1. I can't work with one hand....well that's good thus the phone wont drop from my hand
2. The reaction of peeps..I have it few days ago.. when I walk ti work, in the elevator, in the office...all people are staring...one guy told me " Hey, why you dont you buy a TV Monitor (LCD he means) "
Are you proud ti show the Mega or you're like me prefer to fit it in your back pocket?
3. The hardware buttons...now i had s2, s3, note 1, note 2, even s4 for a few weeks.... I didnt have to seek the back button..I just move my hand to the lower right corner of the phone and voila the command is executed. ..but with the Mega I must center my hand and look fir the back button .. thats cz samsung kept the button at the same size as s3 s4 note 2...
4. The challenge is to get the bigger screen as possible in a smaller as possible frame.. the plastic around the screen I like it minimal...just like the LG G2
But afterall..its a great phone and this LCD screen is way better than other amoled on other samsung devices
I dont mind it, the mega is a different beast, with a lot of benefits that comes with a 6.3 screen & great battery. Look the bright side, and stop worrying about what closeminded people think about your choses, instead embrace that we think outside the box.
Peace out...
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My Mega reminds me of one of my favorite quotations..."You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same"!
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I showed my Mega to my class (I teach ICT) the other day and some thought its a Galaxy Note while some (Apple users) were put off by the size. I then pointed out that it's the trend of the smartphones nowadays and that Sony, Nokia, HTC, and ASUS have devices in similar size. I then used it as an opportunity to tell about the class requirement that they have to be able to suggest appropriately specced devices to different types of users. I will use my Mega next week for a demo on smartphones as computers by connecting it to the projector via MHL cable and use bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
This phablet is definitely NOT practical, its humongous and actually comedic in size, can't be used with one hand and probably we look like idiots when taking calls...
And you know what? Those reasons are EXACTLY why I love this phone!
I use mine just fine with one hand... since I have large hands the size is much better compared to other phones
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I use mine just fine with one hand... since I have large hands the size is much better compared to other phones
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Same no problem holding it and typing with a thumb, well other than the usual spelling mistakes
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The LCD is pretty ****ty agains Samsung AMOLED:s
And i would have wanted a faster GPU. Heavy 3D games doesnt work that well.
Other then that i love the size and all.
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The LCD is pretty ****ty agains Samsung AMOLED:s
And i would have wanted a faster GPU. Heavy 3D games doesnt work that well.
Other then that i love the size and all.
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How is the screen sh**ty against AMOLED? The Mega's SC LCD has purer whites, better sunlight legibility, more accurate colors, better viewing angles, more sub pixels (full RGB not pentile), and has longer lifespan. AMOLEDs have yellowish/bluish whites, over saturated colors, black clipping/crush, and the screen deteriorates after several months. This is very obvious when you look at them side by side.
Oh yeah .there is 1 important thing that is really bothering me about the Mega :
No AOSP ROM ??!!!!
Sure aosp will come ... Hope it comes for you guys before I get this device in next few weeks. If not I'll be waiting too ....good luck
√-2$HAYNE-√
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How is the screen sh**ty against AMOLED? The Mega's SC LCD has purer whites, better sunlight legibility, more accurate colors, better viewing angles, more sub pixels (full RGB not pentile), and has longer lifespan. AMOLEDs have yellowish/bluish whites, over saturated colors, black clipping/crush, and the screen deteriorates after several months. This is very obvious when you look at them side by side.
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I agree with whiter whites, better sunlight legibility (due to LCD having brighter LED backlighting), more sub-pixels than only some models (e.g. Note 2 has full RGB AMOLED) and longer lifespan (although it lasts long enough for most). Mega's LCD is far brighter and is very crisp indeed. I don't miss the 1080p resolution one single bit that's for sure.
