Note not on contract for a new line? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?

If you are just now switching to AT&T, why not buy it with a new contract? I don't think you can switch in and not get a contract at all.... But I am not very knowledgable about that kind of stuff.

jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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I think they'll be happy to take your money with or without a contract. I think they will require you to get phone and data plan though.

jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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Yes you can but you will still be required to have a data plan.

jessejames111981 said:
I'm possibly switching to ATT. If I buy a note at full non contract price, can I get it activated with a plan with no contract?
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No. The Note is not a no-contract phone on ATT.
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You could on tmobil. I wonder if the t989 radio would give you hspa+. It works for the skyrocket.
Then you could use the note, in the states, contract free on a decent network (42mbps not bad)
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You can probably buy it on eBay from someone selling theirs at full price and then stick it on an AT&T GoPhone plan for $50/month unlimited everything.
But if your a new customer and want to switch to AT&T it'd probably be cheaper to sign a 2-year contract and get the phone for $300.

None of these options sound all that wonderful. id probably buy a different device on a network within my budget.
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prayii said:
You can probably buy it on eBay from someone selling theirs at full price and then stick it on an AT&T GoPhone plan for $50/month unlimited everything.
But if your a new customer and want to switch to AT&T it'd probably be cheaper to sign a 2-year contract and get the phone for $300.
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I prefer to stay off contract since its easier in case I want to switch carriers. I'm trying to find the best coverage/price then I'll commit to a certain carrier. Unless gophone has LTE I guess I'll sign the contract
thanks for the replies guys

The first time I subscribe with AT&T, I only had a year contract since I didn't require a phone from them. I had an international phone. They provided me with a SIM card and that's about it. But if you don't want a data plan, then don't show them the phone, so they can't get the IMEI

jessejames111981 said:
I prefer to stay off contract since its easier in case I want to switch carriers. I'm trying to find the best coverage/price then I'll commit to a certain carrier. Unless gophone has LTE I guess I'll sign the contract
thanks for the replies guys
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Do a contract...
Reasoning: Phone outright is $650
Contract is $300
ETF is $325, Prorates $10/Month
Even if you have to cancel at some point, it is still cheaper than full price...

NR017 said:
The first time I subscribe with AT&T, I only had a year contract since I didn't require a phone from them. I had an international phone. They provided me with a SIM card and that's about it. But if you don't want a data plan, then don't show them the phone, so they can't get the IMEI
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I want data. I don't mind paying for the necessary options

jessejames111981 said:
I want data. I don't mind paying for the necessary options
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Then get the full package. Chances are if they check your phone and put the IMEI # on their system, they will put a data plan on your phone. This happened to me as well.

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[Q] What's the difference between The Note with/without contract?!

Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
What?
Q1: if you mean you buy it, and you're not on AT&T at all, of coarse mobile data won't work...you won't have a service contract.... If you man just buying it out right, as am early upgrade while you're on AT&T, then yes it'll work. You'd most likely need to get an lte Sim card.
The price on contract, which means upgrading your phone and signing for a new contact, or a brand new customer is 300... Off contract, meaning no discount at all from AT&T is 700.
No you can't cancel your contract and return the phone for more than you paid for it. And in fact you will be charged an early termination fee for canceling the contact. So you'd lose money.
AT&T has been around the block more than a couple times.... You really think you could pull one over on them so easily?
Warranty is from Samsung, not AT&T and is included with the purchase of the device.
The reason people buy off contract is to not be locked into a provider. You can still have mobile data plan set up and pay on it each month, you're just not forced to pay them for 2 years and can cancel any time you wish.
If you don't have a mobile data plan through them your mobile data will not work.
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a.2mjed.a said:
Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
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If you've had the phone longer than 3 days cannot break the contact without paying the $250-350 fee it costs to do so.
If you've had it less than 3 days, you can break the contract without charge but you will still have to pay the balance of the phone (if you paid the reduced price of $300)
If you're not on contract, you can still use AT&T 4G service.
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Thanks guys for answering my questions
my phone is in contract with them, and one of my friends told me go break your contract and get like $100 from them cuz the phone without contract is about $700 and with contract is $800, so if I break the contract they will give me back $100!!
Is that right?
and for the warranty, the seller told me to buy a warranty but I told him I don't need it, and there were no warranty in the bx by Samsung! How can I get a warranty?
I guess thats all what i have
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If you've had the phone longer than 3 days cannot break the contact without paying the $250-350 fee it costs to do so.
If you've had it less than 3 days, you can break the contract without charge but you will still have to pay the balance of the phone (if you paid the reduced price of $300)
If you're not on contract, you can still use AT&T 4G service.
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Incorrect. It is 30 days to break the contract without the $325 termination fee. The 3 days you may be thinking about is to not get charged the activation/upgrade fee
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Att.com shows pricing as 299.99 on contract, 649.99 off contract.
I decided to by one off contract for 475 shipped on eBay. I'm not up for early renewal until July and couldn't wait. I didn't want to "waste" my upgrade on a near 6 month old phone by that time.
You will not make any money off ATT, so don't try.
Without contract means no service unless you have existing service.
Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
erick161 said:
Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
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Yes, and you can keep the unlimited plan if you have it.
yesterday I canceled my contract and my phone (everything)
they gave me the phone and the screen protector price immediately to my depit card and they told me I'll recieve the deposit cost in my mail withen 4-6 weeks ! :/
Now I'm thinking between buying the same phone ($660 with 2 years warranty from SquareTradeus) or waiting for new phone!!
What do you think?!
sbddude said:
Yes, and you can keep the unlimited plan if you have it.
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As usual, its always a nightmare dealing with their customer service. It took nearly 45 minutes of the ATT store manager being on the phone with them...and they still couldn't change my account to LTE unlimited. They ended up hanging up and stating they would work on it and call me back...which was true.
But i truly wish i could blow up ATT customer service.
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erick161, as much as I agree with you, you might want to redact that last statement. threats online are taken even more seriously than in person from my experience.
OP, I think what you friend was trying to tell you is that you buy the phone on contract, you cancel the service and pay the termination fee and the cost of the phone and ETF was less than buying the phone at full price. Which was true in the beginning, but now the phone is cheaper and not really going to save/make you money.
If you already have AT&T then I'd say get the phone on contract or not. for the first time in almost 10 years I'm locked into a contract again, not too worried about it because i haven't left AT&T yet and don't plan to. if you aren't an AT&T customer, there's a company that resells AT&T network service for $45 a month unlimited everything, just no 4G or LTE. You could buy the phone and jump on that service.
Lastly if you didn't buy the phone for the size, the HTC One is coming out in the next few months, you might want to check that out, though if I recall for AT&T they're getting rid of the quad core because it isn't compatible with LTE, but that's what i recall and 100% ingrained in truth.
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You say the price with contract is $800. It's not, it's $300. So if you break contract, you will pay more for a phone, not less, but you can still get data if you are already with AT&T. Just go in, and add the phone to your line, and have them upgrade the sim. They charge like $36 for that now.
a.2mjed.a said:
Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
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What model of Note is this? Sounds like one of the international ones to me. the AT&T one would not come with a HSPA+ only SIM I believe. If it is not an i717, then it probably has the Xenos(sp?) chipset, and not the Qualcomm one, and is NOT an LTE phone. Also, if it is an LTE phone, you may, or may not be in an area with LTE service.
erick161 said:
Att.com shows pricing as 299.99 on contract, 649.99 off contract.
I decided to by one off contract for 475 shipped on eBay. I'm not up for early renewal until July and couldn't wait. I didn't want to "waste" my upgrade on a near 6 month old phone by that time.
You will not make any money off ATT, so don't try.
Without contract means no service unless you have existing service.
Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
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Galaxy Nexus $399 from Google directly No Contract.

