If I walk into a VW store tomorrow (8/29/13) and buy a Note II.... can it be rooted and ROM'd on the latest software version?
Yes.
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it can be rooted. you can get a touchwiz rom only up to 4.1.2. maybe an aosp rom with 4.3
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it can be rooted. you can get a touchwiz rom only up to 4.1.2. maybe an aosp rom with 4.3
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So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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Yes. All of the methods are in the original development section.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
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Well, I have a few thoughts on it.
First off, you can't go wrong with this phone. I know we're all kind of still stuck in that mindset that we need the newest device available, but it just doesn't matter as much as it did two years ago. We reached that plateau where the computational hardware is more than powerful enough to run a perfectly smooth experience throughout the OS. Even with the new CPU architecture (A15 vs the A9 in this phone) in phones like the SGS4, the One, the GN3, etc. there's not much of a point in the extra power. When we went from A7 to A9 then single to dual core, it was a big deal. We needed the absolute best hardware to obtain the best experience we could. We've simply past that point.
With that said, 720p vs 1080p, to me at least, also means less than 720p vs WVGA. Even at 5.5" inches, it's really freakin' hard to see the difference. Also, if you have vision issues, you realize that things will be smaller in 1080p vs 720p? Things are sharper because they can fit more stuff in the same screen, and produce the same images at a smaller rate. DON'T "upgrade" to 1080p if that's an issue for you.
The biggest selling point for us, of course, is that the GN2 is the only one with an unlocked bootloader right now. There's hope that the SGS4 will have safestrap (maybe even kexec support too) soon, and while safestrap's great, it's not an unlocked bootloader. It's a big deal, it's getting harder to unlock them with every new generation of phones. Before you go with this though, really take the time to hold it in your hand there. If you're used to using your phone with one hand, it will be a lot harder. People actually laugh at how big my hands are, but I can only barely reach every part of this screen with my thumb.
The One has a beautiful design, screen, etc. but I personally can't give up a removable battery and external sd support. I have barely plugged this phone in because I swap batteries and use an external charger. Furthermore, I never worry about storage because of the sd. I can't give those up.
The Note 3 will probably be the same size as this device with a smaller bezel. It will probably be even thinner too, if the SGS3 to 4 is any precedent. It will be my first choice as an upgrade, but I'm in no rush. I'll wait until I can get a custom ROM/kernel on it so there's established & active development for it. I would hate to be stuck in the situation SGS4 users are in now. Even MDK users, the ones who were able to get their phone before the firmware update, barely have development options because there's such a small user base.
The new Nexus I can't really comment on, there's no substantial information available for it, which at least means it won't be available any time soon. The Nexus 4 and GNex were horribly-kept secrets, so the new one won't be any different.
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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I think I might just go with Amazon.... it's only 99 on there now. Going in today just to test the Moto X at VZW... though I know I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disappointed.
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are you guys planning on getting the ATT S2 come october 2nd even though the nexus prime is supposedly close? or is the S2 just not worth it at this point? no bashing (im actually contemplating on buying one myself).
I will be at the store when it opens on Oct 2. Even though we're getting it late it will still be a top 5 phone for the next year.
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I'm waiting for the Galaxy Note.
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I'm waiting for the Galaxy Note.
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The Note looks incredible, but not sure how I'd carry that around...
will wait for Note how big it is in real, and than decide. AT&T is little bit too late for me to be excited because I am using int. version since early June.
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Posted on another forum but was curious regarding XDA members.
are you guys planning on getting the ATT S2 come october 2nd even though the nexus prime is supposedly close? or is the S2 just not worth it at this point? no bashing (im actually contemplating on buying one myself).
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I plan on getting one. Even though it's already a few months old, I feel like it's one of the most "future proof" of current phones on the market right now.
Things like Exynos CPU/GPU, 1 GB ram, NFC, effectively maximum speed HSPA+... My Captivate runs quite comfortable at 1.3 GHz w/ Cyanogenmod and still beats the pants off of any stock Android device currently available in the States. That's 2+ versions of Android ahead of what it launched with (2.1 Eclair), and a 30% overclock of what the stock chip came with. By similar logic, the GS2 should last through Ice Cream Sandwich and beyond...
