Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
Thoughts?
dmt010 said:
Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
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Esquew me? Me no thinks it's unlockable
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I think you meant that you rooted it and got custom recovery installed on the pre-updated MDK. No one has unlocked the bootloader on any S4 came with it locked.
There never was an unlocked bootloader save for the developer edition only available direct from Samsung.
Development for the i545 is far from dying if you look through the forum. The fact that the bounty for root and recovery on ME7 is several thousand dollars should be telling.
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I agree. This is one of the most popular devices out at the moment. I dont see development dying out anytime soon.
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Its fine at the moment and in the near future but could see it lose some people once Note 3 and other devices come out esp if bootloader exploit isn't found on new update
There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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Have you looked in the development sections to see that there are plenty of developers committed to the furthering of development?
Have Faith
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There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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bajasur said:
You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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That's a bummer.. sorry man. Just have to keep praying someone will unlock this thing...
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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This. But there's evidence all around (check forums) that devs tend to stop developing for devices with to small of a user base.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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GE phones are fine and dandy but none exist for VZW, just like VZW has no nexus phones, because they want complete control over the devices and the software.
I currently have an S3 and when my contracts runs out I will either move to another carrier and buy GE phones or buy Dev phones off contract for verizon, but I'm more inclined to go elsewhere and go with GE phones.
When it's announced(hopefully) I'll be ordering my developer edition note 3. As far as the gs4 goes, I only know of 1 developer who stopped developing for the gs4. No one else who has started has quit.
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dmt010 said:
Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
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I've had similar concerns. I took it as a reason to learn some of this stuff on my own. I've been building cm 10.2 from source to start. That said, I'm less concerned about development now but I will continue to learn how to do as much as I can on my own. I just hope I never physically damage the phone beyond usability. This is the first time I've had a case on a phone. I hate cases but it's worth reducing the chance of a cracked screen.
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I want to hope team synergy has something major up their sleeves for us... trevE is literally a genius so I'm anxious for an announcement from that crew.
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I hate polls you can't see them on Tapatalk. But I think it looks like all we will ever have is root.
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Do you guys know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? Honestly, I think it will happen, ive learned a lot just so I can try to help solve this too. The more negative people are about it though the less likely people will be to discuss it or be motivated to do it.
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Realistically the only people "qualified" to answer this question would be a developer working on this. Anything a normal user says is pure speculation.
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I don't mind speculation.
If enough of us wish for it to happen than maybe it will (remember Peter Pan?)
There's a way around everything.
Self fulfilling prophecy theory is lame. Not only is it fake but a lazy way to think. The only ones who can figure it out are the ones trying to hack it. The rest of the people can think whatever they want. They have no impact on it happening or not.
With that said I do not believe this will be unlocked. The beauty of design in this thing limits the amount of roads one can take to attack it. Its never been cracked and its been tried for well over a year spanning multiple devices. We only had a *unlock* because of leaked info. That's it. If that didn't happen we would all have nothing.
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I am optimistic but honestly I will likely be on the next device GN3 or something else long before it happens. Yet I still offered up my money to help motivate those who can get it done.
Odds Key Lime Pie for S4 happens?
As a previous Verizon user, I don't see this being unlocked.. Sorry
Not holding my breath. Anyone like to purchase a brand new GS4? I will never buy another phone before doing some homework. Good luck to those trying.
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The real question isn't will it be unlocked (it won't be). It's will a leaked unlocked bootloader become available.
This is basically bad new for anyone wanting a phone with SDcard support and an unlocked boot loader in the future on VZW or AT&T. Samsung is the only SD option now... And it looks like they've got this boot loader thing locked down (no pun intended), at least when it comes up Qualcomm. If the Note 3 uses an s800, I don't see why the boot loader situation would be any different from the S4 and S4 active...
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Vote with your goddamned wallets!
I hate to also be the voice of reason but the sad reality is that this booting processes is sealed up tight and it's all Verizon's doing. I'm here for my room mate who hates his stock S4 with a passion but absolutely loves my CM10.x+OC S4...I just switched from Sprint to T-Mobile, for networks. I considered Verizon and ATT but having had friends with Verizon phones (Motos especially) over the past few years I knew that it was nearly pointless, save for a leaked engineering/unlocked signed bootloader or 1 chance at an exploit on release-day firmware before it was sealed up tight and likely for good.
