Greetings,
I'm finally getting sick of my rezound and I'm thinking about switching to the S4. I'm planning on keeping my unlimited plan so I'll likely be purchasing my next Verizon phone outright. I'm a big fan of the stock Google experience but I need the Verizon coverage map with all the work travel I end up having to remote areas.
The S4 seems like my best bet. My question is, do I:
1) Buy a used S4 on swappa. The discount over a new model is *very* attractive to me.
2) Buy the S4 new.
3) Buy the S4 Dev edition new.
4) Wait for something different.
I'm leaning towards buying used on Swappa but there's a good chance it'll be ME7, right? Then I'm stuck with a locked bootloader and touch wiz until some new developments. (By the way, how are the S4 AOSP roms? More stable than my rezound ones were I hope?) What would you suggest?
Thanks for your help.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
I don't really see any point in buying the S4 new if you're buying outright. At that point just get the dev edition. If you're looking for a discount on Swappa, try and get one that is MDK, I know I saw at least one there that was already on CM10.1 so you know that one isn't all locked down. But I'm gonna bet those types of things are also selling at higher prices.
I wouldn't bother waiting. It seems that there is always some new device on the market. If you wait for a phone to be unlocked (which, by the way, may simply never happen), most likely before or by the time that happens a newer, attractive device will emerged, but probably be locked down. Wait for the unlock on that and the same thing will happen. Meanwhile you're stuck on your dying device. It's not worth it. Buy the device you want. Don't go in with the assumption of an unlock though. If you end up with ME7 as your only option, only buy it if you are actually willing to live with TouchWiz. If it gets cracked that's a bonus, but don't operate on the assumption that that is simply going to happen. Even with HC and other talented people working on it, it's not a given.
Best of luck with your purchase
usefulidiot127 said:
Greetings,
I'm finally getting sick of my rezound and I'm thinking about switching to the S4. I'm planning on keeping my unlimited plan so I'll likely be purchasing my next Verizon phone outright. I'm a big fan of the stock Google experience but I need the Verizon coverage map with all the work travel I end up having to remote areas.
The S4 seems like my best bet. My question is, do I:
1) Buy a used S4 on swappa. The discount over a new model is *very* attractive to me.
2) Buy the S4 new.
3) Buy the S4 Dev edition new.
4) Wait for something different.
I'm leaning towards buying used on Swappa but there's a good chance it'll be ME7, right? Then I'm stuck with a locked bootloader and touch wiz until some new developments. (By the way, how are the S4 AOSP roms? More stable than my rezound ones were I hope?) What would you suggest?
Thanks for your help.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ask questions on swappa, like build number, etc. I know when I sold a phone on swappa, I detailed that the bootloader was unlocked, and what to do for recovery, etc.. I would expect many others would do the same. I can tell you that personally I really enjoy the S4, my new one came with ME7 already updated so I have not been able to ROM it up, but I have root, debloated, and using Nova launcher this phone is really slick. Add that to safe strap release being eminent and its about to get interesting for even the ones who missed the Loki option.
As for the stability of the roms, can't say from personal experience, but I will say this phone has a whole lot more attention from devs even being as locked as it is then the Rezound ever did because of how popular it is, so stability is almost guaranteed to be better.
What he said. If you're willing to spend the cash get the Dev edition. If not wait for a MDK to show up on swappa. Or choose a different one all together.
I'm loving my Dev s4.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
Yea. Go dev.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
I came from a rezound as well. No regrets. S4 is a great phone, great battery life, and you can't cook an egg on it after 15 minutes of Web browsing. It does have a weaker antenna than any other phone I've owned, but if you're decent-good area you'll be fine. I would go fire dev edition since it's unlocked.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
Used an upgrade on a different line with the device transfer loophole to retain unlimited. Really happy with this phone so far, even if it is all bloaty/touchwizy/locked. I'll be keeping a close eye on that safestrap thread. Thanks for the responses.
usefulidiot127 said:
1) Buy a used S4 on swappa. The discount over a new model is *very* attractive to me.
.
.
.
I'm leaning towards buying used on Swappa but there's a good chance it'll be ME7, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On Swappa you can ask questions of or request info from the seller before purchase... such as requesting they provide the tell you the output from settings/more/about phone/baseband version as well as build number... Or asking how they were able to successfully avoid the OTA etc.