What you guys think? Did Google just ...... all the carrier's?
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samomamo said:
What you guys think? Did Google just ...... all the carrier's?
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Not really. People will still need data plans. At most, Google might be snatching the small percentage of people who don't mind paying more for an unlocked device rather than the majority who tend to buy subsidized devices on contract.
Well If you go to a carrier with a phone that is yours outright. They cannot make you sign up for a data plan.
If you brought an unlocked Iphone to Tmobile, they have no reason to charge you for a monthly data plan..
However if you decide to use it with out a plan the price would be costly..
but you can just use Wifi..
that is how I had my Iphone working a few years ago on the tmobile service..
I never had any issues.
You get a cheaper phone through them. how ever they make up the money in the data plan.
So Google did sorta screw the carriers..
Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.
EvoXOhio said:
Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.[
Or the customers could just be smart and get a monthly 4g without a contract...(T-mobile)
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EvoXOhio said:
Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
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Realy?! My data plan is $30/month 6gigs regardless of the phone I use. If I get a new phone from them ,on say a 3 yr contract, I don't have to get a new plan. How does what you say make any sense?
If i was to change carriers (why would you unless you are cconstantly moving?) every time I got a new phone and was always getting a new contract to reduce the purchase price of the phone, then yes, the price of the plan would probably be higher to subsidise the cost of the phone.
Iphony89 said:
Actually the customer gets screwed and the carriers benefit. If you buy a $200 phone, you pay $100 a month for a data plan. It's $100 a month because instead of paying full retail for the phone, you are paying a little bit of it each month via your plan. So roughly $10-$15 of your bill each month is covering the cost of the phone.
The problem with buying an unlocked phone from someone else, is that the carriers don't discount the price of the monthly plan for you. So you still pay $100 a month, but you paid $400 for the device instead of $200. So you've been screwed $200 basically.
Now from the carriers perspective, they love this. Instead of taking $10-15 a month to recoup what they lost on the phone, they charge you that money anyway and it's pure profit.
When the original iPhone was released it was unsubsidized and people laughed at the $600 price. But, for $20 a month you got unlimited data and texting. so yes you paid more upfront, but your bill was $20 a month less than a comparable subsidized phone. So over the course of 2 years it was a good deal.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any carriers that will discount the monthly plan when you bring your own phone.[
Or the customers could just be smart and get a monthly 4g without a contract...(T-mobile)
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You're missing the point. The monthly 4G plans are the same price as the contract plans, at least last time I checked. I looked at buying the international Galaxy Nexus when it first came out and putting it on T-Mobile and that is what I discovered.
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sprecker said:
Realy?! My data plan is $30/month 6gigs regardless of the phone I use. If I get a new phone from them ,on say a 3 yr contract, I don't have to get a new plan. How does what you say make any sense?
If i was to change carriers (why would you unless you are cconstantly moving?) every time I got a new phone and was always getting a new contract to reduce the purchase price of the phone, then yes, the price of the plan would probably be higher to subsidise the cost of the phone.
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You're misunderstanding what I said. You pay right now $30/month for your data plan (in my example I chose $100 to represent minutes, data, and texts as an example). If you were to buy an unlocked Galaxy Nexus right now and put it on your plan, you'd still pay $30 a month, but you'd be out $400 for the phone. However, if you are due for an upgrade, you can could get a phone for $200 (subsidized) and still pay $30 a month.
In both cases you are paying $30 a month, but in the former you are paying more for your phone. The only advantage to buying the unlocked phones is not being stuck in your contract if you hate the service.
But my point was that US carriers base their monthly rates on the fact that they have subsidized your phone. When you bring your own non-subsidized phone, they don't discount the phone accordingly. So you end up paying more and they ending up making more money.
Doesn't T-Mobile have lower monthly plans when you use your own phone or buy one at full price?
Most people would want a data plan on their smart phone. So its cheaper to get it on contract since they require smartphones to have a data plan regardless of where you bought it. Data plans are not cheaper if you brought your own, its the same. The only good thing about buying a phone off contract is you can jump to another carrier without ETF. IMO, the only.phones I would buy off contracts would be unlocked international ones.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
captivated said:
Doesn't T-Mobile have lower monthly plans when you use your own phone or buy one at full price?
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Not when I last checked.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
I didn't read up on it, I'm going by the first few sentences at the top. I have a few friends that use this plan.
Since this phone is not carrier specific, does that mean you can use it with AT&T using the $15 unlimited data plan?
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http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
I didn't read up on it, I'm going by the first few sentences at the top. I have a few friends that use this plan.
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That must be new, when I looked into it a few months back it was not an option. Or else I had an uninformed sales rep at the time.
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silvscorp said:
Since this phone is not carrier specific, does that mean you can use it with AT&T using the $15 unlimited data plan?
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I'm not aware of that plan, where do you see it?
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That must be new, when I looked into it a few months back it was not an option. Or else I had an uninformed sales rep at the time.
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I'm not aware of that plan, where do you see it?
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I am referring to the unlimited data plan for "non-smartphone" from AT&T. As long as you are using a phone that's not sold by AT&T then they won't recognize IMEI and treat it as "non-smartphone".
For the samsung galaxy, AT&T has its own branded one and there is also a "world" version which also supports AT&T 3g band but AT&T don't recognize it. I assume the this is the same with this phone sold directly by google?
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What you guys think? Did Google just ...... all the carrier's?
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GNexus doesn't do LTE does it?
jpg71 said:
GNexus doesn't do LTE does it?
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The GSM version does not.

