[Q] CWM vs. TWRP? - HTC EVO 3D

Are there any clear benefits of one recovery over the other? I'm a fan of TeamWin but I'm comfortable with CWM... Is either recovery clearly superior?

Preference is the deciding factor.
Appreciate my help? Thank me

Not sure which one is better, but i've been using ClockworkMod 4.0.1.4 that came with Revolutionary S-OFF tool and it's worked flawlessly so far.

Do CWM work with Rom Manager

I personally like TWRP for the customization options plus the race horse is kinda cool too.

Nope...
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bluediablito said:
Do CWM work with Rom Manager
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.

mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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Yep, I was curious and used rom manager to flash the recovery... worked perfect. I enjoy being able to go into rom manager and select "reboot to recovery" instead of having to hold down button combination (i know, lazy).

mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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How? Where?
Thank you!!!!

karikian said:
How? Where?
Thank you!!!!
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You can just click on the first option in Rom Manager, which is "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". That's pretty much it.

mswlogo said:
Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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I can confirm that 4.0.1.5 fixes the charging bug as well.

I'm a big fan of Rom Manager. I use it to organize my backups. I've used since day one of the OG Evo and never had a problem with it. If anyone is having any bugs, go into the market and download rom manager and update clockwork mod recovery. Mines working flawlessly!

I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.

knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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It did on the OG EVO, but so far on the EVO 3D I haven't had any problems.

knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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Funny. That was just a year ago. I am not laughing at you. I am laughing with you.
Sent from a 3VO. Long live the EVO.

Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone

htce3d said:
Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone
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Punctuation is your friend. Use it. Not just to make yourself sound more intelligent, but to help the eyes of those reading it. =D

there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
EDIT:alright so i was able to do a full restore with the newest clockwork. i guess i just got a bad NAND on my stock rom. and the funny thing is the same thing happend with a stock rom on my G2. what causes this damn MD5 error?

That would be appreciated by many here... Don't want to get stuck with no way to restore
PatrickHuey said:
there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
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I installed TWRP, but I'd like to be able to use the CWM Rom Manger. Can I download Rom Manager from the Market, and have it install CWM over my TWRP install?

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Issue with ROM Manager

Hi everyone.
I'm pretty new to android, but I'm quite good at following instructions. Basically I've tried doing a nandroid backup with ROM Manager and everytime it reboots to make a backup it goes to a black screen with a phone in the middle of the screen with a red warning sign next to it. I've always tried booting into recovery and I get the same result. I first found this out while trying to follow the instructions for replacing the status and battery icons. Has anyone else had this issue?
I'm using ROM Manager v3.0.0.1 on a stock HTC MySense ROM from TMO running Android v2.2.1.
Thanks in advance for anyone that knows what I'm apparently doing wrong.
when you opened ROM Manager did you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"? if not try that, it's the only time mine has what your's is doing. I got a little excited to flash Iced-Glacier when I first got the phone and accidentally skipped that step and had same issue
Yeah I first clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it currently says Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 2.5.1.2. I just redid the flash and tried to boot into recovery mode and I'm still getting that error picture upon reboot.
Is there a setting on the phone somewhere that would cause this?
I am not positive 100% but I think I know what you mean; and I had it once due to very low battery charge. See if it is the problem or not.
infraled said:
Yeah I first clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it currently says Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 2.5.1.2. I just redid the flash and tried to boot into recovery mode and I'm still getting that error picture upon reboot.
Is there a setting on the phone somewhere that would cause this?
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The phone with the triangle is the stock recovery image. Others have had to try flash the ClockworkMod Recovery several times. You may need to as well.
this is what i did, not sure if your doing the same thing or not. i clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, MY4G came up and i clicked that and then clicked on backup current rom.
Alright so I've tried it with a full battery and I had the same result. I also tried reflashing several times with the current version and rebooting. I even tried to load some of the older versions of clockwork through ROM Manager and everytime I tried it spits out an error. I don't understand how I could be having such a hard time with something everyone seems to be able to do effortlessly.
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R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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Really? I have not heard that...I'll have to check up on that. It seems that this problem would be more common, but I guess not as I have had little luck in finding information on my own about this problem.
Just in case anyone is following this thread with the same problem as me, this is the post that the previous poster was referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852905&highlight=recovery
UPDATE:
Ok I figured out what was wrong. Apparently although I had root access on my phone and able to run things like Titanium Pro and Adfree and others with root privileges it wasn't good enough.
I followed the instructions here on how to permaroot your phone by pushing gfree to it. Once I did that I attempted to manually flash clockworkmod, which I ended up running into other issues. On a lark I tried installing clockworkmod through ROM Manager after permarooting and it finally installed it properly!
I love doing stuff like this, thanks to everyone for their input as it guided me to finally solving this. I'm off to do a nandroid backup now.
krypto16 said:
R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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I have NEVER been able to flash Recovery with ROM manager. It says it does it but corrupts if everytime! Note: There has been some recent updates to ROM Manager and I haven't tried lately.
krypto16 said:
R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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IIRC the security protocol doesn't have to be off to flash clockwork ROM you do have to be rooted, VISONary.apk of course. I've turned my S=on just to make sure and it [clockworkROM] works pretty flawlessly.
Hey hey, it's great to see infraled out here! I am rooted/S=Off via the first VISIONary thread that was posted...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
I installed Clockwork, flashed Clockwork Recovery and was expecting to have to do it twice, as outlined in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
It only took one shot for me and it worked perfectly. The very first try, I powered off, powered on w/ vol down, went into Recovery and wham, there was Clockwork in its green glory. I figured I was just lucky and that once I rebooted, it would be lost and I'd have to flash again. Not so. Did a backup right away, worked flawlessly.
Looking forward to Iced Glacier, eVil and Cyanogen over the holiday break...
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Looking forward to Iced Glacier, eVil and Cyanogen over the holiday break...
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Cyanogen Gets my vote... But i've always loved T/DB's ROMS.
Recently rooted My new MyTouch 4G, downloaded the paid version of rom manager. I didn't understand why there are none of the current roms like the iced glacier, roms made by evil and several others listed as possible roms for flashing. The only roms are the cyanogenmod nightly builds. The cyanogenmod 6.1.2 RC2 isn't listed either. Do I need to do anything to get those listed or is that just the way it is???
Thank you,
Vinny

