As reported on CNET....Verizon will raise the cost of the Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan from $30 to $50 per month starting in mid-November.
However....Verizon also said they will no longer throttle users who retain their unlimited data plans....AND will no longer require payment in full when you get a new phone...you can now go on a monthly payment plan if you desire.
http://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-promises-an-open-road-for-unlimited-data-customers/?ref=yfp
I don't know about others...but I WILL keep my unlimited data, it's still cheaper than their 12GB tiered plan and I often go over that limit.
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Yeah, not too happy about that. I knew the gravy train wouldn't last forever. I've had other 'grandfathered' VZW features suddenly go up in smoke.
If I had Sprint and/or Tmobile coverage where I live, i'd be bailing to Project FI
Just do the Best Buy trick and you can get a discounted phone under contract for another 2 years at the grandfathered $29.99. They don't raise your rate until you're out of contract.
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Just do the Best Buy trick and you can get a discounted phone under contract for another 2 years at the grandfathered $29.99. They don't raise your rate until you're out of contract.
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The Best Buy trick has been killed.
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The Best Buy trick has been killed.
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Thanks for the heads up. I was recently told about it and that it works. Guess he's wrong.
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Thanks for the heads up. I was recently told about it and that it works. Guess he's wrong.
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Verizon no longer does contracts nor does it subsidize new phones. Both were part of the Best Buy trick.
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Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Verizon no longer does contracts nor does it subsidize new phones. Both were part of the Best Buy trick.
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Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Yea billku is right. If you go on Best Buy you can still buy subsidized phones with a contract with Verizon. So the tricks still works.
What is this trick?
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Yea billku is right. If you go on Best Buy you can still buy subsidized phones with a contract with Verizon. So the tricks still works.
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Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what is this trick?
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Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what is this trick?
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Well people with unlimited like to buy subsidized phones from Best Buy because it allows them to pay the subsidized cost instead of full retail while still keeping their data. The only downside is that it puts you into a 2 year contract with Verizon. Recently, however, this downside has turned into a massive upside. Starting November 15th your unlimited bill increases $20 per month for off-contract customers. If you lock into a contract before November 15th, your bill won't increase $20/month for another 24 months. The trick is to buy the phone online from best buy, throw away the sim card they give you, insert your current sim card, and you still have unlimited with a 2 year contract. But if you use the best buy sim card you lose unlimited forever.
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Well people with unlimited like to buy subsidized phones from Best Buy because it allows them to pay the subsidized cost instead of full retail while still keeping their data. The only downside is that it puts you into a 2 year contract with Verizon. Recently, however, this downside has turned into a massive upside. Starting November 15th your unlimited bill increases $20 per month for off-contract customers. If you lock into a contract before November 15th, your bill won't increase $20/month for another 24 months. The trick is to buy the phone online from best buy, throw away the sim card they give you, insert your current sim card, and you still have unlimited with a 2 year contract. But if you use the best buy sim card you lose unlimited forever.
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Nice summary. I'm still debating whether or not to do this. Is there any risk that you might lost unlimited data?
Is this increase confirmed though? They stated that current unlimited users will be notified after Oct 15th, and I have yet to be notified. I went into a Verizon corp store last week and even the employee did not hear about this. Not that you can believe what they say 99% of the time though, but regardless.
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Nice summary. I'm still debating whether or not to do this. Is there any risk that you might lost unlimited data?
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There is always a risk. I would say, if this increase is true, I will try the BB trick before all is said and done. If they increase me, I will leave Verizon and go back to ATT. Around here I have better service with indoors with ATT anyways. All in all, they have just made things way too expensive now a days with non-sub phones (which I agree with) but the costs of line connections and everything else is stupid.
So all one would need to do is Buy a phone on Bestbuy's website and throw away the sim and use the old one? and you keep your old data plan? (reason i'm asking is because right now the Galaxy s6 edge is only 50 on contract)
Pretty much. Search the slickdeals threads for other instructions. Thanks for the heads up. If the increase deems true I will pick up two of these at $50.
Could I then reactivate my Note 3 (if I buy the S6 edge) and then sell it? Or does it have to stay activated on the account for a time period?
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Could I then reactivate my Note 3 (if I buy the S6 edge) and then sell it? Or does it have to stay activated on the account for a time period?