The Note looks awesome but if I wait for it then something better will be right around the corner, besides, been sitting on this upgrade since July
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im just waiting to see how much the unlocked versión is gonna cost
I'd guess around 600 bones.
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I don't get why people think Note is God like phone or something. By the time it comes out, the specs will be mediocre at best.
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I thought the Note wasn't an actual phone. But meant to be something in between a phone and a tablet. I get why it's awesome. The display resolution.
But I'll be picking up the AT&T SGSII when it comes out. Can always sell it later when something much better is released.
I will be getting it on or close as possible to Oct. 2nd I have waited this long and learned my lesson. I WON'T be waiting for the next best phone from attention after this one, I will fork out the cash for an unbranded phone. Maybe the prime or SGS3 IN the near future
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I'll be getting it on launch day for sure. I was debating on waiting for the Nexus announcement but the likelihood of at&t seeing a nexus device near launch is slim to none. I know there have been hints dropped about it launching as both cdma and gsm but there is no concrete evidence. So just going by history it will likely be a few months before at&t sees the prime.
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Posted on another forum but was curious regarding XDA members.
are you guys planning on getting the ATT S2 come october 2nd even though the nexus prime is supposedly close? or is the S2 just not worth it at this point? no bashing (im actually contemplating on buying one myself).
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Nexus Prime/iPhone 5 for me atm... but theres still a 10% chance that seeing the Att Attain in person could wow me into buying it but I highly doubt it. Don't like Att/Samsung giving Americans the middle finger by taking 6 months to bring it to the U.S.
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I don't get why people think Note is God like phone or something. By the time it comes out, the specs will be mediocre at best.
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Have you actually seen the specs? The note is going to be the best phone in the world bar none. What realistic specs could another phone have that would make the Galaxy Note look mediocre? I can't think of any realistic ones...
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Have you actually seen the specs? The note is going to be the best phone in the world bar none. What realistic specs could another phone have that would make the Galaxy Note look mediocre? I can't think of any realistic ones...
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Smaller screens and lack of a stylus.
All personal preference though.
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Smaller screens and lack of a stylus.
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You suck!
LoL gotta admit had me laughing hard though
It's either buy this on release date or wait for the Nexus Prime or HTC Holiday/Raider 4G for me. I've been phoneless since March so I'm not sure that I want to wait much longer for such a trivial upgrade (SGSII -> Prime/Holiday).
What do you guys think?
Is there any trick or loopholes in att contract that we can exploit to get an early upgrade? Or is there any way like may be paying something around 100$ to get an early upgrade?
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I don't get why people think Note is God like phone or something. By the time it comes out, the specs will be mediocre at best.
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Because it has potential, higher resolution is a big thing which is the only thing missing from sgs2.
Also 5.3 sounds big, but you never know it may be the sweet spot between a phone and tablet. It is definitely going to replace both my phone and tablet.
And then there is the stylus which is kind of cool to have and might come handy in lots of places.
The only thing which is disappointing is the software. I would have liked to see ICS, but they are shipping with ginger bread.
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Hey Guys,
Im looking to upgrade and was wondering your thoughts and such. Currently i have the x2 running cm10 a2 and as much as i like it it is laggy and i get a decent amount of FC. I went to Verizon today and the only phone they have on display is the GS3 and Razr MAxx HD.
What im wondering are a few things.
1. Should i even stay with verizon. Right now i have unlimited data but hear when i upgrade i wont get that anymore. Should i go to sprint?
2. I was looking into the Note 2, GS3, Razr MAxx HD or the upcoming HTC DNA (J butterfly)
3. Price is important and i kow with the moto i can get a 100 bucks towards the Razr. If i dont do that i can sell it on CL
4. I like to ROM and flash and know the GS3 has been around a while which is good and and bad.. Lots of development but will be outdated as the note and dna are coming and also now that the HD is here.
5. If i dont get a new one would getting something like a Galaxy nexus s be a step up or stupid.
Kinda looking for your thoughts
My thinking on each.
gs3 is a good size and i see there is development
Will the note 2 be to big and gawdy looking?
the Maxx HD display is awesome but i want something a bit bigger than my x2 so will i be happy w the HD
The DNA doesnt even have any reviews or price so thats hard to compare
i didnt mind the plastic of the gs3 but i like motos heavier sturdier feel.
Also i want a removable bat and storage for an SD card.
