I'm considering buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1 however if I'm buying one I want to be able to connect it to the TV (a 46" Samsung* 1080p LCD) and play 1080p x264 (most likely in mkv container) smooth. I've been looking for information but couldn't find consistance, some say it's laggy and some say that it works fine. Also does it output true 24p?
So I'm asking here, does it work today and is it pretty much flawless or should I wait a little longer and buy a Tegra 3 tablet?
*Not an actual Samsung branded TV but it's a "designer brand" TV and they use Samsung hardware, not that it would really be relevant in this case.
Hultner said:
I'm considering buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1 however if I'm buying one I want to be able to connect it to the TV (a 46" Samsung* 1080p LCD) and play 1080p x264 (most likely in mkv container) smooth. I've been looking for information but couldn't find consistance, some say it's laggy and some say that it works fine. Also does it output true 24p?
So I'm asking here, does it work today and is it pretty much flawless or should I wait a little longer and buy a Tegra 3 tablet?
*Not an actual Samsung branded TV but it's a "designer brand" TV and they use Samsung hardware, not that it would really be relevant in this case.
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Nope. Tegra2 doesn't do 1080p well, and if you want "flawless" you're getting a bit ahead of the tech. I don't know how Tegra3 fares; I've heard it's better, but not flawless. I've never seen it myself, though. I'd suggest just getting a dedicated media streamer (Roku or ?) or a PS3 for that purpose.
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Nope. Tegra2 doesn't do 1080p well, and if you want "flawless" you're getting a bit ahead of the tech. I don't know how Tegra3 fares; I've heard it's better, but not flawless. I've never seen it myself, though. I'd suggest just getting a dedicated media streamer (Roku or ?) or a PS3 for that purpose.
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I've already got an Sandy Bridge HTPC for stationary media playback. To be perfectly honest I would probably not use it that much on my own tv but when I'm over at friends, etc.
Does it do 720p well at least? Thinking mainly of h.264 TV-Shows like the ones you can buy in iTunes and such but probably one and another x264 in matroska container as well. Now I'm not thinking much of playback over HDMI but rather on the screen (which is 1280x800 so 720p would be perfect for that screen). Would be nice to be able to put some movies in 720p on a bunch i 32GB MicroSD cards to watch on flights, train-rides and such (I frequently travel 3-6 hours and watching movies on the cell phone is horrible, laptop works if there's a table and proper space but I feel that a tabelt would be better for the purpose).
If it at least does 720p well I'll probably buy one and have until there are tablets which can handle 1080p flawlessly.
Hultner said:
I've already got an Sandy Bridge HTPC for stationary media playback. To be perfectly honest I would probably not use it that much on my own tv but when I'm over at friends, etc.
Does it do 720p well at least? Thinking mainly of h.264 TV-Shows like the ones you can buy in iTunes and such but probably one and another x264 in matroska container as well. Now I'm not thinking much of playback over HDMI but rather on the screen (which is 1280x800 so 720p would be perfect for that screen). Would be nice to be able to put some movies in 720p on a bunch i 32GB MicroSD cards to watch on flights, train-rides and such (I frequently travel 3-6 hours and watching movies on the cell phone is horrible, laptop works if there's a table and proper space but I feel that a tabelt would be better for the purpose).
If it at least does 720p well I'll probably buy one and have until there are tablets which can handle 1080p flawlessly.
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it does 720p flawlessly ye
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it does 720p flawlessly ye
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Thanks for the information.
The decision is pretty hard, I previously had an iPad but hated it for several reasons. Some of them being that the screen is 4:3 & only 1024x768, your stuck with the Safari Browser which got the Safari css-sprite bug, Mail.app is useless in comparison to the Gmail app for android, especially if you're a apps user with several addresses and I get past all those with the Galaxy Tab however there are still some of the things that I didn't like which precist such as not being able to use it to watch 1080p movies on a FullHD-TV over HDMI, 10" is kinda big, it's not much smaller then my 13" MacBook Pro (8" would probably be more suitable for me), it's hard on the eyes as an e-reader and can't truly replace an E-Ink device, the usefulness of an tablet is kinda limited since an laptop is a better choice in many cases and the cellphone in most others.
I have to do some thinking (I will most likely end up buying one anyway and replace it with a smaller but specwise beefier device when "premium" 7-8" tablets who handles flawless 1080p starts popping up).
