Hey all!
I've been messing around with a few ROMs, and hear several people talk about backing up and restoring. From the sounds of it, they do a much better/faster job than I can. So I was wondering if there was a listing of what apps and practices that people use for backing up and restoring. If there isn't, would anyone be averse if I started something along those lines?
Currently I am using Helium, and I have used Titanium Backup before.
hbar98 said:
Hey all!
I've been messing around with a few ROMs, and hear several people talk about backing up and restoring. From the sounds of it, they do a much better/faster job than I can. So I was wondering if there was a listing of what apps and practices that people use for backing up and restoring. If there isn't, would anyone be averse if I started something along those lines?
Currently I am using Helium, and I have used Titanium Backup before.
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I think a "Noob guide on backing up/restoring" would be a good thread to have, so I say go for it. Especially for Titanium as I'm pretty sure I'm not using it to it's fullest potential. The more knowledge out there for those starting off, the better.
For what it's worth, the only backing up I do is a Nandroid with TWRP and then Titanium.
Awesome! I'll give it a few more days (mainly because I'm at dragon con), and we'll see then!
So, when you restore from a clean wipe, do you restore from nandroid, or do you use another app to extract from the nandroid?
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hbar98 said:
Awesome! I'll give it a few more days (mainly because I'm at dragon con), and we'll see then!
So, when you restore from a clean wipe, do you restore from nandroid, or do you use another app to extract from the nandroid?
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The nandroid can be restored (it wiped before restoring anyways) or if you just want your apps, skip the nandrpid and use something like Titanium Backup or whatever app of your choice.
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Also, I forgot to mention that I occasionally use Nandroid Manager, which is very cool. Instead of restoring the full nandroid, you can choose individual parts of your nandroids to restore.
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Let me preface this with: I appreciate the work that Devs do and I'm not ungrateful for anything that has been done. I'm just trying to get some justification.
I'm having doubts about keeping VooDoo mainly because when you create a Nandroid it doesn't backup the Data.
-I used SpareParts before to make screen transitions and animations faster
-I don't really see a huge speed boost from VooDoo
-I feel like my recovery isn't complete right now
-I don't really care about quadrant scores/linpack results because my phone runs fast based on performance NOT based on some numbers.
Thanks for your help
If you don't want it and can't tell the diffrence then get rid of it. Why do you need convincing? Seems like you'd be much happier without it, and like you said recovery doesn't work all the way.
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Since jumping to voodoo my fascinate is working like I want it.no FC's and great speed.
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I'm very grateful for the devs too.
Anyhow, I think voodoo does have better phone performance. I do think the phone is much snappier (compared to before...).
Regarding nandroid, yeah I understand that issue. I totally agree too. I also think "most" of the times of playing around with the phone, I would have voodoo disabled, so that doing something that would crash my phone and would require a nandroid would still be viable. Granted, thats if I made a nandroid backup beforehand (disable VD, nandroid, re-enable VD)
Why do people keep saying "nandroid"? What is that? When I made a backup I just went into clockwork and clicked on create backup. I didn't see anything mention nandroid.
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If you don't want it and can't tell the diffrence then get rid of it. Why do you need convincing? Seems like you'd be much happier without it, and like you said recovery doesn't work all the way.
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Well I'm trying to get some reasons to keep it that I may be missing. Cause it seems like its a pain to remove voodoo. If I remove it, I'm going to completely remove it, not just the remove voodoo file thing.
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Why do people keep saying "nandroid"? What is that? When I made a backup I just went into clockwork and clicked on create backup. I didn't see anything mention nandroid.
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The backups are called nandroid backups, because the backup your nand, or memory. For some people it doesn't work correctly with voodoo for whatever reason.
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You can make nandroid backups, you just remove voodoo, make the backup, reinstall voodoo.
To remove, you create your disable_lagfix file and reboot. Wait for the uninstall process. Once you're back to normal, make your backup. Then remove the disable_lagfix file, and reboot once more, and wait for the reinstall process.
It might take you an extra 15 minutes, but it sure beats the 2 days it takes to get the phone back to "just how you had it".
As far as convincing you, I have better things to do with my time.. Like the guy said, if it's not what you want, don't use it.
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Well I'm trying to get some reasons to keep it that I may be missing. Cause it seems like its a pain to remove voodoo. If I remove it, I'm going to completely remove it, not just the remove voodoo file thing.
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It shouldn't be that much of a pain. From what i understand, voodoo is really only to fix the "lag" of all galaxy variants using a slower ext cache or filesystem by moving the system to a faster partition. I coul be wrong on that. Its supposedly to speed up the phone and reduce lag. If you haven't noticed a diffrence, maybe try an overclock kernal.