Verizon Pre-Order is Up

I picked mine up. .. With a ship date by 11/27!?
I really hope it doesn't take that long.
http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=galaxynote2
November 27? Wow
It sucks indeed along with the $699 full retail price I paid. Whatever though Ive wanted since we never got the first one. Atleast its coming!
Yes the delay is really unacceptable as well as tbe retail price. I will try to order one today, seeimg as there is no rush.
I really think their stalling to let HTC's Droid branded phablet get a jump on sales it's set to release soon too last I heard.
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
The only way to avoid the tiered data plans is by purchasing the phone outright. So as long as you're not buying the phone from Verizon at their 2-year contract/upgrade price, you're keeping you're unlimited data.
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
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If it ends this spring I'll buy it on contract I can live (barely) with 2Gb data a month. If I remember correctly the ETF fee is waived if they change your contract terms, not sure if that's if they notify you or not, i.e. a surprise FU from big red is reason to waive the ETF.
I'll get on the phone soon, thanks.
Got mine preordered today. Supposed to ship by 11/27 also. Cost me 740 and change but worth to keep unlimited data. Funny thing is the rep on the phone didnt even know what the note 2 was. Lol. Funny we know this and they dont.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
Rahstylesdotcom said:
Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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thunderbread said:
I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Thanks for the info If they are going to kill unlimited the phone would still be cheaper with the ETF fee paid (by ~$125 assuming they add it to the advanced devices page). If taking a subsidized phone means I have to go onto that BS share everything (get less) for the same price plan that means I'm going to pay full retail.
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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Don't forget VZW navigator and useless bloat ware/garbage like that...
Perhaps the delay is to sell more RAZR HD and Maxxs more than the HTC DLX?
Rahstylesdotcom said:
Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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I noticed the first feature under multi-tasking is the "multi-window" feature. Since most US carriers dont have that feature from my understanding, maybe its to allow time to include the newest possible firmware? (long shot I know, but im bored and sick of waiting just like you guys and looking for any rays of light)
I am going to complain about the release date to directly to Verizon. I really doubt that they are releasing the phone late to improve anything. It is more likely that they are holding off the release to sell another device (as mentioned above).
Verizon seems to take customer complaints serious. This whole release has been a disaster.
Let me know what you send Ill spam em too

advice needed! lose unlimited data for the gear s?