Gave the Rezound to my sister.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 4
I'm thinking of picking up the S4 in 32 gigs. I've read through post and still am unsure, but there currently isn't a method to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery correct? Also will I still be able to root and use google wallet?
Harvey Dent said:
I'm thinking of picking up the S4 in 32 gigs. I've read through post and still am unsure, but there currently isn't a method to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery correct? Also will I still be able to root and use google wallet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes,YES, and YES.
haza12d said:
Yes,YES, and YES.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. Just still deciding between the hTc One and the S4.
Harvey Dent said:
Thanks. Just still deciding between the hTc One and the S4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My gf had an HTC that took a dump on her, so she's not getting another. Also, my HTC was horrible on updates so I'll pass. Especially the camera and no battery/SD card slot.
I could care less if the phone was made out of aluminum, titanium, silver, platium. I always use a case which covers the phone.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
richii0207 said:
My gf had an HTC that took a dump on her, so she's not getting another. Also, my HTC was horrible on updates so I'll pass. Especially the camera and no battery/SD card slot.
I could care less if the phone was made out of aluminum, titanium, silver, platium. I always use a case which covers the phone.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the one thing I like about the one is how clean sense 5 is compared to touch wiz. If I were to pick up the S4 I would love to turn it into a GPE.
Related
This thread is to discuss any other device, comparisons to the S4 or upgrading options.
Thank You
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
I said I wasn't going to get the s4 but here I am with it. So I'm sure I'll end up with the g2 and note 3. Its a bad addiction always having to get the newest device.
Sent from my GT-I9505G using xda premium
All in all. I am very pleased with this phone...however I do tend to agree with the CEO of Motorola though..
What can the S4 do that the S3 can't? (That really matters)...
Most of the upgrades are gimmicky and will be applied to the S3 with 4.2 update.
For me the note 3 is really going to have to be a game changer to move to that device.
Truth is I'm clueless at which manufacturer is the right direction to move in after this phone...
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
ruffneckZeVo said:
I said I wasn't going to get the s4 but here I am with it. So I'm sure I'll end up with the g2 and note 3. Its a bad addiction always having to get the newest device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know right :laugh:
bajasur said:
All in all. I am very pleased with this phone...however I do tend to agree with the CEO of Motorola though..
What can the S4 do that the S3 can't? (That really matters)...
Most of the upgrades are gimmicky and will be applied to the S3 with 4.2 update.
For me the note 3 is really going to have to be a game changer to move to that device.
Truth is I'm clueless at which manufacturer is the right direction to move in after this phone...
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think bigger screen, better processor and spen make sense to upgrade at least for me. After Note 3 tho i don't think I will change phones for a while. It would be nice to have the Moto X features with the next gen specs but who knows when that will happen.
Verizon tried locking the S3 down and failed. They are successful till now, but who knows. However, with AT&T going the same path as Verizon, wouldn't blocking off the developers be the death of the Samsung brand (eventually)? The only thing people would be able to do effectively would be developing apps, and we know that this has not worked very well for other platforms (oranges and doors)
True that I can get a developer S4, but I do like the Samsung bloatware for some new apps and the gestures (And the saving $$$)
roc_vader said:
Verizon tried locking the S3 down and failed. They are successful till now, but who knows. However, with AT&T going the same path as Verizon, wouldn't blocking off the developers be the death of the Samsung brand (eventually)? The only thing people would be able to do effectively would be developing apps, and we know that this has not worked very well for other platforms (oranges and doors)
True that I can get a developer S4, but I do like the Samsung bloatware for some new apps and the gestures (And the saving $$$)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually wouldn't hate the bloatware if it wasn't 9gb; I didn't care to spend an extra 25 dollars for a sandisk microsd card.
I was prepared to send my GS4 back to Verizon and wait it out a few months and pick up a used GS3 on off eBay. Well GS3 16GB are going for nearly the same price as my on contract S4, so in the end I am keeping it . . . for now. If the GN3 turns out to be a real WOW device I will sell and move on, but 3GB of RAM is not the big motivator, it must be available in 32GB or 64GB on Verizon and have at least 23+GB of usable space or else why bother.
The G2, just doesn't hold much interest, no expansion card so you get what you got internal and that is never enough for me. Plus that .2 of extra screen is really the soft keys at the bottom so its not an upgrade over the S4, sure S800 processor but so what the GN3 will have an S800 and 3GB of RAM.