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Why would I try someone who I don't like or think has much intelligence?
namebrandon said:
You can make nandroid backups, you just remove voodoo, make the backup, reinstall voodoo.
To remove, you create your disable_lagfix file and reboot. Wait for the uninstall process. Once you're back to normal, make your backup. Then remove the disable_lagfix file, and reboot once more, and wait for the reinstall process.
It might take you an extra 15 minutes, but it sure beats the 2 days it takes to get the phone back to "just how you had it".
As far as convincing you, I have better things to do with my time.. Like the guy said, if it's not what you want, don't use it.
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More like 2 mins with a nandroid backup and odin.
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Well I think I just got my first problem. I can't seem to delete apps from the touchwiz menu by clicking menu>edit> and clicking the red minus sign...
taypotts said:
Well I think I just got my first problem. I can't seem to delete apps from the touchwiz menu by clicking menu>edit> and clicking the red minus sign...
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That could be a problem. You could always try pushing touchwizlauncher30.apk to system\app using adb.
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bubby323 said:
That could be a problem. You could always try pushing touchwizlauncher30.apk to system\app using adb.
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Tried that, and no go. Idk what was going on, but I decided to go ahead back to the stock kernel. I'll probably end of flashing back but here is what made me go back:
-I couldn't format my phone easily
-My recovery just didn't feel complete
-Didn't see much of an improvement (could of been that I wasn't on an overclock kernel)
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More like 2 mins with a nandroid backup and odin.
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Odin and nandroid wont fix your mbr
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More like 2 mins with a nandroid backup and odin.
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I don't think you quite understand what's going on here. But you go ahead and try that and see how it works out for you.
Seeing as I have flashed 4 different roms on my phone and made a nandroid of each and I don't want to keep making backups of them that way I'm thinking of using titanium or my backup. Not sure which is the best and with google's 15 min test limit that really doesn't do me any good so I was wondering what others thought of which app to use.
funkyboy1281 said:
Seeing as I have flashed 4 different roms on my phone and made a nandroid of each and I don't want to keep making backups of them that way I'm thinking of using titanium or my backup. Not sure which is the best and with google's 15 min test limit that really doesn't do me any good so I was wondering what others thought of which app to use.
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I've been using titanium backup free for about a year. Easy to use, and It's what I would say most flashaholics here at xda use. I definitely recommend it for anybody who has root.
Thank me if I've helped!
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tjb3401 said:
I've been using titanium backup free for about a year. Easy to use, and It's what I would say most flashaholics here at xda use. I definitely recommend it for anybody who has root.
Thank me if I've helped!
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Free sucks so bad compared to the paid version! The paid version automates the whole process of restoring, so you don't have to hit install for every app it just does it for you. I love titanium backup so much I have over 200 apps so it's a real life saver.
I've never used my back up pro, but I'd really like to hear some peoples opinions on it and if it's better.
Can anyone help me out getting rid of blur in my phone or pointing me to a thread that has these instructions? Looking forward to having a blur-less DX2.....thanks
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Eclipse! New version will be coming out soon. Blurless and simply wonderful
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I've heard a lot about it.....the only thing is that I really don't wanna do a factory reset.....Im assuming there's no way around it eh?
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whiplash473 said:
I've heard a lot about it.....the only thing is that I really don't wanna do a factory reset.....Im assuming there's no way around it eh?
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Nope...if you start flashing roms and playing with this kinda stuff get used to factory resets...not trying to put you off but when you start getting into roms ect..the benefits outweigh having to redo your phone. Its a pain and it always seems like once you have your phone just the way you want it a new rom or something comes out. Just do a nandroid backup in recovery that way if you don't like it you can revert back to the way your phone was setup the way you had it. That way you always have a backup.
Try titanium backup. It'll let you backup your settings before you wrote your phone.
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Try titanium backup. It'll let you backup your settings before you wrote your phone.
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Don't listen to him. Never restore settings. This causes a lot of problems. You can do it for Apps, but not the Apps and their data. That sometimes causes problems too.
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dust. said:
Eclipse! New version will be coming out soon. Blurless and simply wonderful
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Eclipse is super clean and super fast.
Well there's very few things that im worried about losing but my calender (pure grid calender) is one that I don't wanna lose.....I emailed the dev and asked if there was a way to back it up so im waiting for an email back on that.....I have my apps backed up via titanium backup free and sticky notes I can just write down or something.....I ran minimal x immediately when it came out so I have some experience with Rom's but no where near calling myself a pro.....so with eclipse will I flash it the same way as I did with MinX?
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I use Pure Grid Calendar... have for over a year.. across the D1 and the X2 I have flashed my phone so many times I couldnt even begin to make up a number.... NEVER.. lost my calendar info. Its synched into google. Auto restores when you go thru setup after flashing the ROM
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Don't listen to him. Never restore settings. This causes a lot of problems. You can do it for Apps, but not the Apps and their data. That sometimes causes problems too.
