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I have question about security. I have to know what options are there to find out sms conversation. I use Handcent sms in which I use privacy box with one person to determine that noone else except me would know what we are texting about. But one thing happened. Third person know what exactly we are texting about, even if I constantly deleted sms everyday. I can't imagine the way how he find out this.
I study software development so about security I know something. I know that handcent saves database of sms even if they are deleted or not. I used sqlite to find out what is exactly in the db and find out, that this is not right way how he find out. I also find out that in handcent autobackup option was checked, but noticed that when you delete sms, backup file changed and there were only sms i intented to be there. I also tried antivirus programs to find out if there is some kind of malware or trojan, nothing found.
So my question is: what options of finding out sms conversation are there? Even if third person can access mentioned mobile phone or not?
I will appreciate any good advice
EJAX said:
Greetings to everyone
I have question about security. I have to know what options are there to find out sms conversation. I use Handcent sms in which I use privacy box with one person to determine that noone else except me would know what we are texting about. But one thing happened. Third person know what exactly we are texting about, even if I constantly deleted sms everyday. I can't imagine the way how he find out this.
I study software development so about security I know something. I know that handcent saves database of sms even if they are deleted or not. I used sqlite to find out what is exactly in the db and find out, that this is not right way how he find out. I also find out that in handcent autobackup option was checked, but noticed that when you delete sms, backup file changed and there were only sms i intented to be there. I also tried antivirus programs to find out if there is some kind of malware or trojan, nothing found.
So my question is: what options of finding out sms conversation are there? Even if third person can access mentioned mobile phone or not?
I will appreciate any good advice
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Was it a known person? Or a random person? If he was a friend/person you know, then he either heard through the grape vine or got your phone or the person you were textings phone. I dont think there is a way to "hack" your phone from a computer and view the texts you sent. Unless he got them from your carrier.
elesbb said:
Was it a known person? Or a random person? If he was a friend/person you know, then he either heard through the grape vine or got your phone or the person you were textings phone. I dont think there is a way to "hack" your phone from a computer and view the texts you sent. Unless he got them from your carrier.
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Yes, it was person we both know. He had access to the phone, but with deleted sms with no backup.. It's possible to get this informartion through mobile operator?
EJAX said:
Yes, it was person we both know. He had access to the phone, but with deleted sms with no backup.. It's possible to get this informartion through mobile operator?
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Yes it is but would need to go through tones of red tape and have to be a Cop of some kind.
Most likely it was who ever you were texting. There are also other ways that it could happen. Apps that forward all texts to another number used to be a big one back in windows mobile days. Not sure if there is an app like that for android
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zelendel said:
Yes it is but would need to go through tones of red tape and have to be a Cop of some kind.
Most likely it was who ever you were texting. There are also other ways that it could happen. Apps that forward all texts to another number used to be a big one back in windows mobile days. Not sure if there is an app like that for android
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It's probably the problem that this person has a friend which works for vodafone which this phone uses. Forwarding all texts is not possible i think, because this person would catch up on this earlier..
EJAX said:
It's probably the problem that this person has a friend which works for vodafone which this phone uses. Forwarding all texts is not possible i think, because this person would catch up on this earlier..
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There used to be an app that could be installed that did all this with the user even knowing about it. Once installed it was hidden away and it never showed that the messages would be forwarded. It was a proof of concept app that someone made for learning. If they had someone working for the company it would have to be a higher up to have access to the cached data bases the company keeps which are encrypted.
I have a feeling the OP was ratted out by the one they were texting.
zelendel said:
There used to be an app that could be installed that did all this with the user even knowing about it. Once installed it was hidden away and it never showed that the messages would be forwarded. It was a proof of concept app that someone made for learning. If they had someone working for the company it would have to be a higher up to have access to the cached data bases the company keeps which are encrypted.
I have a feeling the OP was ratted out by the one they were texting.
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Ok, thank you for your advice. So if there is hidden app registered as service it can be seen through logcat when I intent to send sms, am I right?
About the company, this person works here on higher places, dont realy know what is his position some kind of IT specialist, gonna investigate this..
Hello,
I'm considering the idea of getting a Gmate+(http://www.skyroam.com/) for my SGP5 but I have one remaining question. Ive searched all over the internet and couldnt find any answers so it must not be a big problem.
1. Will the gmate app notify me of sms/calls on my SGP or will i always have to go by the vibration on the gmate?
2. If the app wont notify me...is there a toggle switch or someway to disable the vibration on the gmate when i dont want it?