But... AMOLED has far better viewing angles. No LCD comes even close. I have my Note side by side with my Mega and AMOLED kills the Mega's LCD in viewing angles and color consistency. Oh, and AMOLED (as a technology especially) does not exhibit half the stuff you say. Default setting has over saturated colors / crushed blacks because Samsung decided to. But you can easily change it in the settings to have far more accurate colors as well as less saturation and no crushed blacks. (e.g. Movie mode or the Adobe RGB mode on the S4)
It's the same thing with a Samsung plasma TV. You have to change it to Movie mode for more accurate / natural colors and finer shades of black etc. (which I have it set to)
Have both (wife uses the mega) and as for outdoor viewing they are on par in visibility. Not sure where people are getting that the note 2 has poor outdoor visibility. Also, pictures and videos are cleaner/sharper on the note 2.
But, I love the size of the mega and am thinking of getting one to use for work and keeping the the note 2 for personal and general use. If I didn't have the note 2, I think I would take a mega as my first choice over just about any phone regardless of the 'mid-range' specs everyone likes to sight when knocking it. The phone is capable of almost everything a high end phone can do and on a larger scale.
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I agree with whiter whites, better sunlight legibility (due to LCD having brighter LED backlighting), more sub-pixels than only some models (e.g. Note 2 has full RGB AMOLED) and longer lifespan (although it lasts long enough for most). Mega's LCD is far brighter and is very crisp indeed. I don't miss the 1080p resolution one single bit that's for sure.
But... AMOLED has far better viewing angles. No LCD comes even close. I have my Note side by side with my Mega and AMOLED kills the Mega's LCD in viewing angles and color consistency. Oh, and AMOLED (as a technology especially) does not exhibit half the stuff you say. Default setting has over saturated colors / crushed blacks because Samsung decided to. But you can easily change it in the settings to have far more accurate colors as well as less saturation and no crushed blacks. (e.g. Movie mode or the Adobe RGB mode on the S4)
It's the same thing with a Samsung plasma TV. You have to change it to Movie mode for more accurate / natural colors and finer shades of black etc. (which I have it set to)
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I had the original Note and it had black crush/clipping and yellowish/bluish whites no matter what setting you use. Try reading the forums, it's common. You can minimise it by tweaking the settings but it's still there. Screen deterioration is obvious after using it for several months. Some people even get burn ins and black dots on black background. I don't know about the Note 3, maybe the AMOLED tech has improved.
We have a Panasonic plasma and we get great shades of black no matter what the viewing mode is.
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I had the original Note and it had black crush/clipping and yellowish/bluish whites no matter what setting you use. Try reading the forums, it's common. You can minimise it by tweaking the settings but it's still there. Screen deterioration is obvious after using it for several months. Some people even get burn ins and black dots on black background. I don't know about the Note 3, maybe the AMOLED tech has improved.
We have a Panasonic plasma and we get great shades of black no matter what the viewing mode is.
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That was the original note. My note 1 had the issues you are describing about black crush but that was it. It is still going strong for 1.5 years with my son using it without any deterioration. My note 2 has none of the those issues and have seen very little mention of screen issues with it.
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That was the original note. My note 1 had the issues you are describing about black crush but that was it. It is still going strong for 1.5 years with my son using it without any deterioration. My note 2 has none of the those issues and have seen very little mention of screen issues with it.
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Good on you if you have that experience. Unfortunately lots of people had the same problems I had:
Galaxy note 2 burn in --> LINK
Black spots on screen --> LINK
Yellowish screen --> LINK
More screen problems --> LINK
I'm sure they have improved on those issues but my experience still put me off getting a phone with an AMOLED screen.
Anyway, I'm happier with my Mega's screen. :good:
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Good on you if you have that experience. Unfortunately lots of people had the same problems I had:
Galaxy note 2 burn in --> LINK
Black spots on screen --> LINK
Yellowish screen --> LINK
More screen problems --> LINK
I'm sure they have improved on those issues but my experience still put me off getting a phone with an AMOLED screen.
Anyway, I'm happier with my Mega's screen. :good:
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Did you actually take the time to read the posts you linked?
All these except for 1 is about the note 1 or other older phones (s2) < mainly this.
First link only 1 mention of note 1, no note 2. All other mentions were S2s.
Link 2. More of the same , with the last concluding it was due to physical damage.
Link 3. Don't remember all of it but just the one person with the note 2 having issues.