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Bah, Hog wash.
xkape said:
I use Pure Grid Calendar... have for over a year.. across the D1 and the X2 I have flashed my phone so many times I couldnt even begin to make up a number.... NEVER.. lost my calendar info. Its synched into google. Auto restores when you go thru setup after flashing the ROM
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Is that a setting in pure grid or something?
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no, pure grid, if you will remember, asks you on setup which calendar you want to use. By default, its set to the google one. SO, you set your phone up and the calendar syncs.. then you install pure grid again and it grabs the already synched google calendar.. thats all google.
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Bah, Hog wash.
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I agree. I 've been backing up my apps and their data with Titanium Backup since I started flashing roms and have had no problems...
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@xkape - yeah I haven't had to reinstall it in so long I just forgot I guess.....thanks tho
@dust - I haven't had any problems with TB so ill continue to use it.....might use nandroid as well just as a safeguard and cuz I've heard a lot about it
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dust. said:
I agree. I 've been backing up my apps and their data with Titanium Backup since I started flashing roms and have had no problems...
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Apps and data across updates to these rom has always been fine. Going across versions (froyo/gb etc) has been known to causes issues, as well as settings. The settings issue is widely accepted as a way to introduce bugs. You'd know this if you'd been flashing roms for longer than a few weeks.
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I don't want to start a whole thing here...yes titanium is a great program but i have run into problems with it not restoring properly and causing some problems. I always prefer to just do a fresh install if im backed into a corner, but Titanium works great but i ran into some issues with it not restoring settings/accounts causing FC and ghost email accounts that could not be removed. Maybe its just me i used it a couple of times and it worked but it just didn't seem like a clean restore for some reason. Again just giving opinion here not trying to start anything...**Opinion Only**
whiplash473 said:
@xkape - yeah I haven't had to reinstall it in so long I just forgot I guess.....thanks tho
@dust - I haven't had any problems with TB so ill continue to use it.....might use nandroid as well just as a safeguard and cuz I've heard a lot about it
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Nandroid is seriously best thing u could EVER do before flashing or at any point for that matter. If there is ever a point where u say damn I really like how my phone is righteous now. Wish I could get back here if something ever messes up. Then just go into recovery using system recovery app and make ur nandroid. I keep em on external sd card cuz there's more space for plenty of em. And then I use root explorer and rename or add on something to the name of the backup so I don't forget which one it is when im restoring it. When u male a nandroid it automatically puts the date and time of creation as the file name.
Trust me. Nandroid will save your butt on occasion if u flash ANYTHING. Its awesome to just press restore and presto your right back where u were.
Not a TB fan here... just a personal preferences...
Best way I've found to get back up quickly is... having the rom auto download your apps and when its done, go into recovery and do an advanced restore. Then choose data only. That's assuming you made a backup of course.
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Would it be too much to ask for someone to walk me thru flashing this?
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Check the stickies.. theres instructions for flashing stuff... also, just so you know, the Eclipse ROM is not one of the ROMs that auto downloads your apps. You will need to do that yourself then do the data resotre.. if you are going that route. If you are using TB, you can restore it all but.. I dont use it so I have no clue how to do that.
Hey guys. Recently I've started having a problem during CWM backups. Up until recently a backup to internal SD would take 4-5 min. However, now the backups keep freezing about 2 minutes in on some cryptic file "-118283183281."
This happens every time and I'm no longer able to make backups. It happens regardless of whether I'm backing up to the internal or external SD. Any ideas?
Are you on ShoStock 2.2? Nandroid backups don't work yet.
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aanidaani said:
Hey guys. Recently I've started having a problem during CWM backups. Up until recently a backup to internal SD would take 4-5 min. However, now the backups keep freezing about 2 minutes in on some cryptic file "-118283183281."
This happens every time and I'm no longer able to make backups. It happens regardless of whether I'm backing up to the internal or external SD. Any ideas?
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Try changing to a different kernel. I had the problem with SHOstock2 with the cherrypicker kernel switched to DAFUQ and no more nandroid problems.
Yeah, I am running Shostock 2.2. Didn't know about the nandroid problem. Thanks!
bad file?
I was thinking maybe it was a bad file.
I don't know if you got today's update (2.2.2) but I just tried to Nandroid backup and it apparently works now. That's with the Cherry Picker kernel. FWIW.
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If we are all here comfortable voiding our warranties and modifying our phones, let's try being just as bold when fixing issues like this. Remember the simplest answer is sometimes and usually the best. Be pioneers.
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Phalanx7621 said:
...... Remember the simplest answer is sometimes and usually the best. Be pioneers.