YOur thoughts.. did i miss anything
I have been thinking of upgrading for some time. As soon as I get some extra money to do so. I have made the decision to upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus. I dont know how anyone can say thats not an upgrade from the Droid X2. Its a fully open device with a lot of dev support. Most importantly...Googles support. Until it cant support the updates Google pushes out, it will get all future updates. Even after then, devs will probably be pushing unofficial updates to it. Price-wise, its cheaper than the Galaxy S3. At least where I'm looking (ebay). Even with a used phone under 200 bucks, it will still be an upgrade from the Droid X2. Plus, it wont mess with your contract. Thats how I am thinking anyway.
Only downside, I dont think the Galaxy Nexus has SD card support. But a lot of newer devices dont.
There's no external card support for the Gnex. But my .02, you can't go wrong with a Nexus. Verizon has some deal now to there you can get one for like $50 with a 2 year deal.
But, keep your unlimited and buy a phone outright. That's the way to go.
i like the nexus. good looking but is it much if any bigger than the x2. the biggest thing i want is speed. Speed and no lag is the most key for me. No sd is kinda a con but i can save stuff on google drive so thats a plus.
Is this the nexus you guys are stating.
I think the x2 has a 4.3 screen vs the nexus 4 inch which is also another con. And i gig processor, doesnt the x2 have that. Spec wise its seems a lateral move or am i not looking at it right?
maybe i was looking at the wrong one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I515MSAVZW
this one is 4.65 inch and 1.2g dual core is this the one.
Should this be better than the x2 or just plain kill it?
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maybe i was looking at the wrong one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I515MSAVZW
this one is 4.65 inch and 1.2g dual core is this the one.
Should this be better than the x2 or just plain kill it?
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Yes, thats the Galaxy Nexus. That phone can do so much more than the Droid X2 and is better in almost every way. Go to youtube and watch some reviews on it. Watch reviews on all those phones you mentioned. Thats usually how I decide on a phone. Thats probably the cheapest one out of all the ones you mentioned but its definitely better than most of them too.
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Yes, thats the Galaxy Nexus. That phone can do so much more than the Droid X2 and is better in almost every way. Go to youtube and watch some reviews on it. Watch reviews on all those phones you mentioned. Thats usually how I decide on a phone. Thats probably the cheapest one out of all the ones you mentioned but its definitely better than most of them too.
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He's right. Another thing too: not only is it fast and has a really nice screen, its customizeable to the hills. Unlocked bootloader and kernel...need I say more?
One idea is just going to the store and playing with the phones on display. Tell the sales people to give you a breather and have at it. See how smooth the graphics are, how snappy the device is and how clear the displays are. Look at them all. Don't focus on the Nexus. When your done, you'll see what we are talking about
Also, the support for this device is not going to die anytime soon...for a while at that matter. I personally wouldn't go Moto if I had the opportunity. So many false promises...blah
ok i like the nexus. About the same size as the gs3 which i like the size. one other thing i was curious on the nexus. With the x2 and the cm10 im running like i said it is laggy and sometimes downright a pit. Does the nexus handle roms well and flow as smooth as stock as im seeing in the videos. Stock the nexus seems to fly but i just hope it still flies with custom roms
Just my 2 cents.... If you're getting a nexus I would buy used so you save your upgrade and keep unlimited data. I have a s3 and absolutely love it but I think the nexus is fantastic compared to the x2. Cm10 should work flawlessly on the nexus.... It's got twice the ram of the x2. A friend of mine has the nexus and has no complaints.
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You can't really compare them like that. That's like comparing a Kia to a Cadillac.....
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ok i like the nexus. About the same size as the gs3 which i like the size. one other thing i was curious on the nexus. With the x2 and the cm10 im running like i said it is laggy and sometimes downright a pit. Does the nexus handle roms well and flow as smooth as stock as im seeing in the videos. Stock the nexus seems to fly but i just hope it still flies with custom roms
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The only reason the Droid X2 runs ICS and Jelly Bean a little crappy is because its locked down by Motorola. If we were able to overclock it and change out the kernels, it would run just as well. The Galaxy Nexus runs Jelly Bean as stock so any ROM based off that will run just as good. We are running Jelly Bean on a Gingerbread Kernel. Thats why it doesnt run well on the Droid X2.
ok i had read that before now i understand better. If i get the nexus off ebay or CL, and say something happens to it physically. Like i drop it or whatever and the screen doesnt work or something, am i able to go thru verizon or am i basically screwed...?
