Hi there,
Yesterday i succesfully rooted and installed CyanogenMod 10.2 on my Galaxy Player (YP-G1) \o/
At start, with no app launched, the experience seems smooth, but then i noticed that about 310 Mo of memory was used, it left me with only 50 Mo. With the the samsung stock rom, it used 100-150 Mo less.
So as soon as i start something, memory gets full and the device becomes sluggish.
I'm trying to remove some default apps but i've got the feeling that it's because of android 4.3
So...
1) It is possible to even use 4.3 with so few memory available ?
2) If not, what's the best rom for a galaxy player ? With "best" i mean one that is smooth/fast/low memory usage.
To be more specific: what's the memory usage of, say, android 2 vs 4 ?
Synchronyme said:
Hi there,
Yesterday i succesfully rooted and installed CyanogenMod 10.2 on my Galaxy Player (YP-G1) \o/
At start, with no app launched, the experience seems smooth, but then i noticed that about 310 Mo of memory was used, it left me with only 50 Mo. With the the samsung stock rom, it used 100-150 Mo less.
So as soon as i start something, memory gets full and the device becomes sluggish.
I'm trying to remove some default apps but i've got the feeling that it's because of android 4.3
So...
1) It is possible to even use 4.3 with so few memory available ?
2) If not, what's the best rom for a galaxy player ? With "best" i mean one that is smooth/fast/low memory usage.
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CM10.1 and CM10.2 are a lot more ram intensive than any of the stock based roms out there. You can use Greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en to freeze apps that are using the most ram. Also you can use All-in-One Toolbox https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.toolbox.full&hl=en to freeze apps from even starting up until you access them. The best method I found was using Auto Memory Manager https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&hl=en with Clean Master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard&hl=en. I'd set AMM with 10 40 60 120 140 160, and had CM clear ram when 95% of it was used when you turn off the screen. Make sure you allow both to be kept alive by the other. This gave me available ram of 100-120 most of the time. Good luck.
The best rom for our player is a highly subjective topic. For me, I believe the best rom is REDD from iJimanic. It is just a modified version of the stock rom, but it benefits from slightly better ram management, along with no weird issues. However, I will say it doesn't have the best battery life (it's better than stock though).
The memory usage really depends on the device. For instance, on our device CM10.1 uses about 270-310mb, but on my brothers T-mobile GS2 it was using about 350-400mb. Our devices on the other hand are limited in the fact that they have 512mb.
Synchronyme said:
Hi there,
Yesterday i succesfully rooted and installed CyanogenMod 10.2 on my Galaxy Player (YP-G1) \o/
At start, with no app launched, the experience seems smooth, but then i noticed that about 310 Mo of memory was used, it left me with only 50 Mo. With the the samsung stock rom, it used 100-150 Mo less.
So as soon as i start something, memory gets full and the device becomes sluggish.
I'm trying to remove some default apps but i've got the feeling that it's because of android 4.3
So...
1) It is possible to even use 4.3 with so few memory available ?
2) If not, what's the best rom for a galaxy player ? With "best" i mean one that is smooth/fast/low memory usage.
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You can use 4.3 with very low memory. Android will temporarily stop background processes when your active apps need more ram.
I personally use App Quarantine to freeze applications and system apps that I don't need, take a look at your list of running and cached applications.
You will also want to reduce your MinFree value to 25-50MB, this will keep more apps active when you run low on memory and also prevent the continuous app stop/start.
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Hi,
Has anyone else noticed this? When I freeze bloatware in Titanium Backup on a stock Sammy rom, my device begins te lag a lot more than usual. But when I leave all of the bloatware, it's way smoother, is this even possible?
herbivoor said:
Hi,
Has anyone else noticed this? When I freeze bloatware in Titanium Backup on a stock Sammy rom, my device begins te lag a lot more than usual. But when I leave all of the bloatware, it's way smoother, is this even possible?