Link 4: seems all note 1 related. I didn't read all 29 pages but what pages I read seemed like it was only a few people back and forth
My statement was that I had 1 of the note 1 issues (black crush) and that i didn't have any with the note 2. This is after a year's use. Pretty much inferring that the major issues were fixed with this iteration of the amoled screen and no need to speculate that it might be fixed with the N3. Who knows, it might have it's own set of issues. I am sure there are people out there who have had problems with the N2, but I just haven't seen as much mentioned.
Sorry that you had such a bad experience with your OG note. Have you tried/used a note 2? It was/is many levels above the original.
The Mega is a wonderful phone and I will probably end up with one of my own (besides my wife's). You seem to like the LCD panel better whilst I prefer sampled. All I can say is to each his own.
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Did you actually take the time to read the posts you linked?
All these except for 1 is about the note 1 or other older phones (s2) < mainly this.
First link only 1 mention of note 1, no note 2. All other mentions were S2s.
Link 2. More of the same , with the last concluding it was due to physical damage.
Link 3. Don't remember all of it but just the one person with the note 2 having issues.
Link 4: seems all note 1 related. I didn't read all 29 pages but what pages I read seemed like it was only a few people back and forth
My statement was that I had 1 of the note 1 issues (black crush) and that i didn't have any with the note 2. This is after a year's use. Pretty much inferring that the major issues were fixed with this iteration of the amoled screen and no need to speculate that it might be fixed with the N3. Who knows, it might have it's own set of issues. I am sure there are people out there who have had problems with the N2, but I just haven't seen as much mentioned.
Sorry that you had such a bad experience with your OG note. Have you tried/used a note 2? It was/is many levels above the original.
The Mega is a wonderful phone and I will probably end up with one of my own (besides my wife's). You seem to like the LCD panel better whilst I prefer sampled. All I can say is to each his own.
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Sorry bout the links, I searched for them at a haste as I'm doing work at the same time. They are mostly about the Note 1 as that's the device I had. Anyway, I have been quite active in the Note forums when I had it so I know they are real issues. Like you said, to each his own.
The only thing I'm sorta getting annoyed about is I keep touching the bottom of the screen instead of the touch buttons. I guess there's a bit less room in that area compared to the Note 1. I'm fine with having more screen area. I'll get used to it.
Dude I have to say that I was surprised to read this post... you Knock the lcd screen which is probably the most gorgeous lcd I've ever seen with extremely bright whites, incredible depth of saturation, and brilliantly clear picture representation. As far the size your more worried about what people think than the benefits of what the 6 inch screen gives you? Maybe mega jsnt for you man. But I love mine so much I bought 3
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For those of you who got a Note after having a Skyrocket or the SGS2, what are your general impressions?
I just got my Note yesterday, so the jury's still out for me. But so far, I love the size and clarity of the display. The S Pen is a pretty cool toy. However, the black crush issue is making me consider going back to the skyrocket.
What are the pros and cons for you?
Kinda off topic, but does your skyrocket not have the black crush issue? I exchanged my note for another one because of pen accuracy issues, and my new one shows the black crush really badly. The ATT rep said all of the Samsung phones have the black issue, including the skyrocket. My captivate never had the issue. Now that I experience the black issue, I don't know if I want to keep the note.
Edit: Just saw your post in the black crush thread and see that you mentioned that it isn't present on the skyrocket. That might be my new phone if I can't find a fix for this.
I have had 8 skyrockets...and my wife still has one...
The skyrocket has the black crush as well but it is less noticeable because of the smaller screen and lower resolution.
I would go back to the skyrocket if there were not so many units with screen lines and blobs
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Kinda off topic, but does your skyrocket not have the black crush issue? I exchanged my note for another one because of pen accuracy issues, and my new one shows the black crush really badly. The ATT rep said all of the Samsung phones have the black issue, including the skyrocket. My captivate never had the issue. Now that I experience the black issue, I don't know if I want to keep the note.
Edit: Just saw your post in the black crush thread and see that you mentioned that it isn't present on the skyrocket. That might be my new phone if I can't find a fix for this.
