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is the bootload unlockable on a stock ota 4.5.9.1 atnt atrix? i am unclear from what i've read. i just want to unlock and start going to roms. is that possible or the 4.5.9.1 is stuck? the reason i ask is i want to start learning how to tweak stuff for myself and maybe others, and if goes well, i move on to bigger things, so this is my dev phone, if you will. i can't have a "beta" phone. i need reliability so another phone is called for.
Yes it is, I unlocked it with the with the automatic bootloader unlocker in the ATRIX 4g general thread by mramirezusa. Give that a look. Its not that complicated either to root with the tool too. If you FOLLOW directions, you wont brick your phone.
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Im wondering the same thing one post u read it says its safe then u read another one n it says to wait wtf im pulling my hair out i want it to fix my battery problem im having
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ok, 1st off i'm used to my Evo4G so i know very little about the Photon...yet. So my question is, right now as it stands, if i get the Photon I can root it & run all the root apps & functions & still have 4G, but from the bits i read, if I unlocked the bootloader as well, Ill lose 4G, can sumone clear this up for me?
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ok, 1st off i'm used to my Evo4G so i know very little about the Photon...yet. So my question is, right now as it stands, if i get the Photon I can root it & run all the root apps & functions & still have 4G, but from the bits i read, if I unlocked the bootloader as well, Ill lose 4G, can sumone clear this up for me?
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You are correct. But you can unlock the bootloader and then lock it back up. So its like this:
Root and Unlock Bootloader
Install CWM
Install one of the only two ROMS we currently have
re-lock bootloader
Install bootstrap recovery
install updates to whichever ROM you want through bootstrap
Enjoy custom ROM with locked bootloader and 4g love
It is really just an extra step until we get the kernel source code. This is an absolute great phone and we have great people in this forum to help you out. There are quite a few guides on how to do all of this, if you want to PM me I can help you one on one get it done if need be. Other than that, hope to see you around these parts
-DJ
So could i just wait for an easier method or do you not think there will be one
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
So could i just wait for an easier method or do you not think there will be one
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I don't know, I find it pretty easy to do, and I'm not very good at adb stuff. I believe there is a one click root tool also and it only takes like 3 minutes to unlock the bootloader.
So I think the whole thing is pretty easy myself. Up to you really.
-DJ
One thing I want to ask.
This is what is keeping me from even rooting. how do I unroot? In case I return this phone?
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hayabusa1300cc said:
One thing I want to ask.
This is what is keeping me from even rooting. how do I unroot? In case I return this phone?
.: sent from Planet Photon:.
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Just flash the original sbf file through rsd lite.
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You are correct. But you can unlock the bootloader and then lock it back up. So its like this:
Root and Unlock Bootloader
Install CWM
Install one of the only two ROMS we currently have
re-lock bootloader
Install bootstrap recovery
install updates to whichever ROM you want through bootstrap
Enjoy custom ROM with locked bootloader and 4g love
It is really just an extra step until we get the kernel source code. This is an absolute great phone and we have great people in this forum to help you out. There are quite a few guides on how to do all of this, if you want to PM me I can help you one on one get it done if need be. Other than that, hope to see you around these parts
-DJ
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Thanks man, really appreciate it. I been wanting to get one & try see how i like it but i'm so used to being fully rooted, unlocked bootloader & all & running custom roms & didn't know much about it yet so I was unsure & that played a big part. But again, thanks alot!
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I don't know, I find it pretty easy to do, and I'm not very good at adb stuff. I believe there is a one click root tool also and it only takes like 3 minutes to unlock the bootloader.
So I think the whole thing is pretty easy myself. Up to you really.
-DJ
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I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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I had an ogEvo as well and new to the whole bootstrap but most of this stuff just sounds complex. Really isn't a huge deal once you get your feet wet. I had the same reservations when getting the ogEVO but over time ended up doing about everything to it. Never borked it once.
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I just dont want to bork my phone ive had pretty good luck with my Og evo, epic, nexus s, and E3D this just seems a bit more scary never had to deal with a bootstrap
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Yea, it really isn't that bad, a bootstrap is more harmless than a real recovery actually. Its just like installing an app from the market really.
And on the borking the android phones. I think this is extremely hard to do because I had an OgEvo and I don't think I could have bricked that if I tried. I think Android is some of the most user friendliest software out there in my opinion. I even thought I bricked my Photon the other day, but I didn't, you always just find out it's user error 99% of the time!
At least for me it is. lol
As for the root/unlock process with the photon, I think it is very easy once you run through it a couple times. I may make a video so people aren't so scared to try it out.