ClockworkMod Recovery Native Support

ClockworkMod Recovery now has NATIVE support for the EVO 3D...
Just Download from the market, select the phone, and click Install...
For those that dont want to use TEAMWIN Recovery, or were unable to get a recovery to flash from S-OFF Process...
thanks, i might use it because i like to manage my backups in the UI, hopefully there wont be any problems like we had in the Evo 4G
Spyderekz said:
thanks, i might use it because i like to manage my backups in the UI, hopefully there wont be any problems like we had in the Evo 4G
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Yeah, at one point clockworkmod didn't backup the WiMax RSA keys (doh!)
I'm using CWM now though, I used Amon RA's recovery on the OG EVO. So far so good.
Does the battery charge with fastboot off and the phone off now (ie is it a new version of cwm for the Evo 3d)?
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Does the battery charge with fastboot off and the phone off now (ie is it a new version of cwm for the Evo 3d)?
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Not sure, I'm trying to find a changelog for CWM, having a little trouble finding it.
EDIT: found this, but doesn't specify minor revisions.
http://gh-pages.clockworkmod.com/ROMManagerManifest/CHANGELOG.txt
Working good...
Did a full backup/restore to test.... also flashed 2 roms and 1 kernel...
I have CWM Recovery installed from Revolution.
I installed Clockwork Mod Rom Manager and before I try to update I wanted to see what thinks I have and what it's going to upgrade too.
But after poking through the other options it thinks I have NO Clockwork recovery installed.
U have to install the one from the Rom Manager App
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Does the battery charge with fastboot off and the phone off now (ie is it a new version of cwm for the Evo 3d)?
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The newest version of ClockworkMod fixes this issue.
its frustrating because i got the MD5 error after trying to restore my stock NAND, and i dont know how to fix it without ADB
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its frustrating because i got the MD5 error after trying to restore my stock NAND, and i dont know how to fix it without ADB
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And you're using the same version of CWM to create and restore the band?
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Need Help Please!

