an error pop-up that TouchFLO is not reacting.I can then either wait or force it to close. If i force it to close, the whole Start Screen is rebooting, but not the Phone. So i can access the Menu and Notification Bar, but it takes a bit until the Start Screen appears again - i hope you Guys get what i mean by that! A good Friend said this could be a Memory Leak, or being caused by Widgets that doesnt work well. I have now disabled most of the Widgets i have (Music Player, Mails, Messages, Weather), now just using the Clock and a Contact Bar. Strangely, the Phone works really well now again ..
...Man, this is confusing and annoying!
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BTW, you said something about the update, what did you update it to? I updated mine to the modaco 2.2 rom and its been all fine ever since. I do occasionally see a stutter on certain menus but am happy with it. If it helps you any bit, you could install the android sdk and use the 'adb logcat -v time' command to view the debug messages that the phone churns out. You would also need to install htcsync and so on and that would indicate what the phone's doing while being unresponsive.
HTH.
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phew .. to be honest, i dont know really to what exactly we updated it. My Buddy updated it to the latest Version.. i'm such a newb on android, sorry
You need to ask your buddy if he wiped before he updated the ROM.
Regards,
Dave
ah yes, he did ..
thanks a lot for the suggestions so far.. still have all the widgets gone from the home screens, still all good.. strange
Ok, this is not some whining thread about the x10, so if you want to whine, go somewhere else...
Now that's the disclaimer out of the way...
Is anyone finding their x10 is just getting worse on 1.6...?
I never had any real issues except the occasional freeze, which now seems to have partially resolved itself, but now the following issues are starting to creep in, which I have never ever had before (these have all started in the last week or so)
Phone will just hang up when I'm in the middle of a conversation
Mobile Data seems to just not want to connect/turn on
Widgets seem un-responsive - they often don't recognise that I'm tapping them
Phone reboots by itself
Incredible sluggishness (like 10 seconds to respond) to certain events
I'm not asking if you've had these kind of issues for ever - all phones seem to have some stupid quirk that stops them working properly (mine was freezes) - I really want to know if any one else's phone has just recently started to deteriorate on its own (I haven't dropped it, rooted it, changed it, kicked it or anything)
I'm just hoping that when my carrier 2.1 comes along, these things will fix themselves...
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Ok, this is not some whining thread about the x10, so if you want to whine, go somewhere else...
Now that's the disclaimer out of the way...
Is anyone finding their x10 is just getting worse on 1.6...?
I never had any real issues except the occasional freeze, which now seems to have partially resolved itself, but now the following issues are starting to creep in, which I have never ever had before (these have all started in the last week or so)
Phone will just hang up when I'm in the middle of a conversation
Mobile Data seems to just not want to connect/turn on
Widgets seem un-responsive - they often don't recognise that I'm tapping them
Phone reboots by itself
Incredible sluggishness (like 10 seconds to respond) to certain events
I'm not asking if you've had these kind of issues for ever - all phones seem to have some stupid quirk that stops them working properly (mine was freezes) - I really want to know if any one else's phone has just recently started to deteriorate on its own (I haven't dropped it, rooted it, changed it, kicked it or anything)
I'm just hoping that when my carrier 2.1 comes along, these things will fix themselves...
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I've always had these problems since i installed 2.1, i've been waiting for it to go away Well actually I've only had the last issue, ie sluggishness
With 2.1, I'm sure that most of your issue will be fixed
I rarly get lagg; I only get lag when I'm running like 10-15 different applications as once!
Only thing that sucks about xperia though is that there is WAY to much BLUE on it
But I'm sure you'll be happy with 2.1
My main concern is that these things have crept up just recently... it's just odd...
CAnt connect through my PC anymore via cable, also very sluggish.
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CAnt connect through my PC anymore via cable, also very sluggish.
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You're on 2.1 though... could be to do with your update - I'm talking about 1.6 just getting worse...
Unless, of course everything was fine when you updated, and now it starting to get worse...
I've had some unresponsiveness while clicking widgets or accessing the menu
Camera seems to be slower when trying to access
think so far it's all
Yeah, the same thing has been happening to me for the last couple of weeks. Phone has been freezing, acting oddly or slow, and rebooting on its own.
The big disclaimer here is that I'd recently updated a bunch of my apps, so I figured the issue may lay with one of those, and with 2.1 coming shortly (hopefully, Rogers!), I can't be bothered uninstalling then one by one to see if I'm right. If the issues continue post-2.1, then I'll have to start tinkering.
