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Is it possible to power an HTC HD2 without a battery or the back cover? I found one about an hour ago in my downtown area, missing a SIM card and missing the microSD card. As noted it doesn't have a back cover or a battery, so my intention was to attach a "standard" 5V/1A cell phone battery charger. I figured out from a picture of the battery that if I've got the HD2 flat on the display and I'm looking at the back, the positive terminal will be the one on the left but, when I attach the power supply (which I tested before this attempt, it works) leads using micro-alligator clips and push the power button (front of display, button furthest on the right, I think, never used one of these HD2's before) I get no response.
Now, the question is either a) am I not getting any response at all because the HD2 can't be powered up in this manner because there's no back cover or b) it's more likely to be completely toast because of the damage it apparently suffered in the drop that shattered the glass. The only damage (aside from the glass) is a very tiny scrape/scuff mark on the top right corner of the bezel - obviously that's where it hit the ground.
I don't own any of these apparently micro-USB style connectors (or is it mini-USB, I can't figure out which is which I suppose). Bleh, I just looked at a pic I found with Google Images, apparently it IS a micro-USB connector.
All blabbering aside, even if I had such a connector or a power supply using such a connector, is the phone going to even power up without a back cover on it or battery inside? I know a lot of devices become totally disabled when the back cover is removed (as my Dell Axim X51v does; as soon as I even throw the lock switch to unlock the back cover that disables the device totally.
Anyone able to provide some tips or suggestions? I have no way of knowing who it belongs to so I'm claiming it, and if I can verify it might work or does still function I might be willing to put some money into getting the glass/digitizer replaced, a new battery, power adapter, etc.
Anything at all would probably be quite helpful.
Thanks...
The HD2 works without back cover!
The HD2 doesnt work without battery...!! I've never heard of a mod to enable switching it on through micro-usb.
Be carefull you could be scammed...buying a phone in that state, because of the hit some other components may be damaged!! It depends on the price and money you're willing to risk!
no problem with powering on without the backcover. did that many times before.
but i guess its not possible without a battery...
DN41
Ah, ok, so the fact that there's the two metal 'dots' on the HD2 that apparently become a connection when the metal battery cover is in place don't affect powering it up, but no battery keeps it dead? Hrmmm...
Ok, if someone that owns an HD2 can confirm that it becomes very useful info. Take the back cover off, take the battery out, and tell me if plugging in a micro-USB cable (either from a computer USB port or from the AC adapter) allows it to function at all, and then try the same thing with the cover on (don't put the battery in, however).
So there's 3 possibilities:
1) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no battery and no cover
2) It'll work off the micro-USB power with just the cover installed but no battery
3) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no cover but with a battery installed
and actually the fourth possibility which doesn't matter in my case:
4) It'll work off the micro-USB power with the cover and the battery installed
Dammit I hate it when I find stuff like this and can't get it functional.
Again, thanks for any suggestions - and I didn't buy this phone, I found it a few hours ago, on the ground as I was walking home. I wouldn't buy something in this cosmetic condition unless I knew it was working even in spite of the cracked glass. I've owned iPhones with horribly shattered glass on them but they still function, even all the multitouch functionality is still working - that's my hope here, that this device will still work just fine and if it does then I'll pay to replace the glass/digitizer.
Thanks
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I think I just realized that the metal contacts on the inside of the back cover and those 'dots' could be because the HD2 is using that battery cover as a Wi-Fi antenna, plate-style antenna.
I just tested it for you. Without the battery in there is no starting it, period.
Might I suggest though that you ask around and find a mate with a microUSB, (you must have someone that has one), and plug it in when the battery contacts are jumped. It will probably work that way. I'm not going to try it because I have a perfectly good phone and have always mistrusted elec-trickery...
those spring loaded studs have been the subject of much discussion, with no definitive answer,, stop the cover rattling, grounding plate for the antenna, remnants of an unreleased car kit,,, who knows. certainly signal doesn't appear diminished with the cover off, and on the inside of the cover there is no coating on the metal where they connect, indicating a signal being passed so who knows.
i suspect simply attaching power to two contacts isn't enough because the third contact is expecting a signal of some kind? perhaps a connection from the battery charge protection circuits?
you could always buy a cheap copy battery from ebay, and just resell it if it doesn't work, or run a scam on your insurance with it? (did i just say that out loud??)