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I am no expert on the subject (yet), lol, but it looks like many activate the new phone then sell it. The acct is tied to the SIM, not the phone.
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Actually, I just did the best buy trick last week. It absolutely still works. Verizon no longer subsidizes phones for new customers, but if you are were an existing customer before they did away with subsidized phones, you can still get a subsidized phone.
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Bilku I just went to the Best Buy website and it says that you have to choose one of the tiered plans because unlimited is no longer available. What is the updated method for dealing with this or were you able to pick "existing" at the time?
edit: just got this answer in another forum is this what you did?:
"Actually they don't make you choose anything.. They just tell you you'll be shifted to the default 2gb for 30 bucks tiered plan. Just acknowledge it and do the sim switch"
I've had my same verizon plan for years. Hate that they can upcharge for udp. Does this still work? Other than the Note 3, which phone can I hotspot with a removable battery?
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I've had my same verizon plan for years. Hate that they can upcharge for udp. Does this still work? Other than the Note 3, which phone can I hotspot with a removable battery?
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They can because they are Verizon. I bit the dust and went with a V10 upgrade last night. Gave the wife my Note 3, upgrading her from a Note 2. I like it, runs smooth, nice screen, everything works well, and with the promo of battery, 200gb card and charger, I couldn't pass it up. I don't like losing UDP, so went with the 18gb plan. With a 22% discount, same as 12 anyways.
I believe hotspot is "free", but haven't tried it yet.
Did anyone else try the BB method with success? jamor414? On a side note, I just got a replacement Note 3 (my old one stopped charging) and it actually had 4.4.2 on it! Pleasantly surprised...
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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When I talked to Verizon before getting my RAZR. They said the only way your plan will change, is if you upgrade after the tiered plans take affect. As long as you stayed with your old phone, or payed full retail, you would keep your old plan whatever it may be.
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orateam said:
Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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Backup apps local. It saves me time and aggravation.
64gb sd card is my next experiment
Battery life => 2 Days RazrMaxx
Or, as in my case, get your phone outside of Verizon. Then, it's not a contract renewal, it's an activation only since I didn't purchase the phone upgrade through them. I guess it's the same as purchasing it at full retail (unless you get it via ebay or as a trade from someone else). I didn't purchase my through Verizon so I got to keep my unlimited data and it will stay that way until they pry it from my cold, dead hands!
so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
orateam said:
so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
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Unless you do an upgrade via Verizon and don't pay full retail price. Basically, you are renewing your contract when you do the upgrade through Verizon. Then, at that point, you are beholden to Verizon to switch to the tiered pricing.
Otherwise, pay full retail price for the phone or get it from someone else that isn't connected with Verizon and then activate it on Verizon, you get to keep your unlimited data plan. I got my phone outside of Verizon so I didn't have to switch to the tiered plan.
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so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
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I'd call again, maybe ask a supervisor? I've been told at least 3 times that as long as you had service during the "unlimited" era that you would be considered "grandfathered" which means it would stay that way as long as you don't leave and come back and it's still on that same line. You can change the phone number, but if you leave for a period of time by canceling a contract prematurely OR leaving because it's over and try to come back, THEN you would no longer be considered "grandfathered" and would be at the mercy of the new plans. Even if you stay month to month AFTER the contract instead of renewing it, you would still be grandfathered as long as you didn't let the service on that line come to an actual complete end. I used my upgrade on the Razr just in the beginning of April and still have my "unlimited" data.
I left and came back and lost my unlimited. I'm very sad panda. Do everything u can to ensure u keep it even if means stuck on same phone!
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Shinare said:
I left and came back and lost my unlimited. I'm very sad panda. Do everything u can to ensure u keep it even if means stuck on same phone!
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I am doing what i can. Basically what i'm hearing from Verizon is that the grandfathering is only going to last till the end of the year and because you're not on a contract is not guaranteed. The only certain thing is they will not convert you next week. But that amount of time is VERY limited, perhaps 6 months before they pull that grandfathering.
Only through a new binding contract will they honor the unlimited rate. So if i get a new phone from them now, i get 2 years vs 6 months. For me at 6gigs a month the difference is $69 currently vs $135 on tiered. 18 extra months on unlimited if i get a contract will save me $1800.