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Reboot problem
There are many pple with the reboot problem, check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831658
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You're on 2.1 though... could be to do with your update - I'm talking about 1.6 just getting worse...
Unless, of course everything was fine when you updated, and now it starting to get worse...
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Exactly what I mean
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So 2.1 has finally arrived. After flashing it using the Global Flash-tool version as I have a Dutch branded X10i it seemed extremely slow, at first I waited and waited. No result.
After checking with 'Android System Info' and 'System Panel' the CPU usage is between 99% and 100%. Constantly!
It's strange that no process is using 100%, at some point 'acore' is using 100%, not all the time.
Is anyone else having the same problem? Lag anyone? Check your CPU usage!
I've all-ready re-flashed and rooted twice. Same issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833786
Devtone said:
So 2.1 has finally arrived. After flashing it using the Global Flash-tool version as I have a Dutch branded X10i it seemed extremely slow, at first I waited and waited. No result.
After checking with 'Android System Info' and 'System Panel' the CPU usage is between 99% and 100%. Constantly!
It's strange that no process is using 100%, at some point 'acore' is using 100%, not all the time.
Is anyone else having the same problem? Lag anyone? Check your CPU usage!
I've all-ready re-flashed and rooted twice. Same issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833786
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Fixed it!
1. Updated with Flashtool
2. Formated SD and removed all pictures (1000+)
3. Factory reset
4. Restore with PCC 2.0
5. Factory reset
6. Format SD
NO MORE LAG!
After updating this morning to .15, I just got the random reboot since before the .13 update. Using ICS+ browser.
Am I the only one? This sucks. Gary Key, I've already sent you a PM.
Please don't fill this thread stating .15 is working perfectly for you. I already know it is working well for most people.
How many reboots?
In over 48 hours I have had only 1 reboot and I believe it was my fault. I was using the stock browser and was trying to do too much at once and not letting it catch up.
If your having multiple reboots that is a different story.
Just one thus far. How can any reboot be "your fault"?
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Just one thus far. How can any reboot be "your fault"?
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Really guy, you created a thread because of one reboot??? An issue would be if you had constant reboots, not just one. Every tablet I have owned rebooted now an then, it happens. Now lets see all the 'me toos' pop up now.
after the update gta3 doesnt work for me anymore anyone has the same issue. I clear data then uninstall and reinstall the apk nothing. It will work all the way up until the load is almost finish and it gets stuck on the load screen. Freaking A
update: now Age of Zombies lets me play for a while and then its goes black and restarts the game. WTF before the update it did not do this!
Going to restart the tablet and hope this fixes whatever is going on
update 2: looks like that solved it thank god,
so guys basic troubleshooting restart your devices and see if the problem continues
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so guys basic troubleshooting restart your devices and see if the problem continues
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That's very good advice, you should always reboot after an update.
My prime started restarting when i had my xbox dongle in the USB slot today. Had about 5 reboots today. Never had a reboot before(well probably once every three/month).
One restart isnt something to be concerned about.
I have had one reboot since receiving the update yesterday.
My iPad reboots every now and then. No computer is perfect....
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My iPad reboots every now and then. No computer is perfect....
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I disagree, reboots are NOT normal, I had the Xoom since the day it was released till two weeks ago, and never had spontaneous reboots like the Prime does(I also had no issues with the Galaxy Tab, and the HTC Flyer.) App crashes, Apps not working till reboot are one thing but I am getting reboots on .15 when even trying to run Market updates. I have hard reset and had the market reload my apps and the problem came back the very next day. I just returned my unit to Frys since it was my last day in my return window. I also had a problem with the covers on the USB cable sliding off and if I plugged the charger upside-down I would get a slight shock from the back of the Prime.
They did not have any in stock to exchange, which might have been a blessing. I am going to wait and see how future shakes out before trying again.
My theory(unscientific) is the the Prime is using very slow NAND Flash memory for storage. I had the 64gb version and when writing to the storage it seems to take a lot longer than the Xoom. If I had 6 or 7 market updates on the Xoom it would take 30 to 40 seconds to download and install, the Prime would take 2 to 3 minutes(if it did not reboot itself before completing.). I would constantly get the Wait/Cancel prompt on the stock browser when a website was almost done loading, and writing cache to the NAND Flash.