I'll say this again: I found the phone on the ground on the side of the street while walking home a few hours ago.
I don't use T-Mobile service and I have no intentions of using it as a phone; I already have a phone so I was going to use it as a portable media player sorta like an iPod touch if I can verify it works 100% and just needs a battery/back cover/replacement glass and digitizer. That's my intention at this point.
And I was thinking that yes it won't work at all without a battery so, thanks again for the info. I'll head out this morning to a T-Mobile store (actual T-Mobile and not a reseller) and see what they can tell me. Surely they'll have a battery/back cover and potentially an AC adapter to verify if it's 100% dead of somewhat functional even in spite of the busted glass.
Let's hope it works...
what about searching the owner?
DN41
Well, let's see:
- I can't power it up
- It has no SIM card
- It has no microSD card
- The only way to track the owner would be using the IMEI and I'd have to go to a T-Mobile store to do that, when that's done and they get the number, if the phone was stolen and then dumped in the trash/on the street where I found it, they call the police and I get in a bit of trouble for no good reason
That pretty much covers it.
okay, you're right...
i cant imagine how it landed there...
who would throw it just away?
sure that its a real phone and not a dummy?
DN41
DN41 said:
okay, you're right...
i cant imagine how it landed there...
who would throw it just away?
sure that its a real phone and not a dummy?
DN41
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i was in a thread yesterday where some guy talked about how he dropped his phone by accident whilst 'driving along with it in his hand, with his arm out of teh window', so yea, some people are , , well, insert your own noun here
oh no...how can you hold your arm out of the windows with a 500€ phone in your hand?
i just cant understand some people...that doestn go in my mind...
DN41
samsamuel said:
i was in a thread yesterday where some guy talked about how he dropped his phone by accident whilst 'driving along with it in his hand, with his arm out of teh window', so yea, some people are , , well, insert your own noun here
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I thought the same!
br0adband said:
they call the police and I get in a bit of trouble for no good reason
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Not really mate. I found an iphone 4 yesterday and managed to get it back to its rightful owner. Took a couple of hours out of my day but what else could i do?
sike222 said:
Not really mate. I found an iphone 4 yesterday and managed to get it back to its rightful owner. Took a couple of hours out of my day but what else could i do?
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Well, Yeah, with an iPhone 4 what else WOULD you do if you don't want the surgery to be able to use it! LOL
Also think if it was your phone! I'd be absolutely gutted, and very glad to get it back. But maybe it's unregistered (through the IMEI) or not been reported as missing.
In the UK (don't know about elsewhere) if you report that you found something to the police (I found a £50 note) and no one can show that they own it then it's yours after about 28 days.
Unless you have really dumb cops then you shouldn't get into trouble if you take it in!
On the other hand you may find the battery and/or cover if you look carefully in the area where you found the phone.
Sam.
br0adband said:
Ah, ok, so the fact that there's the two metal 'dots' on the HD2 that apparently become a connection when the metal battery cover is in place don't affect powering it up, but no battery keeps it dead? Hrmmm...
Ok, if someone that owns an HD2 can confirm that it becomes very useful info. Take the back cover off, take the battery out, and tell me if plugging in a micro-USB cable (either from a computer USB port or from the AC adapter) allows it to function at all, and then try the same thing with the cover on (don't put the battery in, however).
So there's 3 possibilities:
1) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no battery and no cover
2) It'll work off the micro-USB power with just the cover installed but no battery
3) It'll work off the micro-USB power with no cover but with a battery installed
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Thanks
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I think I just realized that the metal contacts on the inside of the back cover and those 'dots' could be because the HD2 is using that battery cover as a Wi-Fi antenna, plate-style antenna.
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I think those contacts are just to ground the back cover to stop it causing interference. It doesn't seem to affect the phone if I don't have it on or am using the plastic cover with my big battery.
On a similar theme, does anyone know if it is possible to power the HD2 from the micro USB supply while I swap batteries. I don't want to have to do a soft reset which loses what you are doing. But I'm worried that without the battery to absorb the power there is a risk of damaging the circuits?