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U might have frozen them but the phone still tries to activate them through startup.
Download ES task manager and remove the start up of the bloat you froze and then reboot the phone.
What apps have you frozen?
slaphead20 said:
What apps have you frozen?
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Nothing really special;
Google Play Video
Google Play Books
Gmail
Google Talk
Talkback
Samsung Apps
Music Hub
Video Hub
S Suggest
All Share Play
Chaton
S Voice
You catch my drift, I guess. Just basic stuff I don't ever use. I've got the same effect when I just disable them in Applications manager.
Also, I flashed LL5 recently and I didn't disable anything at all, runs smoother now but I do notice some lags sometimes as I run out of ram.
Picture attached is with just th XDA app, mail and pocket open. When I press 'clear memory' it jumps to 692.
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What picture?
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Added it now, XDA-app was acting funky.
Hmmmm I'd suggest downloading one of the de-bloat mods or using a custom rom such as WanamLite or Omega with bloatware removed or Foxhound Essentials (Skinny rom) or Hyperlight. Any rom can be stripped of fat but some do it easier. Hyperlight is only 230mb in size where as most roms are around 800mb although I found this version of hyperlight to be a bit laggy at times. I used to find WanamLite laggy at times but this current version (in my sig) and without all the crapsung apps runs so smooth. .
If you want to squeeze in a bit more ram, use Perseus kernel which raises the limit to 856mb of ram compared to your 832. Don't worry if you get to down to around 120mb free, just means apps you use are in ram. If you see apps you never use being cached in ram then use an app like Autostarts to disable them from loading at boot or just freeze them totally
DramatikBeats said:
Hmmmm I'd suggest downloading one of the de-bloat mods or using a custom rom such as WanamLite or Omega with bloatware removed or Foxhound Essentials (Skinny rom) or Hyperlight. Any rom can be stripped of fat but some do it easier. Hyperlight is only 230mb in size where as most roms are around 800mb although I found this version of hyperlight to be a bit laggy at times. I used to find WanamLite laggy at times but this current version (in my sig) and without all the crapsung apps runs so smooth. .
If you want to squeeze in a bit more ram, use Perseus kernel which raises the limit to 856mb of ram compared to your 832. Don't worry if you get to down to around 120mb free, just means apps you use are in ram. If you see apps you never use being cached in ram then use an app like Autostarts to disable them from loading at boot or just freeze them totally
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No offence to the hard working developers and all, but I've tried about 2 dozen of 3rd party roms / custom roms so far and yet, I haven't seen any rom that doesn't lag at all and I always keep getting back to stock Sammy rom.
Right now I'm on stock 4.1.2 with stock everything and no apps disabled or whatsoever and it runs like a motherf*cking train.
Okay, ram usage is at ~100-150 MBs free, but seems to be waaaay smoother than stock rom with disabled apps or debloated. Don't know why though.
Anyways, thanks for your help and for the replies!
I recently got android 4.0.4 for my phone. I used this link: http://www.arulraj.net/2012/07/upgrade-samsung-galaxy-5-to-ice-cream-sandwich.html The problem is that my phone is extremely slow and many apps just force close on start. How can i speed up my phone? I was researching this problem and many ppl said something about kernels. Should I get that for my phone and how will it help? Also, what apps help make it faster and what else can i do to make my phone faster?Btw the phone is rooted.
Banana1238 said:
I recently got android 4.0.4 for my phone. I used this link: http://www.arulraj.net/2012/07/upgrade-samsung-galaxy-5-to-ice-cream-sandwich.html The problem is that my phone is extremely slow and many apps just force close on start. How can i speed up my phone? I was researching this problem and many ppl said something about kernels. Should I get that for my phone and how will it help? Also, what apps help make it faster and what else can i do to make my phone faster?Btw the phone is rooted.