Hey All,
Ok so I have a problem and please excuse the dumb questions as I am new to Motorola (I came from the EVO).My device is rooted and bootstrap recovery installed and I created a backup of my normal setup. I tried to install the Alien ROM (I am not unlocked) and I did a wipe ect. the ROM will boot but I can't get past the touch here Android icon and I get a bunch of force closes.
I turned the phone off, put the wall charger in and I can not get back into recovery by holding the power and volume down to install my nandroid. My phone is stuck.....I can see fastboot but I don't know how to get back into my recovery.
Please help!!!!
Now that I think of it, my backup was on internal and the wipe might have erased the backup and bootstrap.....what the heck do I do now?
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Now that I think of it, my backup was on internal and the wipe might have erased the backup and bootstrap.....what the heck do I do now?
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Did you install the ROM and theme all in one session?
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Now that I think of it, my backup was on internal and the wipe might have erased the backup and bootstrap.....what the heck do I do now?
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It probably didn't erase your backup. You can always use rsdlite and flash cm5.
[email protected] said:
Did you install the ROM and theme all in one session?
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Thats correct. Flashed ROM and then Flashed Theme
[email protected] said:
Did you install the ROM and theme all in one session?
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Thats probably where I ran into an issue....as I see it says flash zip then reboot. Then flash theme after.... I am going to try and use RSD lite and CM5. Then go from there.
Mustangmatt1966 said:
Thats probably where I ran into an issue....as I see it says flash zip then reboot. Then flash theme after.... I am going to try and use RSD lite and CM5. Then go from there.
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Yes exactly.you will be fine this way
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Yes exactly.you will be fine this way
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Thanks MAX, I am so used to the EVO and flashing a rom and theme in the same recovery I didnt think twice about it....Lesson learned.
So I need to use RSD Lite and flash CM5. Then root again, install bootstrap, backup current rom. Then flash Alien, reboot, then flash theme and I should be ok?
Thanks for all of the help everyone, I got it resolved and fixed

Tried to upgrade to CM10 Now im stuck in a bootloop

I was on speed rom 7.5, but i liked the way cm10 looked so I wiped my data and all that and flashed it. My phone hasn't done anything but stay on the cyanogen rotating thing for like 15 minutes. Please help. (Ps. I was dumb and didnt make a nandroid backup -_-)
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I was on speed rom 7.5, but i liked the way cm10 looked so I wiped my data and all that and flashed it. My phone hasn't done anything but stay on the cyanogen rotating thing for like 15 minutes. Please help. (Ps. I was dumb and didnt make a nandroid backup -_-)
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Im not an expert, but did you create a backup? or try wiping twice over and re-installing.
Need a littlemore information. Are you s-off? What recovery are you using?
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xndabox said:
Need a littlemore information. Are you s-off? What recovery are you using?
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Im using 4EXT And I am not S-OFF
Wow it bootlooped all night ;(
Ventus_zx said:
Im using 4EXT And I am not S-OFF
Wow it bootlooped all night ;(
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same thing happened to my phone with CM 10, so i ended up instaling the android revolution rom for the time being.
What recovery are you using? Use 4ext if you aren't, try again, if it loops more than once, you either forgot to wipe before install or you need to flash the kernel manually.
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I was on speed rom 7.5, but i liked the way cm10 looked so I wiped my data and all that and flashed it. My phone hasn't done anything but stay on the cyanogen rotating thing for like 15 minutes. Please help. (Ps. I was dumb and didnt make a nandroid backup -_-)
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I also had a problem when I flashed Speedrom but with versions 6.5 which I had previously working perfectly but then decided to switch to SS3 and then switch back. Now I also had the bootloop issue thing where the thing would just keep spinning. So I re-flashed SS3 with the faux kernel and then just did the two things:
4EXT Recovery btw
Wipe data/factory reset
Clear dalvik cache
Then install the rom and once done, go back to menu and reboot from recovery. It should tell you that the previously used boot.img will be used (that is what I get when I flash my roms and they work perfectly).
+1 is this helped!
Thanks it worked! Though I switxhed back to speed rom lol
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Nice! And no problem, just happy your phone's back to normal! =)