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ok i had read that before now i understand better. If i get the nexus off ebay or CL, and say something happens to it physically. Like i drop it or whatever and the screen doesnt work or something, am i able to go thru verizon or am i basically screwed...?
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I dont think anything you do to a phone you by outside of Verizon is covered. Just get a hardcore case if you are worried about it.
If you buy it out right, then you are on your own. Buy yourself a good protective case like an Otterbox or Hyperion, etc and you'll be fine. I've dropped mine off the roof of my truck more than twice and its still kick in'. That's about 10' down each time.
One thing you guys didn't answer...would you stay w Verizon or jump to sprint. If yes or no what would your reasons be
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One thing you guys didn't answer...would you stay w Verizon or jump to sprint. If yes or no what would your reasons be
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I would stay with Verizon unless you have a money problem. From what I've heard Sprints 3g speeds are like that of a turtles. Don't know about 4g but how van it be much better?
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One thing you guys didn't answer...would you stay w Verizon or jump to sprint. If yes or no what would your reasons be
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Sprint here totally sucks. I work with a guy who can't even email himself a picture....data speeds are so slow it times out. There's a guy in the Verizon Galaxy S3 development section who went to the Note 2 on Sprint...lasted 2 weeks, he couldn't take the data speeds. I personally would never switch to Sprint, but every area is different.
I don't know about sprint, but do not go to AT&T either. I came from them and they suck bad. Verizon may be more expensive but I found that you get what you pay for. Verizon has great service.
The Verizon note 2 is right around the corner now, and remember Verizon is on schedule to have the entire 3g footprint covered in 4g by the coming summer, where i am in rural mn no other company can get me even 50kbps speed while Verizon says i can do 5megs per sec while walking through fields.... By summer yhat is, but even still i can pull 8x the competitions data... Its simply the strongest network there is and thats a huge part of being mobile... Although Im sure there are people who never leave major population centers where all networks fly
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I was looking to see how much data I used a month. I'm at an average of 1.1 g. So going w a new contract at 2g would drop my bill 20 dollars. If I go to 4 g it would save 10 dollars. I use probably 70% WiFi and 30 3g. I was thinking the galaxy nexus but I want something no less a few months old given tech changes every month. So my thoughts... the nexus is almost a yr old, the s3 will be 9 months old soon. I can't spend 3 bills but by my update eligibility in 1/16/13 the note 2 should b 200 and there will be the HTC DNA and maybe, ....maybe the s4 but I've read that is summertime and I can't wait that long. So I am back at sq one trying to figure which one I like better. I have til January I guess to figure it out. I def want something that will have a lot of dev support w roms and such
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OK, so i was thinking about either getting this phone or waiting to see what shows up at CES.
I know CES is tomorrow so i was wondering if a phone that has better specs comes out.
If You guys can recommend a phone or even give a suggestion i would greatly appreciate it.
I'm used to the Motorola atrix 2 if that helps
I need it to be AT&T and be running at least ICS but preferably JB
I have to wait til March for an upgrade
Thanks
Oh and I bet you cant hit that THANKS button at the bottom left of this post
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The LGOG has ICS but runs like JB. Imagine the power it'll have when it gets JB.
The way mobile technology has been speeding along, by March, something with better specs will definitely be out/announced. Then you'll just have a short wait till you can get your hands on it. Today, I would absolutely recommend this phone. Best specs out there but, cmon, by March you probably need to be looking ahead.
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There will always a better phone around the corner. At some point you have jump in.
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In all honesty... I would wait to take a look at what the Galaxy S4 will bring since you have to wait until March anyway.
Galaxy S4 will have a huge selection of accessories and ROMs
However,
I have chosen the LGOG for the following reasons:
1. My upgrade was close to its release.
2. I paid $100 for a phone-beast.
3. It is the first quad-core phone with LTE on AT&T.
4. The display is not 5 inches or more.
5. It is basically a nicer Nexus 4. (I have learned that hardware as close to the current Nexus device as possible is a very safe bet)
6. The last phone that I though was this sexy was a Nexus One. This thing is gorgeous.
thanks guys
Thank you to all who replied
I think all the wow factor phones are getting held up for mobile world congress next month. All I really saw so far that was interesting was the new xperia ZL or whatever it was, but given sony's track record there will be an updated version by march.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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That's the way of the gadget world. As soon as you buy the latest and greatest, it's already obsolete.
