I'm back from a GS4 - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.

BoostinBen said:
I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.
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Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.

As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.

mikeone33 said:
Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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I paid full price for my Galaxy Nexus and my Note 2.

mikeone33 said:
Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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Yes, it was dumb, but at least I got my money back.

miketoasty said:
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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I do! :good:

I got the S4 on release and I like it. Just put my SIM in my Note 2 today for the first time since I got the S4 and it really does perform. The specs are higher on the S4 but I can't tell the difference. My only issue with the Note is it's size, which was the reason I bought it. I just can't do some things one handed, things I didn't think would matter. But, if size hadn't been an issue, this guy would still be my dd. Also, since I bought the S4 at release, it's unlocked and running PACman 4.3 and running it well. If I couldn't run AOSP, I wouldn't want it either.
I'm grandfathered in on unlimited data and buy all my devices unsubsidized.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.

miketoasty said:
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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all day everyday and twice on sunday :good:

I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.

BrettXNA said:
I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.
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A bigger battery will do that for you.
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I switched to an S4 on two separate occasions. Each time I came back to the Note 2 for the screen size.
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I sold my note 2 in craigslist for $450, found a brand new galaxy s4 for $499. $49 to upgrade meh.
Even with a gs4 rooted with cm10, it couldn't hold a candle to my note. Sure, the screen was brighter and sharper, but the build quality on the gs4 is horrible.
Needless to say I quickly sold the gs4 on swappa for $550. Picked up another note 2 off craigslist for $375.
The only thing that can drag me away from my note 2 is a note 3. I just hope the note 3 build quality is better than the gs4.
Seems like Samsung's build quality is actually regressing with each new device
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I'm hooked on the SPEN, can't imagine getting another phone unless it has it.

I got rid of my GS4 yesterday and will be waiting for the GN3 announcement in 13 days. Looking forward to a hopefully quick launch. Rumors now say S800 variant is all that will be launching first since the Exynos 5420 is having issues (go figure) so maybe Verizon will launch it right away.

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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I love the Notes size, other phones seem so small when I mess with apps on em now.

after having the note 2, not really sure what my next phone will be. Tired of dropped calls in my house where HTC phones never had problems. Might try the femtocel route, but verizon wants me to pay for it. Moto droid ultra maxx is interesting, esp since I have plex working perfectly now so I don't need 64gb of media on my phone.

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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I'd rather go for hardware quality than superficial looks of a device. Looks don't control the performance/quality.
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Ditch s3 for the n2?!

