New GS4 - Question - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Today I picked up my new GS4 and it comes with MDK (sw ver on box ends in MDK). I want to root right away and probably unlock in a few days, so I have a question.
Do I need to activate before I do anything or can I just turn it on for the first time and root? I ask because I have heard that it will try to update as soon as I power up the first time and I do not want ME7.
I have searched a bit and wasn't sure so I am in a holding pattern. I have found the rooting directions and have everything together.
Thanks!

You can go ahead and root. You can put your phone in airplane mode so it wont download anything. Afterwards youll have to disable it so you can update root binaries. The update file is a hundred megabytes so youll have time and by chance if you get the whole file you can postpone it. After rooting I recommend freezing/renaming/deleting sdm.apk to get rid of the update notifications. This will also kill the update process as well so you dont have to worry about it updating your phone afterwards.
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I don't think you have to activate but even if you do, just root your phone now like right this second root and install a custom recovery. I activated my phone, deferred the update and then got root and installed twrp.
P.s. incase you accidently press accept on the ota, pull your batt and come back here for help.
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Thought I could, but wasn't sure.
Thanks!!

I'm rooted!
Thanks for the help!!
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Ok, I have another question. Does installing a custom recovery break 4G? I ask because on my last device (Motorola Photon 4G on Sprint) lost 4G service when flashing a custom recovery. I have Rom Manager installed and would like to flash the latest CWM as long as 4G will still work.

FernBch said:
Ok, I have another question. Does installing a custom recovery break 4G? I ask because on my last device (Motorola Photon 4G on Sprint) lost 4G service when flashing a custom recovery. I have Rom Manager installed and would like to flash the latest CWM as long as 4G will still work.
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It doesn't have any affect on 4g.

That's a nice change. Thanks!!

One final question before I become a serial flasher trying a few ROMs that just interest me so much. Which recovery? I want to eventually run Cyanogenmod, that is, unless I like something else better than CM (it was hard to beat on my Photon). Should I use the one I can install through ROM Manager, TWRP, or a CWM based recovery (such as the one linked on CM's webpage)? Whichever it is needs to work installing CM.

TWRP is cool, but wasn't working for downloading as of yesterday (for me). I used Rom Manager since it was easy, quick, and I'm very used to them. I always hesitate a bit on CWM just because I remember some bricking issues on the SGS3, however, it never happened to me.

Cool, Thanks! I'm familiar with CWM but for some reason I don't have the same good feel with the GS4 as I did with other devices. I guess I'll go with Rom Manager.
Let the flashing begin!!

Heatshiver said:
TWRP is cool, but wasn't working for downloading as of yesterday (for me). I used Rom Manager since it was easy, quick, and I'm very used to them. I always hesitate a bit on CWM just because I remember some bricking issues on the SGS3, however, it never happened to me.
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FernBch said:
Cool, Thanks! I'm familiar with CWM but for some reason I don't have the same good feel with the GS4 as I did with other devices. I guess I'll go with Rom Manager.
Let the flashing begin!!
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If you guys want to switch between recoveries you just flash the other ones. I've posted a few zips that i use to switch between recoveries.
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.2 Touch zip here
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.6 Touch zip here
TWRP 2.5.0.2 zip here

Surge, do you by chance have the latest TWRP? I'd really like to give that a go.

Heatshiver said:
Surge, do you by chance have the latest TWRP? I'd really like to give that a go.
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I have 2.6.0.0 but I don't recommend using it. I personally use 2.5.0.2 and if you were talking about 2.6.1.0 I don't think anyone has complied it for the Verizon gs4.
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I was thinking 2.6.0.0, any particular reason not use it, or just preference?

Heatshiver said:
I was thinking 2.6.0.0, any particular reason not use it, or just preference?
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It freezes on the boot logo too often and in general isn't as stable as 2.5.0.2 also I hate the new placement of where cache and dalvik-cache are in the wipe menu. It makes it way to easy to accidentally wipe the wrong partitions. But if you want to try it I can make a zip.
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I won't try it immediately, but I would like to some time. If you could post or send a zip, I would appreciate it.

Heatshiver said:
I won't try it immediately, but I would like to some time. If you could post or send a zip, I would appreciate it.
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Surge1223 said:
If you guys want to switch between recoveries you just flash the other ones. I've posted a few zips that i use to switch between recoveries.
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Just made the TWRP 2.6.0.0 zip. Flashed it myself to make sure it works.
Note: I dont recommend flashing twrp 2.6.0.0 unless you knew what you're doing and have a way to restore a recovery. If you do install it you may get stuck on the teamwin blue screen the next time you reboot recovery. Don't freak out, just hold menu + power button for ~15 seconds and the device will shut down. Reboot and it should reboot to twrp this time, without getting stuck on the splash screen
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.2 Touch zip here
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.6 Touch zip here
TWRP 2.5.0.2 zip here
TWRP 2.6.0.0 zip here
TWRP 2.6.3.0 zip here
(9/09/13) Edit: Added TWRP 2.6.0.0
(9/17/13) Edit: Added TWRP 2.6.3.0

Thanks, Surge. I'll probably try it in the coming week, just to give it a go. Disappointing to hear that it isn't up to snuff though.