I'd gladly switch to the moto x if I could find a straight up trade... the processor might be older but I like the idea of it being optimized. Honestly a device shouldn't need to have these work horse processors to run smoothly (see any Windows Phone), but that's the nature of the OS. Plus this thing is huge...I have little hands and I feel like I'm in one of those burger King commercials
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Upgrade? The s4 is what, 3 months old?
After having the S3, Note 2 and now the S4 I am good for a while. I have my S4 rooted and I'm liking Hyperdrive a lot. No upgrade until next year sometime at the earliest.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
upgrade now.
I say definitely upgrade to an S4 if you're on verizon.
I'll be selling this and getting htc one, if boot loader isn't cracked by the time htc one gets s-off
andybones said:
I'll be selling this and getting htc one, if boot loader isn't cracked by the time htc one gets s-off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
brycekerr said:
This
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's tough for me to say this, as I was a longgg time HTC user,
Eris, Inc1, Inc2, Inc4, Rezound, DNA, (I'm even apart of the HTC Elevate) then I got the SG3, then SG4, and I love both the SG3 and SG4, but I won't be selling this SG4 and paying the difference for the same phone but with an unlocked bootloader.
I would rather use HTC dev unlock even than have just root and no option to flash ROMs.
We will have to see, it's hard to say if anyone is even close on the bootloader because you'd think that
1) they would want to wait for the bounty to get as high as possible but
2) what if another team is doing the same and the one above has no idea?
I hope that's not the case, and if it is the teams team up and crack the code.
andybones said:
I'll be selling this and getting htc one, if boot loader isn't cracked by the time htc one gets s-off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I prefer HTC's Sense to Samsung's TouchWiz. All my previous experience has been with HTC phones and I like them but......
No Micro SD card?
Non-replaceable battery?
Not if it were free! The above "features" make the phone totally useless to me.
andybones said:
It's tough for me to say this, as I was a longgg time HTC user,
Eris, Inc1, Inc2, Inc4, Rezound, DNA, (I'm even apart of the HTC Elevate) then I got the SG3, then SG4, and I love both the SG3 and SG4, but I won't be selling this SG4 and paying the difference for the same phone but with an unlocked bootloader.
I would rather use HTC dev unlock even than have just root and no option to flash ROMs.
We will have to see, it's hard to say if anyone is even close on the bootloader because you'd think that
1) they would want to wait for the bounty to get as high as possible but
2) what if another team is doing the same and the one above has no idea?
I hope that's not the case, and if it is the teams team up and crack the code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was a long time HTC user. I had the XV6800, TP2, ThunderTurd, and the Rezound. But the lack of software updates and just generally bad customer service and QC on their later devices really turned me off. That and they seem to refuse to listen to their customers when it comes to batteries and SD cards. (IMO). I mean what does it hurt to include them even if they don't get used? That, to me, was the straw that broke the camels back. I don't like paying HTC/Samsung/etc a premium just for them adding memory. Just the same as I don't like paying Asus, or whomever a premium for adding a few extra gig of ram or HDD space(or in my case SDD space). I'll add it myself and save the money. But don't force me to do it your way or you won't get my business.
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-htc-one-bootloader-unlock-and-root-already-available-20130822/
* cough *
Just need s-off
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
brycekerr said:
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-htc-one-bootloader-unlock-and-root-already-available-20130822/
* cough *
Just need s-off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AND a removable battery AND an SD card. Completely useless bit of crap w/o those IMHO.
xs11e said:
AND a removable battery AND an SD card. Completely useless bit of crap w/o those IMHO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and its locked again,
I had the GS4 but without an unlocked bootloader I could not risk wasting my upgrade. If it gets there I will be glad to consider it again, if I can get a 32GB with MDK I would consider it again. For now I am looking at the GN3 which to me is a great well rounded device that will likely get root, but also may have issues with bootloader.
For once I could not see me keeping a phone for 3 months only to pay the difference to upgrade and since I was late the GS4 party I could get out before it was too late.
The HTC One is an awesome phone, but Verizon again likes to offer only 16GB & 32GB phones so I don't think the 64GB will ever arrive and if it does it will be months later.
Also add insult to injury, HTC Dev after 1 day NO LONGER UNLOCKS the HTC One on Verizon. They got that door closed pretty F'n fast.
So I really *really* want the One when it comes out for verizon (hopefully it comes in black). Do you guys think its worth selling my DNA and getting it?
IMO? Nope. I'll wait and see what comes closer to the Holidays. The DNA is still a great device.