In due for an upgrade in April. I'm either sticking with my s3 (I love this phone. Ditched the iPhone 5 after only 6 days). OR I'm snagging the n2. Thoughts?!
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Go for the n2! This is the best phone ever
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Just depends, do you want the larger screen and the spen? The Note II is just a larger s3
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Both great phones. I really think it's more of a size question than anything. And that's just personal preference. My coworker has the Note 2. Great looking device, but i couldn't deal with it as a phone. Even he got tired of clumsily getting it out of his pocket to answer a call, not to mention flipping open the Flip Cover. Now he wears a blue tooth earpiece all the time. Again, that's personal preference. I personally couldn't stand having a blue tooth earpiece in constantly.
Spec to spec, the Note 2 is a nice leap forward, if and only if you see the significant size increase as a plus.
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Upgrades in April? Hell no do NOT get the Note 2. This phone missed one vital thing and I don't care because this phone > Thunderbolt but man this thing should have had an Exynos 5 processor instead of a 4.
Since your upgrade isn't up for a few months I say definitely do not get a Note 2. The jump in performance on the Exynos 5 will be worth the wait. I'm sure the Note 3 will have that chip in it and man is it going to make all of us Note 2 owners jealous. The S3 is a fine phone, no reason to turn it in for the Note 2. None whatsoever.
Thanks all for your opinions. Bigger screen is def worth it for me.
Another question on my mind: when do you think we can expect the s4/n2?
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I would say stick with the s3 as it is still a great phone, if you are unsure about something then that most likely means that it doesnt have that "wow" factor. Once you find a found your interested in, you wouldnt need to ask anyone!
But if you are waiting for the next big thing, you will always be waiting as technology is always revolving. When something new and great comes out, it will ALWAYS be inferior at one point.
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question will be most likely be ditch S3 for s4 or n2 by march.
Honestly, I wouldn't waste an upgrade from an S3 to a GN2. If I were you I would buy the GN2 and try to sell the S3 to try to cover some of the cost. Otherwise wait until April and see what's out or coming out.
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eikast said:
Honestly, I wouldn't waste an upgrade from an S3 to a GN2. If I were you I would buy the GN2 and try to sell the S3 to try to cover some of the cost. Otherwise wait until April and see what's out or coming out.
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Agreed. Then when the S4 or even of the Moto X gets leaked more, you'll still have an upgrade for a discounted price versus 7-800.
If your S3 is in good condition you'll get over 300for it.
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I had the s3 right before this. I loved that phone. I finally had it to the right ROM and everything the perfect way. Had it running beautifully and then I heard about the Note 2. I immediately was drawn to the screen size. For me that was reason enough to get it. And the specs are great on it. My personal opinion I would get it.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
techgov8 said:
I had the s3 right before this. I loved that phone. I finally had it to the right ROM and everything the perfect way. Had it running beautifully and then I heard about the Note 2. I immediately was drawn to the screen size. For me that was reason enough to get it. And the specs are great on it. My personal opinion I would get it.
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
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I agree with this 100%.
I had two G3's all ROMed and tweaked out & I loved them.
I had always wanted the bigger note screen and was pissed it wasn't available on Verizon.
As soon as I heard the N2 was coming to VZ I knew I had to have it.
I gave one G3 to my Wife to replace her aging Droid Charge and the other to my Son to replace his RAZR MAXX.
I am 1000% happy with my new N2. I think this phone is perfect in every way and will be happy with it for a long time (this is the first phone I have ever been 100% happy with). At this point, I really don't see how a different processor will make ANY difference whatever in my use of the phone.
Heck, the G3 is dual core & this one is quad core but I can't tell any difference whatever in daily use of the two.
lambo172 said:
Just depends, do you want the larger screen and the spen? The Note II is just a larger s3
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With a quad-core CPU instead of the dual core in the US variant of the S3, in addition you get a larger battery and a RGB screen instead of the PenTile Matrix in the S3.
You guys need to factor in that the OP's upgrade isn't available for a few more months. By that time the S4 will be right around the corner, which you can sure bet will trump the Note 2.
I'm not one to say keep waiting all year round for the next best thing because you'll be waiting forever. But truth is this phone is kinda old already. Note 2 launched back in October 2012, we're now pushing February 2013 almost. Why waste an upgrade on an old device? If you really want the increased screen size then just wait for the Note 3 which is rumored to have a 6.3" 1080p screen. If I had a Galaxy S3 I would have skipped the Note 2 for sure and waited for the Note 3, but since I had an HTC Thunderbolt (piece of crap) I was desperate to make a move. And so I did. I'm happy with the Note 2 but I just know much better devices are right around the corner, don't waste it on an old phone.
Man I wish VZW still offered one year contracts. I'm never gonna make it using one phone for 2 years. There's just no way :laugh:
Since you love the S3 I'd stick with it and look at either the S4 (or whatever they call it) or the Note 3. The S4 is rumored to release around your upgrade and the Note 3 would probably release sometime between September and November.
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Honestly, I wouldn't waste an upgrade from an S3 to a GN2. If I were you I would buy the GN2 and try to sell the S3 to try to cover some of the cost. Otherwise wait until April and see what's out or coming out.
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Well that's exactly what I was thinking. What is the likelihood of the N3 and S4 coming out together? Ultimately, I don't know a whole lot about the N2, other than it's bigger than the s3. So I was looking for others' opinions... to kind of help guide me. I am, of course, going to wait and see what rumors surface by then.
Pretty much what I was looking for. Looks like I'll be waiting 'till I hear some good rumors.
I just sold my s3 on ebay as unlocked. Got $400 for it and bought a note2. I love this phone plus i still have my upgrade for the next big thing.
I went ahead and added a line to upgrade. I would of had to do it anyway since you can't use the upgrade on your line if you want to keep unlimited data. Well worth it, coming from a galaxy nexus this phone is awesome. Definitely took a week to get used to the size though.
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Get Note 2 or wait for Galaxy S4

Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
Opinions?
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Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
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In all reality do you think it's specs will be much better then the note? It will simply be the current flavor of the month but in reality won't be that much improved.
If you like the note get it. If you're going to wait for the s4, then may as well wait for the note 3, but by that time the nexus 5 will be coming you so should wait for it and so on. My point is there will always be a new hot phone coming.
So if the phone you like is here already then get it or you will just keep waiting on the next big thing and never actually get any. I can say I've owned most the high end phones on Verizon and nothing can touch this note!
Sent from the dark on a Note 2
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kintwofan said:
In all reality do you think it's specs will be much better then the note? It will simply be the current flavor of the month but in reality won't be that much improved.
If you like the note get it. If you're going to wait for the s4, then may as well wait for the note 3, but by that time the nexus 5 will be coming you so should wait for it and so on. My point is there will always be a new hot phone coming.
So if the phone you like is here already then get it or you will just keep waiting on the next big thing and never actually get any. I can say I've owned most the high end phones on Verizon and nothing can touch this note!
Sent from the dark on a Note 2
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This. Technology moves too fast for you to make a decision like that. Buy what phone fits you, and don't regret it.
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Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
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The screen will be bigger on the Note 2 and the GS4 won't have an sPen. I'd say get the Note 2, unless you can do without those two awesome features. I personally can't and won't. My next phone will be the Note 3.
I may be in the minority, but it's rumored that on March 15th we'll know what the S4 will be. Seeing as how it's just a little over a month away, I would personally wait to see if it offers anything that the Note 2 doesn't before you spend $600 and/or get locked into a 2 year contract.
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Note 2 for the win. I dissed it until I used it. Now I can't do without it
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Note 2! The resale of the N2 should be pretty good down the road if something gets released that you cant live without.
Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
Opinions?
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There simply won't be enough advances in technology for the S4 to be worth the wait, not to mention you will have to pay the premium subsidized pricing if you go that route. Of course if you want a smaller screen, then the S4 would be the obvious choice. However, the specs along for the S4 don't guarantee a good user experience where the galaxy note 2 has already been established as providing a good user experience due to the stylus and customized UI that it comes on the device.
With phones, you won't ever be the king of the mountain for long before something better hits the market, so you might as well choose a device that best meets your needs. I was looking for a device that would give me decent battery life, but I didn't expect the note 2, to provide more than 3 days of battery life under light usage and 2 days under normal usage.
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You can ask this question all day, replacing note 2 with "x" and S4 with "y".
Make sense? Whatever feels right - get it!
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Thanks guys! Well I always wanted the biggest screen phone I could buy so it seems the Note 2 is a clear winner for me! Hows the battery life been on it with Verizons lte?
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Thanks guys! Well I always wanted the biggest screen phone I could buy so it seems the Note 2 is a clear winner for me! Hows the battery life been on it with Verizons lte?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34820057
Let You compare multiple people's
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If you wait for the next big thing you are always going to be waiting.
Changes so fast.
With the specs and rapidly growing development on the note ll I am quite happy with my purchase and feel my device is something that will make me happy for a couple of years. I usually steal all the upgrades and pass down my old phone to the wife and kids each year but that may change now. Na.....what am I saying? Daddy always gets the big piece of chicken. Hahaha!
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Wait for the N3?
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Wait for the N3?
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Wait for GS5??
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If you want a phone the size of the G3 but with the reception (or other feature of interest) of the note 2; I would wait and see what the G4 has to offer; however if you are happy with the note 2 form factor/feature set then I would just get the note 2. From my perspecitve the note 2 has two flaws (which might be fixed in a future phone):
a) The screen is vulnerable if dropped (the newer phones are suppose to be better in this arena though I'm not sure if they will still be as scratch resistant)
b) I would prefer a phone a bit narrower than the note 2 (length is less of an issue).
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As an FYI I do have a note 2 (which replaces the droid razr). I really only have two complaints (width which I mentioned) and i prefer the mail client (stock andriod) on the razr (and tablets) to the one on the note 2. I really wans't unhappy with the razr but i purchased it before the maxx was announced and it had rather poor battery life and after a year the battery life was just not acceptable any longer and the note was the only phone I found reasonable at this date (I would have considered the dna if it had a larger battery; and some of the applications I use such as xscope) don't really work well with the on screen buttons of the hd-razr).
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I still consider the stylus largely a gimick though over time that view might change; i have small hands but the weight is fine - and the phone is significantly more responsive than the razr. One amusing thing I learned when er removing the auto wifi notify is the note 2 has very fast internal sd; something the tf700 (asus) should pay attention to (for those in teh dark ft700 has a bad problem with lag due to a miserably slow internal sd).
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. From my perspecitve the note 2 has two flaws (which might be fixed in a future phone):
b) I would prefer a phone a bit narrower than the note 2 (length is less of an issue).
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I certainly wouldn't call the width a "flaw"
I hate phones that have long narrow screens, I want my screen as wide as possible.
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I certainly wouldn't call the width a "flaw"
I hate phones that have long narrow screens, I want my screen as wide as possible.
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Fxck Verizon period lol come to tmobile then u can start figuring out if u want the note 2 or s4 Verizon and there restrictions slow ass firmware updates **** customer service does not make up for lte coverage .. I wouldn't get any phone on Verizon period .. so in my opinion dont get either lol
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YOUNGTWAN said:
Fxck Verizon period lol come to tmobile then u can start figuring out if u want the note 2 or s4 Verizon and there restrictions slow ass firmware updates **** customer service does not make up for lte coverage .. I wouldn't get any phone on Verizon period .. so in my opinion dont get either lol
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I cant imagine a more useless post, besides mine of course