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Don't touch the kernel if you are inexperienced in such things you will just screw the rom up... go into developement settings and overclock your cpu to 768mhz for a start. governer... smartass v2 should be fine. use a task manager to kill background apps etc. there are many things you can do but remember that 4.0 has higher requirements than our phone has so performance will always be an issue... if u want have a look into swap partitions, cpu overclocking, cpu governers, I/O Schedulers, Caching etc... there is so much to tweaking performance to get the most out of your device
When I stop apps that r running, they just come back within 5 seconds. Also, i am already at 768mhz. 768 mhz has made it a little faster, but some apps wont launch and just stop when i launch them. Is there a way to get them to work?
Banana1238 said:
When I stop apps that r running, they just come back within 5 seconds. Also, i am already at 768mhz. 768 mhz has made it a little faster, but some apps wont launch and just stop when i launch them. Is there a way to get them to work?
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I really would suggest you change roms mate, either CyanogenMod 7.2 or 10.1
10.1 is Android 4.2 and 7.2 is 2.3.7
naturally 7.2 is fastest and most stable.
But why is it that some apps work and others dont?
How about increasing the ram? Can I do that?
Will this work? http://www.droidiser.com/2012/05/how-to-increase-internal-memory-and-ram.html
Banana1238 said:
Will this work? http://www.droidiser.com/2012/05/how-to-increase-internal-memory-and-ram.html
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You cannot increase the RAM like in a computer as it is attached to the motherboard directly. That link describes using a swap partition on the sd that acts kind of like ram but it is not ram itself, it is slower than ram and less efficent however swap can be useful. I have tried swap and noticed no real difference in performance at all but you could sure try it... just remember to enable swap in the cyanogenmod settings otherwise the partition will do nothing and u lose valuable sd card space
brianmillar9 said:
I really would suggest you change roms mate, either CyanogenMod 7.2 or 10.1
10.1 is Android 4.2 and 7.2 is 2.3.7
naturally 7.2 is fastest and most stable.
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i'm using CM7,should i use CM10 or MIUI or still using CM7?
sorry about my english
Use seeder app set to aggresive, no need to oc just set gov to performance. If you not use any ramscript use romtool box go to memory manager try optimum preset. And also go to sd booster to boost your sd speed cache.
That's all Regards
Sent from East Borneo Island using Honey Bear's Phone
Honestly, make an effort to purchase a new phone. I've had a i5000 foir almost a year and sometimes I almost went crazy due to its slowness.
You can try using a (fast) sdcard as supplementary memory, but it will be still slow. And no way to use a CyanogenMod later than 7.2. Stick with this at minimum.
But you can find really good bargains at ebay. Please consider it.
I did use the search function. There was a similar thread posted a day ago but I'd like to do a more in-depth query here. The more extensive one has been dormant since April so I figure that I might as well open a new one.
I'm sorry if this sounds like a rant, but I want to do a serious investigation of the multitasking woes in the S3.
Just some background of my experiences:
Having flashed the latest official (ending with MF6), I must say that multitasking is just atrocious and my apps close for every 3rd one I open. RAM is always full, and once cleared it is bogged down again. And again. And again. The iPhone 4, with 512 MB RAM, can manage better than this. The RAM heavy ones (Facebook, Chrome, YT, etc.) are the worst of all-as they close down even when you don't touch the phone for a period of time.
What exactly is using up my RAM? Please don't come back to me with the Free RAM=Wasted RAM argument. I have seen no speed improvement of apps "cached in memory" compared to those that I just opened up.
I remembered back in the days of the S2 release people called 1 GB RAM unnecessary, and to an extent this is true, as the S2 was able to do some serious multitasking of 8-9+ apps without having to close any of them. Other flagships (HTC Sensation) did fine with 768 MB RAM. Heck, the Galaxy S1 seemed fine with 512 MB RAM. The OS can run, camera works fine, I can play videos fine. So where exactly did this 512 MB of extra RAM go, when the Galaxy S3 is upped to 1 GB of RAM?
