Guys, it feels so good to be back to XDA. I was active here back in 2008 during Windows 6.5 days. I'm a little confused here so would like to know what actually is the difference between "AT&T HTC One Android Development" and AT&T HTC One Original Android Development" forum ?
thanks in advance
When I came back from a hiatus I was confused about this as well. From what I can tell Stock Roms and those based on Sense go in the standard development thread, Roms like CM and kernels go to Original thread.
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Deadstyle said:
When I came back from a hiatus I was confused about this as well. From what I can tell Stock Roms and those based on Sense go in the standard development thread, Roms like CM and kernels go to Original thread.
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Close, but not exactly. Literally, only "original" work goes in Original forum. This means no rebakes, repacks, slightly altered mods, conglomerate ROMs, etc. Only ROMs and kernels and mods that are truly unique personal original development work... meaning built from source, with your own unique source (linked to GitHub etc) included.
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Close, but not exactly. Literally, only "original" work goes in Original forum. This means no rebakes, repacks, slightly altered mods, conglomerate ROMs, etc. Only ROMs and kernels and mods that are truly unique personal original development work... meaning built from source, with your own unique source (linked to GitHub etc) included.
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Ooooooooh. Thanks for clearing that up for me too. I was thinking maybe it was the development section for threads pre/just after device launch or something.
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Which thread in the development is for cm7 harmony, yes I have tried to figure it out (read and search), which one did it merge into?
Edit: For those who want to know it is the asop rom, I asked in a different forum and got a fast reply.
There's a cm7 thread in general.
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Um not exactly what I'm looking for but........closer, I guess cm7 is not popular huh, I'm using it on my aria and I love it.
CM7 is plenty popular, heck all the Gingerbread ROMs here are based off it's source tree.
The issue is the Cyanogenmod team isn't posting here and that is what would be required for a CM7 thread to be in the development section.
Since it's just "users" talking about CM7, the thread is in General and there are a few.
Again, it's all just users pointers to the ROM, stable or nightly and not the actual development team posting it so it belongs in General.
Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing or by unsubscribing and then resubscribing to this section.
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Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing from there.
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Very cool idea
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I haven't seen this before, but can understand why most would want this. Should make it much easier to find a specific thread. Especially for new comers. Very cool.
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I think this is neat, since I'm only really interested in the original development anyway, because that tends to be more fun.
Very nice. This will be extremely useful for devs.
edit: Hey Haus. Just an idea, but it would be nice to have a Recognized Dev forum with-in each device. One where we can collaborate and figure out mods together and have less chatter from non-devs. But a place where non-devs can still have access to links to mods and such. Just a thought.
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The way I see it is that it creates more place to navigate through to look for roms and other work. I personally do not see the real need for it especially since both sub forums would contain the same kind of information except that one would have original work and the other would not. This could have been done a different way without completely creating a new sub forum that would produce a similar result. For example, the OP post could explain that it's original work or the thread title for all original work would be identified with a prefix of ORG.
At any rate, it seems that others see it useful and probably very helpful for developers. I am not bothered by it! However, I would have preferred things to stay the way they were.
I'm just a little confused as to what defines original development versus non-original. Original meaning not ported from another device? As I browsed through the ROMs in each section I couldn't figure out what differentiated one from the other making it original.
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dsEVOlve said:
I'm just a little confused as to what defines original development versus non-original. Original meaning not ported from another device? As I browsed through the ROMs in each section I couldn't figure out what differentiated one from the other making it original.
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The announcement really details the difference.
For example, CM9 development is original because it's new and big and it's something that's being created.
ViperROM, for example, is not original because it is based on HTCs stock ROM.
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The announcement really details the difference.
For example, CM9 development is original because it's new and big and it's something that's being created.
ViperROM, for example, is not original because it is based on HTCs stock ROM.
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Well that is what I thought would be the factor at first. Except ViperROM and others based on stock are in the original section while other stock based ROMs are not.
Edit: I re-read the announcement and maybe the difference is more apparent to other devs and not so much to the layperson but still sounds kinda subjective. Doesn't make much difference to me, just curious.
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So....might be a n00b comment and I'm completely blind but I do not see the original development forum on the xda app.
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dsEVOlve said:
Well that is what I thought would be the factor at first. Except ViperROM and others based on stock are in the original section while other stock based ROMs are not.
Edit: I re-read the announcement and maybe the difference is more apparent to other devs and not so much to the layperson but still sounds kinda subjective. Doesn't make much difference to me, just curious.