Again, i know it's not a sure thing, but i'm just trying to find out how likely they are to end the grandfathering in 6 months. Even a little likely is too likely for me.
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I am doing what i can. Basically what i'm hearing from Verizon is that the grandfathering is only going to last till the end of the year and because you're not on a contract is not guaranteed. The only certain thing is they will not convert you next week. But that amount of time is VERY limited, perhaps 6 months before they pull that grandfathering.
Only through a new binding contract will they honor the unlimited rate. So if i get a new phone from them now, i get 2 years vs 6 months. For me at 6gigs a month the difference is $69 currently vs $135 on tiered. 18 extra months on unlimited if i get a contract will save me $1800.
Again, i know it's not a sure thing, but i'm just trying to find out how likely they are to end the grandfathering in 6 months. Even a little likely is too likely for me.
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What they mean by taking it away is that they won't honor it any more WHEN you do an upgrade of your phone through Verizon.
There are a number of ways to keep your unlimited data plan:
When it's time to upgrade your phone, purchase the phone at full retail price.
Purchase your phone via a 3rd party and take the phone to Verizon to activate it.
Stay on your current phone.
What it all boils down to is, do NOT renew your contract. Let it expire and stay on the month-to-month contract. Anything that makes you renew your contract to a new 2-year contract with Verizon WILL make you lose your unlimited data.
Since I purchased my RAZR outside of Verizon, I didn't renew my contract with Verizon, hence I kept my unlimited data and will continue to do so until I decide to take a subsidized upgrade through Verizon or leave them and come back at a later time. Otherwise, I will keep my unlimited data plan for as long as I please.
In the end, it IS cheaper in the long run to purchase the phone at full retail price because you'll pay MORE for it through the extra costs of the tiered data plan and the two-year binding contract.
ok, based on what you guys advise, i will keep my razr. i really love it and didn't want to change it.
Just for your guys info verizon does a double data deal every once in a while, in march i got my razr for a penny and got the 5gb plan that got doubled to 10gb... im a heavy user and i keep it under 10gb a month.. if you need more either your really taking advantage by tethering your whole house or doing something illegal...and if u are tethering ur whole house on unlimited lte ur definitely screwing us all over lol but more power to ya....
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Just for your guys info verizon does a double data deal every once in a while, in march i got my razr for a penny and got the 5gb plan that got doubled to 10gb... im a heavy user and i keep it under 10gb a month.. if you need more either your really taking advantage by tethering your whole house or doing something illegal...and if u are tethering ur whole house on unlimited lte ur definitely screwing us all over lol but more power to ya....
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Its really easy to go over your limit with netflix and you tubes... nottin illegal bout that.
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Listen, folks. If you are on a 2-year contract, once the two years is up, so is the contract. You do not have a contract. You do not have a "legally binding agreement" to hang over anyone's head.
And there is no such thing as a "month-to-month" contract. At the end of the billing period, VZW can change the terms. Because your "monthly contract" is not any kind of agreement that binds VZW to any conditions.
Want an example? Alltel customers were told their data plans, etc, would stay in effect "forever", as long as the customer did not initiate a change in the plan.
Phones could be upgraded every two years at a subsidized price and the data plan would not change.
Now, if a previous Alltel customer upgrades a phone, the data plan for all phones on the account changes.
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Listen, folks. If you are on a 2-year contract, once the two years is up, so is the contract. You do not have a contract. You do not have a "legally binding agreement" to hang over anyone's head.
And there is no such thing as a "month-to-month" contract. At the end of the billing period, VZW can change the terms. Because your "monthly contract" is not any kind of agreement that binds VZW to any conditions.
Want an example? Alltel customers were told their data plans, etc, would stay in effect "forever", as long as the customer did not initiate a change in the plan.
Phones could be upgraded every two years at a subsidized price and the data plan would not change.
Now, if a previous Alltel customer upgrades a phone, the data plan for all phones on the account changes.
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I kept my unlimited data and plan from Alltel until I upgraded into my bionic and added my wife to my account. My upgrade into my OG DROID, and DROIDX didn't have to change out of my Alltel plan. Not sure where you got your info from.