I have tried zRAM 300 MB, 400 MB, 600 MB. They all make the phone remarkably slow. Initially it does prove to be somewhat useful, but over time multitasking becomes completely hopeless again.
Is there ever going to be a solution to this, or do I really have to get a 2 GB RAM phone to actually be able to use it?
Well, mate, this has been discussed over and over as you may be aware. Honestly, i've lost hope for stock firmwares on multitasking. Some people swear by zram or even swap and while it does work i didn't find the results very good. Someone may come up with a more thorough explanation on how all the ram is being actually used (and it has been written already, i've seen it around) but at this point i just don't really care much.
Bottomline, you have 3 options:
- install some aosp rom and never see this problem again (some others may come up due to lack of sources for exynos)
- compromising speed for multitasking purposes with zram, swap and there were some atempts at plain better multitask management with supercharger and others
- ignore and live with it and try to change your phone for anything else asap - samsung botched this and is making no effort i can see for a fix. If they don't care about you it's only fair you don't care about them either.
I'm aiming for a nexus4 when i find one cheap around. Plenty of power, 2Gb, fastest updates in the business. Should come down in price even more when any new phones hit the market.
This is a really big issue with this phone.
First of all, don't compare it to the iphone, cause the iphone doesn't actually multitask as it freezes apps in the background.
Start downloading something with safari and open another app in iphone. Then the download stops until you switch back to safari.
iOs multitasking philosophie is completely different to android.
Now, having paid 600euros and being unable to multitask is really frustrating. I've tried several things like different roms, external swap, internal swap, zram blah blah.
The truth is that although the stock touchwiz roms offer stuff like multi-window, they are really REALLY laggy in my opinion. I once decided to flash a cm10.1 (aosp) based rom. I haven't regretted since. I felt as if i had a completely new phone. I suggest you try such a rom. you wont regret it.
Also, there are some apps that allow you to freeze background processes. I use Rom Toolbox pro for example and i have frozen many background apps so I've reduced the amount of ram being used. Search on xda, there is a thread about which backgroung services are safe to be frozen.
Also, use greenify. Greenify stops apps from running in the background when you dont need them. Maps for example keep running in the background consuming 20mb for no reason. Greenify such apps so that they consume your ram only when you need them to do so.
Plus, change your LMK settings. The Low Memory Killer is an android service that kills apps when the amount of ram falls beneath a limit. Use an app such as Rom Toolbox to lower your limits so that apps don't get closed so often.
Finally, try zram with the appropriate settings. I use Googy-Max kernel which has bult-in zram support. I use 600mb of zram with 80% swappiness.
Having these things altered i can run at least 5 apps simultaneously without any problems. For example i run facebook and messenger along with whatsapp and skype. When i open the browser to search for something, none of the other apps gets closed.
Ofcourse if you try to run many apps, you may experience app-closing or lags. But remember, the key, is to close apps that you dont need.
Also, if your phone feels laggy just reboot it. For the next 24 hours you ll be fine without any lags.
Hopeless multitasking continues even on CM11 4.4.4. I don't understand what the reason for bad multitasking. When I switch from Dolphin browser to any other app and come just after 5 seconds I find it killed. Even I can't upload a photo to a browser. While I am selecting the, browser page was shut down.
Hello guys,
I do not know if this problem happens to you ...
I use the latest version of CyanogenMod ofical NIGHTLY our LA friend (Caio) with the latest version of Dorimanx Kernel (I do not modified anything in the Kernel, only the sound booseter at + 20db). It is a very good Rom (at the beginning of use without applications without customization etc)
But when I start normally use the ROM (installed my personal applications, synchronizing email, contacts, etc), randomly, the system becomes unstable at times. There is no specific app, even in the launcher, or on the lock screen cell at times gets very lag (this happens dozens of times a day) often need to restart your phone to solve the problem of slowness. But at other times the phone is fast as a plane ...