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My iPad reboots every now and then. No computer is perfect....
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Lockups and reboots are no different then a BSOD on a PC its 100% not normal and or acceptable.
docangle said:
I disagree, reboots are NOT normal, I had the Xoom since the day it was released till two weeks ago, and never had spontaneous reboots like the Prime does(I also had no issues with the Galaxy Tab, and the HTC Flyer.) App crashes, Apps not working till reboot are one thing but I am getting reboots on .15 when even trying to run Market updates. I have hard reset and had the market reload my apps and the problem came back the very next day. I just returned my unit to Frys since it was my last day in my return window. I also had a problem with the covers on the USB cable sliding off and if I plugged the charger upside-down I would get a slight shock from the back of the Prime.
They did not have any in stock to exchange, which might have been a blessing. I am going to wait and see how future shakes out before trying again.
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I agree, while my desktop PC seems to average between 5 - 10 a year, my blackberry playbook has had none so devices that don't randomly reboot are possible to make. In truth, though I love the Prime it has had the most random reboots of any device I have.
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I agree, while my desktop PC seems to average between 5 - 10 a year, my blackberry playbook has had none so devices that don't randomly reboot are possible to make. In truth, though I love the Prime it has had the most random reboots of any device I have.
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My two year old PC has never had reboots, in applicaion crash on occasion. I think the key is the stability and quality of the components being used, and in this case ASUS is cutting corners to keep the price low. Look at the threads with peoples screens lifiting and dust under the screens.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Prime and I will probably get another when some of the issues get sorted out.
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My two year old PC has never had reboots, in applicaion crash on occasion. I think the key is the stability and quality of the components being used, and in this case ASUS is cutting corners to keep the price low. Look at the threads with peoples screens lifiting and dust under the screens.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Prime and I will probably get another when some of the issues get sorted out.
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Its because of the Tegra3 i wouldnt call it cutting corners exactly however their quality control has been pretty terrible with the Primes.
I agree. Reboots are not normal. I have never had a single reboot on my desktop that I built or my laptop. The only time my phone has ever rebooted was due to a known issue with an ota, which is fixed. I NEVER had a reboot with my prime until. 15.
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I am experiencing lots of reboots
I was watching a flash video in the browser when this started. The tablet kept on rebooting itself over 15 times in a row....i had to use a paper clip in order to reset it. tablet has about 15% of charge left when this started. I am not sure if it related. This issue never occurred until this last .15 update. Also i noticed now they have the application not responding dialog box appears when an application hangs "IMBD", however after you hit kill the application it doesn't do anything and the tablet reboot itself withing 10 sec. ASUS when are you going to be able to fix this?
No reboot so far for five days.
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I was watching a flash video in the browser when this started. The tablet kept on rebooting itself over 15 times in a row....i had to use a paper clip in order to reset it. tablet has about 15% of charge left when this started. I am not sure if it related. This issue never occurred until this last .15 update. Also i noticed now they have the application not responding dialog box appears when an application hangs "IMBD", however after you hit kill the application it doesn't do anything and the tablet reboot itself withing 10 sec. ASUS when are you going to be able to fix this?
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^^^
This. After I installed new flash update I keep rebooting when I play youtube video. Kept rebooting 3 times in a row. Won't go near youtube again until it is fixed. Happened in dolphin. Seems to happen every time.
I just installed AndroWook rom. I didn't want to, not really. I was hoping to never have to unlock my prime. But then there was the thread about performance, and the other one about users not being able to unlock. How could I possibly walk away from that kind of a challenge? So I downloaded it just to see if it would work. And it did. So then I had to install TWRP, and then I had to install a rom.
So I installed AndroWook with Motley 3.0.5 and all the tweeks it had to offer.
I didn't wipe, I cleared cache and dalvik. I have nearly 2 years of screwing around on an HTC desire, so I felt comfortable with this level of deleting. Everything booted up properly, no apps were missing and everything (as of now) is working at least as well as before.
Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster). My jaw dropped.
I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
Appreciate the oppinion. Would like to hear more from your experiences with custom firmware as I'm also very unsatisfied with stock rom.
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Appreciate the oppinion. Would like to hear more from your experiences with custom firmware as I'm also very unsatisfied with stock rom.
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Well I've been up for about 2 hours now, and while I'm not sure if it 'feels' a lot of faster, but I haven't had screen tear issues. I'll keep running this rom for at least a week and I'll update if anything changes. If there's anything you'd like me to test (as long as it is free or I already have it) let me know!