simple question, need a simple answer

If I walk into a VW store tomorrow (8/29/13) and buy a Note II.... can it be rooted and ROM'd on the latest software version?
Yes.
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If I walk into a VW store tomorrow (8/29/13) and buy a Note II.... can it be rooted and ROM'd on the latest software version?[/QUOTE
it can be rooted. you can get a touchwiz rom only up to 4.1.2. maybe an aosp rom with 4.3
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drtchocky said:
If I walk into a VW store tomorrow (8/29/13) and buy a Note II.... can it be rooted and ROM'd on the latest software version?[/QUOTE
it can be rooted. you can get a touchwiz rom only up to 4.1.2. maybe an aosp rom with 4.3
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So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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B_I_N_G_E said:
So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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Yes. All of the methods are in the original development section.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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HA!
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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drtchocky said:
Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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Well, I have a few thoughts on it.
First off, you can't go wrong with this phone. I know we're all kind of still stuck in that mindset that we need the newest device available, but it just doesn't matter as much as it did two years ago. We reached that plateau where the computational hardware is more than powerful enough to run a perfectly smooth experience throughout the OS. Even with the new CPU architecture (A15 vs the A9 in this phone) in phones like the SGS4, the One, the GN3, etc. there's not much of a point in the extra power. When we went from A7 to A9 then single to dual core, it was a big deal. We needed the absolute best hardware to obtain the best experience we could. We've simply past that point.
With that said, 720p vs 1080p, to me at least, also means less than 720p vs WVGA. Even at 5.5" inches, it's really freakin' hard to see the difference. Also, if you have vision issues, you realize that things will be smaller in 1080p vs 720p? Things are sharper because they can fit more stuff in the same screen, and produce the same images at a smaller rate. DON'T "upgrade" to 1080p if that's an issue for you.
The biggest selling point for us, of course, is that the GN2 is the only one with an unlocked bootloader right now. There's hope that the SGS4 will have safestrap (maybe even kexec support too) soon, and while safestrap's great, it's not an unlocked bootloader. It's a big deal, it's getting harder to unlock them with every new generation of phones. Before you go with this though, really take the time to hold it in your hand there. If you're used to using your phone with one hand, it will be a lot harder. People actually laugh at how big my hands are, but I can only barely reach every part of this screen with my thumb.
The One has a beautiful design, screen, etc. but I personally can't give up a removable battery and external sd support. I have barely plugged this phone in because I swap batteries and use an external charger. Furthermore, I never worry about storage because of the sd. I can't give those up.
The Note 3 will probably be the same size as this device with a smaller bezel. It will probably be even thinner too, if the SGS3 to 4 is any precedent. It will be my first choice as an upgrade, but I'm in no rush. I'll wait until I can get a custom ROM/kernel on it so there's established & active development for it. I would hate to be stuck in the situation SGS4 users are in now. Even MDK users, the ones who were able to get their phone before the firmware update, barely have development options because there's such a small user base.
The new Nexus I can't really comment on, there's no substantial information available for it, which at least means it won't be available any time soon. The Nexus 4 and GNex were horribly-kept secrets, so the new one won't be any different.
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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I think I might just go with Amazon.... it's only 99 on there now. Going in today just to test the Moto X at VZW... though I know I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disappointed.