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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I can't wait. :B
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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This makes me feel better... slightly.
I won't ever consider a Sony phone, especially on AT&T, given that their phones come with locked bootloaders that can't be unlocked. International versions are easily unlocked. By Sony. Just not the US versions. I should know, I had a Sony Xperia Play phone for a while and I recently returned an Xperia TL.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
As long as you're waiting, see what the S4 has to offer. Samsung's have custom ROM's about 7 hours after the first go on sale. Also, by then, the development on this phone should really be kicking into high gear (knock on wood). Also, you might catch wind of the LGOG2 then.
However, at some point there is about only so much power you're going to need in a handset that everything else becomes overkill. These phones are almost as powerful/fast as a mid-level laptop, but you don't want to type out a long word doc on them or edit an excel file. Finally, this will probably cost a coke and a smile by then compared to the S4 or LGOG2.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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Haha! Now in the N4 forums.
johnbyebye said:
FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the xperia phones... haven't looked that one up yet though.
I would never judge a phone by it's manufacturer.
Look at Motorola. We went from the original Verizon Droid to the piece of sh**t Backflip on AT&T. Then we have the Atrix 4g, which in my experience had nice specs, but overall was a terrible quality phone.
HTC use to be the kind of Android phones, and now they have dropped off. (Look at their latest earnings).
Also do not forget the earliest Android offering by Samsung that I can remember - Samsung Moment for Sprint. That thing was all kids of ugly and slow.
I used to work for an eBay reseller, and played with 100 - 150 phones per day. Manufacturer is really irrelevant. You have to look at the unit as in individual.
I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.
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I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.
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Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
mikeone33 said:
Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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I paid full price for my Galaxy Nexus and my Note 2.
mikeone33 said:
Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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Yes, it was dumb, but at least I got my money back.
miketoasty said:
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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I do! :good:
I got the S4 on release and I like it. Just put my SIM in my Note 2 today for the first time since I got the S4 and it really does perform. The specs are higher on the S4 but I can't tell the difference. My only issue with the Note is it's size, which was the reason I bought it. I just can't do some things one handed, things I didn't think would matter. But, if size hadn't been an issue, this guy would still be my dd. Also, since I bought the S4 at release, it's unlocked and running PACman 4.3 and running it well. If I couldn't run AOSP, I wouldn't want it either.
I'm grandfathered in on unlimited data and buy all my devices unsubsidized.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
miketoasty said:
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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all day everyday and twice on sunday :good:
I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.
BrettXNA said:
I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.
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A bigger battery will do that for you.
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I switched to an S4 on two separate occasions. Each time I came back to the Note 2 for the screen size.
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I sold my note 2 in craigslist for $450, found a brand new galaxy s4 for $499. $49 to upgrade meh.
Even with a gs4 rooted with cm10, it couldn't hold a candle to my note. Sure, the screen was brighter and sharper, but the build quality on the gs4 is horrible.
Needless to say I quickly sold the gs4 on swappa for $550. Picked up another note 2 off craigslist for $375.
The only thing that can drag me away from my note 2 is a note 3. I just hope the note 3 build quality is better than the gs4.
Seems like Samsung's build quality is actually regressing with each new device
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I'm hooked on the SPEN, can't imagine getting another phone unless it has it.
I got rid of my GS4 yesterday and will be waiting for the GN3 announcement in 13 days. Looking forward to a hopefully quick launch. Rumors now say S800 variant is all that will be launching first since the Exynos 5420 is having issues (go figure) so maybe Verizon will launch it right away.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I love the Notes size, other phones seem so small when I mess with apps on em now.
after having the note 2, not really sure what my next phone will be. Tired of dropped calls in my house where HTC phones never had problems. Might try the femtocel route, but verizon wants me to pay for it. Moto droid ultra maxx is interesting, esp since I have plex working perfectly now so I don't need 64gb of media on my phone.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I'd rather go for hardware quality than superficial looks of a device. Looks don't control the performance/quality.
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not saying i wont possibly break down and buy it at some point BUT..