It's not that I have no hope, there's always a chance and there is always a way...but with each successive breach of such a system the next iteration becomes exponentially more difficult to overcome.
I stuck with Sprint's haggard network for years because I knew they didn't give phone hackers a hard time. I switched to T-Mobile because I did my research and found the same. HTC capitulated on their new locked and encryption signed bootloaders after the EVO3D debacle a few years back.
As for my new Samsung Galaxy S4? I had my phone for 20 minutes before I flashed a custom recovery and had a CM10.1 nightly running with a custom 2.2ghz OC kernel that comes with tons of governors, tons of IO schedulers...on light use with screen turned down low, OC'd to 135mhz/2.1ghz I can get almost 2 days out of my phone and it is smooth as effing silk like no phone I've ever seen...and I've had no wakelock problems.
This phone screams.
Am I bragging? Sure...but not to hurt your feelings. I'm sick of companies acting like THEY own the computer that YOU bought for YOUR pocket. I'm bragging to enrage you.
Vote with your goddamned wallets. I did when HTC wouldn't unload their bootlockers (lol), and Samsung will forever have my business unless they start that crap too (or their phones start to suck)....same goes for T-Mobile. (Protip: stick to the underdogs. You get far better customer service and far more leeway...when you are #1 and #2 you appear to not need to try anymore and treating your customers like idiot children and criminals is somehow acceptable).
This isn't Samsung's doing...ask any Sprint, T-Mobile or international model owners.
Vote with your goddamned wallets.
I wish the best to you my brethren. Good luck and happy hacking.
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Lol.
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I wouldn't give out hope. The Droid dna took ages but they finally got it. Sometimes it just takes time. Be patient.
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True, but sometimes the trip the way around is so long, almost nobody will care in the end.
Today I woke up and learned that my phone wouldn't charge! I took it into the local Verizon store and I was lucky enough to get a new phone on the spot for free! best news? I had stupidly upgraded to 4.3 and lost root on my old phone. The new phone was still on 4.2! It's like I got a free downgrade! Now I can and will root and upgrade. How cool is that?
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I don't mean to be a hater.... But I'm totally hating on you right now. Congrats man!
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Wait, what's the baseband??
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Bah! Much hate! So envy. Such downgrade. Wow.
I'd do a lot to get back root and TWRP like I had when I first got my S4. Lucky!
Haha!! My s4 died wouldn't even recognize charger Saturday just got my replacement today and bam it to is on me7 haha love it!!!!
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Bah! Much hate! So envy. Such downgrade. Wow.
I'd do a lot to get back root and TWRP like I had when I first got my S4. Lucky!
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I'm not sure why you ever thought taking an OTA was a good idea.
The whole point of this phone was to take control of it before the bootloader was inevitably relocked. Remember the delay of the Loki release for AT&T so that Verizon wouldn't close it? That should have made future developments obvious to everyone.
MDK forever.
My phone was me7, then my daughter happened to get a hold of it..... Well my replacement came with mj7 as most people in this thread. Why does everyone think we're dumb enough to take an update? Only tards update without checking. Sorry, I'm not pointing this at anyone, just throwing a mini tantrum.
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I got my phone through a trade and it came with mj7
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My phone was me7, then my daughter happened to get a hold of it..... Well my replacement came with mj7 as most people in this thread. Why does everyone think we're dumb enough to take an update? Only tards update without checking. Sorry, I'm not pointing this at anyone, just throwing a mini tantrum.
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No, you're absolutely right. I'm kicking myself, quite hard. I got suckered in by native App-to-SD support when I could have just flashed a decent ROM. I had the tools, but I was a [email protected]$$.
Never forget!
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No, you're absolutely right. I'm kicking myself, quite hard. I got suckered in by native App-to-SD support when I could have just flashed a decent ROM. I had the tools, but I was a [email protected]$$.
Never forget!
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Lol, new features in some OTAs can be rather tempting. I learned to patiently wait for rooted OTAs to be made available since I got the original evo in 2010. I've been tempted a few times though. OTAs on Sprint were never as risky as these on Verizon. These folks are serious about locking down our phones!
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Have any of you guys gotten a "tap here to update your security policies" today?
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Not today but I got it before with mj7
I didn't root or do anything with it
Just popped up during normal use
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Wait, what's the baseband??
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It's on ME7. Cool huh? Got the original phone in August and I love it to death.
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I could be wrong but isn't the only one you can get a custom recovery on is MDK?