Is there anything the note 2 can't do?

I am going to be switching to Verizon, and I have always liked the note series, just never had one. I like the note 3 on paper but I also like custom roms and aosp. Hence why I decided on the 2, I want that option, I just don't think there will be as much for the 3, but I digress..
I am one of those type of people that always wants the latest and greatest, but I am more than happy with my s3 I have had since june 2012.
really is there anything out there that the note 2 can't handle?I play a few games, but never tried anything more intensive than gta3. Any performance problems ever?
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I don't play a ton of games on it, but I have played GTA3 and Need for Speed...never had any performance issues. I have had the phone since December and still haven't see another phone that his given me phone envy yet.
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I never ran into issues with the n2. If you are able to hold out. I would go with the n3. Way better specs. Better everything and the same relative size.
What exactly about aosp do you like? I personally feel that Samsung has come a long way with touchwiz and it is the best manufacturer skin.
Just my 2 cents. I currently have the s4 and I'm jumping on the n3 as soon as I can
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Aosp? Everything.
Touchwiz isn't horrible, I just prefer to run the slimmest Rom I can. I will probably root the note2, unlock the bootloader, and run a stock rooted rom for a while, but I will get bored with it fast. On my s3 I thought"this is the first phone I don't want to root", well that lasted less than 3 months
The other thing I have to consider is the financial side, I am breaking one of my Sprint contracts for 160 to switch. And if I wait I until the 10th, then I have a whole 'nother month of sprint service to pay for as my billing cycle goes through the 8th.
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I bounce back and forth between TW and AOSP. I really like s note, and I use BT voice dialing everyday during the week, so I only use AOSP on weekends.
I don't really play games on my phone but I use it more than I use my laptop. Running sar to check cpu stats has never shown that all 4 cores were maxed out.
I like some of the software features on the Note 3, but the hardware specs are only paper upgrades.
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I like some of the software features on the Note 3, but the hardware specs are only paper upgrades.
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Exactly! Most of the N3 upgrades will never be noticed in real world use. I think I am going to hold off another year and get the N4. The new LTE should be out and imo that is the biggest upgrade worth spending the coin on. Verizon LTE has dropped way off in performance over the last year.
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Exactly! Most of the N3 upgrades will never be noticed in real world use. I think I am going to hold off another year and get the N4. The new LTE should be out and imo that is the biggest upgrade worth spending the coin on. Verizon LTE has dropped way off in performance over the last year.
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Unfortunately for me they have the best coverage everywhere I need/want to go
I am getting the note 2 next weekend, and hopefully the g2 for the wife, can't wait!
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droidstyle said:
Exactly! Most of the N3 upgrades will never be noticed in real world use. I think I am going to hold off another year and get the N4. The new LTE should be out and imo that is the biggest upgrade worth spending the coin on. Verizon LTE has dropped way off in performance over the last year.
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Preach droidstyle. This phone needs no upgrade yet. I was a guy getting a new device every 4 to six months and I'm saying this. Have an upgrade as we speak. No need of it. The HTC One is gorgeous but locked as a mofo. The moto x is gorgeous. But locked as well. Chilling with this device that has been keeping me MORE then happy
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Glad to see this thread. I'm a long time (almost 9 years) T-Mobile customer joining up with Verizon this week. I recently moved, and there just isn't any other coverage in this area. I did my due diligence and decided to go with the Note 2. (I have to buy my phone off contract and bring it over to save my parents' unlimited plan.) Was happy to see this level of customizing possible for Note 2 considering the carrier... Now I just need the phone to get here!

