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I was thinking of buying an S4 to replace my rezound. If I don't let the Verizon people touch it or turn it on, what are the chances that the phone will NOT have root breaking OTA?
Thanks
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If you use a discounted upgrade price they are not going to let you walk out with them activating it.
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H3Dude said:
If you use a discounted upgrade price they are not going to let you walk out with them activating it.
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Discounted upgrades were discontinued earlier this year. You purchase just like you were a new customer.
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warnette said:
Discounted upgrades were discontinued earlier this year. You purchase just like you were a new customer.
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I think he means if you purchase one with a 2 year contract.
Buy online...
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Buy online...
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Yeah I meant to year contract but this will work for sure.
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warnette said:
I was thinking of buying an S4 to replace my rezound. If I don't let the Verizon people touch it or turn it on, what are the chances that the phone will NOT have root breaking OTA?
Thanks
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I used my two year upgrade at flywire. Com
Came with mdk
When I first got my phone at the store I told them not to open it and they didn't. I told them I was in a hurry and that I'll activate it later.
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I bought my S4 from Best Buy last Saturday. They made me activate it and set it up, but it only began to download the update. When the update notification asked me to install the update, I said "wait 23 hours". When the 23 hours were over, I instructed it to wait 23 more hours. In that time, I was able to root my phone, install a custom recovery, freeze the update APK, install Darkside's ME7 rom, and sigh with relief. Also came from the Rezound. It was a good choice.
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One more day than necessary with this busted Rezound may kill me.
Thanks for all the info, I'm going to try the hurried customer approach.
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Just bought my S4 from best buy 2 days ago it came with the mdk firmware first thing I did was turn off mobile data to make sure the update could not download. Rooted unlocked and had CM 10.2 on my S4 within the first hour. Just make sure when you buy the phone you turn off WiFi and data that way the update can't download
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Also just came from the Rezound. They sure fooled us on that one. Gd paperclip hack. Those Norweigens sure are innovative
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Also just came from the Rezound. They sure fooled us on that one. Gd paperclip hack. Those Norweigens sure are innovative
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Don't get me started on the Rezound, by far the worst phone I have ever owned.
Anyway, just got back from Verizon. They said they wouldn't let the phone take the update before I got it, and it was pre update. So all is wel.
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Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
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dmt010 said:
Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
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Esquew me? Me no thinks it's unlockable
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I think you meant that you rooted it and got custom recovery installed on the pre-updated MDK. No one has unlocked the bootloader on any S4 came with it locked.
There never was an unlocked bootloader save for the developer edition only available direct from Samsung.
Development for the i545 is far from dying if you look through the forum. The fact that the bounty for root and recovery on ME7 is several thousand dollars should be telling.
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I agree. This is one of the most popular devices out at the moment. I dont see development dying out anytime soon.
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Its fine at the moment and in the near future but could see it lose some people once Note 3 and other devices come out esp if bootloader exploit isn't found on new update
There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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Have you looked in the development sections to see that there are plenty of developers committed to the furthering of development?
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theboo7 said:
There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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bajasur said:
You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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heath2805 said:
Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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That's a bummer.. sorry man. Just have to keep praying someone will unlock this thing...
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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This. But there's evidence all around (check forums) that devs tend to stop developing for devices with to small of a user base.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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GE phones are fine and dandy but none exist for VZW, just like VZW has no nexus phones, because they want complete control over the devices and the software.
I currently have an S3 and when my contracts runs out I will either move to another carrier and buy GE phones or buy Dev phones off contract for verizon, but I'm more inclined to go elsewhere and go with GE phones.
When it's announced(hopefully) I'll be ordering my developer edition note 3. As far as the gs4 goes, I only know of 1 developer who stopped developing for the gs4. No one else who has started has quit.
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dmt010 said:
Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
Thoughts?
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I've had similar concerns. I took it as a reason to learn some of this stuff on my own. I've been building cm 10.2 from source to start. That said, I'm less concerned about development now but I will continue to learn how to do as much as I can on my own. I just hope I never physically damage the phone beyond usability. This is the first time I've had a case on a phone. I hate cases but it's worth reducing the chance of a cracked screen.
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I want to hope team synergy has something major up their sleeves for us... trevE is literally a genius so I'm anxious for an announcement from that crew.
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I have a stock rooted S4 I got as a replacement from asurion, for a S3, it's on ME7, I have not activated it. Just thoughts from the community, I am a long time aosp user, anti touch jizz since fascinate days. Should I keep the s4 and bear with it on rooted stock or send it back and get another S3?
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Put nova launcher lol.
It's much better device however I will patiently wait for few months then hopefully bootloader will be unlocked.
you can try to exchange it (or sell it and buy) for a mdk s4
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I wish I had got a replacement for my s3 with a s4, lucky you
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you can try to exchange it (or sell it and buy) for a mdk s4
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Any specific service you recommend?
zeyaan said:
I wish I had got a replacement for my s3 with a s4, lucky you
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I know I'm somewhat lucky, but unlucky at the same time lol
patt2k said:
Put nova launcher lol.
It's much better device however I will patiently wait for few months then hopefully bootloader will be unlocked.
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Haha its the very first thing I did @ nova launcher.
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masri1987 said:
I have a stock rooted S4 I got as a replacement from asurion, for a S3, it's on ME7, I have not activated it. Just thoughts from the community, I am a long time aosp user, anti touch jizz since fascinate days. Should I keep the s4 and bear with it on rooted stock or send it back and get another S3?
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You have to ask??
SCORE!
Root it and move on. A device that is almost a year newer, better screen, better battery, two more cores and a better GPU.....
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You have to ask??
SCORE!
Root it and move on. A device that is almost a year newer, better screen, better battery, two more cores and a better GPU.....
