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....to go from a DNA to a Note 2 and now possibly back to a DNA. I know certain users around here might drop their jaws by looking at this post based on my posting history, but I'm considering it.
I must confess, I'm a phone whore. I get bored pretty easily and always like to try new phones, etc. I had a S3 before my original DNA purchase and then I returned that for a Note 2. But now I'm kind of bored with the Note 2. I think since I had the S3 before it, I'm kind of bored with Touchwiz.
There is a guy from my local Craigslist who is willing to do a trade of the phones and he will throw $50 on top. My phone and his are both in mint condition with all of the original accessories, etc. What do you guys think of the deal?
Also, before I consider it any further, I have a few questions:
1. He said the new OTA is installed and it's not rooted. From the quick reading here, there currently isn't a root method for the new OTA. Will there be any time soon?
2. I've seen both sides of this, but will Sense 5 be a realistic possibility? Whether official or unofficial, it doesn't matter to me.
3. Do any of the current custom ROM's make the home screen scrolling any faster? This is one of the biggest ones for me. I just didn't like the slow animations while scrolling the home screens. And please refrain from saying "just install Nova". I know that would help, but I'm talking about Sense.
I need to make a decision by tomorrow, so any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Convince me! LOL.
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
1. He said the new OTA is installed and it's not rooted. From the quick reading here, there currently isn't a root method for the new OTA. Will there be any time soon?
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You are correct in the fact that you are currently unable to root it. And no one knows when a new root method will come out. It could be tomorrow, it could be next month, it could be never.
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2. I've seen both sides of this, but will Sense 5 be a realistic possibility? Whether official or unofficial, it doesn't matter to me.
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Unofficially, of course. Officially, its likely, but not certain. Someone, nits iirc, said it's been built and in the hands of verizon already. So that's good news.
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3. Do any of the current custom ROM's make the home screen scrolling any faster? This is one of the biggest ones for me. I just didn't like the slow animations while scrolling the home screens. And please refrain from saying "just install Nova". I know that would help, but I'm talking about Sense.
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No. And I'm pretty sure it's not easy to do that. And to be honest if it really bothers you that much just install a 3rd party launcher.
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Go buy a Motorola phone.... it will make you appreciate either one of them:silly:
I know, not helpful..... well, with the OTA installed on it, he should throw $100 on it because that just made it so that you're stuck for now. If he puts in $100, go for it hahah
I switched from the Note 2 to the DNA and could not be happier. There has never been a time I wished I still had the Note.
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I switched from the Note 2 to the DNA and could not be happier. There has never been a time I wished I still had the Note.
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What do you like better about the DNA over the Note 2? I know for sure that I will miss the battery life if I do this.
If you need convincing then just keep what you have. Just my opinion.
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If you need convincing then just keep what you have. Just my opinion.
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Why do you say that?
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I'm the same way I'm known as the guy with a new phone lol. I own the DNA which my gf has right now we switched and I want it back and only play with the note 2 where I work since I sell phones and I like it too just not a touchwize person bit would like to personally use cm10 or 10.1 the DNA and note 2 r set up right next to each other and the DNA gets brighter. I like both screens. Depends to me if u want a huge phone or a phablet
Also. If you are like me I'm around a charger quite often so battery doesn't bother me. The DNA did pretty well to last the day on decent use but my usage varies
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If it's unlocked then I would get it, if not I would pass.
I believe it will get Sense5.
As for roms making the home screen scrolling faster, idk since I use Nova, but Supercharged Hatka has a lot of speed tweaks.
If I were you I would wait for the S4 since you already tried the DNA and would be tempted to get the S4 when it comes out.
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What do you like better about the DNA over the Note 2? I know for sure that I will miss the battery life if I do this.
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I prefer the size, feel, appearance and screen type. I have not used an LCD in awhile but I really like it at this point.
The note 2 felt like I had a mini tablet in my pocket and this feels like a normal phone.
The grippy material HTC used for the back of the phone makes it very easy to hold in one hand and the shiny plastic on the Note 2 made it difficult.
The shiny appearance of the note 2 was very flashy and it did look enormous compared to most phones where the DNA comes across as a normal ish phone size.
While the battery life on the note 2 was better than the DNA, I've been getting an average of 15-20 hrs per charge with what I would describe as moderately heavy usage.