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Sigh...I guess my solution is to keep the Note and hope that Samsung addresses this issue. My temporary fix is to adjust settings in a screen adjuster app so the black issue is less noticeable.
I simply started using higher res stuff and its 90% fixed
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Sigh...I guess my solution is to keep the Note and hope that Samsung addresses this issue. My temporary fix is to adjust settings in a screen adjuster app so the black issue is less noticeable.
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Yea its weird the other day i tried that Youtube video "Moving Star field 720p" or whatever and it was horrible pixelation & such. I went to show my GF today and it was 100 times better lol, figures. But i do still see it on some things though. But i figured most devices do have this.
But most of these "new screens" are without a downfall but have many positives over negatives. For example my PS Vita has a beautiful OLED screen. But being its early OLED technology on loading screens you can see what looks like black blobs of paint if you are in a dark room. It is only seen when the pixels are off and only the backlight is on. During some loading screens you will see this. Never will you see any of it during game play. But i guess the Note is more noticeable being it happens in video playback and such.
I had the verizon galaxy nexus....then the tmobile galaxy s2 which has basically the same processer in my new note.....I have to say the more I play with the note the more I like it....my s2 was screaming fast...though we had more developers in that community ....this note is fast but hasn't reached it full potential by any means..we only have a few devs here,plus its so new...give it time this device will be incredible mark my words..
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If I just wanted to play YouTube videos, I could use my browser and that would fix the problem. But I can't even use a wallpaper with dark blacks or it will show that crush all day. It also does it with pictures I take using the camera.
If my Skyrocket has any black crush, it is infinitely better than the Note.
How many of you have helped me report this rather serious graphics issue to Samsung, or the tech blogs like Engadget and Android Police?
Please point all of them to my thread on the subject -- we really need to draw attention to the problem, or they'll never fix it.
Well I owned the Note for 7 days and now I traded it in and got the S2. Here are my thoughts so far.
NOTE - Big BEAUTIFUL screen is great for browsing and gaming. Battery life wasn't great (I thought it would be soon much better). LTE was nice when I had it. One handed operation was something that wasn't enjoyable. Touchwiz lagged a little but not intolerable. Spen was really good.
S2 - Faster stock, not benchmarks but pure going into menus and such. More games are compatible with the S2 then the Note (not even close). Battery life is about 20-30% better with the same use. I was getting 2 hours of screen on Note vs 3 so far on the S2. Perfect size for 1 handed operation. Screen just isn't as clear or bright.
In the end, I am missing the Note. I just refuse to pay top dollar for something that is going to take months to have applications modified for it. Man that screen on the Note is GOREGEOUS!!
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Well I owned the Note for 7 days and now I traded it in and got the S2. Here are my thoughts so far.
NOTE - Big BEAUTIFUL screen is great for browsing and gaming. Battery life wasn't great (I thought it would be soon much better). LTE was nice when I had it. One handed operation was something that wasn't enjoyable. Touchwiz lagged a little but not intolerable. Spen was really good.
S2 - Faster stock, not benchmarks but pure going into menus and such. More games are compatible with the S2 then the Note (not even close). Battery life is about 20-30% better with the same use. I was getting 2 hours of screen on Note vs 3 so far on the S2. Perfect size for 1 handed operation. Screen just isn't as clear or bright.
In the end, I am missing the Note. I just refuse to pay top dollar for something that is going to take months to have applications modified for it. Man that screen on the Note is GOREGEOUS!!
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Top dollar? I paid the same for both $150. I actually do notice that the sgs2 does seem faster at times but omg is it tiny. I use my sgs2 for runnin and the Gnote for everything else.
What res wallpapers?
All i am saying is i have seen the issue on both...but i also lined up 5 skyrockets and there was an insane difference from screen to screen
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If I just wanted to play YouTube videos, I could use my browser and that would fix the problem. But I can't even use a wallpaper with dark blacks or it will show that crush all day. It also does it with pictures I take using the camera.
If my Skyrocket has any black crush, it is infinitely better than the Note.