I suspect it's some application that is running in the background. However I could not identify what ... I uninstalled antivirus, clean master, facebook, limit the number of processes, I put memory killer, and still continue with the issue.
My question is:
You also experience this problem? It is a problem in Rom?
If not, you know some application that enables me to identify what causes this problem? Eg an application that point: The 14:31:21 Avast application consumed 80% of CPU and 800MB ram ..
If anyone can help I thank. Because it does not know what else to do, I can see I'll have to buy a new phone, because in all Roms I installed the Galaxy S2 I go through this problem of Lag (Android 2.x, 4.x, 5.1, Neat Rom etc.) all.
On stock rom as well?
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On stock rom as well?
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Yes, this problem also occurs in the original roms samsung.
What I found most stable was the Neat rom (which is based on Stock rom), but it lacks the advantages lollipop, and I decided to keep the Lollipop. But this Lag / slowness, will make me end up throwing out the window my galaxy s2
John Jefferson said:
Yes, this problem also occurs in the original roms samsung.
What I found most stable was the Neat rom (which is based on Stock rom), but it lacks the advantages lollipop, and I decided to keep the Lollipop. But this Lag / slowness, will make me end up throwing out the window my galaxy s2
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Try KitKat if you still want a reasonably modern rom and fast experience. LP is still full of memory leaks and IMO, is still going to have issues for a while on our phone. The rom I recommend is slimsaber 4.4.4 by fusionjack. Or if you don't like this, try neatrom aosp. KitKat is way more polished than Lollipop and works the way it should. It still has plenty of support (as in there are custom kernels available) for custom kernels (like me ) and developers.
However, KitKat is not perfect for our device just like every other Android version. If you require the YouTube app, you will have to use a youtube mod of an older version, or if you require Skype, you may face issues. GPS can be unreliable, but I guess this is the same with LP.
John Jefferson said:
Yes, this problem also occurs in the original roms samsung.
What I found most stable was the Neat rom (which is based on Stock rom), but it lacks the advantages lollipop, and I decided to keep the Lollipop. But this Lag / slowness, will make me end up throwing out the window my galaxy s2
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+1 for what @gsstudios said
You could also try trimming your device. That may stop a lot of lags
Thanks guys for the suggestions.
From what I saw, it will take a long time for the Lollipop is stable for our GT I9100.
Following the suggestions of you, I returned to KIT KAT, and installed the "[ROM] [MIUI 6] [4.4.4] [I9100] [Blackra1n] [5.7.20] [STABLE] [ROM]
"I'm using it for two days, and did not notice any lag or Bug without mecionar the look is amazing that it has ...
Unfortunately I will have to give up some Lollipop resources for now.
I installed the slimsaber you suggested, however I found it very simplistic ROM. If I have a problem with MIUI, I will migrate to it.
Actually "memory killers" kill the speed of the smartphone. When processes are loaded in RAM, they are ready to be active on demand. If you kill them, before to be ready to start they have to be loaded again in RAM. Android isn't Windows. It doesn't need of a lot of free memory. More RAM is occupied, more fast are the processes. If more free RAM is necessary, kernel will free it.
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
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My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova.....
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Does your phone work well with Sammy official firmware ?
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I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
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Thank you. But I dont have any reboots. My problem isn't about Rebooting. My problem is about insufficient RAM. My phone does't operate well when there are some apps running in the background.