Parastie, you sound just like me almost. I've been twitching at all these challenges being presented before me. Failed unlocks, failed roots, better performance. How I've managed to resist unlocking so far is beyond me. My poor desire s didn't last so long, its been flashed so many times I don't think it knows what kind of device it even is anymore.
So you say file transfer is slow on stock, eh? I must witness this. Might be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. The one last push to unlocking.
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Parastie said:
Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster). My jaw dropped.
I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
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Welcome to the club!
So when you say copying from thumb drive to internal memory, you mean via the usb port on the dock right? (must be because I can't think of how else you would be doing it.)
The reason I ask is, I've been unlocked for a while, but haven't done any thumb drive to internal memory copying since I unlocked. I also found this unbelievably slow when running stock though (and all the starting and stopping made me think WTF???)
Gotta try it out tonight.
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Welcome to the club!
So when you say copying from thumb drive to internal memory, you mean via the usb port on the dock right? (must be because I can't think of how else you would be doing it.)
The reason I ask is, I've been unlocked for a while, but haven't done any thumb drive to internal memory copying since I unlocked. I also found this unbelievably slow when running stock though (and all the starting and stopping made me think WTF???)
Gotta try it out tonight.
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Yeah the copying to internal memory was the most annoying. Slow as dirt, it makes putting HD movies on this thing impossible. I've only tried one file, but I'm going to try another large file when I get some time.
Also note, screen tearing still happens. I got it to stop by locking the screen for a few seconds, but that's still an issue.
Parastie, you sound just like me almost. I've been twitching at all these challenges being presented before me. Failed unlocks, failed roots, better performance. How I've managed to resist unlocking so far is beyond me. My poor desire s didn't last so long, its been flashed so many times I don't think it knows what kind of device it even is anymore.
So you say file transfer is slow on stock, eh? I must witness this. Might be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. The one last push to unlocking.
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Anyone know if handwriting notetaking is better with any custom roms? My biggest problem with the prime has been how bad the digitizer seems to be (as in trying to draw a diagonal line the prime makes a crazy wavy line). Touchscreen tune helps but doesn't fully fix the problem.
Not sure if this is something a ROM can really fix or not.
It does help some, I can tell the difference in a well performing rom by using handwriting apps. The handwriting apps when a rom is slow or sluggish don't keep up, kind of like an underpowered android phone and keyboard lag. But when performing properly, the handwriting is more accurate and keeps up with the stylus or finger, in my experiences.
Without seeing your problem, I can't say if it's because of your software and/or configuration, or if it's some very strange hardware problem that software can't fix. But I can tell you that typically a tablets performance overall greatly affects how things react to the touch screen and how the graphics render.
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Well I've been up for about 2 hours now, and while I'm not sure if it 'feels' a lot of faster, but I haven't had screen tear issues. I'll keep running this rom for at least a week and I'll update if anything changes. If there's anything you'd like me to test (as long as it is free or I already have it) let me know!
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Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
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I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
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I won't defend asus as far a knowing what they are doing but I have never used a stock mobile device that could not be drastically improved by dedicated developers. The hardware companies are only focused on a product as long as it takes to hit a shelf and then by and large you are on your own. Thats why this is the best site on the internet for non sheep type people.
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Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
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This sounds like a text book app or widget problem and not a device problem.
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Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
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if you want to keep the facebook app, try turning off wifi when you turn the tablet off before you go to bed. super easy with the dock and i've gotten in the habit of doing so myself. i see 1-2% battery drain on teh tablet overnight, and <1% on teh dock. you might also want to try setting wifi to not stay on during sleep by default in settings, but idk if a wakelock via facebook would fix this.
also, did you try clearing data and cache or restarting and it still did this? anyways, sorry to be so OT to the OP. PM me if you want to chat about this some more.
I also bit the bullet yesterday.
Unfortunately my experience was not so good...
1. Unlocked, installed TRWP, made backup (and titanium).
2. Wipe device.
3. Install Androwook.
4. Tried to restore Titanium backup on to find it will prompt you twice for every app (I was not going to do this for 150 odd apps).
5. Go back to recovery, wipe device, and restore backup (this 'only' took about 30 minutes...).
6. Reboot, took about 15 minutes to boot.
7. My home screen was messed up, none of my installed apps would run, only the apps included in ROM.
8. Go back to recovery, wipe again, and installed AndroWook again.
9. Spent the entire day downloading apps from the play store again.
During the last step, the poor tablet consistently froze and even had a random reboot. Play store ANR'd about 15 times...