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I could be wrong but isn't the only one you can get a custom recovery on is MDK?
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No you can on me7 and ml1 as well (not sure on the newest mj7). Mdk is just the only one with a boot loader work around
prshosting.org
I don't care about getting around the bootloader because I'm staying stock as I don't feel the need to get anything else at the moment. I would overclock and lower the voltage very carefully. I want more battery life as my main goal and speed as my secondary goal.
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So all of you note users.. what phones have you switched to? Or what phones are you keeping your eye on?
I've got my upgrade coming up next month. The cool new phones that caught my eye are the G Flex and the HTC One (bit older though). It doesn't seem like ATT has many new options that aren't just new versions of the galaxy devices. The Gflex in particular I think looks awesome from first glance.. but i think a 6" screen is just a bit too ridiculous. I was thinking of dropping down in size if anything from my Note.
Wait for the S5. On feb 24th they are going to announce its release date. It will be the first phone with 64bit processing. It's a smidge smaller than the note.
I moved on to the note 3. I dint recommend it. The bootloader is locked and we have to use safestrap.
I'm waiting on the S5.
Only going to get it if there's an all-metal version.
If not I'll stick to the Note 1.
The Note 3 has a locked bootloader could imply that the S5 might have it as well.
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Im waiting for the lg g pro 2 at the end of the month
I am going to get an iDevice. Can't stand any phone with locked bootloader and without per app permission control. May stay with Note 1 it's running Kitkat so well with both ATT and T-Mobile LTE.
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Could you guys elaborate on this locked bootloader issue..?
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Could you guys elaborate on this locked bootloader issue..?
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Since the note 3 from att has locked bootloaders we cant install kernels, or custom recoveries. There's software called Safe Strap or "SS" that allows us to partition the device memory and install slots. We can install custom roms in these slots and run them. But that's it! No cpu control, no governors, no over/under volting, no cool stuff like that which gives our device freedom to perform the way we want it too. If you want a note 3, buy an unlocked N9000. Not the N9005, or N900A.
I'm ready about to get an xperia z1s from tmobile, I have the want/need to get away from the samsung scene, it has a locked boot loader as well but I hope root will come out for that phone soon, from reviews I see for that phone it is a already great phone and one person on xda said it will be like icing on the cake to get root
I bought a note 2 at a decent price and it was nearly brand new. Got cm11 on it and it's great
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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GagesiPad said:
That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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Happy I could help. I always use that site when comparing phones.
And I'll say the camera on the S4 is really awesome. The note 2 is still a beast of a phone though. Lot of development for it also. Good luck whichever way you go!
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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Can you still flash ROMs with a locked bootloader? I cant stay on stock touchwiz... its bloated and horrific.
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GagesiPad said:
Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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if you can't get a dev edition or a retail edition on mdk don't bother. on anything after mdk there is no custom recovery, only safestrap. and even on mdk there is no unlocked bootloader, just a loki exploit that allows us to flash twrp.
the phone is a great phone, but if you are looking to mod it, you have very few choices with the s4 unfortunately.
I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
(And possibly get the M8)
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I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
(And possibly get the M8)
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Just my opinion but... Your probably safe to move on lol there's some extremely talented people working on it , and I don't want to knock their progress, but its some serious security they're trying to break.
The reality is though that we just never know. Could find an exploit tomorrow.... Could never find it.
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Just my opinion but... Your probably safe to move on lol there's some extremely talented people working on it , and I don't want to knock their progress, but its some serious security they're trying to break.
The reality is though that we just never know. Could find an exploit tomorrow.... Could never find it.
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I'm not trying to say they're not working, I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just stating... that there hasn't been an unlock since MDK.
I know that we never know, it's just kinda disappointing...
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I'm not trying to say they're not working, I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just stating... that there hasn't been an unlock since MDK.
I know that we never know, it's just kinda disappointing...
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Hey I know... I was just saying is all. Doesn't look good and Verizon is very dissapointing.
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Hey I know... I was just saying is all. Doesn't look good and Verizon is very dissapointing.
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So your opinion, M8 or Stick W/ S4.
I'm a CM addict.
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So your opinion, M8 or Stick W/ S4.
I'm a CM addict.
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Well I'd either get an MDK S4 off Swappa or get the M8 if your CM addict lol
I had my locked down S4 for a few months, then I sold it on Swappa and got an MDK S4 so I could do just that.