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See Occams Razor...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
After a couple months lurking, I finally took the plunge an rooted and installed a custom ROM.
I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
with a little help from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483113
for basic knowledge/reference.
with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
for my ROM.
Just wanted to give gordec & appdroid my thanks for collecting all the nesessary info in one (or two) places for us noobs, and Flapjaxxx for providing such an awesome ROM!
Congradulations for taking your time and doing it right. Now you can never go back!
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+1 Welcome to the custom world...you'll never look at your device the same way again. Wait till you see a stock device in the wild, lol.
Flashing is kinda like a getting a Tattoo once you start you always want another one LOL
Yeah, now that you've started, every time you see a friend's stock phone you'll get irritated and want to do stuff.
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welchertc said:
Yeah, now that you've started, every time you see a friend's stock phone you'll get irritated and want to do stuff.
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hahaha guilty on that one
but
Congrats to OP
Your adventures to be come a flashaholic have just begun!!
There is no rehab for this kind of addiction but its an awesome condition to have!!
lol
have fun thank the devs and enjoy a new side of life for your phone
Fyi don't do work on friends phones. If they want to flash a rom you can teach em but make it their responsibility, not yours.
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Fyi don't do work on friends phones. If they want to flash a from you can teach em but make it their responsibility, not yours.
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Totally agree, I was just saying how I always want to mess with other phones.
My biggest pet peeve is when I see advanced task killer on their home screens. Haha. I usually just delete it without telling them.
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CaptHatch said:
After a couple months lurking, I finally took the plunge an rooted and installed a custom ROM.
I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
with a little help from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483113
for basic knowledge/reference.
with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
for my ROM.
Just wanted to give gordec & appdroid my thanks for collecting all the nesessary info in one (or two) places for us noobs, and Flapjaxxx for providing such an awesome ROM!
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Flashing a ROM is like having sex.
The first time it's scary and you're apprehensive, there are so many positions (tools) and objectives (methods), and so much you want to get right...and then you realize, hey, it's all about what feels natural (once you get through the process, everything makes sense)...or unnatural...in a good way.
Then, your 2nd and third time are nearly as fun as the first, and after a while, it become second nature.
It's also like sex in another way...because if you don't use protection (a nandroid & titanium backup) your bound to have an "accident" (lose your data, or worse, brick your phone) and end up with a mini-you, or some tropical disease.
Epic analogy.
+10 analogy!
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So, question
I never really found a good resource for explaining this, so to test some assumptions:
I made a nandroid backup of my rooted gingerbread. If I restore from backup (not that I intend to) all will magically go back to that state, right? But nandroid just backs up the system, apps would need to be put back. Settings for apps fixed, etc.
But titanium backup does all your apps and setting, so they best work in concert. ie: restore your nandroid, restore your Ti backup, everything is the the same.
And a minor question: Can you rename backup files without screwing stuff up? Or at least their containing folder? Can I name it "Rooted Stock 6_14"?
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I never really found a good resource for explaining this, so to test some assumptions:
I made a nandroid backup of my rooted gingerbread. If I restore from backup (not that I intend to) all will magically go back to that state, right? But nandroid just backs up the system, apps would need to be put back. Settings for apps fixed, etc.
But titanium backup does all your apps and setting, so they best work in concert. ie: restore your nandroid, restore your Ti backup, everything is the the same.
And a minor question: Can you rename backup files without screwing stuff up? Or at least their containing folder? Can I name it "Rooted Stock 6_14"?
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nandroid backups DO include your apps, settings, and data at the time of the backup, so there is no need to restore anything separately or fix the settings -- unless the app or settings were added or changed AFTER you made the backup, of course
And yes, you can rename CWM backups.
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I never really found a good resource for explaining this, so to test some assumptions:
I made a nandroid backup of my rooted gingerbread. If I restore from backup (not that I intend to) all will magically go back to that state, right? But nandroid just backs up the system, apps would need to be put back. Settings for apps fixed, etc.
But titanium backup does all your apps and setting, so they best work in concert. ie: restore your nandroid, restore your Ti backup, everything is the the same.
And a minor question: Can you rename backup files without screwing stuff up? Or at least their containing folder? Can I name it "Rooted Stock 6_14"?
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Assuming your .zip flashed files didn't contain a boot loader, the Nandroid is just about as good as it gets.
I've renamed folders, but not the file itself. I normally do this after each backup because my mind goes full retard after looking at the auto generated Nandroid naming schemes.
Changing nandroid name will result in md5 checksum error.
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HerbieVerstinks said:
Changing nandroid name will result in md5 checksum error.
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Ive never thought about that! Guess it would. Glad I just happen to be reading this thread and learn something that i wouldnt have ever thought of. Theres no telling how much time you just saved me in the future lol. thanks!