Because if the app will notify me then I'll just be getting the plain Gmate without vibration.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Nevermind...i found my answer soon after posting haha
Number 27 at http://www.skyroam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83&..
As an owner of the Gmate+, I'd be happy to answer any questions you had about it, as I've had mine for some time. The app is a bit rough around the edges, it doesn't have nearly the polish of the android apps for phone and testing, but they work. Texts and calls pop up notifications on the SGP, with calls acting like a standard phone call on a smartphone, taking over the lock screen, etc. it also causes the SGP to vibrate or make whatever noise it makes for a notification. The GMate also vibrates, but it is loud, and quite piercing, as the device is very small and light. this, however, can be turned off. There are a number of checkboxes which dictate when the Gmate will vibrate, such as a connection, incoming call, texts, etc. One other thing is that I've never been able to get the web browsing to work, and the more I look into it, the more it looks like a bug with samsung devices on Gingerbread, so having an ICS rom might fix that, the other thing you need to keep in mind is that the app says it's not compatible for a reason, it will disconnect every 5 minutes or so, when the device goes to sleep and shuts bluetooth off, but at app I found called Bluetooth KeepAlive fixed that, even though it was a couple bucks, I think it was worth it.
Sorry for the wall of text, but in summary I guess is that the Gmate works and is a good device, but it's a little rough in how it's used and there are a few hoops you have to jump through to get it to work.
Hi,
Thanks that helped a lot silentdoh!
So where are the options for vibration? Are they in the app i assume? Because i looked all through the settings and didnt find them.
And im on cm10.1 and i got the app from the play store so it was all compatible it said
So do u think the Plus is worth it for the vibration or not?
crash831 said:
Hi,
Thanks that helped a lot silentdoh!
So where are the options for vibration? Are they in the app i assume? Because i looked all through the settings and didnt find them.
And im on cm10.1 and i got the app from the play store so it was all compatible it said
So do u think the Plus is worth it for the vibration or not?
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I believe the app shows the option when you have the Gmate+ connected, because why have the option when the other device doesn't support it? When I got it, there was no difference in price, it really depends if you can deal with an annoying vibration noise, most of the time I just turn it off, but it is nice to know when it's connected if you can't look at your SGP. I personally don't use mine anymore, but I still love it as a backup, one thing to note is that it is not compatible with 3G speeds, so you'll be using 2G the whole time, and that it uses a standard sim card, not a microsim. Also, the signal is not too great, I sometimes have issues with service unless I take the Gmate out with my phone as I answer or send a text, not sure if there's any way to fix that.
Thanks for all your information. It helped me a lot to decide what to do. As of now im gonna hold off and just see how everything works on my new dumbphone.
Would it at all be possible to port this feature(http://support-us.samsung.com/spsn/detail.jsp?ctg_id=209&sub_ctg_id=&live_id=8) to the galaxy player 5? For me it would be an OK alternative to the Gmate.
Would this be a simple ROM port or would it require more then that?
I would port the ROM myself if i knew it would work, but right now I use my Galaxy for work and and everyday personal stuff and cm10.1 doesnt backup in cwmSso im not going to try until i get more opinions and the feature would be really nice on cm10.1! Any thoughts?
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Would it at all be possible to port this feature(http://support-us.samsung.com/spsn/detail.jsp?ctg_id=209&sub_ctg_id=&live_id=8) to the galaxy player 5? For me it would be an OK alternative to the Gmate.
Would this be a simple ROM port or would it require more then that?
I would port the ROM myself if i knew it would work, but right now I use my Galaxy for work and and everyday personal stuff and cm10.1 doesnt backup in cwmSso im not going to try until i get more opinions and the feature would be really nice on cm10.1! Any thoughts?
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If you're talking about Bluetooth pairing then there is an app on Samsung apps market. If you don't have that I have an apk that I could send you
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SerkTheTurk said:
If you're talking about Bluetooth pairing then there is an app on Samsung apps market. If you don't have that I have an apk that I could send you
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I was talking about pairing my Samsung Flight II dumphone with my SGP5.0 so that any calls i get on my phone wil come to my GP. This way i could answer calls with my player without having to take out my dumbphone.
If you have an apk for that...i would sure like to have it.
Does anyone know anything about this device? http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_dualblue.php#11
It looks like a healthy alternative to the gmate cause it looks like its been more kept up to date then the Gmate. They have videos of it working on the S4 and the HTC One even
crash831 said:
I was talking about pairing my Samsung Flight II dumphone with my SGP5.0 so that any calls i get on my phone wil come to my GP. This way i could answer calls with my player without having to take out my dumbphone.