Q: Errors trying to flast ROMs

Suddenly I cannot flash ROMs. I've downloaded, and have tried to flash, 2 ROMs. They are downloaded correctly, too. I've downloaded them multiple times as well.
When I try to flash, it gives me a bunch of prop errors and then gives me an error that the ROM cannot be flashed. I am able to restore backups, though.
I'm not sure what's causing this, as it happened out of the blue. A few days ago I flashed a ROM fine but reverted back to my original ROM because I did not like the other ROM.
I always wipe data and wipe system, and have even wiped cache. Really I'm at a loss her so any help would be greatly appreciated.
what two roms are you trying to flash and on what recovery/version?
B_I_N_G_E said:
what two roms are you trying to flash and on what recovery/version?
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Tried the Pac-Man ROM and another ROM that I forgot the name of. Recovery is TWRP but I'm not sure what version. It's the version that installed a long time ago when I first rooted and unlocked the device, so it's definitely not the newest version.
BoostinBen said:
Tried the Pac-Man ROM and another ROM that I forgot the name of. Recovery is TWRP but I'm not sure what version. It's the version that installed a long time ago when I first rooted and unlocked the device, so it's definitely not the newest version.
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Download goo manager from play store. Open, menu button, install OpenRecoveryScript. That will update TWRP. Then try again.
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B_I_N_G_E said:
what two roms are you trying to flash and on what recovery/version?
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Download goo manager from play store. Open, menu button, install OpenRecoveryScript. That will update TWRP. Then try again.
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Unfortunately I got the same error, albeit it seemed to move along a little more than before. The exact error is as follows:
"file_getprop: failed to stat /sdcard/kernal.pro. Error flashing zip (and a few other irrelevant things)"
BoostinBen said:
Tried the Pac-Man ROM and another ROM that I forgot the name of. Recovery is TWRP but I'm not sure what version. It's the version that installed a long time ago when I first rooted and unlocked the device, so it's definitely not the newest version.
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In the older Casual root methods the installed recovery was for the international Note 2. and caused some issues on our VZW version.
As was mentioned, install the newest TWRP or CWM and you should be fine.
Also.... remember flashing between a 4.3 ROM and 4.2 and earlier have some differences. Make sure to really read and reread the OP to any ROM you are flashing as most have subtle differences in the recommended method to flash and recovery suggested.
Milimbar said:
In the older Casual root methods the installed recovery was for the international Note 2. and caused some issues on our VZW version.
As was mentioned, install the newest TWRP or CWM and you should be fine.
Also.... remember flashing between a 4.3 ROM and 4.2 and earlier have some differences. Make sure to really read and reread the OP to any ROM you are flashing as most have subtle differences in the recommended method to flash and recovery suggested.
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Right now I'm on JellyBeans, which is a great ROM. I just wanted to try something different. That ROM is 4.1.2, IIRC.
CWM works? Hrm...gotta give that a try considering I bought it a while ago.
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Right now I'm on JellyBeans, which is a great ROM. I just wanted to try something different. That ROM is 4.1.2, IIRC.
CWM works? Hrm...gotta give that a try considering I bought it a while ago.
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Tried CMW and I get the same error about the kernal.prop
I'm running Saber's kernal. Could it be something with that?
BoostinBen said:
Tried CMW and I get the same error about the kernal.prop
I'm running Saber's kernal. Could it be something with that?
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I'm going to say the quote.
"Its time for a date with Odin." - @droidstyle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181
Just start from scratch and you will be good.
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BoostedB18C said:
I'm going to say the quote.
"Its time for a date with Odin." - @droidstyle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181
Just start from scratch and you will be good.
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Thanks. I'll give this a try and report back.
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Interesting. I am able to load ROMs with the Aroma installer just fine, just not any that are regular ZIP files.
BoostinBen said:
Interesting. I am able to load ROMs with the Aroma installer just fine, just not any that are regular ZIP files.
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Any ideas why zip installs give me a kernal.prop error?
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Any ideas why zip installs give me a kernal.prop error?
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Have you tried just flashing a new kernel? there was some issues with a few versions of sabre kernel.... get the newest one or Perseus or something else.
Install the newest version of your recovery (CWM or TWRP)
Boot into recovery.
Clear dalvik/cache
Flash your kernel
Clear dalvik and cache again (just because thats what i do, no idea if its needed)
Test your installed ROM or just install a new ROM following the instructions in the OP of the ROM thread...
If there is no install instructions, I always:
Make a nandroid backup!
Clear dalvik/cache
Factory reset (wipe all but SD card, depending on your recovery)
Install ROM
Clear dalvik and cache again
Install GAPPS (Google Apps package) if not included in ROM
Reboot system
Profit?
Good Luck, report success/failure
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Any ideas why zip installs give me a kernal.prop error?
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What kernel are you using?
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What kernel are you using?
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I'm using Saber's overclocked one. I will grab another kernal and give it a shot and report back.
Got this fixed by switching to another kernel.

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