Sent from my Nexus 10
trickster2369 said:
IMO? Nope. I'll wait and see what comes closer to the Holidays. The DNA is still a great device.
Sent from my Nexus 10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is, and I guess you are right. Do you have any idea what phones are coming out? I will start researching this thanks.
I have no idea what's to come, but the last two years, HTC/Verizon has released something between Thanksgiving and Christmas (Rezound and DNA). At this point, I'll wait.
Sent from my Nexus 10
123421342 said:
So I really *really* want the One when it comes out for verizon (hopefully it comes in black). Do you guys think its worth selling my DNA and getting it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am. Going to make money off it too. That being said I have multiple lines so if womething else comes up I can still get it
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
trickster2369 said:
I have no idea what's to come, but the last two years, HTC/Verizon has released something between Thanksgiving and Christmas (Rezound and DNA). At this point, I'll wait.
Sent from my Nexus 10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like, for CDMA, its the G2, note 3 and thats pretty much it. The moto x is cool but I think the always listening feature (provided by a dedicated core) is a feature of the snapdragon 800 so most new phones should support it. Makes sense to wait until novemberish. Thank you.
Honestly, like a couple replies above.. I would wait... Typically a launch device will have some bugs and kinks to work out.. Plus, I agree that Verizon may still have something up their sleeve for later this year.. I think holding off until closer to Thanksgiving or even Christmas is a good plan... Plus, if you wait, and nothing comes about, chances are you can get the One for $149.99 or less perhaps on contract... You just never know with Verizon.
I think the One is a great device, but spec-wise, it's almost identical to the DNA.
I do like how the One is all aluminum though, it just has a really great feel in your hand. Buuuut, I really hate the lack of a capacitive recent apps button; I really dig the standard 3 button layout. I just wish more manufacturers went for the soft key layout. I've been really eyeballing that LG G2
123421342 said:
So I really *really* want the One when it comes out for verizon (hopefully it comes in black). Do you guys think its worth selling my DNA and getting it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Iam speculating/hoping that variant of butterfly s aka DNA2/DNA+ shows up during the holiday period over there
DNA | ⓣⓐⓟⓐⓣⓐⓛⓚ | TF300T
Selling the DNA for the One would not be worth it unless you want a smaller screen. The One may look prettier but the DNA has some better features IMO...larger screen, wireless charging, larger screen. Lol
I have used the One and just prefer the DNA. But to each their own.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 4
123421342 said:
It is, and I guess you are right. Do you have any idea what phones are coming out? I will start researching this thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
verizon is supposed to get a one maxx variant around the holidays this year
nitsuj17 said:
verizon is supposed to get a one maxx variant around the holidays this year
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A screen that large is just overkill IMO; I already can't reach my back button my DNA with my thumb. Fortunately, there is LMT launcher, which actually allows me to use my phone with one hand again :good:
kformeck said:
A screen that large is just overkill IMO; I already can't reach my back button my DNA with my thumb. Fortunately, there is LMT launcher, which actually allows me to use my phone with one hand again :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try a cm-based ROM with Pie.
As for the OP, just wait it out. I don't see a phone I really want yet. The DNA is reaching it's first birthday but it still is blazing fast and has a great screen, and as far as roms there are a bunch available. I also have an S4 and the speed difference is unnoticeable and the ROM selection is similar. The only thing it has over the DNA is the IR blaster and SD card which I don't even use. At this point upgrading will only get you higher benchmark scores but nothing you would notice in day to day use.
I doubt Verizon is getting another HTC phone this year. I'm thinking they were originally going to skip the One and go DNA2 put there's no need for both phones. Verizon is no about giving us options.
Don't forget besides the larger screen with an already rediculous PPI the DNA has an 8mp camera that's capable of taking incredible photos.
With the Sense5 ROMs well be getting tomorrow we'll just be missing "boomSound".
I am thinking of selling mine for the nexus 5/4+. It is rumored to be available on all carriers, I just hope Google puts their foot down and doesn't let Verizon eff it all up like the Gnex.
And who knows, since it will be holiday time you might still get 250 for the DNA.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
I still love my DNA but I also really like the One. Although I don't like the One enough to sell my DNA. Don't really see a point. Just gonna ride my DNA out for the remainder of the contract and get whatever kickass phone comes out when its upgrade time.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
fr4nk1yn said:
I doubt Verizon is getting another HTC phone this year. I'm thinking they were originally going to skip the One and go DNA2 put there's no need for both phones. Verizon is no about giving us options.