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Top dollar? I paid the same for both $150. I actually do notice that the what does seem faster at times but omg is it tiny. I use my what for runnin and the Gnote for everything else.
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Your lucky. For me it was $300 for the Note or $100 for the S2. Note for $150 i would have kept it!
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I came over to the Note from the GT-i9100. I'm glad that I did. The extra real estate on the screen is a huge bonus for me.
The SPen seemed gimmicky at first, but that is because the first Note that I purchased apparently had a defect. It often didn't register touches on the screen and I was disappointed. That and the light bleed on the buttons (it was the white version) made me take it to AT&T for a swap to the black one. The fact that this ones pen works perfectly has cemented my decision to keep the phone.
I don't have any lag on mine. It is just like my SGS2 was with a crisper screen.
The only thing that I really miss is the physical home button, but I imagine I will get used to it.
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
And what would you expect to see looking at a poor quality entitle screen?
My s3 is probably the clearest looking screen I've looked upon
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
I'll trust Samsung on this, since there pretty good at making screens.
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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No matter what? Even if you're holding it like a inch away from your phone? I usually use my iPod touch (I have a Blackberry phone, it sucks for web browsing) when in the mornings when I don't feel like getting out of my bed. I usually hold it just 6 inches away from my eyes.
My S3 has to be the clearest screen I have ever seen. Had it for a few days now and still doesn't fail to amaze me whenever I turn the screen on.
You don't have to worry about holding it 6 inches or even 2 inches away from your face.
Its really beautiful...much better then my Nexus...
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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This.
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This.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
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I saw the Motorola Droid Razr before I knew what pentile was and I thought it looked weird and pixellated so it's certainely not placebo. At the ppi of the GS3 it doesn't matter imo. I do still notice it (but not like I can count the pixels.. but it just is a little bit different then normal rgb screens) but the screen is still somehow the best I've seen in a phone.
You shouldn't keep yourself from buying it because of this as it not even really noticable, it's the best screen there is imo and it even spares some battery.
I can notice the pentile effect if I stare hard at the screen from less than 10cm away. I've compared my S3 to the HOX and the HOX does indeed has a finer screen. But still the S3 has one amazing screen. The blacks are much better although the colours seems a little over saturated and slightly on the warm side.
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Well then I guess you have two options 1.) Wait two weeks and then go look at the phone 2.) Go with a different phone.
The only time I notice the pentile screen is whilst reading some text. It is barely recognisable but if and when you notice it you'll subconsciously start to look out for it. But it is very minor indeed, and changing the font of text helps to more or less eradicate it.
Aside from that minor quibble re text I have to say that this screen is absolutely awesome. Colours and contrast are absolutely amazing. I tend to set the screen mode to Natural as I think this gives the best colour effect.
I know this screen is awesome because when I switch from it to my iPad 3's retina screen I don't feel any degradation, if anything pictures and videos look better on it than on the iPad 3 - and that's saying something!
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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I didn't own the G Nexus, but there is no purple tint at low brightness. My S2 had a slight yet noticeable yellowing at low brightness - this does not
Yes, if you will use the phone under a magnifying glass
"Super Amoled Plus" will never work with High Resolution. They are not designed for that.
Move up dude
I my opinion It is noticeable, but only at ~3" away and I do have 20/20 vision but in any other situation It's fine, I have even fooled a few friends who own an s2 that it was a 'plus' display but as above you are best going to have a look
Its noticeable, coming from an Xperia S (which I gave to my wife for this phone) and having a G Note which died before the Xperia S, its the same for me as the G Note.
It's mainly around fonts and small icons which is more noticeable, definitely not in pictures unless you have super vision, but most of the time you're looking at fonts or small icons, so yes its there.
But FWIW I wouldn't trade it for the contrast, I've never owned a phone with such contrast (actually the Note was the same), but having said that in sunlight forget using this phone, side by side in sunlight with the Xperia S, the Sony wins hands down.
Hi all,
I am not trying to flame here. I know people have different views and opinions of screen "quality". I'm just going to express my sincere opinions...thank you for any input...
I was just at a Verizon and AT&T Store. My main concern is brightness, though, secondarily, the jaggedness of PenTile.