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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You could always buy a new phone and turn around and sell it on eBay if you want to stay on your current phone. If you are on contract then you keep your service as-is. If they change your service (even by a few pennies or change the terms of your service) you can get out of the contract. That is a fact. I've done it.
That being said, I really like my Razr Maxx. It has had the best battery of any phone I've used so far (3 others... fascinate, charge and droid 4). It should be getting ICS in the next couple weeks, hopefully (maybe sooner).
The stock Launcher on the Razr Maxx blows. Use Go Launcher or anything else for more features / more customization to suit your needs.
That's my 2 cents.
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After your 2 year contract is up, you are on a month-to-month PLAN... not contract. If they decide to take away something that you've had forever you can simply cancel your account.
It has been my experience that 9 times out of 10, talking to the cancellations department will get your XYZ reinstated that they tried to take away from you...but there is always that 10% chance that they follow through with it. Unlimited data may fall under that 10% chance pretty easily or not. Talking with your money and walking away does have power.
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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I would heed the warnings from the 2 CSR agents regarding so called month-to-month contracts. Once your contract expires, and you don't renew, there's no guarantee that you will be able to keep that unlimited data. VZW doesn't offer month-to-month contracts. Right now, they are saying that you will keep your unlimited data, but I wouldn't trust VZW. The 2 CSR's actually gave you a glimpse into what may be coming down the pipeline.
I would pre-order the SGSIII if your contract expires in July. At least lock up unlimited data for 2 more years. If you don't like it, I'm sure you could find someone willing to trade you a RAZR MAXX for it. Just swap your SIM card into the new phone, and your all done.
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What they mean by taking it away is that they won't honor it any more WHEN you do an upgrade of your phone through Verizon.
There are a number of ways to keep your unlimited data plan:
When it's time to upgrade your phone, purchase the phone at full retail price.
Purchase your phone via a 3rd party and take the phone to Verizon to activate it.
Stay on your current phone.
What it all boils down to is, do NOT renew your contract. Let it expire and stay on the month-to-month contract. Anything that makes you renew your contract to a new 2-year contract with Verizon WILL make you lose your unlimited data.
Since I purchased my RAZR outside of Verizon, I didn't renew my contract with Verizon, hence I kept my unlimited data and will continue to do so until I decide to take a subsidized upgrade through Verizon or leave them and come back at a later time. Otherwise, I will keep my unlimited data plan for as long as I please.
In the end, it IS cheaper in the long run to purchase the phone at full retail price because you'll pay MORE for it through the extra costs of the tiered data plan and the two-year binding contract.
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What he ^ said!
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Here is the quick run down. If you have unlimited data and upgrade after June 28th. You have to switch to tiered data pricing(2gb which is $30 or higher). If you have an upgrade now do it before June 28th! If you want to stick with unlimited and be grandfathered in the future. You have to either pay full retail price for the phone from verizon(which will have 1 year warranty) or buy phones from ebay, craigslist, swappa or other places which does not require any contract.
I am a Verizon employee. Ask me any question that you might have. I can clarify and help you guys as much as I can.
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Here is the quick run down. If you have unlimited data and upgrade after June 28th. You have to switch to tiered data pricing(2gb which is $30 or higher). If you have an upgrade now do it before June 28th! If you want to stick with unlimited and be grandfathered in the future. You have to either pay full retail price for the phone from verizon(which will have 1 year warranty) or buy phones from ebay, craigslist, swappa or other places which does not require any contract.
I am a Verizon employee. Ask me any question that you might have. I can clarify and help you guys as much as I can.
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How will this work for family share plans?
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I'm on Verizon obviously and I was lucky enough (at the time) to have been grandfathered into that 1400 minute plan with unlimited data. We have two phones, HTC Rezound(mine) and a Motorola DX2(wife), both do for upgrades in August. I'm probably going to wait until some new phones come out, nothing I see entices me right now.
Down to the point, how can we upgrade without losing our unlimited data? What are our options, any way to get around this? My wife is dying for a new phone, here DX2 is 2 years old and falling apart plus I'd love to get away from HTC. I appreciate any help with this.
Really the only way is to buy a phone off-contract.
Yeah as far as buying new, either catch a sale right around launch and buy it retail or wait until the phones been out a few months or so until they're cheaper than the retail price at online auctions or classified listing.