What about you who own this tablet, do you think it's worth buying one today? Is it the best tablet?
I've been looking some one the Asus Transformer Prime as well which is about the same price here but with Tegra 3, better battery life, better connectivity, keyboard dock with extra battery included. However I don't quite like that device as much, frankly the entire semi-ultrabook thing seems a bit silly especially since I've already got my 13" MacBook Pro for all the needs the keyboard-dock would fill, it doesn't look quite as good, it's wifi only (wtf!). It's a great product for all those who doesn't own a Ultrabook or similar notebook (maybe not a notebook at all) and need that but it could never replace a notebook, I already feel that the MacBook Air and Ultrabooks are to limited to replace my MacBook Pro so to replace it with a Tegra 3 semi-ultrabook would be unrealistic. Still if the Transformer Prime looked like the Galaxy Tab and had 3G it would seem like a wise choice (even if you'd throw away the keyboard dock).
If you are in the business for HD videos, go for an Archos G9. (Which will most likely get official ICS way before the GTab101, btw =/ )
They have 250gb!! models and provides flawless 1080p playback for almost any video format known to man and has a native micro HDMI port.
The 3G dongle should work with AT&T.
There's even 2 USB-Host ports!!; one full-size, one microUSB that needs a microUSB male/USB female standard adapter.
Support for USB keyboards, mice, wired LAN adapter, Hard drives.. name it.
If you're into videos more than games, it is THE way to go.
Some try to push tablets in a direction they really aren't suited to go and for some of us it's hard to relate to that. It seems that you have a firm grasp of the limitations and how they affect you though. If it doesn't fit you it just doesn't fit you.
To me it doesn't make much sense to put a lot of emphasis on playback of 1080p encoded video on a Galaxy Tab 10.1 since it is limited in storage space and isn't designed (AFAIK) to do USB host at the same time as HDMI out. Just copying a 2GB file onto this thing takes much longer than it would onto a USB powered external HDD so why would I load it up with a bunch of files when I could have those on a 500GB USB HDD and play them off of a Roku or something.
I do understand though that most who ask simply have a sizable library of 1080p rips already and for those folks I say tread carefully because chances are those files won't play back properly.
I love my tablet though, and carry it around nearly everywhere I go. For web browsing, scheduling, email and basic media consumption this thing is fantastic. I have a few of my son's current favorite movies on it just in case he needs a distraction (720p rips off of bluray) and I have a collection of my favorite TV shows from EZTV that I follow. Mizuu is fantastic at gathering movie and TV show data and presenting everything in an XBMC like interface.
Mizuu seems fantastic, but how can I make it find the stock I have on my NAS, for example?
Would that be possible? Using a CIFS manager, for example..
Thanks for the EZTV tip too; (who said it was tricky to find good Honeycomb apps?)
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Mizuu seems fantastic, but how can I make it find the stock I have on my NAS, for example?
Would that be possible? Using a CIFS manager, for example..
Thanks for the EZTV tip too; (who said it was tricky to find good Honeycomb apps?)
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http://mizuu.tv/suggestion/support-for-network-storage-devices/#comments
Havent tried it myself but apparently possible.
Hultner said:
I've already got an Sandy Bridge HTPC for stationary media playback. To be perfectly honest I would probably not use it that much on my own tv but when I'm over at friends, etc.
Does it do 720p well at least? Thinking mainly of h.264 TV-Shows like the ones you can buy in iTunes and such but probably one and another x264 in matroska container as well. Now I'm not thinking much of playback over HDMI but rather on the screen (which is 1280x800 so 720p would be perfect for that screen). Would be nice to be able to put some movies in 720p on a bunch i 32GB MicroSD cards to watch on flights, train-rides and such (I frequently travel 3-6 hours and watching movies on the cell phone is horrible, laptop works if there's a table and proper space but I feel that a tabelt would be better for the purpose).
If it at least does 720p well I'll probably buy one and have until there are tablets which can handle 1080p flawlessly.