Eventually had everything back installed, but all my 'user data' is lost (hopefully I can recover this with Titanium if needed).
To be honest. It does not really feel any different. No OOOOHH's and AAAAAHH's like everyone says.
So now I have 2 problems. A useless tablet and no bloody warranty.
To top this off, I discovered another dead pixel (white one, not so noticeable) yesterday.
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4. Tried to restore Titanium backup on to find it will prompt you twice for every app (I was not going to do this for 150 odd apps).
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The paid version of Titanium Backup allows for one-click batch restoring...
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Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster).
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Thats the only thing which is bugging me on the stock rom. Can others confirm this major improvement? Can anyone say what is responsible for this I/O enhancement? Is it the ROM (IO schedulers) or is it Motleys kernel?
Stefan
Parastie said:
Yeah the copying to internal memory was the most annoying. Slow as dirt, it makes putting HD movies on this thing impossible. I've only tried one file, but I'm going to try another large file when I get some time.
Also note, screen tearing still happens. I got it to stop by locking the screen for a few seconds, but that's still an issue.
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I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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Wouldn't be a surprise as they're based off the stock rom.
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I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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Well screen tearing still happens here. Of course, I did not do a full wipe and I'm running Wook which is based on stock. It is possible that AOKP or CM9 would not have this problem. I was going for what most people said was the fastest. As far as day-to-day use goes, after a full day I don't really see a huge difference. It was great before, and it still is.
BongoBong said:
Anyone know if handwriting notetaking is better with any custom roms? My biggest problem with the prime has been how bad the digitizer seems to be (as in trying to draw a diagonal line the prime makes a crazy wavy line). Touchscreen tune helps but doesn't fully fix the problem.
Not sure if this is something a ROM can really fix or not.
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I suspect JB ROMs will be better at this as it bumps-up the CPU speed for user interactions.
I have been using my AT&T black Lumia920 for about 2 weeks now. It runs Portico out of box (maybe, dont actually remember). I have been a WP7 user since launch so I know how windows phone works.
The first 3 days on Lumia 920 were fine, everything went well, however starting from the 4th morning I noticed the phone wont wake up by pressing the power button, nor did the alarm sound. I had to soft reset to power up the phone. So simply it's sleep of death. This happens every night and occasionally happen during day time when I leave the phone for a few hours.
4 days ago I cant bear the problem anymore so did a hard reset then flashed Rogers ROM on it. However after I reinstall some of my previous apps the phone wont wake up again. I looked into the backgroud loading apps and uninstalled Engadget, the phone did make it to the next morning. However after I got a few other apps from the marketplace the phone is dead in mornings again. I cant figure out if this is an app issue or system issue this time.
Anyone else having this problem? Should I request a replacement phone?
amtrakcn said:
I have been using my AT&T black Lumia920 for about 2 weeks now. It runs Portico out of box (maybe, dont actually remember). I have been a WP7 user since launch so I know how windows phone works.
The first 3 days on Lumia 920 were fine, everything went well, however starting from the 4th morning I noticed the phone wont wake up by pressing the power button, nor did the alarm sound. I had to soft reset to power up the phone. So simply it's sleep of death. This happens every night and occasionally happen during day time when I leave the phone for a few hours.
4 days ago I cant bear the problem anymore so did a hard reset then flashed Rogers ROM on it. However after I reinstall some of my previous apps the phone wont wake up again. I looked into the backgroud loading apps and uninstalled Engadget, the phone did make it to the next morning. However after I got a few other apps from the marketplace the phone is dead in mornings again. I cant figure out if this is an app issue or system issue this time.
Anyone else having this problem? Should I request a replacement phone?
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I have this same issue but I on;y have it at home where cell signal is garbage.
If I'm at work (in the city) i have zero issues.
If I work from home the phone will SOD more than once in an 8 hour period.
I'm curious, do you have a strong signal all of the time?
quiksandjesus said:
I have this same issue but I on;y have it at home where cell signal is garbage.
If I'm at work (in the city) i have zero issues.
If I work from home the phone will SOD more than once in an 8 hour period.
I'm curious, do you have a strong signal all of the time?
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Signal is medicore at home where I charge, I use the phone a lot during the day so I cant really tell if SOD happens when siganl is good.