Surge1223 said:
Just made the TWRP 2.6.0.0 zip. Flashed it myself to make sure it works.
Note: I dont recommend flashing twrp 2.6.0.0 unless you knew what you're doing and have a way to restore a recovery. If you do install it you may get stuck on the teamwin blue screen the next time you reboot recovery. Don't freak out, just hold menu + power button for ~15 seconds and the device will shut down. Reboot and it should reboot to twrp this time, without getting stuck on the splash screen
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.2 Touch zip here
ClockworkMod 6.0.3.6 Touch zip here
TWRP 2.5.0.2 zip here
TWRP 2.6.0.0 zip here
Edit: Added TWRP 2.6.0.0
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I second this version 2.6.0.0 is unstable and not worth using. Look around the forums and you'll find plenty of complaints about it.
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[Q] CWM vs. TWRP?

Are there any clear benefits of one recovery over the other? I'm a fan of TeamWin but I'm comfortable with CWM... Is either recovery clearly superior?
Preference is the deciding factor.
Appreciate my help? Thank me
Not sure which one is better, but i've been using ClockworkMod 4.0.1.4 that came with Revolutionary S-OFF tool and it's worked flawlessly so far.
Do CWM work with Rom Manager
I personally like TWRP for the customization options plus the race horse is kinda cool too.
Nope...
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bluediablito said:
Do CWM work with Rom Manager
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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Yep, I was curious and used rom manager to flash the recovery... worked perfect. I enjoy being able to go into rom manager and select "reboot to recovery" instead of having to hold down button combination (i know, lazy).
mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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How? Where?
Thank you!!!!
karikian said:
How? Where?
Thank you!!!!
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You can just click on the first option in Rom Manager, which is "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". That's pretty much it.
mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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I can confirm that 4.0.1.5 fixes the charging bug as well.
I'm a big fan of Rom Manager. I use it to organize my backups. I've used since day one of the OG Evo and never had a problem with it. If anyone is having any bugs, go into the market and download rom manager and update clockwork mod recovery. Mines working flawlessly!
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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It did on the OG EVO, but so far on the EVO 3D I haven't had any problems.
knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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Funny. That was just a year ago. I am not laughing at you. I am laughing with you.
Sent from a 3VO. Long live the EVO.
Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone
htce3d said:
Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone
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Punctuation is your friend. Use it. Not just to make yourself sound more intelligent, but to help the eyes of those reading it. =D
there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
EDIT:alright so i was able to do a full restore with the newest clockwork. i guess i just got a bad NAND on my stock rom. and the funny thing is the same thing happend with a stock rom on my G2. what causes this damn MD5 error?
That would be appreciated by many here... Don't want to get stuck with no way to restore
PatrickHuey said:
there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
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I installed TWRP, but I'd like to be able to use the CWM Rom Manger. Can I download Rom Manager from the Market, and have it install CWM over my TWRP install?

Install Clockworkmod Recovery after Romracer and Neutrino

Hi everyone,
I just installed Neutrino 2.9 following the main thread instructions and so replacing Clockworkmod Recovery with Romracer Recovery as suggested.
Everything is working fine except I lost most of the Rom Manager functionalities because it require Clockworkmod Recovery installed.
Now I was wondering if I can go back to Clockworkmod and keep Neutrino ROM installed.
Also, will the OTA Update have issues if it does not find Romracer?
Thanks and very good job to anyone is developing these custom ROMs.
Max
You should be able to install ROM Manager's recovery, then flash RomRacer's. That should trick ROM Manager into thinking its recovery is in place, thus giving you back its functionality.
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MJPollard said:
You should be able to install ROM Manager's recovery, then flash RomRacer's. That should trick ROM Manager into thinking its recovery is in place, thus giving you back its functionality.
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Thanks MJ
I actually did it and it worked, I flashed CWM Recovery and then reinstalled RomRacer's again using Rom Manager.
Now Rom Manager shows that I have CWM installed while I don't anymore but at least it released almost all functionalities (except update check).
Bye,
Max
well, I dont have any issues, I have CWM Touch, so I dont give a chainsaw why you have to get only RRRecovery
ovitz said:
....... I dont give a chainsaw why you have to get only RRRecovery
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It is actually strongly suggested by installation guidelines.
Anyway I had to go back to stable CM7.2 because my Atrix started to freeze (or turn off) and to get it back on I have to try several time to remove battery and put it back while holding the button power on.
With CM7.2 it happens less frequently than with Neutrino, of course I can't really say that this is the reason but I need my phone and I had to do something.