Don't forget besides the larger screen with an already rediculous PPI the DNA has an 8mp camera that's capable of taking incredible photos.
With the Sense5 ROMs well be getting tomorrow we'll just be missing "boomSound".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
football confirmed verizon is getting the one maxx...and hes usually right about these things
as for the screen being too big? im sure that would scare many off but im all for it
nitsuj17 said:
football confirmed verizon is getting the one maxx...and hes usually right about these things
as for the screen being too big? im sure that would scare many off but im all for it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am ALL over that 5.9" behemoth! Great to hear there is "confirmed" rumor by a very reliable source.
You are up for porting a Sense 4+ based ROM to it though...right? LOL JK I'll have to learn to live with Blinkfeed I suppose.
And hopefully Moonshine and/or RevOne will still work for that "thing" we all like to do to our phones!
fr4nk1yn said:
I doubt Verizon is getting another HTC phone this year. I'm thinking they were originally going to skip the One and go DNA2 put there's no need for both phones. Verizon is no about giving us options.
Don't forget besides the larger screen with an already rediculous PPI the DNA has an 8mp camera that's capable of taking incredible photos.
With the Sense5 ROMs well be getting tomorrow we'll just be missing "boomSound".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They just launched 3 new moto droids at once and will have the moto x soon (probably about as long of a delay as the One) so they have no problem over saturating.
With the impending 4.3 update with sense 5 the dna will be a totally different phone. So I would wait for the update then wait til the phone losses that new phone feel and then see what's available to upgrade to
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Hey guys. So my upgrade will be in March which isn't far away and I'm looking for a new phone. I'm very disappointed with the gs4 on Verizon since the bootloader is locked. Yes, I have safestrap but I love AOSP vs Touchwiz. I've looked up some phones coming out this year such as gs5 and HTC one+ (m8). I really liked the design of the HTC one and wish I bought that over the gs4. Just wondering what you guys would get next. The gs5 or something different since i almost feel like Samsung is following apple's tracks. Also do you even like the gs4? Let me know what you all think..
rossida said:
Hey guys. So my upgrade will be in March which isn't far away and I'm looking for a new phone. I'm very disappointed with the gs4 on Verizon since the bootloader is locked. Yes, I have safestrap but I love AOSP vs Touchwiz. I've looked up some phones coming out this year such as gs5 and HTC one+ (m8). I really liked the design of the HTC one and wish I bought that over the gs4. Just wondering what you guys would get next. The gs5 or something different since i almost feel like Samsung is following apple's tracks. Also do you even like the gs4? Let me know what you all think..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Love the GS4 (besides the whole bootloader lock down) but I'd be willing to wager that the gs5 will be just as if not more locked down.
gnubian said:
Love the GS4 (besides the whole bootloader lock down) but I'd be willing to wager that the gs5 will be just as if not more locked down.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats what I'm assuming too. So i am guessing you are getting the s5?
Love what S4...what bootloader? I had my best times with the DX and its locked bootloader. This whole BL thing is so overblown with the S4. Repetitive threads and posts about it...it's like a broken record.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Don't like Samsung's attitude toward customers.
Probably won't buy another Samsung device. Like the device, don't like the company.
We'll see with the GS5. I doubt I'll bite.
Having the microSD support is compelling but, I can get by without it now that Meenova has the keychain USB-OTG adapter from microSD cards.
We'll see what LG and HTC come out with.
I like the Sony, but Verizon and Sony are like oil and water.
From all reports, the S5 is going to be a beast. I, for one, plan on picking it up the day it's released.
I'll probably stay with my MDK S4 that's on its way to me for a long while. If that one should break and I need a new one... Hard to say what I'd do. The S4 is awesome, and I'm sure the S5 will be an amazing phone, but like stated above, let's be honest, they're going to have that S5 locked up so tight its probably going to be hard to do anything on it.
If the G2 has the removable battery and external SD card, I'd be all over it.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Mistertac said:
I'll probably stay with my MDK S4 that's on its way to me for a long while. If that one should break and I need a new one... Hard to say what I'd do. The S4 is awesome, and I'm sure the S5 will be an amazing phone, but like stated above, let's be honest, they're going to have that S5 locked up so tight its probably going to be hard to do anything on it.
If the G2 has the removable battery and external SD card, I'd be all over it.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll probably keep my s4 For 2 or 3 years...that's my usual period. Besides, the improvements become less and less.
