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I have the following 2 options ... what do i do?
Calculations ...
Option 1 (buying unlocked phone)
Cost of unlocked phone - $700
Cost of plan - $50 per month in prepaid. Assuming 2 year stay ($50 * 24 = $1200)
Cost of some dumb phone for prepaid - $10
SO total cost is 700+1200+10=$1910.
Option 2 (buy from ATT)
Cost (expected) of phone - $300
Cost of plan - $40 for voice, $10 for messaging, and $25 for 2 GB per month data plan.
SO totally $75 + taxes = $80. For 2 years contract - $80 * 24 = 1920
SO total cost is 300+1920=$2220.
Thus, Option 1 is cheaper. Also in option 1 everything (including data) is unlimited .
Why is prepaid so much cheaper than postpaid!! Are there some disadvantages in prepaid that I dont know??
I heard that in prepaid, the 3G data speed will be slower that postpaid!! Is it TRUE !! ??
Also, I am buying the unlocked phone in INDIA, which uses the normal sized sim card. So, if ATT gives micro sim card, will it work in mine?
Here you go mate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166641
looks like the original thread went to then 2nd page ..
Anyway, can someone please reply to the query above?
gowtham.n.mail said:
Cost of plan - $50 per month in prepaid. Assuming 2 year stay ($50 * 24 = $1200)
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Not true. AT&T only offers unlimited data to feature phones, not smartphones like the SGS2. Of course, you can always deceive AT&T and see if they notice. Your call.
yes, I think i can deceive ATT. Thats what many people say.
So, I will go for option 1 since it is cheaper. and buy an unlocked phone then buy a cheap prepaid phone from ATT, and then use that simcard in the unlocked galaxy s2.
Also, in the unlocked phone there is space for the normal size sim card. What if the prepaid phone from ATT has micro sim? How to make it work in the galaxy s2?
Is the internet speed slow for prepaid connections than postpaid?
The AT&T sim card fits the SGS2. The coverage is not quite the same for pre-paid plans. You gotta look it up and see if it affects you. It shouldn't in most metro areas. You get 4G (the AT&T non-LTE 4G) speeds.
I went into the AT&T store at told them I wanted a pre-paid plan. I didn't have to buy a pre-paid phone. They didn't even ask me what I kind of phone I had.
thanks,
I will stay at minneapolis ... and there is prepaid coverage there ..
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
gowtham.n.mail said:
thanks,
I will stay at minneapolis ... and there is prepaid coverage there ..
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
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someone please correct me if im wrong..but i was told by a at&t employee that..
a prepaid phone ..which gives unlimited everything does not apply to smartphones..
which is why i believe its cheaper. again, someone may correct me..not sure if the at&t employee was just feeding me BS.
gowtham.n.mail said:
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
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The speeds are the same FOR ME. Actually, faster with the pseudo AT&T 4G. However, buyer beware. Don't blame me if your mileage varies.
Why cheaper? Competition. Lots of carriers are doing it and AT&T wants a piece of the pre-paid pie. Plus, AT&T doesn't have to recoup the cost of their subsidized phones. But again, AT&T is not offering unlimited everything to the SGS2.
Personally, I see the SGS2 as a mobile computer/internet device and emergency phone. So with a pre-paid plan I don't have to subsidize everyone else if I don't talk all day on the phone and stream Netflix movies.
defnow said:
a prepaid phone ..which gives unlimited everything does not apply to smartphones.
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True. But people do it because they can get away with it. Sticking it to da man!
Hi. Is it illegal? I am not a US citizen. I caome fro india. So, dont want to get into any leagal troubles.
Hi,
What if i buy a phone from ATT in contract, then not pay the compulsary $15 per month, and insted throw away that sim, and use some another sim? Can ATT take any action against me?
do it for free
there is an app from chainfire that can unlock galaxy s2... its in the marketplace
So, if i unlock the ATT phone, then can i stop paying ATT completely? including the monthly $15 for data? So, its like I got the phone very cheaply and then I dont pay anything to ATT later? Is it even possible?!!
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
If you are just now switching to AT&T, why not buy it with a new contract? I don't think you can switch in and not get a contract at all.... But I am not very knowledgable about that kind of stuff.
jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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I think they'll be happy to take your money with or without a contract. I think they will require you to get phone and data plan though.
jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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Yes you can but you will still be required to have a data plan.
jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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No. The Note is not a no-contract phone on ATT.
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You could on tmobil. I wonder if the t989 radio would give you hspa+. It works for the skyrocket.
Then you could use the note, in the states, contract free on a decent network (42mbps not bad)
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You can probably buy it on eBay from someone selling theirs at full price and then stick it on an AT&T GoPhone plan for $50/month unlimited everything.