I don't think it has to do with the Signal. Me and my wife both have the Lumia 920 on the same Network, my wife never had this issue, I have it almost every day... I'm currently trying to get a replacement.
that happened to me once or twice before flashing portico, after flashing it never happened again
amtrakcn said:
I have been using my AT&T black Lumia920 for about 2 weeks now. It runs Portico out of box (maybe, dont actually remember). I have been a WP7 user since launch so I know how windows phone works.
The first 3 days on Lumia 920 were fine, everything went well, however starting from the 4th morning I noticed the phone wont wake up by pressing the power button, nor did the alarm sound. I had to soft reset to power up the phone. So simply it's sleep of death. This happens every night and occasionally happen during day time when I leave the phone for a few hours.
4 days ago I cant bear the problem anymore so did a hard reset then flashed Rogers ROM on it. However after I reinstall some of my previous apps the phone wont wake up again. I looked into the backgroud loading apps and uninstalled Engadget, the phone did make it to the next morning. However after I got a few other apps from the marketplace the phone is dead in mornings again. I cant figure out if this is an app issue or system issue this time.
Anyone else having this problem? Should I request a replacement phone?
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I've had this issue, I really never payed too much attention to it but its happening more often lately, with my wife having power button issues on her iphone 5 I began to think that mine was too having the same problem. But I can actually feel the button clicking which is something I can't feel with my wife's phone.
Nokia store updates to blame?
I've been having the same issue since I bought the device. It only wakes up after pressing the VolDown-Power combination.
My device has been running the Portico update out-of-the-box (8.0.10211.204).
To see if I could pinpoint the issue, I have been wiping my device and start all over. The wipe has been done last Friday night.
About 30 minutes after initial installation it prompts me for 6 Nokia updates:
* access Point
* network+
* accessories
* audio
* display+touch
* extras+info
This time, for the first time, I have NOT applied any of these updates, and until now it has not hung.
Another thing I noticed in the past is that when I disconnect from the charger (either cabled or wireless) it makes a sound.
After applying these updates in the past that sound was gone.
I will see if my phone keeps working throughout the week and then install the updates to see what happens next.
Loki1973 said:
I've been having the same issue since I bought the device. It only wakes up after pressing the VolDown-Power combination.
My device has been running the Portico update out-of-the-box (8.0.10211.204).
To see if I could pinpoint the issue, I have been wiping my device and start all over. The wipe has been done last Friday night.
About 30 minutes after initial installation it prompts me for 6 Nokia updates:
* access Point
* network+
* accessories
* audio
* display+touch
* extras+info
This time, for the first time, I have NOT applied any of these updates, and until now it has not hung.
Another thing I noticed in the past is that when I disconnect from the charger (either cabled or wireless) it makes a sound.
After applying these updates in the past that sound was gone.
I will see if my phone keeps working throughout the week and then install the updates to see what happens next.
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I tried the same, didn't work. Then what I did was uninstalling each one of those apps (my update list was bigger but some i couldn't uninstall as they were system settings) and then installing them back on the device instead of updating. No "SOD's" since, and i've had a lot. Hope it stays this way Either way I'm hoping the next update from nokia will fix these kinds of things.
Cheers!
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I tried the same, didn't work. Then what I did was uninstalling each one of those apps (my update list was bigger but some i couldn't uninstall as they were system settings) and then installing them back on the device instead of updating. No "SOD's" since, and i've had a lot. Hope it stays this way Either way I'm hoping the next update from nokia will fix these kinds of things.
Cheers!
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I have the same problem but I think that is related to notifications, after uninstalling apps that used push notifications the phone last longer before it goes to SOD. If I use skype and whatsapp a lot the phone SOD more often and more frecuent too when I have it in my pants pockets.
I've never tried not installing the updates and the phone is wih the carrier so I can't test
I had several issues with this, and here on the forums I have made several posts thinking it was because the Keep WiFi on. But it is not!
I think it might be Battery App related. Or some other app, as some1 noted, possibly because of push notifications.
I had the last SOD several days ago, I have turned on Keep WiFi on, no SOD so far, yet before it was like several hrs after it was turned on. Also, I had overheating of the device on 2 occasions, then I have uninstalled EverNote, and everything worked fine. Again 4-5 dasys ago I had the second overheating issue, and the phone was in stand-by whole the time, I turned it off, waited 30 secs, turned it back on, no issues so far.