I don't want to just try it because I already blew my main board by powering the USB through a cheep adapter and a Nokia charger that supplied too much power and had I to get it repaired/replaced. I'm hoping someone already knows
Sam
samsamuel said:
i was in a thread yesterday where some guy talked about how he dropped his phone by accident whilst 'driving along with it in his hand, with his arm out of teh window', so yea, some people are , , well, insert your own noun here
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did we ever get an answer as to why that, im going to select the noun "twat" was dangling his hd2 out of the window @ 40mph??
I need closure on that one.....
My atrix won't power on (dropped in water); I have had it in dried rice, placed in a zip bag, and sun dried....before all that I immediately removed the battery and shook out whatever water i could. I've waited a full day but still no luck; if I remove the battery and plug in to PC with battery removed I get green LED but other than that I get nothing (for example if I switch to wall charger immediately the LED goes out). If at worst case I need a replacement, how difficult would it be to have this done without the AT&T purchase receipt (I'm not an AT&T customer)? I purchased the item on eBay a little over a month ago. I've read in forums to unroot before attempting return but that's not gonna happen (lol). My girlfriend hates that I even got an atrix so she's kinda happy this happened...a little off topic here, but I really love my atrix so can someone please help me out?!
43 views and no help?
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43 views and no help?
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Well, no help cuz no solution is available. Your phone is screwed and if it fell into water, the water seals must be screwed up as well and guarantee is void.
Think about it
Well the green LED comes on when plugged into USB like I said...but other than that nothing...I can't find the OEM charger adapter of all the times to be lost. I guess since other threads were successful in revival I would have hoped I would get lucky. Thank you for your reply.
They will know it's been in water by the sensors. They will also know you didn't buy from them. Best bet is insurance if you have it, but I think you are out of luck.
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i jumped in the river about 2 weeks ago and completely forgot i had my atrix in my pocket. i would say it was about a good 5 mins underwater. Water damage sign appeared on atrix as well as battery. (red dot). i did the rice thing too..but nothing. unless you're insured..which i was..theres nothing you can do. sorry for your loss.
Does anyone have a general idea of how much it would cost to have the board replaced then?
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Does anyone have a general idea of how much it would cost to have the board replaced then?
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http://www.portatronics.com/product_info.php?info=p2520_Motorola-Atrix-Motherboard.html
Is that USD? H%*LY *^&%!! But that doesn't look like the board that I've seen
funny. i looked up the same info as you are. That link is what a friend of mine sent me. so im not to sure. maybe someone here with better knowledge can help you out.
Cheaper to buy a new phone!
You're guessing/assuming it is the board/just the board.
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Cheaper to buy a new phone!
You're guessing/assuming it is the board/just the board.
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Actually I sat and thought about it and there's the fingerprint and camera to also take into consideration, as well has other functionalities just didn't post. I'm in between studying Windows Server 2008 , watching TV, and just randomly doing other things. Thanks to you all for your help though. I may just try to find an atrix with just a broken screen or just forget about it all together. I've only had the phone for 3 weeks but stuff happens, consider it $500 down the drain .
Disassemble it, take a look at it, remove the corrosion manually. Use a heatgun on the components, but dont overheat it. Afterwards put together and check if battery still has power with a multimeter. Reassemble and plug into wall charger. See what happens
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Disassemble it, take a look at it, remove the corrosion manually. Use a heatgun on the components, but dont overheat it. Afterwards put together and check if battery still has power with a multimeter. Reassemble and plug into wall charger. See what happens
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I say this is your best bet. Try this, or get someone with some electronics knowledge to take a look.
It beats just tossing it.
Either that or put it up on ebay and try to recoup some money. someone with a broken screen, or camera might want to buy it for parts.
My girlfriend's Note started acting weird. When she plugs in the charger it randomly stops and starts, sometimes for periods of seconds, sometimes minutes. We checked every combination of cord and charger (AC and car), and they all do the same. We both cleaned out the charger port, but that didn't have any effect. As a matter of fact, just sitting there motionless on the table it will still randomly start and stop charging.