1. with Jasmine Rom 2.4.1 i have all the software features and will continue to get more faster
2. Note 4 is bigger and heavier and was not expecting that for the same size battery and screen
3. i will not notice the processor bump as my N3 doesnt slack now
4. Finer print scanner - i have zero need for such a thing
5 Camera - this was the only feature that made me want it but i have the camera from a software prospective already and wasnt enough to make me jump
i am in NO WAY DISSING the Note 4 and if i werent on a custom Note 3 i would jump in a second. i just cant get myself to spend the money on it at this time and possibly never.
i have a Macbook that runs around $1,300 and when they release a new one with a better front camera and small processor bump i am not going to spend $1,300 again for such a small change.
sad day as i was really looking forward to it but ooh well
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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jayochs said:
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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He had to prove a point.
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jayochs said:
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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+1
Also, the N4 is a big upgrade. I bet you were drooling over the Retina screens of the more recent Macbooks when they were released.
Absolutely amazing camera (front and back), snapdragon 805, QHD screen, more memory... Leaves the N3 in the dust!
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jayochs said:
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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mchief298 said:
He had to prove a point.
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i wasnt trying to cause an argument or troll. i have a long history here with ZERO trolling of any kind and always try to help others.
i was simply posting in the Note 4 section about the Note 4 and what happened to me today and getting feedback from others. i cant be the only one in this situation of really wanting it but not seeing the $$$ value in coming from Note 3. as i said i would jump in a second coming from anything else like a S4 or Note 2.
Not to diss you in any shapr or form but...why didn't you just post this in the Note 3 forum? When I saw the title I thought was a mistype lol.
Thanks for making your point! I shall go enjoy my Note 4 now
P.S. I do see what you are saying, my friend is in the same boat. If I had the Note 3 I wouldn't jump either unless rom development simplied died with in the next 6 months
It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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i should have added that if it had Lollipop installed i would have probably bought it while i was there. i know its coming but i also know that i would be frustrated waiting while HTC and Motorola get their Lollipops on 1+ year old devices before i would see it on my N4 much like my N3.
maybe i shouldnt have posted this thread here and so forgive me anyone that i have upset but this was a day just like the release day of the S4 and N3 where i was excited and was there to be one of the first and i couldnt (at this time) spend the cash while holding my N3.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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good points and why i stated "not at this time" with my purchase because likely in the future when i get bored and there is root and exciting things happening with the N4 i may jump to it.
i cant get too excited for N6 at all simply because i dont feel being Vanilla it will have those phablet software features i want to make it more than a big phone. we shall see though in that one.
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He had to prove a point.
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He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
mngdew said:
He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
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hahaha i guess my title was misleading as i have had N3 since release date and so i just left with what i walked in with. i am sure something will happen to make me switch at some point
with the resale value of the note 3 I dont see why not if you have the upgrade available and are not in the situation of losing unlimited.
I personally love the fingerprint scanner, i thought at first it would be a gay gimmick thing and not work how I use them on laptops but its everything I wanted. I use a complex pattern normally to unlock my phone so being able to easily do the fingerprint works wonders for me. I also tend to like new ish and be with the curve (because you can never be ahead in the existing electronics industry)
just my . 02
froggystyle66 said:
So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Ah. Haven't really tried game emulators. I really only play cross me color. Thanks for the info!
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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i am in the opposite court and understand what you are saying for your needs. i remember when i use to buy new laptops every year because they just kept getting faster and i could feel the difference with each new purchase. that changed a few years ago when suddenly every upper level machine met my needs and the new ones although faster on specs wouldnt allow me to see anything new and exciting since i wouldnt be pushing them to see it.
phones like N3 have in that perspective meet my needs already and now i look for new pieces of tech like the stylus the Note series has or its IR blaster, great phablet specific features, and interaction with the rest of my Samsung electronics.
i dont know what will make me jump to a new phone these days because they havent announced what it is yet. the camera i know is better and would be nice but i just didnt see a "need" today.
i appreciate the respectful replies to this thread and as mentioned above i could sure be convinced to buy it sooner than later.
thanks
As long as your happy, all is good.
People who bashed the OP need to chill out. Many come to this particular forum to help them make a decision about buying the phone or not. This thread offers a diff perspective. It belongs here.