I looked at the S II Sky Rocket and Note. And the Nexus at Verizon. All these AMOLED displays were incredibly dim, at least to my eye. Of course they had ghosting/burn in, too but I presume (I hope!) that's just because the display models are left on. But compared to even my Droid 2 the AMOLED displays were literally HALF the brightness (approximately, to my eye), of my Droid 2. The One X and Rezound of course blow it out of the water. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the "brilliant" color of OLED too. No point if it's as dim as an LCD on lowest brightness. Plus there were was the terrible tint on them all. Even straight on, but especially from even a tiny angle. And I saw the Pentile blurriness with the "color" around edges. And my vision is bad. Although I guess it wasn't that bad from at least two feet away, like normal distance for most tasks, but it was bad close which I sometimes do when using my phone.
Is the Galaxy S III screen as dim as the S II or Note or Nexus?
I am just wondering if this is a universal thing, where OLED is just dim, due to inherent qualities of OLED? I searched a bit and apparently the "nits" are much lower according to this xda thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1679964.html. Oddly enough I found reviews and users saying they found it too bright which surprised me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised and have S III be brighter than previous SAMOLED handsets!
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Hi all,
I am not trying to flame here. I know people have different views and opinions of screen "quality". I'm just going to express my sincere opinions...thank you for any input...
I was just at a Verizon and AT&T Store. My main concern is brightness, though, secondarily, the jaggedness of PenTile.
I looked at the S II Sky Rocket and Note. And the Nexus at Verizon. All these AMOLED displays were incredibly dim, at least to my eye. Of course they had ghosting/burn in, too but I presume (I hope!) that's just because the display models are left on. But compared to even my Droid 2 the AMOLED displays were literally HALF the brightness (approximately, to my eye), of my Droid 2. The One X and Rezound of course blow it out of the water. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the "brilliant" color of OLED too. No point if it's as dim as an LCD on lowest brightness. Plus there were was the terrible tint on them all. Even straight on, but especially from even a tiny angle. And I saw the Pentile blurriness with the "color" around edges. And my vision is bad. Although I guess it wasn't that bad from at least two feet away, like normal distance for most tasks, but it was bad close which I sometimes do when using my phone.
Is the Galaxy S III screen as dim as the S II or Note or Nexus?
I am just wondering if this is a universal thing, where OLED is just dim, due to inherent qualities of OLED? I searched a bit and apparently the "nits" are much lower according to this xda thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1679964.html. Oddly enough I found reviews and users saying they found it too bright which surprised me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised and have S III be brighter than previous SAMOLED handsets!
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I own a GS2(I777), a GNexus, and and now a GS3. I'm running AOKP on the GS2 and GNexus. I can't comment on the Note as I've never used one. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Were you looking at them through a welder's mask?
Compared to a Droid 2? I was showing my S3 to my buddy who has a RAZR MAXX today. My screen is better and it ain't even close. He agreed completely.
And BTW, if you are asking a question, don't you think the Q & A section would be a better place to ask it?
I had an SGS2 and the brightness was more than bright enough for being in direct sunlight. Sure, it could have been a LITTLE brighter but I never had problems reading anything on the screen. It was also very crisp due to the true RGB stripe.
The Note has a PenTile pixel arrangement but due to the high resolution it's a non-issue. The same is true with the SGS3. Of course OLED displays aren't going to match LCD in sharpness or brightness, but the true blacks and vibrant colors look beautiful to me.
Wait for it to be in the store and then go take a look. But please don't say the displays on the SGS2 or the Note suck, because they really don't. Compare them side-by-side with a One X and you'll see a difference, but you will never be using it side-by-side in real world use. If you like super bright screens with white so white it'll burn your retinas, go for an LCD screen. If you like true blacks and punchy colors (that you can adjust the punchiness of) then go with an AMOLED. But saying AMOLED screens suck is just stupid.
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I have the S1,S2 and S2 HD LTE and the screens are bright as a greasy bald head under direct sunlight. I have my brightness settings to about 15%-20%. My friends with iPhone 4s' even say its too bright. I put my S2 HD LTE next to my friends GS3 and my screen is actually better. I'll post some pics up later.