If you have an apk for that...i would sure like to have it.
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Here is the apk from the samsung apps market
Hey...thanks for the apk! But when i try to install it it says "app not installed"
Any ideas?
crash831 said:
Hey...thanks for the apk! But when i try to install it it says "app not installed"
Any ideas?
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Hmm, not sure.. What ROM are you running? And maybe it only works on stock Samsung firmware? not sure
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Hmm, not sure.. What ROM are you running? And maybe it only works on stock Samsung firmware? not sure
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Yea good point...im on cm10.1 and its probably only coded to work with 2.3 But thanks a ton!
If i do go back to GB what all features does this app have?
Can i actually make calls from my galaxy without taking my dumbphone out of my pocket?
And i will for sure recieve all calls to my galaxy right?
crash831 said:
Yea good point...im on cm10.1 and its probably only coded to work with 2.3 But thanks a ton!
If i do go back to GB what all features does this app have?
Can i actually make calls from my galaxy without taking my dumbphone out of my pocket?
And i will for sure recieve all calls to my galaxy right?
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Yeah, all you have to do is put your "dumbphone" in your pocket and you make and receive calls from the player as long as your connected via bluetooth
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Yeah, all you have to do is put your "dumbphone" in your pocket and you make and receive calls from the player as long as your connected via bluetooth
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Wow! thats awesome! Im backing up apps and then im going back to stock. I sure hope it works!
crash831 said:
Wow! thats awesome! Im backing up apps and then im going back to stock. I sure hope it works!
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Best of luck!
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ok been reading for hours for a third time... this time for more specific fixes/info...
i have a SM-N900v Verizon Note 3 on Straight Talk using AT&T towers.
took a little bit to get the right settings but its up and running. the stock settings on strait talk did not work.
anyways been using it for a few weeks now and for the most part works but here are the issues ide like to solve...
Contacts not working...
numbers comming in all have a + in front of them and are treated as international numbers +xxx-xxx-xxxx. with this the numbers dont match my contacts list so i dont see who is comming in and i cant just hit and call back.
* tried prefixer app doesnt work
* tried many settings in the call settings/assisted dialing there were 2 settings that seem3ed wrong and i fixed an left...city/area code was 157 i set 570 and national number length was 11 i set to 10
* Installed Twitch Contacts and had it clean up and change all my contacts to (National Format) (xxx) xxx-xxxx and all my incomming calls had contact names!! i thought i solved it... but not only did those calls call out as international but all my contacts anyplace did.. (sigh) so switched my contacts back to (International Format) +1 xxx-xxx-xxxx then i can dial fine but incomming numbers dont show or match up with my contacts again and they dial as internation calls.
* Changed fr4om global to manual and chose the at&t tower. nope.. changed back.
another issue
Phone Activation this sim card is from an unknown source...
i can kill it but comes back everytijme i start. can this be my issue with contacts? maybe it thinks im from outside usa since it can id the sim?
and...
Voice Mail Update...
Wont Go Away!!!! i have to kill it!!!
im not dumb... maybe real ignorant concerning cell phones... i have a computer repair shop and been in business 18+ years and i need to learn alot more since phones and tablets seem to be the computers of the future... and im already doing screen repairs but i need to learn more... so here i am... learn me =]
Not sure about the solution for the contacts, but for the SIM notification, if you are rooted, then you can freeze the VZW Setup Wizard app and that'll kill that. It might even help with the other situation, though not sure. If you aren't rooted, then killing it after each reboot is the only option.
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Not sure about the solution for the contacts, but for the SIM notification, if you are rooted, then you can freeze the VZW Setup Wizard app and that'll kill that. It might even help with the other situation, though not sure. If you aren't rooted, then killing it after each reboot is the only option.
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ive never rooted a phone. can i trust towelroot? and what measures do i need to take to secure myself after i root?
it seems like after i root my note 3 there sould be a config file someplace i can change that would remove the + or at least set it to +1 wich i also think might fix this.
Jabooma said:
ive never rooted a phone. can i trust towelroot? and what measures do i need to take to secure myself after i root?
it seems like after i root my note 3 there sould be a config file someplace i can change that would remove the + or at least set it to +1 wich i also think might fix this.
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Yea, Towelroot is safe. It only works on those phones with the kernel date that is June or older. You'll want to install SuperSu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu so apps can't get root permissions without you allowing it. You'll probably need to use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux if freezing or renaming the apk (I don't recommend uninstalling because you might need it again later) doesn't stick after rebooting. If you are worried about root after that (I wouldn't, but personal preference), you should be able to uninstall everything and use SuperSU to unroot and nothing else will be affected. This method won't trip Knox so your warranty won't be affected.
but i still havent found a fix for this... does anyone have know what files i need to edeit to fix this?