Today, decided the move to the 4

I had made up my mind to stick with the 3.
Crazy enough, my main decision is based on the camera and video.
Played with the 4 in Best Buy and every pic and video was virtually perfect, and watched many videos and reviews.
At my daughter's birthday gathering today, half my 3 pics were crap. Sucked.
While not my only selling point, the cam is important to me due to taking pics and Vids of my kids.
There are of course other points ( root, charging faster, l am a phone ho, etc.) so I know I will not be dissappointed.
Going tomorrow to give down payment, and this time unlocked, month to month, no Verizon to deal with.
I know most of you could care less, so skip the party pooper posts ( mods excluded of course, do whatever you like!).
Just trying to express my feelings as l am the only person in my whole family who is a tech whore, so my tech talk is limited.
This place needs as much life as possible anyway.
Trying to get wife to take over the 3 (she has S4) to move her on up.
Thanks for listening!
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Are you off contract with Verizon now and paying full price or are you switching service providers?
I completely understand. I'm sure a lot of us, including myself are on the fence about leaving the note 3 and moving towards the note 4. It was the same feeling a lot of note 2 users has exactly a year ago, when the juggernaut 3 came out. Is it worth it for the better camera and quad hd display? some will say yes, some may no. But in your case, with the kids and taking all the moments is important than the justifies the move up. But for me, I don't want to pay outright for the phone, so I could sign up for edge but I don't want to. But this time next year, the next big thing will be out, the juggernaut 5
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Are you off contract with Verizon now and paying full price or are you switching service providers?
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Gonna keep the 3 and give to wife's son as Christmas gift.
I think he will be elated. He has a cracked Droid Maxx right now. LOL
But my 4 will be off contract and not Verizon.
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
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I completely understand. I'm sure a lot of us, including myself are on the fence about leaving the note 3 and moving towards the note 4. It was the same feeling a lot of note 2 users has exactly a year ago, when the juggernaut 3 came out. Is it worth it for the better camera and quad hd display? some will say yes, some may no. But in your case, with the kids and taking all the moments is important than the justifies the move up. But for me, I don't want to pay outright for the phone, so I could sign up for edge but I don't want to. But this time next year, the next big thing will be out, the juggernaut 5
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Plus I feel like dev for the Verizon note 4 may be sparse for a while. If the difficulty bypassing the locked bootloader on the s5 is any sign of what it will be like on the n4 then I'm not holding my breath
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Plus I feel like dev for the Verizon note 4 may be sparse for a while. If the difficulty bypassing the locked bootloader on the s5 is any sign of what it will be like on the n4 then I'm not holding my breath
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Verizon and their control is simply too much. Unless they change I will never go back
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Yeah I actually got the OnePlus One and have been using on AT&T Straight Talk side by side with my Verizon Note 3 this month. I love my note 3 and am having trouble deciding on whether or not I want to make the switch permanent
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Yeah I actually got the OnePlus One and have been using on AT&T Straight Talk side by side with my Verizon Note 3 this month. I love my note 3 and am having trouble deciding on whether or not I want to make the switch permanent
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I heard that phone is hard to get but Very very good.
What is Your experience with it?
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Awesome phone. Battery life is insane, camera is quite nice, screen is solid but not quite as responsive as my N3, and I like the size of the n3 better. Which is most likely just because i have been using it for a year. My only complaints are the reception is terrible and the screen sensitivity. I will randomly have calls go straight to voice mail and that never happened on my note 3.