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The Note has a PenTile pixel arrangement but due to the high resolution it's a non-issue. The same is true with the SGS3. Of course OLED displays aren't going to match LCD in sharpness or brightness, but the true blacks and vibrant colors look beautiful to me.
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The Note having a high resolution did not make it a non-issue.
I went from:
iPhone 4S - Galaxy Note - HTC One X
Screen Clarity went:
Amazing - Noticeable jagged edges but not horrible - AMAZING
I'm hoping I don't notice the jaggys as much when my S3 arrives due to the smaller screen size yet still high resolution. Just holding a Galaxy Note on it's own though I can definitely tell a difference, there doesn't have to be a side to side comparison. It was just "Well this looks pretty good, but it is not perfectly sharp like my iphone or htc one X look" It just kind've has an overall lower resolution look to it due to the pentile arrangement, but I didn't find it a deal breaker.
I didn't find the brightness an issue though, it IS too bright at 100% brightness. I liked my Note at around 50-70% brightness.
My friend has a Note and I haven't noticed jaggies using it, and I have 20/15 vision. It's a pretty beautiful screen in my opinion.
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I have the S1,S2 and S2 HD LTE and the screens are bright as a greasy bald head under direct sunlight. I have my brightness settings to about 15%-20%. My friends with iPhone 4s' even say its too bright. I put my S2 HD LTE next to my friends GS3 and my screen is actually better. I'll post some pics up later.
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I probably should have put this in Q & A like mentioned, my bad.
But I'm puzzled by responses like above. I guess my eyes are very sensitive. I will agree different people have different perceptions. But I found the S II very dim even in a dimly lit store. I have a feeling I'd not be able to see it at max. brightness outside. And I love the brightness on iPhone and Droid LCD screens. It's wonderful. Even those are a bit dim outside but they are okay. Inside they are wonderful.
Hmm I'm worried if your S II is better than an S III that does not bode well. I hope perhaps the store model was messed up somehow. I know those get abused. Thank you also for your time everyone. I should have not said suck in the title but I wanted to emphasize I found the Nexus, S II and Note VERY dim, to my eyes at least. I figured the AT&T S III forum would be good since they're already shipping...Thanks again all.
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But I found the S II very dim even in a dimly lit store. I have a feeling I'd not be able to see it at max. brightness outside. And I love the brightness on iPhone and Droid LCD screens. It's wonderful. Even those are a bit dim outside but they are okay. Inside they are wonderful.
Hmm I'm worried if your S II is better than an S III that does not bode well. I hope perhaps the store model was messed up somehow. I know those get abused. Thank you also for your time everyone. I should have not said suck in the title but I wanted to emphasize I found the Nexus, S II and Note VERY dim, to my eyes at least. I figured the AT&T S III forum would be good since they're already shipping...Thanks again all.
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Something is/was wrong with all of those phones, then, because they are plenty bright, even in direct sunlight. That, or you were wearing sunglasses the entire time. The iPhone is extremely bright, and I have actually hurt my eyes looking at it on full brightness if the room is not bright. Maybe you have less sensitive eyes than you thought. Not insulting you, just saying that my SGS2 was plenty bright and the iPhone 4 I'm using now is even brighter. I don't know how bright it really needs to be.
I don't know what dimness you see.. But you could always turn up the brightness. The gs3 display is beautiful. Way better than the s2. It looks brighter and just has better color. I love it. The viewing angles are amazing.
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My S3 is set at about 45% and is a great level. If you set it at 100% it is really bright and I cannot see how anyone would complain that 100% is not bright enough.
The screen is also very sharp and looks fantastic.
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The Note having a high resolution did not make it a non-issue.
I went from:
iPhone 4S - Galaxy Note - HTC One X
Screen Clarity went:
Amazing - Noticeable jagged edges but not horrible - AMAZING
I'm hoping I don't notice the jaggys as much when my S3 arrives due to the smaller screen size yet still high resolution. Just holding a Galaxy Note on it's own though I can definitely tell a difference, there doesn't have to be a side to side comparison. It was just "Well this looks pretty good, but it is not perfectly sharp like my iphone or htc one X look" It just kind've has an overall lower resolution look to it due to the pentile arrangement, but I didn't find it a deal breaker.