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At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
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At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
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To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
FLooDW said:
To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
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Justin Thought said:
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
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whatsgood said:
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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JohnSmit268 said:
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
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Thank you so much all! I have greenify donation package and now on JellYbean 4.3 I have xposed module too. I greenified most of the apps and it is much more better but still launcher loads widgets and shortcuts after coming back to homepage. However I haven't experienced crash on other apps like in Lollipop ROMs. Actually at this moment I am so confused about which version to flash because from one side I want to use the latest stable Android build Lollipop on the other side I want a stable and fast phone. With Lollipop ROMs it seems not probable. Does Xposed module works without problem on Lollipop ROMs? If yes which xposed installer should I flash. I have tried BlissPop and Archidroid ROMs but not Resurruction Remix yet. I may want to give it a try. Also I want to try a clean Lollipop ROM without restoring the apps but just downloading them from Store. And just the essential ones not all the apps. I have approximately 140-150 Apps on my phone but just 6-7 of them are running all others are greenified. Does this still affect the Ram management? In my opinion the number of apps isn't important as long as there are enough space in internal SD card. Only the running apps are related to RAM management right? So it should not be a matter to have 25 or 250 apps in the phone. Only the running apps in background should affect the performance of RAM. Which ROM do you suggest and with which Kernel?
BlissPop,
ArchiDroid,
ResurrectionRemix,
Any KitKat ROM you offer,
Any Jellybean ROM you offer,
ArchiKernel,
Boeffla Kernel,
Which version of ROM and Kernel
I like the options in Blisspop to customise the ROM but I experience crash issues in almost every app after restoring 150-200 apps. Before restoring i didn't experienced issues but it didn't last long. I generally restore in 20 minutes after flashing a ROM.
Archidroid doesn't have customisation options in the ROM so generally it is my second option to give a try.
I flashed Resurrection Remix only one time 2 or 3 months ago and even though it was a full wipe install I couldn't start the phone with that version it was always in bootloop. So I never tried it again but I may give it a try if you suggest again.
Personally, I always prefered Beoffla Kernel (I don't find a spesific superiority) but for Lollipop it is end of devolopment and there is no stable one for Lollipop. I tried Archi Kernel for it but battery seems more consuming with it.
I believe now the problem isn't about a hardware 'cause the apps doesn't crash with Jellybean. Only they don't stay at memory after changing the apps. I mean multitasking isn't working properly and this should be because of the number of apps. What do you suggest for the apps I used. Is it heavy for S3. Nova Launcher, SwiftKey Keyboard, Jorte Calendar, Beautiful Widgets, Tesla Unread for Nova Launcher, Poweramp Music Player and system apps are running in the background and still phone says only 15 mb free ram. It is so weird how it is 15 mb. My Uncle has an Galaxy Ace 2 and it has about 570 Mb. it also has the same apps except for keyboard app but it has 100-150 mb of free RAM all the time and it is Android 4.1.1 version stock rooted.
How much RAM do the Android OS versions consume for the system?
I am so sorry for long replies. I want to solve this problems until I buy an LG G4 in a few months...
Waiting your comments... Thank you.
Mate in my opinion almost all of the latest lollipop rom builds are stable and perfect with greenify. I myself use Resurrection Remix rom and have no problem but if you don't like it you can try this too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-i9300-t3254215
In the other hand tomorrow the first official cm 13 build will be released and as I tried the unofficial ones they were pretty flawless. You can wait and use them but if you hate bugs use cm 12.1 latest builds. About your launcher I only recommend stock Google now launcher. It is goddamn fast. Don't use nova or anything else, even trebechut is buggy and laggy. And keep in mind : never ever hibernate Google services app and Google now app this can make you slow!! And about kernel: no need for any custom one use the ones that come with the rom. Trust me it will work fine. And I Strongly recommend open gapps they are amazing: www.opengapps.org and don't worry you don't need to tweak anything just keep greenified I always have 300-400 free ram?
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Link to xposed for lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
RAM problems with S3
Bogazicili90 said:
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
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Hi, this is Mohand,
If you're on S3, then apply this procedure to the letter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-archidroid-v2-4-6-power-hands-t2354859
Unless you have hardware problems with your phone (as physical accident) you wouldn't experience any other issue with this custom rom: ArchiDroid-3.1.5
Why use Nova anyway? Stick to default launcher.
And you can use Dark Material for a change with an amazing set of layers.