I also noticed that the battery level seems to be off. At one point it was down to maybe 20% (in the yellow). I rebooted and it was up to 30 (in the green). I don't have any real numbers, it was only something I noticed. It's not rooted so I couldn't clear out the battery stats. Instead I drained it down to 0%, charged it all the way to full while it was off. It seemed to help for a day, but the problem came back later.
Could it be battery? Or phone? She has at&t insurance on it, and we're going to run to the (official) store. I just don't know if they send it back or replace it. She can't really be without a phone, so I'm hoping it's the battery (unless they want to replace the phone on the spot).
All we know is you have an at&t phone. What have you done to it?
same problem with Samsung Galaxy Note
Hi there everyone, i'm having the exact the same problem and my galaxy note is acting just like that- weird !!
About two months ago I updated to ICS and after that no issues, only once did it not charge as it was supposed to until i turned it off, removed the battery and put it back in.
Only now has it been charging like explained above -- the charging process as well as battery indications would be very inconsistent -- that is to say, it would charge for some time and then stop unexpectedly, whether turned on or off during the process.
Also, recently my PC would not recognize the phone on Windows 7 anymore, whereas before that it had been recognized seamlessly.
I've been using my galaxy note for about 8 months now, as well as about 2 months on ICS, and only now has there been this persistent issue.
Also, I did not use it inappropriately, rather with extreme care. I also got a phone case and have been using orginal software and hardware only, so the phone has been properly handled.
However, I have been using it pretty much, so it might be "wear and tear" in terms of battery usage, even more so, because it's been regularly charging and discharging in the car or at home, at the same time. Still, what surprises me is that my PC would not recognize it anymore even when it's turned on. Then, at times it would also go to "car mode", although it is not connected to the car dock. These issues have come up just now, as well, so i can imagine it might be a software or even port-related issue.
Unfortunately, at this moment I cannot take it to the store i bought it from to have them check the phone, so that's why I'm trying to figure out the problem myself. After all, if it's software or battery-related i might be able to fix it without having it replaced.
The phone is not branded and free to use with any carrier.
@ Face of Boe:
Did you go to the store then and have it replaced or was it in fact the battery, or did they (you) fix the problem otherwise?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Chris
Try your preferred mobile repair shop first.
Face Of Boe said:
My girlfriend's Note started acting weird. When she plugs in the charger it randomly stops and starts, sometimes for periods of seconds, sometimes minutes. We checked every combination of cord and charger (AC and car), and they all do the same. We both cleaned out the charger port, but that didn't have any effect. As a matter of fact, just sitting there motionless on the table it will still randomly start and stop charging.
I also noticed that the battery level seems to be off. At one point it was down to maybe 20% (in the yellow). I rebooted and it was up to 30 (in the green). I don't have any real numbers, it was only something I noticed. It's not rooted so I couldn't clear out the battery stats. Instead I drained it down to 0%, charged it all the way to full while it was off. It seemed to help for a day, but the problem came back later.
Could it be battery? Or phone? She has at&t insurance on it, and we're going to run to the (official) store. I just don't know if they send it back or replace it. She can't really be without a phone, so I'm hoping it's the battery (unless they want to replace the phone on the spot).
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I had this exact same problem a couple weeks ago...it all started one day at work when I had my phone plugged in (as I usually did if it was in one place for more than 5 minutes), but after turning on my screen for the the first time in an hour or so, I noticed that it hadn't charged at all! The indicator at the top didn't even show that it was plugged in.
Figuring it was just some kind of little glitch, I unplugged it, blew inside the charge port as well as the cable (old Nintendo habits die hard lol). Well as I went to plug it back in, I realized that NOW the indicator showed it was "charging", and my phone had gotten super hot in just the 30ish seconds it took me to blow the port and cable (heh.)
So obviously I freaked out and immediately shut it down, pulled the back, and removed the battery to let the two pieces calm down and make nice - before ultimately putting it back together and booting up after 15 minutes or so.
So the good news was that the "reverse charge" issue was gone...but the bad news was, the charge activity started acting literally word-for-word like your girlfriend's. Intermittent charging when it was sitting still, not charging at all for a period of time, losing more battery than it was gaining while it was plugged in and the screen was OFF...so yeah, it sucked. I did notice that I could push the cord back while it was plugged in and it would stay charging, but obviously I can't sit in one spot holding my phone for 5 hours a day - and that stopped working after a few tries anyway.