I'm not a real TW fan myself.
I suppose it all depends on what phone you really want.
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Just be sure the M8 is able to have custom recoveries too.... I'm not an HTC man so I don't follow it much. You don't want another locked down phone if your goal is to have CM
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Well I'd either get an MDK S4 off Swappa or get the M8 if your CM addict lol
I had my locked down S4 for a few months, then I sold it on Swappa and got an MDK S4 so I could do just that.
I'm not a real TW fan myself.
I suppose it all depends on what phone you really want.
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Just be sure the M8 is able to have custom recoveries too.... I'm not an HTC man so I don't follow it much. You don't want another locked down phone if your goal is to have CM
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At this point i've just refused to use the damn thing... I'm using my razr m w/ 4.1.2. on it because it runs better...
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At this point i've just refused to use the damn thing... I'm using my razr m w/ 4.1.2. on it because it runs better...
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Good comparison between the S4 and M8
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-vs-HTC-One-M7-vs-Galaxy-S4-specs-comparison_id54260
Between that and knowing what's possible with the M8 ( on Verizon ) and an MDK S4 you can probably make a good decision.
I know nothing about HTC phones really... But are they unlocked ( bootloaders ) or is it the same deal as the S4?
Verizon is the one pushing the locked down security. Probably worth finding out 1st.
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Good comparison between the S4 and M8
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-vs-HTC-One-M7-vs-Galaxy-S4-specs-comparison_id54260
Between that and knowing what's possible with the M8 ( on Verizon ) and an MDK S4 you can probably make a good decision.
I know nothing about HTC phones really... But are they unlocked ( bootloaders ) or is it the same deal as the S4?
Verizon is the one pushing the locked down security. Probably worth finding out 1st.
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All that I know forsure, is that most HTC phones get unlocked and have great lives with CM.
HTC one, Droid DNA, all the other HTC's
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I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
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I'd sell the S4 before the S5 comes out. There might be less interest in it after.
I sold my Mk2 S4 and bought an MDK one for ~$35 difference. The only thing that's missing with non-TW roms is the gesture stuff, but that's a small thing when you get GPE/CM/AOSP/whatever you want.
The M8 will probably be unlocked, we've had good success with HTC devices on Verizon. Although the 801 is a new beast to deal with. If you can deal with the razr I'd give it a couple weeks to see how the progress is on the m8
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joshm.1219 said:
The M8 will probably be unlocked, we've had good success with HTC devices on Verizon. Although the 801 is a new beast to deal with. If you can deal with the razr I'd give it a couple weeks to see how the progress is on the m8
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Yeah, probably going to do that.
Josh... You feel funny holding that Max up to your ear for a call?? LoL
I want that phone but I don't know if I can be trusted with something like that
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Mistertac said:
Josh... You feel funny holding that Max up to your ear for a call?? LoL
I want that phone but I don't know if I can be trusted with something like that
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So I went in to the VZ store yesterday and the rep was like, wait a few weeks.
ericerk said:
So I went in to the VZ store yesterday and the rep was like, wait a few weeks.
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Meaning... They had noone at all??
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Mistertac said:
Meaning... They had noone at all??
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Meaning, See if it gets unlockable... I'm not about to spend 300 bucks and wait 8 months for it to get unlocked. I hate sense, less than twiz, but still. I wouldn't want it on device for more than a few hours.
ericerk said:
Meaning, See if it gets unlockable... I'm not about to spend 300 bucks and wait 8 months for it to get unlocked. I hate sense, less than twiz, but still. I wouldn't want it on device for more than a few hours.
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Ohhhh gotcha Yea wasn't sure that's what you meant. Some of the reps aren't to bad and you can talk to like normal... Others are just robots. Well I did a little reading on it and it certainly seems more promising that the M8 will be unlocked. This S4 will probably be my last Sammy phone with Verizon anyways. Maybe HTC is the way to go. Just wish it has removable battery.
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Ohhhh gotcha Yea wasn't sure that's what you meant. Some of the reps aren't to bad and you can talk to like normal... Others are just robots. Well I did a little reading on it and it certainly seems more promising that the M8 will be unlocked. This S4 will probably be my last Sammy phone with Verizon anyways. Maybe HTC is the way to go. Just wish it has removable battery.
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My thoughts exactly. It's just an annoying thing. Vz is the only one to be so resistive.