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Theres nothing better with the DNA. Screen is very subjective (LCD vs amoled). Size is also, depends on person( 1 handed use with note 2/no skinny jeans here) .
I believe with the newest its there is not a way to root/soff yet. And hopefully the devs will provide sense 5. From what I hear Verizon isn't the quickest at releasing updates but that's why we have xda.
Scrolling has gotten better if comparing to intial release.
Personally my gadget addiction needed to try something else. Im currently revisiting the dna for the moment and no real complaints.
My current issue is with development(many slightly tweaked stock roms). Waiting to see what happens after HTC one release.
Samsung devices out of the box are slightly better. You can see all the little things they added when switching to HTC.
Verizon needs to stop touching things. Everything they added is extremely annoying. I'm not extremely hype about sense 5, all I see is a rss reader. Its very clean looking though.
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I just want to echo the sentiment that the update makes scrolling home pages faster, at least in my hands, it feels faster.
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If it's unlocked then I would get it, if not I would pass.
I believe it will get Sense5.
As for roms making the home screen scrolling faster, idk since I use Nova, but Supercharged Hatka has a lot of speed tweaks.
If I were you I would wait for the S4 since you already tried the DNA and would be tempted to get the S4 when it comes out.
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What do you mean by unlocked? If you mean rooted and soff, it's not.
So the consensus is to not get this DNA?
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What do you mean by unlocked? If you mean rooted and soff, it's not.
So the consensus is to not get this DNA?
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Assuming the trader is using the gsm unlock as a selling point. The device is s-on and has the ota that can't be rooted.
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Get that damn DNA bro. You will love it.
Install newt NOS Rom on it and njoy.
My DNA is flying with this Rom and cubed kernel. No more stuttering while scrolling through homescreen and contact list.
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amit_sen said:
Get that damn DNA bro. You will love it.
Install newt NOS Rom on it and njoy.
My DNA is flying with this Rom and cubed kernel. No more stuttering while scrolling through homescreen and contact list.
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Only problem is the new OTA is installed so I can't root lol.
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Assuming the trader is using the gsm unlock as a selling point. The device is s-on and has the ota that can't be rooted.
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I still don't understand gsm unlock. The phone has never been rooted and is on the latest OTA.
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I still don't understand gsm unlock. The phone has never been rooted and is on the latest OTA.
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The dna is gsm unlocked straight from Verizon. It means you can pop an at&t(or any other gsm carrier) sim in it and it will work. It has no relation to bootloader unlocking.
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I think he would like it unlocked so he can mod it if he wants to, and he probably will.
Be sure you're okay with sense because you'll be using stock wayyyy more than you are used to on other phones. That's the biggest thing you'll notice - while there is good dev support, its nothing compared to n2/gs3 support. You're options will be limited and hence, you'll be using sense (or sense based roms) a whole lot. I switched back for the same reason, touchwiz gets boring quick. I am 90% confident that we'll be getting sense 5.0 so that's good. It may not be for another 2-3 months though Others and yourself are correct in saying that until superCID gets worked out for 2.x.x updates, you (we) are SOL and stuck with stock until further implementation. Because of this, again, hope you're okay with stock
Thought I would ask those who have the Note II what you guys think of the SIV. I am a tech junkie and always move on to something else. (My only regret was the Droid DNA.) I actually like my Note II a lot and really don't know if I want the SVI or not (or HTC One). So what do you guys think?
Think we will get a lot of the stuff on the note 2
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Think we will get a lot of the stuff on the note 2
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Samsung says that all their flagship devices, including the GS3 will get the software improvements, anything not related to hardware, like ir.
I don't want to downgrade screen sizes so Note 3 is when I'm making my move. That S4 Snapdragon CPU is ridiculously fast though and makes me jealous that I only have an Exynos 4 (which is still fast).
Edit: I hate to be critical but I'm just pointing out the Roman numeral for '4' is 'IV'. Sorta bugged me that you were calling it a Galaxy S6 haha
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**** yeah! Galaxy S6!
I think it's cool, but no exynos for America. That's a bummer. I don't really want a snapdragon chip in a phone I use, unless the next Google phone is that. Plus the note has a good chip and is unlockable. Along with a lot of aosp support. So far th is year nothing tickles my pickle like the note 2 has.