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
There be a sticky for these discussions...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406733
anthony2131 said:
Hey everyone, bootloader is finally almost done i will be posting thread shortly and will also be posting my perma root solution. I have a post on aicp/lollipop community on google
---------- Post added at 06:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 PM ----------
I am in the final stages of coming out with a apk called PERMA root. It will root while also giving you the option to unlock bootloader. I am testing on two more devices before release. I want to leave nobody unhappy. Therefore any device you may have will work. As new phones are introduced it will only take a couple days to activate from my end. Please be patient because as you already know this is some hard work and long hour testing.
Tested devices: (list includes all carriers) (multiple devices in each listed brand tested to include s4 and s5) Lg, Samsumg, htc, and currently testing last of others. Thanks for the patience.
Be welcome to share accross XDA
[Root][/community][bootloader][/community]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
zerocool79346 said:
Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel you but we can only hope.
zerocool79346 said:
Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me test it
thegamerdarkseid said:
I feel you but we can only hope.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
mmw68666 said:
Let me test it
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not my software and I've got no control over its release, just found it in the S5 forum and figured most over here would want to see even if it is a longshot.
zerocool79346 said:
Not my software and I've got no control over its release, just found it in the S5 forum and figured most over here would want to see even if it is a longshot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Send me the link to the forum
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
mmw68666 said:
Send me the link to the forum
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051
Don't get excited people. That thread has become an all out flame war and I see warnings and/or bans coming instead of root.. Oh well... ?
is he saying that the app will be able to unlock the bootloader on the verizon retail version of the note 3? Can i have the link to that thread? Thanks.
nflwideout86 said:
is he saying that the app will be able to unlock the bootloader on the verizon retail version of the note 3? Can i have the link to that thread? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He was claiming root and bootloader unlock. But instead of getting everyone riled up he probably should have made it a covert job and then "Bam" here you go. Kinda like when the Rezound got s-off. But the thread got way out of control and it's locked now until he can prove he has something substantial. If you'd like to check it out see the first post in this thread and go to original post quote.
While I love the xda community and have been along time member and highly appreciative of the devs.
I'm just about ready to toss this phone in the garbage.
I miss the days of flashing my phone every week to the latest and greatest when I had my original galaxy note for 2 years.
My 2cents
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
mirrin said:
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel the same way about my galaxy bloat 3. First and formost i need a phone that works as a phone. This phone has the worst service and software out of any phone i've owned. As far as the sortware goes i thought i would be able to fix it with cm11 but thanks to verizon and me not doing my home work a head of time i'm stuck with the ****tiest phone i've ever owned. I can't wait for july to replace it with a motorola product.
I must be getting old. I don't see a problem with the stock note 3 and the bloat. Yeah the signal could be better but that is on Samsung more than Verizon. And yes Verizon could shorten the approval process for updates and Samsung could drop tw and put out updates in line with the nexus line as all manufactures should the ui should be a app on the app store and be little more than a launcher for people to choose to use if they want.
Not going to happen. If your on big red you likely don't have a choice or it is the best service in your area or your grandfathered into unlimited. The Samsung phones were the only ones with 2 features I am unable to give up battery that is removable and sd card.
mirrin said:
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this phone doesn't end up with Lollipop that's rootable or an unlocked bootloader before February, I'm throwing mine at my Verizon Rep's face and picking up a Note 4. We bought Note 3's for only two reasons. The first reason was that the other Note's were easy to root and flash to CM and the second reason was because of the S-Pen. At this point I would take a loss on the S-Pen functionality just to be rid of all of the Samsung Bloat on my phones.
Wow. sounds like you all should be buying an international variant. trashing you phone or going to a N4 with a locked bootloader is not going to solve your problem. I am pleased with my Rooted N3 and have no issues and will stay with Samsung for a while. Root is nice but it's not going to cause me to put my phone in the trash, there are other things in life that are far more important
Yeah way to stick it to Samsung by throwing out last quarters model and buying the brand new one.
I see both sides, though we didn't have ten or fifteen roms to flash, this phone was not a waste at all. It's a solid phone for my use. But flashing roms has become a hobby and I don't like not doing that either. So even though most of the developers are going to the Nexus. I just don't like having no SD or removable battery either. And how are they handling any replacements for a phone currently not carried by Big Red? May not be the place for me to ask that but I'm curious.