But if your a new customer and want to switch to AT&T it'd probably be cheaper to sign a 2-year contract and get the phone for $300.
None of these options sound all that wonderful. id probably buy a different device on a network within my budget.
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prayii said:
You can probably buy it on eBay from someone selling theirs at full price and then stick it on an AT&T GoPhone plan for $50/month unlimited everything.
But if your a new customer and want to switch to AT&T it'd probably be cheaper to sign a 2-year contract and get the phone for $300.
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I prefer to stay off contract since its easier in case I want to switch carriers. I'm trying to find the best coverage/price then I'll commit to a certain carrier. Unless gophone has LTE I guess I'll sign the contract
thanks for the replies guys
The first time I subscribe with AT&T, I only had a year contract since I didn't require a phone from them. I had an international phone. They provided me with a SIM card and that's about it. But if you don't want a data plan, then don't show them the phone, so they can't get the IMEI
jessejames111981 said:
I prefer to stay off contract since its easier in case I want to switch carriers. I'm trying to find the best coverage/price then I'll commit to a certain carrier. Unless gophone has LTE I guess I'll sign the contract
thanks for the replies guys
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Do a contract...
Reasoning: Phone outright is $650
Contract is $300
ETF is $325, Prorates $10/Month
Even if you have to cancel at some point, it is still cheaper than full price...
NR017 said:
The first time I subscribe with AT&T, I only had a year contract since I didn't require a phone from them. I had an international phone. They provided me with a SIM card and that's about it. But if you don't want a data plan, then don't show them the phone, so they can't get the IMEI
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I want data. I don't mind paying for the necessary options
jessejames111981 said:
I want data. I don't mind paying for the necessary options
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Then get the full package. Chances are if they check your phone and put the IMEI # on their system, they will put a data plan on your phone. This happened to me as well.
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Can somebody tell me if the gophone plan for 50$ works and does it have internet?
Thanks.
Mom's AT&T go-phone ($25 plan) runs on call minutes. Not sure about $50 plan or T-Mobile, but I think internet is a no-go on go-phone.
Of course, you could go Google go-phone and find out... I just wanted to say no-go go-phone...
Since GoPhone is an AT&T service:
1) No need to unlock. However:
2) AT&T will detect that it is a smartphone based on IMEI and will block the $50 unlimited plan.
Entropy512 said:
Since GoPhone is an AT&T service:
1) No need to unlock. However:
2) AT&T will detect that it is a smartphone based on IMEI and will block the $50 unlimited plan.
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Tmobile does the same... I have [email protected] phone with tmobile unlimited plan with tzone but it only gets edge.. And I want to move to 3g or 4g data. I am looking into this http://www.straighttalk.com/
It appears to be a great and cheap unlimited plan, do not know if it will work with 3g or 4g network..
secret GoPhone user? Entropy?!?
I didn't start that rumor...
Najuto9tail said:
Tmobile does the same... I have [email protected] phone with tmobile unlimited plan with tzone but it only gets edge.. And I want to move to 3g or 4g data. I am looking into this http://www.straighttalk.com/
It appears to be a great and cheap unlimited plan, do not know if it will work with 3g or 4g network..
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It's possible but difficult. The carrier used by ST varies from phone to phone - some are T-Mo, some are AT&T, some are CDMA!
Also, many have SIMs that are device-locked (kind of the opposite of a SIMlocked device).
As I understand it, there are two $200 Nokia models that you can purchase which have non-locked AT&T-compatible SIMs. These will work in unlocked (and maybe locked?) AT&T phones. HOWEVER - you must NEVER activate another SIM in the original Nokia - if you do, your old SIM will get deactivated. So the $200 Nokia needs to sit collecting dust.
A few guys in the Infuse forums did this, I never did though.
Entropy512 said:
It's possible but difficult. The carrier used by ST varies from phone to phone - some are T-Mo, some are AT&T, some are CDMA!
Also, many have SIMs that are device-locked (kind of the opposite of a SIMlocked device).
As I understand it, there are two $200 Nokia models that you can purchase which have non-locked AT&T-compatible SIMs. These will work in unlocked (and maybe locked?) AT&T phones. HOWEVER - you must NEVER activate another SIM in the original Nokia - if you do, your old SIM will get deactivated. So the $200 Nokia needs to sit collecting dust.
A few guys in the Infuse forums did this, I never did though.
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I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
Najuto9tail said:
I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
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Wait... They sent you a SIM card to use with an arbitrary smartphone???