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Awesome phone. Battery life is insane, camera is quite nice, screen is solid but not quite as responsive as my N3, and I like the size of the n3 better. Which is most likely just because i have been using it for a year. My only complaints are the reception is terrible and the screen sensitivity. I will randomly have calls go straight to voice mail and that never happened on my note 3.
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I in fact just read about it today on a tech site rating phones, it was rated in the middle of top 10 phones in the world. Even ahead of the S5
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
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Plus I feel like dev for the Verizon note 4 may be sparse for a while. If the difficulty bypassing the locked bootloader on the s5 is any sign of what it will be like on the n4 then I'm not holding my breath
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Verizon and their control is simply too much. Unless they change I will never go back
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
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I was thiking the same thing. With out Hashcode I don't know which dev is going to continue safestrap. I'm sure root will be achievied but beyond that, I do not know about the note 4's future. But who know's it might pick up. I've noticed that note 3 developemnt has been slow lately. No update to jellybeans rom, hypderdrive, allicance but it seems jasmine rom is still going at least. But what if the devs are working on note 4 stuff.? Just a lot of stuff floating in the air.
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I was thiking the same thing. With out Hashcode I don't know which dev is going to continue safestrap. I'm sure root will be achievied but beyond that, I do not know about the note 4's future. But who know's it might pick up. I've noticed that note 3 developemnt has been slow lately. No update to jellybeans rom, hypderdrive, allicance but it seems jasmine rom is still going at least. But what if the devs are working on note 4 stuff.? Just a lot of stuff floating in the air.
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Yeah, I am a certified flashaholic so I am In withdrawal.
I need professional help I think.
When I get a phone the first objective is to always root. LOL
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
Without unlocked boot loader DEV always slows down without any new leaks or updates. Same story on my last 2 phones, OG Epic & Note 2.
Note III KK-style
MeetFace said:
Without unlocked boot loader DEV always slows down without any new leaks or updates. Same story on my last 2 phones, OG Epic & Note 2.
Note III KK-style
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Glad I still have my boot loader unlocked note 2.
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I'm wanting the note 4 but I was thinking about waiting until development picks up. Well today I took the case off my note 3 and noticed the plastic edges are cracking (wtf?). Sooooo now I'm like, do I get the note 4 asap or should I just pick up an iPhone 6 -__-
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I'm wanting the note 4 but I was thinking about waiting until development picks up. Well today I took the case off my note 3 and noticed the plastic edges are cracking (wtf?). Sooooo now I'm like, do I get the note 4 asap or should I just pick up an iPhone 6 -__-
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Oh no, you said the I word!
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
I am switching to tmo on Friday and picking up a note 4. I get horrible verizon reception in my apartment, and tmo has wifi calling. They are also giving me $220 for my Note 3, which only cost $150, and paying the Verizon etf. Unlocked bootloader will be a welcome change as well...
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DieHappy said:
I am switching to tmo on Friday and picking up a note 4. I get horrible verizon reception in my apartment, and tmo has wifi calling. They are also giving me $220 for my Note 3, which only cost $150, and paying the Verizon etf. Unlocked bootloader will be a welcome change as well...
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Good move. I think you will be happier
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3
The phone that I'll be going to next will be Shamu
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The phone that I'll be going to next will be Shamu
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Sounds nice and if s-pen wasn't important to me I'd be there with you
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3

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