-DJ
Hey all,
Just got a Rezound as a replacement for my Droid Charge. This is my first HTC phone since the Touch Pro 2. I was a regular visitor to the DC forums and tried every custom rom and hack you could find there. Coming to the Rezound and reading about the root methods and custom roms seems a bit daunting compared to the method for Samsung phones. I would really like to just start with Stock Rooted and was hoping that this all in one tool will help me achieve that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504824 Can someone confirm this for me. Also, do I need to have the supersu apk on my sdcard or will that tool provide it as well?
Also, will using CWM be okay (purely out of familiarity) once I start tinkering with custom roms and the such? Seems like there is another recovery more popular here.
Any video on someone flashing a custom rom on this phone from start to finish? That would help a lot.
So far I am loving this phone. HD screen is awesome, camera quality took a shot compared to my DC but I don't really care. Much needed boost in processor power finally allows me to play games I previously purchased but didn't have a strong enough phone to play.
I am looking forward to getting to learn more about this phone and participate in future discussions. Soon as I get a custom rom (maybe this weekend) up I will be in full force! Thanks for all of your help in advance.
When it comes to recoveries just use amon ra. Seems like to me there is a lot less problems with it. The all in one toolkit is awesome. It is were I started. Just read the tutorial that is with the all in one. That's all I did. I came from a droid.charge so I know the.difference between the two. I would recommend s off though. Not as scary as it sounds. And it frees your device. So much more u can do such as putting global capabilities to use.
Also a link for all in one soff tool kit. Makes flashing so much easier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27076140
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When it comes to recoveries just use amon ra. Seems like to me there is a lot less problems with it. The all in one toolkit is awesome. It is were I started. Just read the tutorial that is with the all in one. That's all I did. I came from a droid.charge so I know the.difference between the two. I would recommend s off though. Not as scary as it sounds. And it frees your device. So much more u can do such as putting global capabilities to use.
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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Yes, if you are S-off, the kernel will usually flash along with the Rom. Just read the Dev's OP before flashing any Rom as they will indicate if you need to fastboot flash the boot.img or if they have a PH98IMG.zip to flash separately. Honestly though, I am considering resetting my security flag back to S-On and manually flashing kernels any way to prevent the risk of bricking the phone. Haven't decided yet.
As for the s-off method, don't even sweat it. just make sure you watch the video and do exactly what it does by touching the correct points with the wire and you'll get it. Not really that hard, might just have to try a few times.
So, welcome!! :highfive:
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I may request your help as you will understand my point of reference. Yeah I am working up the nerve to S-Off soon. When I saw that wire I got a bit worried. I exclaimed "REALLY?!" when I saw the procedure. My wife thought something wrong happened. Cool, well I will read up on that and figure out which Kernel Rom combo I want. Is it similar to the DC where a rom will come with the kernel in a recovery flash package? I should figure it all soon enough. Just need to get the elections out of my hair.
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I wouldn't even worry about going S-OFF. It just makes the flashing process a little bit longer.
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I wouldn't even worry about going S-OFF. It just makes the flashing process a little bit longer.
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You mean shorter?
But op, don't worry about s off. If your worried about what the old lady says, don't tell her your doing it
My wife gets freaked out when I tinker with stuff like that so I just do it in private
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Welcome to the Rezound...I think I remember you from the Charge forums.
It looks like everyone else has taken good care of you..I just want to be another voice saying that CWM is the worst possible option for recovery on this phone. Also, I'm surprised about your camera comments. I was never able to make a good picture with the Charge no matter how hard I tried, but I can get good pics out of the Rez without any effort at all.
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You mean shorter?
But op, don't worry about s off. If your worried about what the old lady says, don't tell her your doing it
My wife gets freaked out when I tinker with stuff like that so I just do it in private
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Hahaha glad I'm not the only one.. she won't let me get her an android cuz she knows I'll mess with it, so she's sticking with iPhone.. lol
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famouscollin said:
Hahaha glad I'm not the only one.. she won't let me get her an android cuz she knows I'll mess with it, so she's sticking with iPhone.. lol
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I'm gonna get my wife the nexus 4 for Christmas but I *might* have a hidden agenda (I know no lte but we don't get lte here anyways)
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shrike1978 said:
Welcome to the Rezound...I think I remember you from the Charge forums.
It looks like everyone else has taken good care of you..I just want to be another voice saying that CWM is the worst possible option for recovery on this phone. Also, I'm surprised about your camera comments. I was never able to make a good picture with the Charge no matter how hard I tried, but I can get good pics out of the Rez without any effort at all.