I spent countless hours on the internet, googling different phrases to try and find similar instances of this happening - but to no avail. Everyone's story was just a little different...and pretty much everything I found outside of XDA* was written by people over in England who dropped their N7000 in the snow, causing the charge port to be corroded. The conclusion from everything else I found regarding this issue for the i717 was essentially always "the only way you can fix this is to get a new phone, but you're screwed because this glitch causes the phone to look like it has water damage and therefore renders it ineligible for manufacturer warranty claim or even insurance claims".
To make matters worse, not only was my phone effectively unchargeable, but it was discharging at an absolutely absurd rate. I'm talking approximately 20% every TEN MINUTES!
So I got desperate (it's Sunday by now)...all of the cell phone repair places were closed where I live, but I was able to do some searching and found this guy that was surprisingly available at the AT&T store closest to my house. That kept me alive until Monday, when I was able to take it in to the guy who I've been going to ever since the iPhone days (he is FANTASTIC). So he looks at it, takes it apart, and in about 5 minutes he tells me that the small little strip where my charge port attaches to the mother board (or whatever) had a lot of cracks running across it that were causing it to short-out. He said that it's a very common problem with the AT&T Galaxy Note, I guess due to them using a pretty cheap part in that regard. This obviously explained the intermittent charging, the brief "reverse charge", and even the battery drain (if the motherboard was shorting out).
So what did he do?
Replaced the little strip that connects the charge port to the motherboard...took him half an hour...cost me $25. Advised me that, when I plug my phone in from now on, to try as hard as possible to keep the phone still and not move it around. So at least in my case, it was NOT the battery. If you'd rather be cautious and not take the phone into a store if you can avoid it, you can probably get a replacement battery online for just a few bucks and at least eliminate that.
So the moral of the story is: DO NOT try to take the phone in to AT&T store or deal with your warranty/insurance until you take it in to a decent repair place and have them take a look at it.
Hopefully this helps...I'm sure you are wanting (like I was) a software solution, but it is what it is. And just curious, did your girlfriend have any similar "reverse-charge" instances like I described above?
tl;dr: The problem is the charging port, not the battery. Should be an easy and inexpensive (<$50) fix at a legitimate cell phone repair location.
*The silver lining in this whole thing was that it caused me to stumble upon this forum...so I went from stock ROM, stock everything (before my charge port issue) to having flashed about one ROM per day over the last 5 days because I've been so interested in the entire world of customization that I only discovered after seeing a thread with "Gubment Cheeze" in the title (who WOULDN'T at least look at that to see what's up??) here on XDA and starting to read. I've been a 24/7 lurker ever since
I read the last post by cpa poke and I must say it's quite risky to actually have a phone repaired by an unlicensed dealer/repair shop, because you'll cause any warranty left on the item to be effectively void.
I do know it is tempting for any of us to get our phone fixed as soon as possible, but then I think we should keep it cool and try to work out what else we can to do to make it work -- even though it might be temporarily -- until we can return it properly, as according to warranty indications.
Any of you trying to get a "repair fix" might want to consider that it may well be rather short-lived, because the same problem could persist for some reason -- that your repair shop did not recognize. If ultimately you have to get it repaired again, your ("fantastic") repair guy might then not be able to solve the problem and at that point any warranty claim would be quite certainly rejected, either (because of any previous unauthorized modifications to the device).
As far as I'm concerned, I have been testing my device with different chargers, currently it's charging consistently while turned off.
Also, I don't think I have had any of the "battery drainage" problem while charging, rather the battery indications were rather unreliable.
Then, I have read the problem could be solved by changing the battery. So I'll see if that makes a difference as soon as I get a replacement.
Another option will be to factory reset the item. I'll try that as soon as I get a backup of my phone data.
To all of you who are stuck with this issue I suggest you try some of the above: different chargers, removing and reinserting your battery, or else a battery replacement, factory reset.
Also try and leave the phone for some time and try to charge it then while turned off -- that's how I got my phone to charge again (until now), and according to the battery symbol it's almost fully charged -- the issue might still persist after that, but maybe it'll work until I can fix it otherwise, or get a replacement. After all, if it's been handled properly we should expect to get it replaced.