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I'm not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but the GT10 doesn't have an SD slot (or microsd). There is a dongle for USB-host, probably would take a flash drive (or microsd in a USB reader) but as far as I'm concerned it sort of ruins the whole purpose of a tablet to have things hanging off of it (just my opinion). If you need more storage you should stream wirelessly (I never put media on the tab; google music, grooveshark, netflix, and allshare FTW!). Otherwise, go with something that has a bigger HDD or built-in SD reader (or just put up with either lower-res or less movies). The Archos isn't a bad suggestion for your purposes. As far as I understand, that thing is made for media. Of course, it's not as nice as the GT10 as a tablet (none of them are, including the transformer prime), but if you just want something for movies on an airplane, might make more sense.
Oh I didn't realise that it doesn't have an SD-Slot, thanks for pointing it out. That's kinda a dealbreaker for me. It's not a big deal normally as I stream most my media via Plex and music via Spotify but streaming is worthless both on trains and airplanes, even if they sometimes do got WIFI the speed is always closer to dial-up then broadband and useless for media streaming, even surfing the web is usually horrible.
I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
good to know
Where did you buy it from?
Nice share, mate..
Did you used this for your 3vo?
I wanna know why don't you buy the adapter that provide by HTC? Few weeks ago I have a little chat with Htc customer service, and she said that htc are not recommend to use any attachments or accessories that they don't provide or provided by an unknown third party.. At the first time I was thought it was only their bloody marketing strategy.. But, later when I wanna buy a power bank for my 3vo my friend told me that he got a trouble when use it and it brick his blackberry battery like a hell.. So I think it make sense why did they suggested me to use an accessory which they provide and developed.. But a rough case is an exception, eh?
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I don't think the adapter has anything to do with the framerate of the video. The adapter is literally just an adapter, taking the video signal from the 5 pin usb and outputting it to the hdmi port.
yes i did test it on my evo 3d on both stock rom and leedroid. actually the adapter itself can affect the quality because i have seen adapters that only output to 720p.
Who has a good one and where did you get it?
GO into a bit more detail on the differences between the good and the bad.
I got mine from an ATT store, or was it a T-Mo store..
Got mine from T-mo..and it works great.
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in my case the bad adapter outputs to 1080p (more like 1080i) but the quality is a bit fuzzy with alot of jagged edges whilst the oem adapter produces actual 1080p full resolution and does not lag due to it supporting the full 60hz that the phone is capable of outputting. audio quality is about the same for each. it is not the hdmi cable i am using because i have used several including one that supports 3d @ 120hz.
How are you reading the 60 fps? I have 3 adapters, a monoprice and 2 no-name brand adapters - and all 3 report output of "1080/30P" on my LG TV.
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I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
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Please post about the actual FPS - and how you're reading the 60fps. I'm concerned that you might be spreading misinformation. After reading this thread, I decided to buy an official Samsung MHL adapter - even though I now have 3 no-name adapters.
On my LG HDTV - all outputs report as 1080P/30FPS, at least coming out of the Evo 3D. I'll continue doing testing on all 4 adapters - so I can post a comparison thread in the accessories subforum. But for now - I see no reason that I'd want to spend $25 for the Samsung MHL adapter I just received, as opposed to the $6 EBAY special I already have.
Seriously...I want USB audio support for my damn phone already... Do I really have to sell my galaxy note, and get a damn iphone for this feature that should've been here YEARS AGO?
Our phones have the worst DSP/DAC ever...
Every post I have seen of yours has just been *****ing and moaning about this phone... not once have I seen a productive/informative/helpful post from you.
why don't you just sell it already and go back to drinking apple koolaid then?
LOL
Why not just use a 3.5 mm aux wire for music and leave the usb for charging in the car? Problem solved. Although, you would have to change tracks on the phone instead of the car's head unit. There are requests to google since a year ago, we might see it in Jellybean.
I agree, *****ing and moaning wont do much. If you cant stand having this device, sell it and get something else.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
go bluetooth bro. it works awesomely
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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To answer the subject line, it hasn't been coded yet.
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I have the same issues with the phone as you. There are things I love about the iPhone and there are things I love about the Note. The Note wins for now.
c0reyl said:
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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Since Google wont code it, Your only option now is to get an iPhone. Best of Luck to ya.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/droid/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
Besides a DIY project, may try the MHL-microHDMI link to and audio input. Most manufacturers don't seem interested in making anything but apple's 30pin audio components. My Pioneer Dual Din Bluetooth Car Stereo has a USB out the works with Note. Have to use the phone to control it though.