I keep getting an error whenever someone sends me a picture message, saying the message was not downloaded, tap to retry. Tapping to retry does nothing, and then I'll get the same error notification several times a day, until I just go and delete the failed picture download. In many or all cases tho, the picture actually does download. I'm on T-Mobile but haven't had this error for years on several different phones..... just the Tmo V30. Anyone else?
I'm getting the same thing on my T-Mobile V30+ is super annoying. I have no idea what is causing it.
Have either of you disabled anything using a package disabler or ADB?
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Have either of you disabled anything using a package disabler or ADB?
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I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
YrrchSebor said:
I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
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My TMobile V30+ delays texts of all kinds. IDK why and it happens at random. My z2 force hasn't delayed any since I've gotten it.
20degrees said:
My TMobile V30+ delays texts of all kinds. IDK why and it happens at random. My z2 force hasn't delayed any since I've gotten it.
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You know, I have noticed a delay at times on sending sms too!
YrrchSebor said:
I had disabled Android Pay for some reason, so i went ahead and re-enabled it. I had only used the settings within the phone to do that tho. Do you think it could be something like that?
We aren't the only ones, I posted this on Reddit V30 sub and a few others chimed in with the same problem. I haven't managed to find out if everyone is on T-Mobile.
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No, disabling Android Pay by using settings in the phone wouldn't cause that issue with texts.
The only reason I'm asking if because a few times when people have complained about stuff not working -- like Always On Display and other things -- turns out they used package disabler or ADB (using the same vague package disabler descriptions) to disable/remove what they thought was "bloatware" but was really stuff they wanted to work.
Or caused severe lag, because the phone apparently looks for what's missing before giving up. It's ironic people are slowing their own phones down...
1) a lot of things are interconnected.
2) true bloatware isn't labelled "this is useless", with important stuff labeled "this is important".
Right now there's a case where a guy and his wife both have T-Mobile LG V30, on T-Mobile with the same plan, same exact firmware. But one has VoLTE grayed out while the other doesn't, and one dialer doesn't show voicemail icon while the other does. He used the package disabler to disable some services and apps, but we don't know why they're different if he disabled the same things? He also doesn't know what to re-enable to get everything back.
But it sounds like that's not the reason in your case.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
No, disabling Android Pay by using settings in the phone wouldn't cause that issue with texts.
The only reason I'm asking if because a few times when people have complained about stuff not working -- like Always On Display and other things -- turns out they used package disabler or ADB (using the same vague package disabler descriptions) to disable remove what they thought was "bloatware" but was really stuff they wanted to work.
Or caused severe lag, because the phone apparently looks for what's missing before giving up. It's ironic people are slowing their own phones down...
1) a lot of things are interconnected.
2) true bloatware isn't labelled "this is useless" with important stuff labeled "this is important"
Right now there's a case where a guy and his wife both have T-Mobile LG V30, on T-Mobile with the same plan, same exact firmware. But one has VoLTE grayed out and one dialer doesn't show voicemail icon while the other does. He used the package disabler to disable some services and apps, but we don't know why they're different if he disabled the same things? He also doesn't know what to re-enable to get everything back.
But it sounds like that's not the reason in your case.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Yes, gotcha. I've kinda been there, done that haha. In the past. These days I don't do much to my phone, just let it be and work like normal. Well, hopefully it works anyway
Same issue on T-Mobile v30+.... sometimes MMS/photos fail and offers "retry" only to fail again.... doesn't happen all the time....usually on 5 or more mb images.
What's strange is that it seems like I sometimes get the picture AND a failed message. Like if somebody sends me two pictures, I'll get the two pictures and two failed messages. So I'll I wonder if maybe they sent me four pictures, but when I ask they tell me they sent me two. Weird
YrrchSebor said:
I keep getting an error whenever someone sends me a picture message, saying the message was not downloaded, tap to retry. Tapping to retry does nothing, and then I'll get the same error notification several times a day, until I just go and delete the failed picture download. In many or all cases tho, the picture actually does download. I'm on T-Mobile but haven't had this error for years on several different phones..... just the Tmo V30. Anyone else?
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I was not able to receive any mms messages until I added my phone number in the advanced tab of the stock messaging app.
If you haven't tried this, maybe it's worth a shot.
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I was not able to receive any mms messages until I added my phone number in the advanced tab of the stock messaging app.