[Q] Question regarding TWRP/CWM when flashing CM 10.1

So I was pretty determined to get Cm 10.1 running on my Galaxy Note 2 for Verizon. Before hand, I was using TWRP to do all my ROM flashings but when I tried to use CM 10.1, I was told I must use CWM for it to work properly.
Here's my issue, I tried using CWM but it kept on giving me an error and after searching for awhile, it said its because I'm trying to use TWRP instead of CWM. So I flashed CWM and it gave me the same error. Tried both Touch and regular, downgraded and upgraded to the latest CWM but still same error. So I said **** it and installed the lastest TWRP. Then all the ROMs that were giving me issues started to install flawlessly. Then I went to CWM and it gave me the same error.
Am I doing something wrong when I flash CWM? I tried both Odin and APP Update way and both with same results. After using TWRP for awhile, I actually am starting to like the CWM Touch a lot better and I want to switch but not if its going to be giving me problems every flash.
Any insight would be helpful,
and as always to everyone on this forum, thanks
Just make sure you are using the latest version of TWRP 2.5 and you will be fine. You also may need to re-download your ROM file.
Well I am, in a way, stuck using the TWRP right now but I would like to know if I can actually change it to CWM. And if so, how would I go about doing that? because flashing the CWM alone isn't doing anything for me.
wythyntime said:
Well I am, in a way, stuck using the TWRP right now but I would like to know if I can actually change it to CWM. And if so, how would I go about doing that? because flashing the CWM alone isn't doing anything for me.
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That is the way I have always gone about getting CWM on my phone back when I wanted it. I would just flash over TWRP in TWRP and then reboot system and then reboot back into recovery and it would always be CWM. If it doesnt work for you that way then see if they have a Odin tar and if so follow the instructions to flash it in Odin. They may not have an Odin flashable though, its been a long time since I have used it and on a different phone so....
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Let me actually rephrase this. (My bad for any confusion)
So if I try to flash a rom using TWRP, it goes through without any issues, even the CM rom. But when I flash CWM and try flashing, it gives me the getdevice-"(t0vzwte)"-not exact".. When researching, I was kept on told its because it is running TWRP. I tell them its CWM and they told me to update my CWM. I actually like CWM a bit better, idk why. but I was just trying to get my phone 100% the way I want it.

[Q] Clockworkmod Touch 6.0.3.2 on the Verizon S4, did I mess up?

Could someone help me with this question?
I'm afraid to flash anything until I figure it out and I can't find a response regarding the Verizon S4 anywhere.
I rooted the S4 using the instructions on the site.
Followed all the instructions and flashed OuHS CWM Receovery with LOKI.
Everything has been perfect with the phone. I had ROM Manager running and it wanted to update my Recovery. So I let it update to Clockworkmod 6.0.3.2 Touch.
The recovery works fine, and I created a nandroid with no issues. But I keep reading that I must have a Recovery with LOKI to flash anything.
Does Clockworkmod Touch 6.0.3.2 have LOKI, or do I need to go back to OuHS CWM Recovery?
If so, what's the easiest way to do this since ROM Manager will only flash thier own Recovery.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
thx!
It takes care of it for you. Youre good to go.
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hexitnow said:
It takes care of it for you. Youre good to go.
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So leave Clockworkmod Touch 6.0.3.2?
I am o.k. to start flashing ROMs? Is my bootloader "unlocked" after the following the full root method on my MDK S4?
Thank you for the quick reply!
You can use cwm or twrp. I prefer cwm myself because ive been using it for so long. You cant restore backups on a different recovery tho so if you use twrp to make a backup you cant restore via cwm. The bootloader isnt actually unlocked on the standard phones, hence the need for the patched recoveries. Thats my understanding of it atleast. But using rom manager it flashes the patched recovery for you so youre good to go.
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[HELP] I screwed MDK Loki S4 and can only boot to Download Mode...