They had one but I would have to change to everything plan. Is it really worth it to lose my unimited data and off contract on two devices just for this watch???
ronaldheld said:
They had one but I would have to change to everything plan. Is it really worth it to lose my unimited data and off contract on two devices just for this watch???
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I dont think so. just wait to buy it outright.
rmont23 said:
I dont think so. just wait to buy it outright.
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They will not let me do that as it changes my unlimited data plan. I would pay retail price to do so if I were allowed.
ronaldheld said:
They will not let me do that as it changes my unlimited data plan. I would pay retail price to do so if I were allowed.
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Hell NO don't give up your unlimited data for that damn watch what is wrong with you unless you are not a data hog and you don't mind paying overages for your devices
I am looking for opinions before making a rash decision. I appreciate the previous comments and am looking for others.
Edit: a store rep did some research. I can keep the unlimited for my phone if I buy the gear s as a separate device paying $25/month with no 2 year contract.
I am wondering if this would work. I have a at&t galaxy s5 and want to buy a nano sim adapter. http://microsim-shop.com/
i would buy the watch off contract. When I want to take just my watch I pop in the nano sim and go, when I want my phone, I put the nano sim in the adapter for the s5.
This way I won't lose my unlimited data, wonder if it will work?
ampm325 said:
I am wondering if this would work. I have a at&t galaxy s5 and want to buy a nano sim adapter. http://microsim-shop.com/
i would buy the watch off contract. When I want to take just my watch I pop in the nano sim and go, when I want my phone, I put the nano sim in the adapter for the s5.
This way I won't lose my unlimited data, wonder if it will work?
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Good question. Anyone know? I have a couple of weeks to decide.
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I am looking for opinions before making a rash decision. I appreciate the previous comments and am looking for others.
Edit: a store rep did some research. I can keep the unlimited for my phone if I buy the gear s as a separate device paying $25/month with no 2 year contract.
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So with 25$ a month no contract would you just pay 25$ what ever month you needed it? or ,,,
Uniquebarbee said:
So with 25$ a month no contract would you just pay 25$ what ever month you needed it? or ,,,
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Yes as far as I was told by the store sales rep. I do not want to be locked into a two year contract with smartphones/watches evolving so quickly. For all I know I will use the gear s for a while and find it is not worth having or paying $25/month. I still should be able to connect via Bluetooth at no Verizon cost.
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Yes as far as I was told by the store sales rep. I do not want to be locked into a two year contract with smartphones/watches evolving so quickly. For all I know I will use the gear s for a while and find it is not worth having or paying $25/month. I still should be able to connect via Bluetooth at no Verizon cost.
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I agree I just bought from AT&T outright I have Sprint I'm just going to bluetooth for free and put my google voice number on the watch I think I can do that we will see. If not I will see if a pre-paid sim straighttalk net1o something with At&T If I feel the need to talk w/o phone
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I agree I just bought from AT&T outright I have Sprint I'm just going to bluetooth for free and put my google voice number on the watch I think I can do that we will see. If not I will see if a pre-paid sim straighttalk net1o something with At&T If I feel the need to talk w/o phone
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I really want a standalone device at least to see if it is viable as such. I can always go the Bluetooth route but it might be harder the other way as Verizon plans change.
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I really want a standalone device at least to see if it is viable as such. I can always go the Bluetooth route but it might be harder the other way as Verizon plans change.
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I see what your saying
I am waiting to see a full review of the watch and the gear manager to appear in the Play store for my Note 4. I also cannot afford it plus the time in the store until later this month.
Gear Manager wont be in the play store its on Galaxy App store.
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I'm told you can add the gear s to a grandfathered family plan with the old data lines 9.99 + 20/300mb 30/3gb 50/5gb. Im waiting to buy one off contract and put one of my unlimited line's sim card in it. There's no reason it shouldn't work unless they have the gear imei's flagged (like a tablet in an unlim phone plan). I haven't found anyone saying they've done it yet though.
No sim card in Verizon's version. I will see what I can get out of the sales rep when I buy it for retail price.
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No sim card in Verizon's version. I will see what I can get out of the sales rep when I buy it for retail price.
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cool let us know
I gave up my unlimited plan. I save 100 bucks a. On the for 4 lines. ATT throttles you after 3gb of data use to 2G speed.
marinefighter said:
I gave up my unlimited plan. I save 100 bucks a. On the for 4 lines. ATT throttles you after 3gb of data use to 2G speed.
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:crying:
I decided that unlimited data was more important. If i cannot keep it, , no Gear S.