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My apologies, when I checked the original section earlier it was nearly empty and only really had CM9. Looks like they moved a lot more over there.
Leoisright said:
Very nice. This will be extremely useful for devs.
edit: Hey Haus. Just an idea, but it would be nice to have a Recognized Dev forum with-in each device. One where we can collaborate and figure out mods together and have less chatter from non-devs. But a place where non-devs can still have access to links to mods and such. Just a thought.
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There are a lot of times where someone with a low post count is able to help out a lot so we don't want to limit it too much, but making it so only RDs (and maybe RCs/RTs) can create new threads there may be a good idea. Try running it by them in the RD area to see if it's possible.
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Well that is what I thought would be the factor at first. Except ViperROM and others based on stock are in the original section while other stock based ROMs are not.
Edit: I re-read the announcement and maybe the difference is more apparent to other devs and not so much to the layperson but still sounds kinda subjective. Doesn't make much difference to me, just curious.
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Unfortunately a lot of it is kind of subjective since it's a difficult thing to really define, but for the most part it depends on how significant the changes with the ROM are. It's very much a work in progress still so I apologize if things get bounced around some while it's all being sorted.
Hmm, I'm not sure I like this but it will prolly grow on me.
Issue I have now tho is not being able to see this forum in the xda app..someone else mentioned it as well.
Rippley05 said:
Hmm, I'm not sure I like this but it will prolly grow on me.
Issue I have now tho is not being able to see this forum in the xda app..someone else mentioned it as well.
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As has already been mentioned, all you have to do is un-favorite the forum and then go back through the list and favorite it again.
xHausx, I like your work and appreciate all the explanations you give but I gotta say.. this new section is retarded.
Maybe it was needed in the Samsung forums but we don't need it here. It's just going to confuse a ton of people.
I'm not a dev, so if they like the idea that's great. I just see it as a way for more silly arguments to start. I think that development is development the smallest of ideas is original. Seems like if you're in original then your work is somehow better. I guess we'll see how it works out.
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I think the most annoying part of this feature is having to look in two different places for the same thing and being unsure which forum your favorite rom(s) are located in. The more I use this (both on a desktop and on the phone), the more annoying it is. I don't think the average user care much whether the rom is original or not as long as it works well and do what it is supposed to do.
The idea behind adding this feature is great but its reality is not.
I was excited about the section but it all seems the same as before. Every mod, derivative rom, and other FAQs.
I think it probably would have best been split AOSP core and HTC core if you're going to split it at all, otherwise just leave it the way it was, as messy as it was.
Im not a fan of it either. I find it hard to differentiate between the two. I've read the announcement but I still find myself going into both looking for a specific thread. I think this will just confuse a lot of people but if the devs like it then ok...
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I'm a moderator, and I make roms and mods and themes, some of that is "original". I've written some tutorials for original things as well. Honestly I think this is silly. Maybe tag original dev threads or something like the "recognized" program. But differentiating dev threads seems like a lot more headache for devs and users alike. It's like making a new original themes section where the themer drew his images from scratch and wrote new xmls instead of modifying existing images and code. Who's idea was this? I fail to see it's benefit. If it is what it is then cool. But there's already RUU kitchen built roms in the "original" section, and though there may be "original" tweaks to said roms, I don't know that that makes them so. I'd love to have some transparent open discussion about this with users/devs/moderators alike. Thoughts? Counters? Etc?
Hi. I'm new to EVO LTE and I kinda look for this answer but couldn't quite find it. Why is there 2 development for EVO LTE?
I have the original black EVO. Do I use the original EVO development? Or does it matter what I use? Thank you in advance.
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Original development is for thing like root methods etc., development is for roms and mods based off of stock things.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
There's a sticky at the top of the original development forum that explains everything
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It's not a dumb question, it's a dumb system. To have these two development sections separated is just plain dumb. A better division would be roms separate from rooting methods or such. But to distinguish between some roms as being original and some not seems to be very inconsistent. This separated development sections started with the Samsung threads and they can keep it. Give us HTC guys back our single development thread.
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Its supposed to be a way to distinguish ROMS & other projects that have significant original work being done from those that are simply modified stock.
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It's not a dumb question, it's a dumb system. To have these two development sections separated is just plain dumb. A better division would be roms separate from rooting methods or such. But to distinguish between some roms as being original and some not seems to be very inconsistent. This separated development sections started with the Samsung threads and they can keep it. Give us HTC guys back our single development thread.