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Sell it and shut the effin up already and quit wasting space on this forum
I love my Note, but I keep an old ipod permanently connected in my car just for music. And I have my old iphone 3G, which is only worth $50 at best, is attached to my hi-fi system at home.
Who says you have to do everything with one device? If the Note doesn't do what you want, keep your note and buy something else to do the other job. Just my $0.02.
i'm no genius - but doesn't the MHL adapter provide HDMI audio out?
wouldn't that imply that you CAN get HiFi audio out to your AVR or amp ?
then again, what do i know
If you are this anal about high end sound use store bought CDs. That or a record player and you won't need a DAC.
I love audio way more than anyone I know and I stream blue tooth audio from my phone.. Is it the best sound? No but it gets the job done. If you want high end you need to right equipment. Sadly the Galaxy note doesn't currently have the ability to do this.
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
c0reyl said:
What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
c0reyl said:
How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out.
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Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem.
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TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
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I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different shaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
slapshot591 said:
I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
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Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
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It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different chaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
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Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?
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Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?
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maybe it outputs 1080p (progressive) at 30 hz only
But my tv supports 30hz, how would i make it choose 1080p and not 1080i?
and the hz are selected automatically depending on the source.
I tried my dell 24" 1080P monitor, it displayed too at 1080I, not 1080P.
Help, i want 1080P
Afaik it's not capable of such a high-bandwith format, and "only" supports up to 1080i.
So no can do as a forum search should've shown.
some people have said it works at 1080p for them in other forums.
Anyone?
Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.
radpp16 said:
Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.
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I have the official MHL cable and it outputs at 1080p at 30hz, however i don't want this display type, ok yea great if i want to watch movies, but i want to play tekken with 2 pads, all i need is the mhl to do it's thing.
60fps would be amazing, however i don't believe that it's possible.
Being bottle necked at 30hz on 1080 i / p or even 720 p is just not acceptable, infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
Movie's are great, games not so good, although the jelly bean update i just got did help somehow.
By the way i'm using a 47 inch 1080p capable 3D TV
You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
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Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"
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You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"
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Because it is !!!
Other phones, ie: the iphone is capable of running games at their full potential speed using their AV link cable, which is just wonderful when i hear it from my friends who have iphones / ipads.
Movies is one thing, but to have the ability to have two pads linked to my phone via bluetooth, the ability to play an age old game on a psx emulator on my phone, I then go out and buy an MHL cable thinking that I can play it at the speed the phone is delivering and then it falls on it's arse and runs at a pitiful frame rate due to it running at 30hz and not mirroring fully, that in my opinion and many others is a kick in the teeth, it should have been thoroughly tested by samsung and not just thrown out there, and for it not to be properly looked at, the £27 price tag i paid for it, is overpriced and not worth the money.
Also about your thoughts on the human eye only having the ability to see 24 frames per second, that has nothing to do with it.
The human eye for all it's faults is still capable of seeing a difference between 24 - 30 or even 60+ fps so having a framedrop is not just noticable it's annoying.
Also the galaxy s 3 is not just a phone, it is a smart phone it is also worth £500 and capable of much more than just making and receiving phone calls, so no not just a phone, it's a device capable of much more.
When a device like the S3 has a peripheral like the MHL cable, promising mirroring of the device onto a HD TV, you tend to believe it, well i paid for it and i wished i hadn't because although it does what it says on the tin to an extent, however it does it with latency issues and input delay, rendering gaming obsolete, which is the main reason i bought this thing.
No 1080p and even no 1080i
Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
Anyway, even if they are original they are not able to output 1080p. TV reports 1080i but if you watch full hd (1920*1080) videos with them and you focus on the screen you can easily see that the video is played at 720p not even close to 1080p or i.
Samsung has announced that you can watch full hd videos and 1080p output. but these adapters are not able to provide such performance.
Apparently, the original packaging from samsung should look like this:
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.
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Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.
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Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDr7q_v7CE
Dexter_Morgan said:
Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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Dexter_Morgan said:
Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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I have a hologram on mine, bought from a samsung retailer.
But either way i've seen different results yielded from the cable. On my Viera it's 1080i @ 60hz and on my LG it's 1080p @ 30hz, on some HDMI cables it doesn't work at all.
So yea it's a weird one.
Good for movies, utter useless for gaming. Unless it's a slow game, slight input lag.
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