Or you can add a new line and get a new phone. Then swap Sims and activate an old dumb phone on the new line which allows you to not have to pay the $30 smartphone package. Ends up costing about 12-15 after the 9.99 monthly charge with taxes and usage fees added on.
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I guess you have to buy one off contract. Swappa is great for buying gently used phones. Or you could buy a Nexus 4 or Nexus 5 when it comes out.
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Really the only way is to buy a phone off-contract.
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This
#BlameAnt
Can I at least pay monthly if I need to pay full price? I really don't want to leave VZW but $1200 for knew phones is crazy.
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xXezmacXx said:
Can I at least pay monthly if I need to pay full price? I really don't want to leave VZW but $1200 for knew phones is crazy.
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I am pretty sure they will let you spread out payments.
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I am pretty sure they will let you spread out payments.
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Too bad I can threaten them by leaving and going to tmo or sprint lol. I also saw a post a while back that someone went to Costco or a similar store like them and the rep at the kiosk gave him the 2yr upgrade price and kept his unl data. I wish I could find it.
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Too bad I can threaten them by leaving and going to tmo or sprint lol. I also saw a post a while back that someone went to Costco or a similar store like them and the rep at the kiosk gave him the 2yr upgrade price and kept his unl data. I wish I could find it.
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If I remember that thread he got it by transferring the upgrade from one line to his or something. I think that's what happened.
Right now I'm on the old Nationwide Family Talk & Text plan. We have 2 phones; 1400 min, unlimited data and text. My girlfriend and I don't even come close to 1400. I took a screenshot of my data usage and my gf's from the vzw app. I believe it shows that I used over 5gb for this billing period so far? Am I able to see last months total data usage online? My 3yr old uses my phone a lot so I'm worried about tier data plans. Oh and we pay about $175 a month for this plan for two phones which is insane
I think these are all of my options? Which do you feel is the best for me in the long run?
A. Pay full retail for two new phones and use the monthly payment plan so I can keep my unlimited data?
B. Switch to a data tier plan and drop unlimited so I can get the 2yr phone discount prices?
C. Wait until Dec when my contract is done and then switch to another carrier?
D. Try and find a use phone on Craigslist?
Right now I have a Rezound (used from Asurion) and my GF has a cracked DX2. Where looking at maybe the S4 or a 5s when it comes out. We always wanted to try iPhones.
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Not sure if anyone really cares or not but I just knocked $105 off my AT&T Family plan bill with their new Mobile Share Value Plans.
I'm not a sales agent for AT&T, I'm just letting my fellow XDA users know.
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html#fbid=K-dU-76XrWB
This is a real deal if you have a large family plan like i do with 5 lines and all smartphones. I was able to lower my bill to $192 a month from $306 the previous month with one phone call. And even better we are getting 10gigs a month now vs the 6gigs i was on.
I know I'm going to take some heat for spamming the board but if one person saves some money I'll be happy
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Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
Ya, I saw those plans, heck, it's even worth it for just 2 lines and 10Gig, $100+$15+$15=$130. I am paying 70 for my single line and only 2gig of data. I know, everyone will tell me to go to a prepay, but I HAVE to have the microcell so I am stuck.
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Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
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yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
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yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
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Unl plans are caped at 3 GB... Then u get the slowest speed...
10 GB = $100 + 15 per device
15 GB = $130 + 15 per device
Completely worth it. Now if you do an upgrade after moving to the plan instead of paying 15 for that line you will pay 40... they are trying to cope somehow how T-Mobile works.
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I went ahead and jumped on this. I had to give up 1 unlimited (LTE) data plan, which was throttled after 5GBs anyway. I think it's worth it to save $90/month.
We went to the value plan. Only two lines, so no massive savings. Went to from 6 to 10 GB for $10 cheaper
I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
Ive held on to my 2 line unlimited everything plan for years, paying about $185 before taxes and fees. I think it makes sense to go for this new plan, which drops the price down to $150 while sharing 10gigs. i've only ever gone over 3gigs in a month two times.
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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From a purely monetary standpoint, yes - however, when you compare the data that you receive (10 GB vs 4/6GB), you are still saving money if you use that much data. But without taking advantage of the subsidized upgrades, you would most likely even out.