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Lol. I guess and its confusing also.
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Its supposed to be a way to distinguish ROMS & other projects that have significant original work being done from those that are simply modified stock.
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But most of the roms in the original development section are just heavily themed and nothing else. Nothing groundbreaking. If you go with the original intent of the separation of development threads than only CM10 would be in that thread,
There's plenty of original development done in those roms/ect
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Been Modding for a while. Galaxy S, HTC, etc. Just got a Note from a friend and this is the only phone I've seen a dev section and "original" what's the difference? I don't want to end up with a fancy brick...
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The second thread in the original dev section explains this.
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joe3681 said:
Been Modding for a while. Galaxy S, HTC, etc. Just got a Note from a friend and this is the only phone I've seen a dev section and "original" what's the difference? I don't want to end up with a fancy brick...
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The original Dev section is for development related items and topics that are original work. Not ported roms, re-baked parts etc.
You would find a rom here made from source, such as cyanogenmod, or perhaps an original kernel. Everything else is in the regular Dev section....g
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The original Dev section is for development related items and topics that are original work. Not ported roms, re-baked parts etc.
You would find a rom here made from source, such as cyanogenmod, or perhaps an original kernel. Everything else is in the regular Dev section....g
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Aha! Thanks
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Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing or by unsubscribing and then resubscribing to this section.
Thank you for addressing our request
Who would I need to bring a list of those original development threads that still remain in the Android Development forum that need to transfer here?
-Neo
EDIT:
The following fall under the guidelines of First for the device/official/or heavily modified original kernel work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074906
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659210
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079282
It may take some time to sort through everything, but the best way to let us know is to PM one of us.
edit: Unless I'm missing something the MIUI and AOKP threads aren't even GPL compliant?
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It may take some time to sort through everything, but the best way to let us know is to PM one of us.
edit: Unless I'm missing something the MIUI and AOKP threads aren't even GPL compliant?
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lol
Busted!
Added to my signature thanks.
he didnt know where to put it. give him a break
I have moved a large amount of threads over to the Original Dev section. This mainly consisted of cm10/cm9/aokp/kernel threads that were source built. Please PM me or any other mod if you think your thread should be moved as well.
gotta say. you mods rock. thank you for everything you do.
I almost had a heart attack because I couldn't find my CyanogenMod mega threads!
Thought I was going to be banned or something.
xHausx said:
Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing or by unsubscribing and then resubscribing to this section.
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Ok, this explains a lot. I thought I was going nuts for a sec.
i wish we had a poll asking if we wanted this, iv always been agianst separating dev section, for the same thing, this just alienated and confuses the users.
I tend to agree with siul.
Do you know how much extra work is to have three main folders to check under each device? General / Development (read ROMS that are cool but came from another device) / and Original Development (ROMS that are still based on others work but have been tweaked/setup somewhat uniquely.)
Honest to God, those were my reactions. So I know where siul is coming from...how is MIUI in a different thread than AOKP? If you add a few apps that look different and don't ship with AOKP, is that suddenly original?
Again, not trying to start drama but just my two cents.
EDIT: Just read the whole justification for this. I get it, but still think it's another layer of stuff to sort through.
Bad idea change thing back to the old ways Please
This is bad Mostly for the user who are new i seen the other forum that are like this, not a good i idea doing this plus the developer hate going to one forum to the other just to set thing straight
cflo360 said:
This is bad Mostly for the user who are new i seen the other forum that are like this, not a good i idea doing this plus the developer hate going to one forum to the other just to set thing straight
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i am confused too. It may look more obvious and understandable for devs only...
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torr310 said:
i am confused too. It may look more obvious and understandable for devs only...
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Not really. I am not sure how my CM threads fall into original development.
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Not really. I am not sure how my CM threads fall into original development.
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Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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Oh. I see original as something new and completely different.
Whatever.
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Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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That's what I think. All of the AOSP ROMs built from Chad's git are not original unless chad himself released a ROM.
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I think this new thread splt is to confusing. Now I have to check two places. Please revert to back
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siulmagic said:
I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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I don't take your response to that effect in any way and no intent to malice received.
"The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already."
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This plainly states that the self compiled roms belong on the Android Development forum so I side with you in that aspect. However, there is no official or maintainer version of CyanogenMod roms or AOKP thread available so unless Chad uploads his build in this forum as he rightfully could, these builds (from what I understand) can and should be posted here.
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