If you haven't tried this, maybe it's worth a shot.
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Where exactly in the advanced tab did you put your phone number?
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Where exactly in the advanced tab did you put your phone number?
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Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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Interesting. In the stock messaging app, I don't see anything like that. T-Mobile V30, H93210d, Android 7.1.2
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Interesting. In the stock messaging app, I don't see anything like that. T-Mobile V30, H93210d, Android 7.1.2
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Claro Puerto Rico V30 LGH932PR nougat 7.1.2
poncespr said:
Go to settings and select advanced. At the very bottom you will see PHONE NUMBER.
On my phone it said unknown. When I clicked on it, it opened a window to enter the number.
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This doesn't look like the stock V30 messaging app? At least not the one on my T-Mobile V30 either. Reminds me of the Google messaging app?
YrrchSebor said:
This doesn't look like the stock V30 messaging app? At least not the one on my T-Mobile V30 either. Reminds me of the Google messaging app?
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It's a carrier locked phone from Claro latin America. They seem to be using mostly stock google apps except for the dialer. Gallery and music have both LG and Google versions.. I have not used any other V30 so I thought all other carrier versions were the same.
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It's a carrier locked phone from Claro latin America. They seem to be using mostly stock google apps except for the dialer. Gallery and music have both LG and Google versions.. I have not used any other V30 so I thought all other carrier versions were the same.
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Ah gotcha, interesting. The models I've seen here in the states have all LG apps
Same thing here
Hey all. I have had the same issue from the first week I got both my V30's and I am on T-Mobile as well. I went to the store and they tried every troubleshooting step they could and tried every combination of settings. I am using the stock messaging app and even with a third party google messages app, it still happens so I think it's a T-Mobile issue. They had tech support call me which was not very helpful because they tried doing the same steps the store did and I should mention I worked for Verizon Tech for ten years so I kind of know my way around a phone. I went and completed a master reset and restored nothing at all, and it still happened. I changed the sim like T-Mobile said and still the same. I connected my phone to my PC and used LG software upgrade and repair tool after the new software was available and still the same. Went back to the store and they are going to send me a warranty replacement even though it is happening on both my phones. T-Mobile is not acknowledging this issue and if this warranty replacement has the same problem, I will take it to the next step and report it to the BBB.
Any updates? Having same issues. Changed sms to mms and vice versa but still no change. Picture messages fail to download regardless of size even at 900 kb. People say they get my messages 5-10 minutes after I send to them. My group messages seem to be on a huge delay in receiving and sending.
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Who bought this phone I mean? It looks like no one seems to care about this phone. Its all over youtube but, everyone seems to be doing the same thing, unboxing it. I was hoping I could get some attention to this phone so I can talk to others. Anyone plan on purchasing this phone? If so, tell me why, if not I also wanna know about that to.
Guess it is still early stage release for this phone, not many ppl got it. Youtube reviewer could get early shipped unit usually.
I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.
I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.
Spyrobuddy said:
I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.
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Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?
toliveforever said:
I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.
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Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.
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Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.
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Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.
toliveforever said:
Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.
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Ive got the Chinese rom but, I gotta be honest, im on the edge of switching back to my 12 Pro Max. I love the customization of android, and unless I start removing apps via ADB I dont think im going to keep the phone. I mean, iPhone has little to no customization but you expect that. When it comes to android, I expect to be able to make my phone the way I want and because of the way Lenovo has the rom set up, I cant seem to do much of anything. I cant fully run Nova Launcher, use Google contacts or Google phone. Lenovo locks everything down so much that it takes all the fun out of it. How do you feel about Legion UI?
I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.
toliveforever said:
I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.
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That would be a thought, instead of just returning the phone. My only issue with that is it takes longer to get updates with the global rom. Do you have global running on your phone or are you using stock?
Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).
I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.
dEFLASH said:
Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).
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dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.
toliveforever said:
I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.
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Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?
Phaze1585 said:
dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.
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Tried a change APN, it's working OK with DATA via 4G only, voice still not working for incoming calls.
About a flashing global ROM afraid to get a brick or lost some parts like fingertip scanner or IMEI.
Anyway send me info in PM or just right there, wanna check it.
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Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?
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I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.
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I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.
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So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?
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So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?
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I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.
toliveforever said:
I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.
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Interesting. So, were you able to get a launcher to work for you or do you just use the stock laucnher?
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?
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I'm in Canada. Using telus only freedom works. I can Hotspot data from the phone because it has hotspot apn settings but not regular ones. Trying to root but I can't get fastboot to detect it.