So, for now I cannot say what the trouble is except it is NOT OS related, it is APP related (probably an app with push notification).
The solution? Pretty unpopular, but that is the only 1, except for hard reset. Uninstall all the non-system apps from the phone, and install them back 1 by 1, and testing each app at least 24 hrs.
So far, the "safe apps" are:
[My] Windowsphone
2013 FIa Formula 1
Accuweather
Any Converter
App Deals
Archiver
Assistant WP7
Box
Battery
Chrync
Cloudy Box
XE Currency
Flashlight
GDrive
GSMArena RSS
HERE (all of them)
Michelin travel
MSN
myAppFree
NFC Interactor
PDF Reader (from pompolutz)
Ringtones
Shift Scheduler
Shrink Storage
Skype
Speedtest
Speedtest.net
Viber
Wake My PC
WhatsApp
WPCentral
Ofcourse this list is far from final, but it will give u some idea what I am using, and so far I have no SODs (Thank God)
How long has it been since the last SOD?
miodrage said:
I had several issues with this, and here on the forums I have made several posts thinking it was because the Keep WiFi on. But it is not!
I think it might be Battery App related. Or some other app, as some1 noted, possibly because of push notifications.
I had the last SOD several days ago, I have turned on Keep WiFi on, no SOD so far, yet before it was like several hrs after it was turned on. Also, I had overheating of the device on 2 occasions, then I have uninstalled EverNote, and everything worked fine. Again 4-5 dasys ago I had the second overheating issue, and the phone was in stand-by whole the time, I turned it off, waited 30 secs, turned it back on, no issues so far.
So, for now I cannot say what the trouble is except it is NOT OS related, it is APP related (probably an app with push notification).
The solution? Pretty unpopular, but that is the only 1, except for hard reset. Uninstall all the non-system apps from the phone, and install them back 1 by 1, and testing each app at least 24 hrs.
So far, the "safe apps" are:
[My] Windowsphone
2013 FIa Formula 1
Accuweather
Any Converter
App Deals
Archiver
Assistant WP7
Box
Battery
Chrync
Cloudy Box
XE Currency
Flashlight
GDrive
GSMArena RSS
HERE (all of them)
Michelin travel
MSN
myAppFree
NFC Interactor
PDF Reader (from pompolutz)
Ringtones
Shift Scheduler
Shrink Storage
Skype
Speedtest
Speedtest.net
Viber
Wake My PC
WhatsApp
WPCentral
Ofcourse this list is far from final, but it will give u some idea what I am using, and so far I have no SODs (Thank God)
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In the last 3 weeks I had 1 SOD, that last one 8 days ago. And that happened very strangely, I have received an email (heard the sound), and since my phone was in my hand I immediatelly pressed the power button, and the screen didn't come on. Tried 2 more times, and I knew what happened, so I did a soft reset and that was that. From that time, no SODs.
Is this issue limited to certain ROMS or non AT$T models? I have had mine for 3 months now and have yet to have the SOD and I have even recently ran the OTA update and still no SOD two weeks after that OTA.
I got the same issue with my Lumia 920 (European network/sim unlocked). Happened once after night and already twice during the day... . Phone has all latest updates installed... no idea what to do...
galtom said:
I got the same issue with my Lumia 920 (European network/sim unlocked). Happened once after night and already twice during the day... . Phone has all latest updates installed... no idea what to do...
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Review what apps u have installed. I think I have proven that it is push, and app related. Possibly even some battery app is responsible for this. Try uninstalling some apps, and to see what will happen.
Well, basically I got my phone back from the carrier it passed 5 days of monitoring without SOD and after 24 hours in my hands it happened. I did a hardreset to my phone to clear all my info before giving it to the carrier and now I'm sure that is some kind of app or at least a function that isn't often used by the OS.
I don't know if a flash could fix the issue since not everyone is experiencing the problem.
In my case it seems that the issue is increasing in its frequency...
I think I will have to go to Nokia Care Centre
1308 update seems to have solved this issue. At least 4 me.
My phone does not show any updates available
Got my phone yesterday and today it was in SOD. Luckily I woke up earlier than planned. Have a meeting today and things like this is fatal.
I need to be able to rely on the alarm on my phone.
Is there some way of disabling push notifications for apps, like in iOS? That would help a lot in this case, as it seems it's caused by push notifications.
Regards
Izaac