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Good to see you here Shrike, I recognize your avatar and know that you have provided me with many helpful comments. Seeing you hear makes me feel better.
Had some more time with the camera and I formally retract my previous statement(s) about the camera. It handles indoor lighting and low lighting wayyyyy better than my charge. The charge gave nice pictures only in a well lit (sunlight) scene. What I like best is that it compensates pretty well for the flash. Things would look flushed out on shutter and appear clear in the image, vs the charge where the flash on close subjects just made white blobs.
Thanks for the warm reception everyone.
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You mean shorter?
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That's what I meant. I was trying to say that not S-offing made it longer.
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Check out my TWRP thread in the dev. If you don't want to S-OFF. It shows a great way to flash ROMs/Kernels inside of recovery while being S-ON. It's called HTC Dumlock. The official CWM sucks! Don't use it. If you use CWM use the version found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914215
Coming from an s3 I am wondering if this may be true. Toolkit to unlock and root. Then a Odin image to revert to stock if needed
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My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Toolkits should be banned from Android. They just allow people to do stuff that is well over their head, and when they fail, the user has an "OH ****" moment and quite possibly, makes things worse trying to recover. You should learn how to do it manually so you know what you're doing, and doing anything manually also forces you to learn a few things in the process that can save you later.
Also, we already have a method back to stock, so I'm not sure why that's still needed.
imnuts said:
My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Toolkits should be banned from Android. They just allow people to do stuff that is well over their head, and when they fail, the user has an "OH ****" moment and quite possibly, makes things worse trying to recover. You should learn how to do it manually so you know what you're doing, and doing anything manually also forces you to learn a few things in the process that can save you later.
Also, we already have a method back to stock, so I'm not sure why that's still needed.
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Words of wisdom right there!
^ Yup learn it please save me from reading 25 pages of people asking for help on simple mods
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Lol....toolkits and the people that develop them rock!!!!
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imnuts said:
My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Toolkits should be banned from Android. They just allow people to do stuff that is well over their head, and when they fail, the user has an "OH ****" moment and quite possibly, makes things worse trying to recover. You should learn how to do it manually so you know what you're doing, and doing anything manually also forces you to learn a few things in the process that can save you later.
Also, we already have a method back to stock, so I'm not sure why that's still needed.
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This is a really good point.
When I rooted my Thunderbolt, I tried using a toolkit, and it didn't work. I was stuck halfway through the root process with no way back and no idea how to continue.
As it turned out, the download wasn't quite perfect, one of the images I was flashing to get s-off was corrupt. The toolkit never checked. I damn near bricked my phone because I was a noob and used a toolkit.
My advice is, don't do it, not for your first time. Once you understand how to recover if the toolkit fails, then you can use one. But not before.
I rooted my HTC Eris before there was a one click root/unlock app. Imagine a noob who knows nothing about Android setting up SDK and flashing images with adb. This was before you could find noob friendly guides and asking questions almost always got you flamed. I had no idea what I was doing. Once I finally rooted and unlocked I flashed a rom that boot looped. My first ever XDA post was "HELP!! Am I Bricked??".
Moral of the story, I did it the hard way and learned a little along the way. I've rooted/modded every device I've owned since.
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Yep I don't think youre broke in yet unless you've went through a few minute to an hour of sweating bullets thinking you now own a 700 dollar paper weight. First time I rooted was the original adb push method with the bolt. I skipped a step and fouled it up but recovered by just figuring it out. (Mainly cause I didn't want to get flamed) anyway. Always wanting the simple way out is not always the best. Besides it doesn't get a whole lot easier than using casual. Took like 15 minutes and 8 of that was waiting on the first flash. Its literally 3 steps. It would be that with a toolkit.
I know how to do it. Just that doing it over and over again is time cosuming
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G1 took my virginity and then the droid ... both of those phones made me cringe at times lol
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ihavenewnike said:
I know how to do it. Just that doing it over and over again is time cosuming
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Doing it via a toolkit isn't going to save any significant amount of time as you would still need to have the images downloaded and then flash them, both of which are going to be the two longest parts of the process. There also shouldn't be a reason to ever have to unlock again as there are stock restore packages that will retain the unlock status of the phone.
imnuts said:
My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Toolkits should be banned from Android. They just allow people to do stuff that is well over their head, and when they fail, the user has an "OH ****" moment and quite possibly, makes things worse trying to recover. You should learn how to do it manually so you know what you're doing, and doing anything manually also forces you to learn a few things in the process that can save you later.