Unlimited Data Plans go up $20/month

As reported on CNET....Verizon will raise the cost of the Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan from $30 to $50 per month starting in mid-November.
However....Verizon also said they will no longer throttle users who retain their unlimited data plans....AND will no longer require payment in full when you get a new phone...you can now go on a monthly payment plan if you desire.
http://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-promises-an-open-road-for-unlimited-data-customers/?ref=yfp
I don't know about others...but I WILL keep my unlimited data, it's still cheaper than their 12GB tiered plan and I often go over that limit.
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Yeah, not too happy about that. I knew the gravy train wouldn't last forever. I've had other 'grandfathered' VZW features suddenly go up in smoke.
If I had Sprint and/or Tmobile coverage where I live, i'd be bailing to Project FI
Just do the Best Buy trick and you can get a discounted phone under contract for another 2 years at the grandfathered $29.99. They don't raise your rate until you're out of contract.
jamor414 said:
Just do the Best Buy trick and you can get a discounted phone under contract for another 2 years at the grandfathered $29.99. They don't raise your rate until you're out of contract.
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The Best Buy trick has been killed.
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The Best Buy trick has been killed.
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Thanks for the heads up. I was recently told about it and that it works. Guess he's wrong.
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Thanks for the heads up. I was recently told about it and that it works. Guess he's wrong.
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Verizon no longer does contracts nor does it subsidize new phones. Both were part of the Best Buy trick.
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Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Verizon no longer does contracts nor does it subsidize new phones. Both were part of the Best Buy trick.
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billku said:
Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Yea billku is right. If you go on Best Buy you can still buy subsidized phones with a contract with Verizon. So the tricks still works.
What is this trick?
jamor414 said:
Yea billku is right. If you go on Best Buy you can still buy subsidized phones with a contract with Verizon. So the tricks still works.
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Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what is this trick?
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Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what is this trick?
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Well people with unlimited like to buy subsidized phones from Best Buy because it allows them to pay the subsidized cost instead of full retail while still keeping their data. The only downside is that it puts you into a 2 year contract with Verizon. Recently, however, this downside has turned into a massive upside. Starting November 15th your unlimited bill increases $20 per month for off-contract customers. If you lock into a contract before November 15th, your bill won't increase $20/month for another 24 months. The trick is to buy the phone online from best buy, throw away the sim card they give you, insert your current sim card, and you still have unlimited with a 2 year contract. But if you use the best buy sim card you lose unlimited forever.
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Well people with unlimited like to buy subsidized phones from Best Buy because it allows them to pay the subsidized cost instead of full retail while still keeping their data. The only downside is that it puts you into a 2 year contract with Verizon. Recently, however, this downside has turned into a massive upside. Starting November 15th your unlimited bill increases $20 per month for off-contract customers. If you lock into a contract before November 15th, your bill won't increase $20/month for another 24 months. The trick is to buy the phone online from best buy, throw away the sim card they give you, insert your current sim card, and you still have unlimited with a 2 year contract. But if you use the best buy sim card you lose unlimited forever.
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Nice summary. I'm still debating whether or not to do this. Is there any risk that you might lost unlimited data?
Is this increase confirmed though? They stated that current unlimited users will be notified after Oct 15th, and I have yet to be notified. I went into a Verizon corp store last week and even the employee did not hear about this. Not that you can believe what they say 99% of the time though, but regardless.
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Nice summary. I'm still debating whether or not to do this. Is there any risk that you might lost unlimited data?
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There is always a risk. I would say, if this increase is true, I will try the BB trick before all is said and done. If they increase me, I will leave Verizon and go back to ATT. Around here I have better service with indoors with ATT anyways. All in all, they have just made things way too expensive now a days with non-sub phones (which I agree with) but the costs of line connections and everything else is stupid.
So all one would need to do is Buy a phone on Bestbuy's website and throw away the sim and use the old one? and you keep your old data plan? (reason i'm asking is because right now the Galaxy s6 edge is only 50 on contract)
Pretty much. Search the slickdeals threads for other instructions. Thanks for the heads up. If the increase deems true I will pick up two of these at $50.
Could I then reactivate my Note 3 (if I buy the S6 edge) and then sell it? Or does it have to stay activated on the account for a time period?
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Could I then reactivate my Note 3 (if I buy the S6 edge) and then sell it? Or does it have to stay activated on the account for a time period?
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I am no expert on the subject (yet), lol, but it looks like many activate the new phone then sell it. The acct is tied to the SIM, not the phone.
billku said:
Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Bilku I just went to the Best Buy website and it says that you have to choose one of the tiered plans because unlimited is no longer available. What is the updated method for dealing with this or were you able to pick "existing" at the time?
edit: just got this answer in another forum is this what you did?:
"Actually they don't make you choose anything.. They just tell you you'll be shifted to the default 2gb for 30 bucks tiered plan. Just acknowledge it and do the sim switch"
I've had my same verizon plan for years. Hate that they can upcharge for udp. Does this still work? Other than the Note 3, which phone can I hotspot with a removable battery?
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I've had my same verizon plan for years. Hate that they can upcharge for udp. Does this still work? Other than the Note 3, which phone can I hotspot with a removable battery?
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They can because they are Verizon. I bit the dust and went with a V10 upgrade last night. Gave the wife my Note 3, upgrading her from a Note 2. I like it, runs smooth, nice screen, everything works well, and with the promo of battery, 200gb card and charger, I couldn't pass it up. I don't like losing UDP, so went with the 18gb plan. With a 22% discount, same as 12 anyways.
I believe hotspot is "free", but haven't tried it yet.
Did anyone else try the BB method with success? jamor414? On a side note, I just got a replacement Note 3 (my old one stopped charging) and it actually had 4.4.2 on it! Pleasantly surprised...

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