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I read the last post by cpa poke and I must say it's quite risky to actually have a phone repaired by an unlicensed dealer/repair shop, because you'll cause any warranty left on the item to be effectively void.
I do know it is tempting for any of us to get our phone fixed as soon as possible, but then I think we should keep it cool and try to work out what else we can to do to make it work -- even though it might be temporarily -- until we can return it properly, as according to warranty indications.
Any of you trying to get a "repair fix" might want to consider that it may well be rather short-lived, because the same problem could persist for some reason -- that your repair shop did not recognize. If ultimately you have to get it repaired again, your ("fantastic") repair guy might then not be able to solve the problem and at that point any warranty claim would be quite certainly rejected, either (because of any previous unauthorized modifications to the device).
As far as I'm concerned, I have been testing my device with different chargers, currently it's charging consistently while turned off.
Also, I don't think I have had any of the "battery drainage" problem while charging, rather the battery indications were rather unreliable.
Then, I have read the problem could be solved by changing the battery. So I'll see if that makes a difference as soon as I get a replacement.
Another option will be to factory reset the item. I'll try that as soon as I get a backup of my phone data.
To all of you who are stuck with this issue I suggest you try some of the above: different chargers, removing and reinserting your battery, or else a battery replacement, factory reset.
Also try and leave the phone for some time and try to charge it then while turned off -- that's how I got my phone to charge again (until now), and according to the battery symbol it's almost fully charged -- the issue might still persist after that, but maybe it'll work until I can fix it otherwise, or get a replacement. After all, if it's been handled properly we should expect to get it replaced.
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While I agree that taking it to a repair place should only be reserved for desperate/time sensitive situations, the only reason I chose that route over going through AT&T or an insurance company was that, from everything I'd read, the symptoms alone would likely cause them to assume water damage - thus rendering the same scenario as if the 3rd party repair voided the warranty.
Im having the same problem with myGalaxy S3 today, random intermittent charging..
I Just took off the back cover a few minutes ago and found a little glob of water sitting above the charging port!! Aaah!!
Don't know how it got there, but going to let her dry out and see if it resolves itself.
info:
rooted S3 i9300
2 months old
ROM: Complex-D 2.1.3
Getting random freezes on this ROMfor a few days also, so going to flash a new rom and see if the problem persists
Is it me, or is this a retardly common issue with i717s? I've had this same issue twice. I replaced the charger flex board when I bought the phone in the first place. And now it hasn't been a month and the flex board seems like it's out again.
My phone had this issue and all I did was oder the charging port from parts4repair.com and it cleared the issue up
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Are you using the Samsung charger for your phone? It seems you are over volted and burn your usb port.
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Are you using the Samsung charger for your phone? It seems you are over volted and burn your usb port.
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Agreed .....and another thought comes to mind..
Non-OEM charger tips, especially car dock chargers and desk chargers have port tips using different material thicknesses.
I am speculating here, but it's likely that the off sizing would produce intermittent charging problems or damage to the device.
Of course, the overcharging effect would certainly account for rapid flex cable burnouts.
Without the cables and a micrometer, impossible to know for sure.
OEM is certainly preferable....g
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My phone had this issue and all I did was oder the charging port from parts4repair.com and it cleared the issue up
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I did the same about a month ago, when I got the phone. Now it's out again.
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Are you using the Samsung charger for your phone? It seems you are over volted and burn your usb port.
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I didn't know this was anything more than a myth. Though, I'm not sure this is my problem. I can charge the phone - for now - by putting the phone on my bedside table and putting a small weight along the length of the cable so it holds the jack at an angle against the port.
I know I'm gonna get flamed for that last statement.
OK, i got a desire x off a friend he bought it new two weeks ago but he went on holidays and i swapped him an iPhone.
The phone is unrooted. Last night i sat down while it was in my pocket and my car keys cracked the digitalizer. I was extremely annoyed so i left it down on the table. I had installed a new android launcher team that day but when i had the phone in my hand after it broke i remember the battery was a red icon, but i was low im just mentioning. Anyway long story short it went dead i brought it up to my room and plugged it into the wall charger. The orange light came on so i went to sleep. I woke up and the light was still on. I plugged it out and the light went off but the phone still wont boot nor go into recovery, safe etc.. Can someone please help me as i don't know what to do.