Also, we already have a method back to stock, so I'm not sure why that's still needed.
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Well said! I used one click methods on my OG Evo when I was a noob and was constantly scared to death every time I got in a boot loop and other scary things for a begginer. I agree! Learn from the bottom up even if its just rooting, unlocking, flashing and backing up.
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Well it would still be nice to have one. I know how to do it personally, but like the galaxy s3 we had the rooting toolkit and the app to unlock. It is a luxury nice to have. Hopefully omeone will make one
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Aint nothing wrong with having a toolkit.As long as ppl check the MD5 they will be fine. I learned to use both ways when i had my thunderbolt and to be honest it is much easier to have the toolkit.Yes should should know how to root / unroot manually. Yes there should be an easy way for those that decide to use the toolkit.Obviosly using both ways you still have ppl that are always asking the same questionie.. Help i bricked my phone or How to do this or that. but guess what thats what makes this forum great. you have options to do it either way.It also makes the person or persons who do the toolkit get thanked!!!! lol well thats all im gonna say about that!
imnuts said:
My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Toolkits should be banned from Android. They just allow people to do stuff that is well over their head, and when they fail, the user has an "OH ****" moment and quite possibly, makes things worse trying to recover. You should learn how to do it manually so you know what you're doing, and doing anything manually also forces you to learn a few things in the process that can save you later.
Also, we already have a method back to stock, so I'm not sure why that's still needed.
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Just because a person chooses an easy method doesn't mean they don't know or can't learn the actual method, and just because s person can follow step by step instructions doesn't mean they actually learned anything.
The first time I rooted an Android device I did it using the command line on my phone, no PC needed.
The second time I used z4root.
we now have a root tool kit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
droidstyle said:
we now have a root tool kit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
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Hellz ya... but no camera..... guess we can call it give and take huh... I do use my camera and supposedly it exploit is only for rooted phones.. if im wrong please let me know but thats what ive read on android authority.
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crazydad said:
Aint nothing wrong with having a toolkit.As long as ppl check the MD5 they will be fine. I learned to use both ways when i had my thunderbolt and to be honest it is much easier to have the toolkit.Yes should should know how to root / unroot manually. Yes there should be an easy way for those that decide to use the toolkit.Obviosly using both ways you still have ppl that are always asking the same questionie.. Help i bricked my phone or How to do this or that. but guess what thats what makes this forum great. you have options to do it either way.It also makes the person or persons who do the toolkit get thanked!!!! lol well thats all im gonna say about that!
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I can agree to this. My wife's tbolt crapped out on her. It's easier to have a toolkit to quickly get the new device unlocked/rooted so I could restore her backup img on the new phone.
Having never used a toolkit for any phone, I can likely root or restore any phone I have just as fast as the toolkit could for someone. You learn how to do everything manually, and you will learn that in most cases, it's easier to do it that way. Also, the toolkit wouldn't work properly anyway as it would need to be able to execute Odin, select a tar, and then flash it. While you could get an application to do this, it would require other pre-requisites to do so. My opinion is that everyone should just stop being lazy, suck it up, and deal with the methods available, and if you can't do that, then learn to love stock. There is nothing hard about rooting, unlocking, reverting to stock, or anything else that I've seen yet.
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Hellz ya... but no camera..... guess we can call it give and take huh... I do use my camera and supposedly it exploit is only for rooted phones.. if im wrong please let me know but thats what ive read on android authority.
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read the post...camera is only broke on the s3 using that method.
Can we use the HTC One section as well? Or are we limited to just the roms in the at&t forum? Thanks.
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With an avatar like that, there are no limits:laugh:
For real though, it's all up to you and what you want to do. Roms from both will work, flash them at will and see what works best for you. There will be differences in some vs others, radio, firmware, etc..., but it's all good. S-off will give you unlimited opportunities. Happy endeavors.
One more thing. Are root manuals and other guides apply as well. Such as rooting and s off? It's kinda confusing to me. Thanks for the reply.
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It doesn't really matter where you post. Most of these threads support both US Carriers and International versions of the HTC One
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One more thing. Are root manuals and other guides apply as well. Such as rooting and s off? It's kinda confusing to me. Thanks for the reply.
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Unlock is done via www.htcdev.com, and S-Off is done via RR. Just make SURE you use the right version of RumRunner. It MUST match, or you will get into trouble quick. Now, here is the interesting part. You must be unlocked to use Rumrunner, but once you S-Off, you will be locked again. To do certain things you will need to re-run the unlock.bin, and re-unlock. Not a big deal, but just to let you know.