You might want to check out the Note 4 forum for scripts that can disable a ton of the bloatware without root. I am still rocking rooted MJE so I can't test it with kitkat. It supposedly will run on most android phones. Just wanted to mention a potential solution until root achieved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972263
bentheexo said:
If this phone doesn't end up with Lollipop that's rootable or an unlocked bootloader before February, I'm throwing mine at my Verizon Rep's face and picking up a Note 4. We bought Note 3's for only two reasons. The first reason was that the other Note's were easy to root and flash to CM and the second reason was because of the S-Pen. At this point I would take a loss on the S-Pen functionality just to be rid of all of the Samsung Bloat on my phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So locked note 3 to a locked down note 4 when you are stuck with the options of motorola or sony for unlockable phones that are on verizon.
IF you really have to have CM 12 you are going to have to either make sure the phone you get at that time has an unlockable bl or is a nexus.
And as for the note 4 it is only a slight upgrade over the note 3 and both will someday get lollipop note 4 sooner than the note 3...
alsgarage said:
Yeah way to stick it to Samsung by throwing out last quarters model and buying the brand new one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL
It seems that everything has pretty much gone dark in the development section (exception of HyperDrive).
Does anyone know of any other ports or ROMs for Safestrap users that are still being released or updated? What happened to kexec?
I like my s4 and with a few exceptions want to stay with it for a little while longer. At this point I've been on stock rooted for almost a year and my stability is suffering for some reason. I want to jump to a ROM but it's looking like there is a lot less support and new stuff comming out.
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed
Sadly, once they locked the bootloader all bets were pretty much off...I've had my s4 since launch day and it was amazing, until they locked it down. Hyper drive is the only option pretty much. There are a few s5 ports but I don't find them to be very stable.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
ffchampmt said:
It seems that everything has pretty much gone dark in the development section (exception of HyperDrive).
Does anyone know of any other ports or ROMs for Safestrap users that are still being released or updated? What happened to kexec?
I like my s4 and with a few exceptions want to stay with it for a little while longer. At this point I've been on stock rooted for almost a year and my stability is suffering for some reason. I want to jump to a ROM but it's looking like there is a lot less support and new stuff comming out.
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
EchoeRom is pretty solid too
If stability is an issue, but you are happy with Stock+root. Why not try the normal fixes? Clear the cache, try to track down troublesome apps, backup valuable data and factory reset and so forth...
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
I've been trying. I've got a lot of Xposed modules running.
I didn't want this to be about me, just wondering have the devs jumped ship? Are the other carriers forums active, if anyone participates?
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed
DonateBTC: 12QEBkTb8GWtaYnV8nSQiXWnSPrAG1pob7
ffchampmt said:
I've been trying. I've got a lot of Xposed modules running.
I didn't want this to be about me, just wondering have the devs jumped ship? Are the other carriers forums active, if anyone participates?
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed
DonateBTC: 12QEBkTb8GWtaYnV8nSQiXWnSPrAG1pob7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel you, man. I'm glad I could at least get root and all, but I still feel a bit screwed that they locked down the device I PAID them for.
It also sucks to see how GREAT the stuff for the non locked phones is. Sigh.
Pretty much came to a halt when nexus 6 was usable on Verizon. Why develope for a crippled phone if you don't have too.
Sent from S4 using the worst jacked up version of Tapatalk to date
Any word on if Verizon will retail the Nexus 6? I know they are really adverse to unlockable bootloaders.
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed
You can buy one from Google or Motorola at full price and get it to work on Verizon with some Sim card swapping. Word is February 26 will be the Verizon in store release but who knows. If I didn't have unlimited data or another carrier besides att in my area I would leave Verizon.
Sent from S4 using the worst jacked up version of Tapatalk to date
drewsephvladmir said:
I feel you, man. I'm glad I could at least get root and all, but I still feel a bit screwed that they locked down the device I PAID them for.
It also sucks to see how GREAT the stuff for the non locked phones is. Sigh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why did you pay outright for the locked version of the phone when there was a dev edition available? Lol.
scryan said:
Why did you pay outright for the locked version of the phone when there was a dev edition available? Lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not addressed to me but my reasons were that I was noob at customizing. This is really my first smart phone and I've learned a lot in this time frame.
I can imagine the subsidy was the reason why most people bought this phone. I couldn't have dropped $600 on a phone at the time. Learned my lesson the hard way though.
Sent from my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4 w/ GEL and Xposed