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I think it's cool, but no exynos for America. That's a bummer. I don't really want a snapdragon chip in a phone I use, unless the next Google phone is that. Plus the note has a good chip and is unlockable. Along with a lot of aosp support. So far th is year nothing tickles my pickle like the note 2 has.
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May I ask why you dislike the Snapdragon? I've heard the US version will be slightly faster than the Exynos 5 chip. On top of that, Snapdragon CPUs can be over clocked to oblivion lol
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Samsung says that all their flagship devices, including the GS3 will get the software improvements, anything not related to hardware, like ir.
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I'm hoping this happens.
DroidOnRoids said:
I don't want to downgrade screen sizes so Note 3 is when I'm making my move. That S4 Snapdragon CPU is ridiculously fast though and makes me jealous that I only have an Exynos 4 (which is still fast).
Edit: I hate to be critical but I'm just pointing out the Roman numeral for '4' is 'IV'. Sorta bugged me that you were calling it a Galaxy S6 haha
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Maybe he knows something you don't.
Dont care couldnt go back to a smaller screen.
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Note 3 or bust! :good:
Processor is irrelevant to me. The note 2 has never lagged for me nor have I seen any even remote hang ups. S4 looks pretty nice but for me to upgrade from the note 2 it will take more than the s4.
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Just give me the damn software for it and I'm good.
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Samsung says that all their flagship devices, including the GS3 will get the software improvements, anything not related to hardware, like ir.
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I'm hoping this happens.
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I'm sure it will, I just hope it doesn't take awhile. I think we'll be close to the Note 3 release before we see these features though, but I hope I'm wrong. Maybe the features will be easy to port (from 4.2.2 to 4.1.1) and we'll see these features in roms shortly after the S4 release
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Processor is irrelevant to me. The note 2 has never lagged for me nor have I seen any even remote hang ups. S4 looks pretty nice but for me to upgrade from the note 2 it will take more than the s4.
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Agreed. This will be the first time I've stayed put. Anyone who knows me knows I flip phones like people change their oil. This time? Yeah, I like the looks and stuff, but I think my N2 can keep up.
This will all change when I hold one once lol
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You guys are right. The phone shows no sign of lag on stock kernel with Project Butter Jelly Bean. Guess the updated processors on these upcoming devices are just an added speed bonus.
Edit: although I'm anxious to see how the S4's battery life is on the newer processors and 2600 mah battery.
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May I ask why you dislike the Snapdragon? I've heard the US version will be slightly faster than the Exynos 5 chip. On top of that, Snapdragon CPUs can be over clocked to oblivion lol
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I've found that the exynos stays a lot cooler during extended use, then compared to my brothers DNA.
Ive noticed my note 2 being a lot cooler than my last 2 htcs with snap dragons
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You guys are right. The phone shows no sign of lag on stock kernel with Project Butter Jelly Bean. Guess the updated processors on these upcoming devices are just an added speed bonus.
Edit: although I'm anxious to see how the S4's battery life is on the newer processors and 2600 mah battery.
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I feel like at this point improvement in the processor world needs to be battery life, however even that is still minor. I just don't see how a processor even twice as powerful could have any real world benefit.
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I just want the update with the new features that don't require the new sensors. I'm pretty happy with my Note.
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They seem to be pretty similar in specs but are slightly different in size. Would there have to be resizing involved? I've read in the sgs4 forums that it actually isn't aosp, that it's Samsung framework without the bloat and extra optimizations from tw. I'm curious to know if this could ever work for us.
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They seem to be pretty similar in specs but are slightly different in size. Would there have to be resizing involved? I've read in the sgs4 forums that it actually isn't aosp, that it's Samsung framework without the bloat and extra optimizations from tw. I'm curious to know if this could ever work for us.
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It could work, just as there were ports from other devices for the S3, but its doubtful because it would take a hell of a lot of bug fixing and its still way too soon to be asking.
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I had iPhone 3G as my first phone, following by 4s then i switched to Galaxy s3 in April 2013. I've learned a lot, i've flashed many custom roms, kernel etc.
After seeing Samsung delaying updates and transporting regional lock along with kitkat update are the reason that i come to decision that i will sell my galaxy s3 for Nexus 4 (cant afford n5 yet).