Hey guys, I need help.
I consider myself fairly adept at handling rooted devices, but I have not been following development for the GS4 for the last several months and have been running the last release of Synergy before their hiatus.
I was going to try out something different. I always enjoyed Beanstown's Jelly 'Beans', and thought I would try Build 7.
Now I am stuck at the Samsug Galaxy Boot Logo and it never goes to the Custom Boot Screen.
WORSE...I managed to break my recovery...so it will not boot their either.
Only mode I can boot to is Download.
Maybe I am just blind but I searched and could not find any Odin flashable recoveries...does anyone have one? Is there a rooted MDK file out there that I can flash via Odin?
Someone please help
Did you do the proper wipes when flashing the new rom? There arent any odin flashable recoveries for the s4. I would probably use the no wipe mdk image to recover (wont lose any user data) since you have no custom recovery to flash something with. Youll have to start over but youll have a working phone at least.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
Yes...I always wipe well when I am flashing. Almost every problem I have ever had going back to the Droid 1 was from a Dirty Wipe. I also tried searching for issues and warnings before moving forward...but did not find anything with my searches.
So just to be sure I have this right...start with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259&highlight=mdk
Then re-root as I did originally
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
Then I can reflash CWM Recovery from Rom Manager? Will it automatically flash loki'd version?
Finally once there...can I just flash Beantown's Jelly Beans Build 7 or do I need to update the radios first? Can I use the just the MJ7 modem from the post below or do I need other parts updated too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487298
Thanks all!
jbg25 said:
Yes...I always wipe well when I am flashing. Almost every problem I have ever had going back to the Droid 1 was from a Dirty Wipe. I also tried searching for issues and warnings before moving forward...but did not find anything with my searches.
So just to be sure I have this right...start with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259&highlight=mdk
Then re-root as I did originally
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
Then I can reflash CWM Recovery from Rom Manager? Will it automatically flash loki'd version?
Finally once there...can I just flash Beantown's Jelly Beans Build 7 or do I need to update the radios first? Can I use the just the MJ7 modem from the post below or do I need other parts updated too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487298
Thanks all!
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Yeah looks like you got everything in order. Rom manager or rom toolbox will auto loki the recoveries. No need to update radios when flashing beans either. Itll already have the radios included unless your wanting to flash the mj7 radio seperately then I believe youll be ok doing that. I havent done alot of reading on the newest radios.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
Back up and running with stock rooted MDK and CWM Recovery.
Now to try and flash a ROM.
jbg25 said:
Back up and running with stock rooted MDK and CWM Recovery.
Now to try and flash a ROM.
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good deal just saw your pm was gonna say flash mdk odin but it looks like you found it
beanstown106 said:
good deal just saw your pm was gonna say flash mdk odin but it looks like you found it
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Thanks for getting back to me! :good:
I am up and running...but with but not with 'Beans' Build 7 ... I have tried everything...and no matter what it stalls at the SGS4 Splash Screen and never progresses.
I thought maybe it was the new recovery I flashed ( CWM Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4) .... BUT I got Hyperdrive to install and boot. So maybe my SGS4 just doesn't like Beans...which sucks cause I ran that almost exclusively on my SGS3.
jbg25 said:
Thanks for getting back to me! :good:
I am up and running...but with but not with 'Beans' Build 7 ... I have tried everything...and no matter what it stalls at the SGS4 Splash Screen and never progresses.
I thought maybe it was the new recovery I flashed ( CWM Touch Recovery 6.0.4.4) .... BUT I got Hyperdrive to install and boot. So maybe my SGS4 just doesn't like Beans...which sucks cause I ran that almost exclusively on my SGS3.
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Try TWRP 2.5.0.2.
Most of the devs use it.
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Mightycaptain said:
Try TWRP 2.5.0.2.
Most of the devs use it.
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I downloaded and installed the latest TWRP 2.6.3.0 from DsLNeXuS's Recovery Tools App as Goo Manager is not finding a recovery for my device.
Still no good...nothing I do makes Beans Build 7 work ....
jbg25 said:
I downloaded and installed the latest TWRP 2.6.3.0 from DsLNeXuS's Recovery Tools App as Goo Manager is not finding a recovery for my device.
Still no good...nothing I do makes Beans Build 7 work ....
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Go here. Get 2.5.0.2
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/jfltevzw
Instructions
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/181
At the bottom of the page.
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Or flash this in recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45006486
I would reboot to recovery after flashing to make you got it on the right version.
Then make sure you can still boot back to your rom.
Then go back to recovery
Wipe
Factory reset.
Advanced
Check system, Data, davlik and cache
Wipe
Go back to main screen
Install
Fund your rom to flash.
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Me too. I tried the [ROM][TW4.3]STOCK-ROOTED-MJ7-AROMA-LOKI'd ROM with CWMR. Wiped Dalvik. Cache, Ractory Rest/Data. Seemed to install fine but then hung at "Custom". Fortunately I was able to a Nandroid Restore but not sure where this went wrong. Finally got TWRP to install after several failed GooManager attempts over the past month. May CWMR is the problem.

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