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OK, i got a desire x off a friend he bought it new two weeks ago but he went on holidays and i swapped him an iPhone.
The phone is unrooted. Last night i sat down while it was in my pocket and my car keys cracked the digitalizer. I was extremely annoyed so i left it down on the table. I had installed a new android launcher team that day but when i had the phone in my hand after it broke i remember the battery was a red icon, but i was low im just mentioning. Anyway long story short it went dead i brought it up to my room and plugged it into the wall charger. The orange light came on so i went to sleep. I woke up and the light was still on. I plugged it out and the light went off but the phone still wont boot nor go into recovery, safe etc.. Can someone please help me as i don't know what to do.
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First of all, your friend's Desire X is surely bricked. It would take a more direct approach than damaging the digitizer or installing a launcher to actually brick the device.
From my knowledge of electricity i would say the digitizer is short circuiting internally which may explain the reason the electric current from the charger flowing constantly somewhere else other than the battery. This is evident in the fact when we have a mobile device which has almost no charge, and after we plug it in and start using that mobile device, the AC charger keeps the device running and also the screen on, until the battery gain enough charge to take over and start storing charge itself. The scenario seems possible to the extent that your digitizer is short circuiting internally. And it is preventing the battery from gaining enough charge to take over.
The next possible scenario is that the battery has got pushed inside as well. But for this to be possible your car keys have to go through the plastic and reach the battery to be flattened by force internally.
So what you can do is go to any authorized service center and explain just what happened. Of course they would charge you cos this would be out of question to offer warranty. Just replace the digitizer and check.
Good luck.
ayyu3m said:
The Desire X is surely not bricked. It would take a more direct approach than damaging the digitizer to actually brick the device.
From my knowledge of electricity i would say the digitizer is short circuiting internally which may explain the reason the electric current from the charger flowing constantly somewhere else other than the battery. This is evident in the fact when we have a mobile device which has almost no charge, and after we plug it in and start using that mobile device, the AC charger keeps the device running and also the screen on, until the battery gain enough charge to take over and start storing charge itself. The scenario seems possible to the extent that your digitizer is short circuiting internally.
So if you can get a look at how much damage was done, maybe you can repair the digitizer only and be done with.
good luck.
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Thanks for the reply, The screen isnt actually turning on. Just the light when the charger is plugged in. What exactly should i look for when i open it?
Thanks again.
Jeffrey2k10 said:
Thanks for the reply, The screen isnt actually turning on. Just the light when the charger is plugged in. What exactly should i look for when i open it?
Thanks again.
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My #1 suggestion is for you to take the desire X to an authorized service center and let them repair it.
Because if you do any other damage while trying to take apart the device, it may damage parts which were not damage originally. This would cost you additionally then. So let the repair guys worry about it. As it is you have enough stress i can understand.
Unless you are sure about disassembling the unit yourself, i DO NOT recommend it. The manufacturers are now sticking to new methods of minimizing the size of the body. So this means a lot of glue and other adhesives between the body, lcd panels, digitizer instead of the traditional hooks between the plastic body and screws to hold the parts together. Believe me, removing away glued parts is very risky if you don't have the proper equipment to raise the temperature to certain degree to melt away the glue or adhesives.
You can check this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzRsLDahWVg
ayyu3m said:
My #1 suggestion is for you to take the desire X to an authorized service center and let them repair it.
Because if you do any other damage while trying to take apart the device, it may damage parts which were not damage originally. This would cost you additionally then. So let the repair guys worry about it. As it is you have enough stress i can understand.
Unless you are sure about disassembling the unit yourself, i DO NOT recommend it. The manufacturers are now sticking to new methods of minimizing the size of the body. So this means a lot of glue and other adhesives between the body, lcd panels, digitizer etc.
You can check this video :
thank you I looked at that video already, i have the phone completely apart. i just dont know what I'm looking for
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As i have seen the internal of HTC Touch, Diamond and HD2 only what i would suggest is for you to check for any damages to ANY other parts of the device. This includes
1. the plastic body
2. the mainboard
3. the battery (by default it should be a uniform surface) so check if its pushed in any sides
4. if the lcd has been pushed from the inside leading to an external mark on the back side.