I need your help guys
How good is the battery on nexus 4 compared to galaxy s3?
Idc about storage
This is a q&a thread, so it also belongs there. But to answer your question. Comparing stock of both devices, the s3 definitely wins. Samsung is good at creating a good battery life, even with touchwiz
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You endured once in a blue moon updates in iOS, but you can't in android, which there is an update almost every week?
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S3 wins hands down. Tho I would recommend getting sony because don't delay the update
I disagree.
Bells and whistles like smart stay that doesn't even work properly after the jellybean update or a maybe slightly better camera (though I don't find much difference) doesn't outweight not having proper multitask. Also, neither touchwiz nor aosp have the nexus smoothness. Even my dad's former galaxy nexus feels slightly better than my s3.
If you can live with not having an sdcard or a removable battery, I'd say the n4 provides a better user experience (did try it for about a month). The only reason I'm not getting the n4 is because I'm waiting out the n5.
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This thread would be best off in the Nexus 4 section, most users who browse the S3 forums still have and use the S3.
inferol said:
I had iPhone 3G as my first phone, following by 4s then i switched to Galaxy s3 in April 2013. I've learned a lot, i've flashed many custom roms, kernel etc.
After seeing Samsung delaying updates and transporting regional lock along with kitkat update are the reason that i come to decision that i will sell my galaxy s3 for Nexus 4 (cant afford n5 yet).
I need your help guys
How good is the battery on nexus 4 compared to galaxy s3?
Idc about storage
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This is a joke, right? S3 is in overall better then the nexus 4. S3 will get 4.4. Regional lock can be removed. Also SD-Card and removable battery is essential for a phone in my opinion. (Plus, the N4 is an Lg device ) So if you don't plan to go from S3 to N5, stick to the S3!
well i am curious how long samaung/other custom devs will continue support galaxy s3 in 2014
cuz S4 still havent recieved 4.3 and 4.4 is already rolling out for Sony flagship device soon, which means this is my last samsung device >.<
And isn't mali 400mp old tho?
i will buy N5 in April then
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well i am curious how long samaung/other custom devs will continue support galaxy s3 in 2014
cuz S4 still havent recieved 4.3 and 4.4 is already rolling out for Sony flagship device soon, which means this is my last samsung device >.<
And isn't mali 400mp old tho?
i will buy N5 in April then
thanks for the replies
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Duuuuude....4.4 has not even rolled out to Nexus devices. Hell, it hasn't even been announced. No way can it roll out for Sony devices any time soon.
Sorry i worded that incorrectly but i hope you see my point; Im disappointed with samsung updates. I should have went for n3 in the first place, i'd have saved £40 anyways.
How the hell are you disappointed with Samsung updates?!?! They are right behind Google when it comes to updates. LG and HTC suck at updates.
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How the hell are you disappointed with Samsung updates?!?! They are right behind Google when it comes to updates. LG and HTC suck at updates.
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I'll have to disagree with the HTC part. My HTC one just got 4.3. I own a note 2 and an s3 and both are still stuck on 4.1. HTC seems to be improving their update speed.
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Wait for the new nexus I'm sure you can wait a month or 2 max
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Except if your aiming to the n4 for its price. I seriously doubt the n5 will have the same price the n4 has. The n4 is, at this time, the best bang for the buck around. And I suspect it will continue to be for a good while.
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Except if your aiming to the n4 for its price. I seriously doubt the n5 will have the same price the n4 has. The n4 is, at this time, the best bang for the buck around. And I suspect it will continue to be for a good while.
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Only problem is getting one :S
Lucky Goldstar, enough said.
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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Happy I could help. I always use that site when comparing phones.
And I'll say the camera on the S4 is really awesome. The note 2 is still a beast of a phone though. Lot of development for it also. Good luck whichever way you go!
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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Can you still flash ROMs with a locked bootloader? I cant stay on stock touchwiz... its bloated and horrific.
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GagesiPad said:
Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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if you can't get a dev edition or a retail edition on mdk don't bother. on anything after mdk there is no custom recovery, only safestrap. and even on mdk there is no unlocked bootloader, just a loki exploit that allows us to flash twrp.
the phone is a great phone, but if you are looking to mod it, you have very few choices with the s4 unfortunately.