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Butttttt TOUCHWIZ! lol
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I would sell you my mdk but the htc one max isn't out yet :banghead: can't wait to get rid of this thing
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Bu he had the S3 already...
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Evocm7 said:
I would sell you my mdk but the htc one max isn't out yet :banghead: can't wait to get rid of this thing
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I didn't know anyone was actually buying that lol.
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I didn't know anyone was actually buying that lol.
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Why wouldn't they? People buy the one. It's just an htc one with a note 3ish size screen and larger battery + sd card slot finally. I just want reliable and fast 4g again, something I can't have with my s4.
Edit: just read some reviews on the one max. Disappointing. Now I really don't know what I'm going to do for a phone. Maybe back to my rez.
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Why wouldn't they? People buy the one. It's just an htc one with a note 3ish size screen and larger battery + sd card slot finally. I just want reliable and fast 4g again, something I can't have with my s4.
Edit: just read some reviews on the one max. Disappointing. Now I really don't know what I'm going to do for a phone. Maybe back to my rez.
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What condition is your S4 in?
Does anyone honestly believe a unlock method is being worked on?
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What condition is your S4 in?
Does anyone honestly believe a unlock method is being worked on?
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mint condition. Never dropped. No scratches. Kind of undecided what to do with it now. The only thing keeping me on the s4 is 5in screen and battery life. Was definitely getting rid of it before I read the one max review, now I'm not sure what to do
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mint condition. Never dropped. No scratches. Kind of undecided what to do with it now. The only thing keeping me on the s4 is 5in screen and battery life
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Yeah, first you gotta figure out if you selling or keeping.
I honestly don't see any reason for any other phone at the moment. If I can get it unlocked I'm straight for a year or more.
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Yeah, first you gotta figure out if you selling or keeping.
I honestly don't see any reason for any other phone at the moment. If I can get it unlocked I'm straight for a year or more.
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Yeah I know. Your best bet may be a dev edition. I really don't think an unlocked bootloader is coming unless samsung leaves a door open for someone to get into in a future update.
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Yeah I know. Your best bet may be a dev edition. I really don't think an unlocked bootloader is coming unless samsung leaves a door open for someone to get into in a future update.
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This whole ordeal reminds me of the RIL bs with the fascinate.
This blows extremely. Let me know if you decide to sell yours. Or if you wake up and decide touchwiz is your friend I'll trade with ya
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Will do
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Why wouldn't they? People buy the one. It's just an htc one with a note 3ish size screen and larger battery + sd card slot finally. I just want reliable and fast 4g again, something I can't have with my s4.
Edit: just read some reviews on the one max. Disappointing. Now I really don't know what I'm going to do for a phone. Maybe back to my rez.
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Yeah I don't know that One design just doesn't scale well. I mean look at a One compared to a Moto X, it's a joke. They have the same screen size but the Moto X is almost the same size as an iPhone while the One is bigger than our phone. So the BoomSound speakers plus the 5.9" screen means it massive. It only has a Snapdragon 600 after all these devices are coming out with the 800. It loses OIS, which ruins the whole point of their "UltraPixels" with the larger light aperture, in favor of a fingerprint reader which so far hasn't been reviewed very well. Apple integrated the reader into the experience of the iPhone by putting it right on the home button, the One Max makes the same mistake as the Motorola Atrix. Furthermore, it doesn't even retain the best part of the One design, the unibody aluminum shell. It features a plastic ring around the phone like our S4 as well as an apparently spotty removable back that doesn't even feature a removable battery. Very disappointed in the One Max.
Has anyone recently gotten a S4 refurb? I ask because I have a slight screen issue (screen fades brighter at the bottom) and I would like to get one that doesn't have this problem. It's starting to bother me. Anyway, I will not use a ME7 or above device, I will not tolerate being stuck to safe strap. So is there a chance I would get a MDK device? Or are all of them being shipped with new software? If so, does anyone have any suggestions for a fix that doesn't involve vzw or a few hundred dollars?
Thanks.
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Mine came with me7
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One I got came with me7 so I just sent it back and sold mine and bought mdk version now I'm happy.
Thanks to both of you. That's what I feared.
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One I got came with me7 so I just sent it back and sold mine and bought mdk version now I'm happy.
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So did you sell the refurb? Or the old device? How much did you lose on the deal? (if you don't mind me asking.)
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Me7 as well got a mi7 previoisly
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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/13...kitkat-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005/
Looks like we should be getting some Kit Kat action even sooner then expected!
Edit: After looking over at the main Note 3 page it looks like I'm way late to the party...
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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/13...kitkat-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005/
Looks like we should be getting some Kit Kat action even sooner then expected!
Edit: After looking over at the main Note 3 page it looks like I'm way late to the party...
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Doesn't mean too much. By the time Verizon pushes it out it'll be April or May.
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Doesn't mean too much. By the time Verizon pushes it out it'll be April or May.
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maybe not...they have been pretty good lately about updates..i think the verizon s4 got 4.3 before any other carrier...and a few motorola phones have gotten quick updates....hopefully we will see it soon
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maybe not...they have been pretty good lately about updates..i think the verizon s4 got 4.3 before any other carrier...and a few motorola phones have gotten quick updates....hopefully we will see it soon
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Time will tell huh
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I checked the Note 3 forum and it appears right now there is no way to root without tripping KNOX. It is also not possible to go back to 4.3 due to the bootloader. So we might not be missing out on much yet, as I'd rather have root and warranty than 4.4.
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Actually..... Sammy stated it was gonna have KK released on all carriers (including ALL US carriers) by end of January. And yes, that includes VZW. Its been in testing for a little bit now.
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going to keep things streamlined folks...please use this thread here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607029