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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My understanding from the AT&T rep (and my bill) is that each smartphone in the value plans are now $40 per month with a $25 monthly credit, so net $15.
If I upgrade using a Next plan, the $25 credit remains. (Next = a 0% interest loan to purchase the phone over 20 months.)
If I upgrade using a 2-year subsidy, the $25 credit is removed. (Making for a really expensive upgrade-- 24 * $25 + $200 up front = $800 for an iPhone 5S that I could purchase outright for $650.) Not that I'd purchase a 5S, but just an example of how an already overpriced phone just got even more expensive.
Basically, they really do not want people buying subsidized phones, and that's fine with me. I'd rather purchase the phone I want on my own timing and pay for it outright.
Up until the value plans it made sense to do 2-year upgrades because AT&T was already padding their rate plans with the subsidy cost, whether you upgraded or BYOP you paid for it.
Now, it makes more sense to just BYOP.
Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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This is good news, I was worried that when i upgraded with NEXT it would go from $15 to $40. I guess I should have read into it a little more, but yeah, my family is saving close to $100 since we switched to the value plan.
Love this plan. Switched to it immediately.
The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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+1 and you are still dealing with the bloat. Going unlocked from here on out. These value plans are nice. Thanks @t-mobile! ? and AT&T for falling in line..
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Upgrades?
I changed to the shared plan two months ago, losing my useless unlimited plan. I moved 5 phones. Two of them were eligible for upgrades at the time, but I was holding them for when I really wanted them. I need one now. I went to the ATT website and checked upgrade-ability. The two phones seem like they have subsidized plans available to them. I can also do the Next plan for any of my phones for the same price. So I can pay zero interest for 20 months, have no plan commitment, and pay in full for my daughter's new iphone over 20 months, or I can pay $199 for the phone, a one-time $36 upgrade fee, and commit for another two years of my shared plan. There is no change to the basic rate.
In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
Moved from Sprint to VZW. Back in 2011 VZW had better signal here. 3 years later, Sprint has the better towers, unlocked phones and unlimited data. Def regret that transition.
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Got my vzw galaxy s4 from best buy(phone, case, and screen protector) for $85. I also got to keep my unlimited data plan. The asshole at vzw lied and told me that best buy could only offer the 2gb.
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I upgraded...I used the available upgrade on my unlimited line, transferred the upgrade to my wife's 2GB line, bought the S4 on upgrade, then had it activated on my unlimited line. She still has her upgrade coming up too.
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In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
I upgraded two of my lines to the s4 and kept unlimited on both of them. I used two dumb phone upgrades, once the phones arrived I activated them, swapped my SIM cards and called to pull data off those lines. Was really easy.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
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Only have one line. Always only one line. I am familiar with the trick of using a second line to keep the unlimited, but I never did that. All I did was go to the website, login... click upgrade... add GS4 to cart ...pay for..confirm..finish.
That was actually my second attempt to buy the GS4. I had went online to buy it a week before but backed out in the 2nd step. It was where a popup would come on screen and force you to change your data plan to a tiered data plan because it said my current unlimited data plan could no longer be used. ....Well..the 2nd time I went to buy it, that screen never came up. Idk man. I was like.....whistle whistle..just waiting for it. Im glad it didnt because that More Everything plan is a joke. I cant believe they'd charge THAT much for just 2GB..WTF how they call that MORE?
Thanks, Cops. That is good to know, Very interesting.
I got my GS4 last May and I did it using the transfer-an-upgrade trick, but it was a PITA because I didn't actually have a second line at the time (and still don't, but that's another story). Anyway, I'll probably be sticking with my GS4 until my current contract is up - so, another ryear. But, it's good to know a new trick to try the next time I want to upgrade.
Yeah, it has to be a glitch in the VZW website. I was using Firefox so maybe its an issue with how FF handled the script on the page?
Wish I had better choices here where I live. I researched....only AT&T and T-mobile..AT&T is just as bad as VZW in crappy plan pricing. TMO has crappy coverage here as well as Sprint. I hate having very limited choices.
Edge plan
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In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
Gahar said:
I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
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damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
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damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
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My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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Gahar said:
My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
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Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
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Damn. I guess HR people from my job didn't do their math and if they did its their lost. Nice to know the price breakdown. Thanks
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Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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