All the best
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Just had a quick look through my desire X
There is not circuit board on top of the battery compartment. The mainboard is just on top of the device.
So i am sure it is just the LCD/Digitizer
Hm, there were in fact three reports about similar issues on the German android-hilfe.de forums, where the device actually wouldn't turn back on after the battery had reached 0%, the device had been shut down automatically, and had then been charged as usual. Would be interesting whether that issue was a more general hardware/battery failure, and the physical damage reported here was just 'coincidentally', having no direct impact on the battery.
To be honest, I'm quite concerned about this - I always used to let my old Samsung device shut down when its battery reached 0%, hopefully saving some battery life (although this might also be a myth), and had planned to do so with my Desire X as well, but after reading the mentioned reports (and this one, of course), I'd rather recharge the device even before it reaches 0%...
Maybe someone could shed some (technical) light on this... - the mentioned forum reports in the end did not offer other solutions than taking the device to a service center and have it repaired.
ngc2997 said:
Hm, there were in fact three reports about similar issues on the German android-hilfe.de forums, where the device actually wouldn't turn back on after the battery had reached 0%, the device had been shut down automatically, and had then been charged as usual. Would be interesting whether that issue was a more general hardware/battery failure, and the physical damage reported here was just 'coincidentally', having no direct impact on the battery.
To be honest, I'm quite concerned about this - I always used to let my old Samsung device shut down when its battery reached 0%, hopefully saving some battery life (although this might also be a myth), and had planned to do so with my Desire X as well, but after reading the mentioned reports (and this one, of course), I'd rather recharge the device even before it reaches 0%...
Maybe someone could shed some (technical) light on this... - the mentioned forum reports in the end did not offer other solutions than taking the device to a service center and have it repaired.
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my desire x did infact reach 0 and shut down. but when i put on charger it came back on.
m glad my device isnt like what you said. but i think i proved the point those devices have problem.
would be interesting to know if those devices had same problem after an impact.
Topic says it all. My family has had 2 previous phones with failing microUSB ports. This will be the third.
The phone no longer charges without jiggling the cord into the exact proper position, it took me 10 min this time to get it just right. I can assure you it is not a charger, cord or power source issue.
Unfortunately this phone was second hand so no warranty.
Has anyone sourced any replacement parts for the zara series? When my N7 first generation's broke the cheapest replacement I could find was $50 ? but at least I could find one.
I do have an external battery charger but that's such a pain.
Found the OEM part number, 51H00915-02M. Now to find a cheap shop that'll ship to Canada. Looks like there are Chinese shops on eBay that'll get it here in a month for $30. Still looking...
I had my port start going bad. When it would be charging, it would suddenly stop and say can't charge in USB sync mode and the screen seemed to have a short in it because of this because it would randomly come on for no reason and it killed my battery with so much screen time. I called Virgin mobile and after a little of pointless troubleshooting they sent me a replacement overnight shipping. Seems they're familiar with this issue. Makes me maybe want to sell this new one while it's in mint condition and stock boot loader etc
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I had my port start going bad. When it would be charging, it would suddenly stop and say can't charge in USB sync mode and the screen seemed to have a short in it because of this because it would randomly come on for no reason and it killed my battery with so much screen time. I called Virgin mobile and after a little of pointless troubleshooting they sent me a replacement overnight shipping. Seems they're familiar with this issue. Makes me maybe want to sell this new one while it's in mint condition and stock boot loader etc
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Thats exactly whats happening to my phone, cannot charge in sync mode. I'll replace the port and sell it asap. I miss aosp anyways.
Really weird I'm actually pretty careful with my phone so it's a little worrying so I may seem mine if I can get enough... They go down in value so quick
Another thing I notice is that the MicroUSB cable connectors themselves only last so long before they get bent over and break. I've gone through a dozen or so in the last couple of years. Then again, I'm not nice to my electronics.
I had this problem before a month or so.
Apparently the core of the problem was just oxidation of the contact pins, so I used a needle with cloth and some alcohol to clean the pins and voila - everything worked ok again.