That surprises me...
gotta watch data usage tho on st. theyll kill the card first time warning then they kill the phone
Entropy512 said:
Wait... They sent you a SIM card to use with an arbitrary smartphone???
That surprises me...
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yeah they advertise this every where....
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Najuto9tail said:
I had a conversation via email with support from straight talk and they will send me a sim card for use with at&t network using their 45$ unlimited plan. They explained to me with details how it works and I am really happy for their support.
Compared to the offer they give here where I live 50+ 25 of data= 75$ and the same with them for 45. I am saving 30$ every month.
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If you don't mind, can you pls post the ST info in detail?
I've never heard of ST until lately but couldn't find any info about it.
All I know that people keep saying ST has $45/month UNLIMITED but have no clue how that unlimited got defined.
Thanks
Update:
Got it here, StraigthTalk plan but still wondering it is truly unlimited or any restriction behind.
Hi, I'm going to the USA for a month for a holiday. Will my phone get decent data speeds on any US networks?
FriedPie said:
Hi, I'm going to the USA for a month for a holiday. Will my phone get decent data speeds on any US networks?
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Get a straight talk sim card from Walmart when you reach USA. $45 unlimited everything no contract. So just take it for one month and enjoy. You will get good HSPA speeds since straight talk uses AT&T network.
kirdroid said:
Get a straight talk sim card from Walmart when you reach USA. $45 unlimited everything no contract. So just take it for one month and enjoy. You will get good HSPA speeds since straight talk uses AT&T network.
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What this guy said. Or do it with ATT but tell them you have a dumb phone, I think it's $55 and you will get HSPA+.
Cheers. Those posts told me everything I needed to know. Very much obliged.
FriedPie said:
Cheers. Those posts told me everything I needed to know. Very much obliged.
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And be careful of the mole people that live by the sewer entrances. They kidnap you and take you down under. You're never heard from again. Our government also acts like they don't know anything about any mole people. I think they're in league with each other.
Also, we don't have many bridges in the states because of our troll problem, but beware of the bridges we do have.
Hey guys,
I'm going to be travelling internationally this year and just purchased a VZ S4. I'll be buying pre paid SIMs in country (in this case Ireland). Can any one tell me of any gotchyas or what I'll expect?
Thanks
falcar said:
Hey guys,
I'm going to be travelling internationally this year and just purchased a VZ S4. I'll be buying pre paid SIMs in country (in this case Ireland). Can any one tell me of any gotchyas or what I'll expect?
Thanks
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do a search. this has been address multiple times under multiple threads. dont open a brand new thread on this.
but YES it can. It is GSM unlocked.
falcar said:
Hey guys,
I'm going to be travelling internationally this year and just purchased a VZ S4. I'll be buying pre paid SIMs in country (in this case Ireland). Can any one tell me of any gotchyas or what I'll expect?
Thanks
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Instead of buying a prepaid SIM, consider getting VZ global plan $25 for 100MB. I will be travelling to Europe in July, few countries, and this is by far the cheapest option.
You can get a pre-paid SIM for like $30 and have a better plan and better service, when I was in Australia the signal sucked so I got a pre-paid SIM with 1500 minutes, 400mb data, unlimited texts, and unlimited data for social networks. Better deal than the Verizon plan.
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darek65 said:
Instead of buying a prepaid SIM, consider getting VZ global plan $25 for 100MB. I will be travelling to Europe in July, few countries, and this is by far the cheapest option.
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Man...inflation must have taken hold overnight...
darek65 said:
Instead of buying a prepaid SIM, consider getting VZ global plan $25 for 100MB. I will be travelling to Europe in July, few countries, and this is by far the cheapest option.
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Uhhh... what? You can get much better pre-paid SIM's for $25. 100MB will allow you to update a few apps, upload a few pictures, and navigate for a day. That $25 also doesn't include voice and SMS fees.
geoff5093 said:
Uhhh... what? You can get much better pre-paid SIM's for $25. 100MB will allow you to update a few apps, upload a few pictures, and navigate for a day. That $25 also doesn't include voice and SMS fees.
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Tell me where in Italy or France I can get anything cheaper. In France there is couple day waiting period.
I don't know about France, but in Germany, for 25 Euro, I got a prepaid SIM with 300MB data and a 10 euro credit for international calls at 0.09 euro per minute. SMS are 0.09 each (a bit expensive), but local calls (in germany) were included in the price of the SIM. I think there was a different pricing structure you could choose at 1 euro per day for unlimited data, charged each day that you use data but my german language skills are quite shaky, so I may have misunderstood. T-Mobile DE was/is the carrier.
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darek65 said:
Tell me where in Italy or France I can get anything cheaper. In France there is couple day waiting period.
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