I didn't find the brightness an issue though, it IS too bright at 100% brightness. I liked my Note at around 50-70% brightness.
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If you find the note to have visible pentile pixelation then it will be worse on the gs3 due to heavy sharpening applied. I know because I compared the 2 side by side.
btw the HTC one x display is pretty poor even by gs3 standard. The gamma is washed out and yellows and oranges are overblown to the point that skintones looks horrible. Text while sharper than on amoled displays suffer from poor contrast making it even harder to read.
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btw the HTC one x display is pretty poor even by gs3 standard. The gamma is washed out and yellows and oranges are overblown to the point that skintones looks horrible. Text while sharper than on amoled displays suffer from poor contrast making it even harder to read.
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I don't think you're thinking of the right phone. Every review states the HTC One X is the best display on any phone they have ever seen... And most Galaxy S3 reviews make a comparison saying it's good but not near as good as the One X display.
For example here is the Techie-Buzz.com review
"The display on the one X is too good to be true and the color and temperature reproductions are the most accurate I have ever seen on a phone."
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I don't think you're thinking of the right phone. Every review states the HTC One X is the best display on any phone they have ever seen... And most GS3 reviews make a comparison saying it's not as good as the One X display.
For example here is the Techie-Buzz.com review
"The display on the one X is too good to be true and the color and temperature reproductions are the most accurate I have ever seen on a phone."
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Agreed. I do graphics sometimes. By nature of what I do, I deal with image processing at times.
All these OLED phones were dim to my eye. And it was in a moderately lit store so it's a charitable scenario. LCDs blew the AMOLEDS out of the water in birghtness, sharpness, and yes, color accuracy, in my eye at least.
I like my screens bright, though. I use my MacBook Pro at 100%, nice and bright. I use my Droid at 100% always also. All OLED displays I've seen are very dim. What blows me away is everyone saying they are TOO bright. I'm really surprised by that!!!!
I guess I shall see when my S III arrives... Honestly, if I even have tint or ink marks I'll swap it for some other 4G phone. I wish one phone could have it all but it seems there's always a tradeoff. Unfortunately, I value screen quality more than specs and dev support, even though I was reeeally looking forward to all the other awesomeness of the S III. But with a dim screen all of that is useless to me...if I can't see it! I'll post my impressions when it's in...
Also I know this is kind of a negative thread but I'm really impressed by the XDA community. I found my way here after pre-ordering my S III and seeking more info. Everyone here is so quick to reply, knowledgeable, willing to intensely and intelligently discuss everything about phones and tech. Cheers to the XDA community.
That's dim to you? The picture was taken by my daughters Exeria Mini with flash on.
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Well I just used S III in store again. And compared to my Droid 2 it looks like crap. And my Droid 2 looks like crap compared to HTC One X.
I just used an Incredible 4G LTE. Well, it was nice and bright and sharp. It's LCD. It's small and low-res though. I'm very sad about this but I think I'll have to pick the Incredible 4G.
S III has everything else about it perfect. But the screen is so dim and crappy, to my eyes. Also HTC Inc 4G boot loader is unlocked. Although with the firestorm brewing here maybe VZW will eventually unlock your boot loaders. My S III still isn't in yet but I think I'm 90% of the way to deciding to get the Inc 4G. Really wish S III had LCD. :/
Also I have to note: the colors on AMOLED are truly bizarre and over-saturated. Look at Google Maps on an LCD phone compared to an AMOLED phone. On the SIII the orange highways are the color of a traffic cone and the red "A" dot over my city is the color red of a red laser pointer. Nuts. Way over-saturated. It's just annoying. AMOLED, speaking as a graphics pro, to me it just does not look like it's ready for use yet. I think Samsung jumped the gun. It's got almost no advantages and a ton of drawbacks. SLCD simply destroys it in every way. It's making me rather sad I'm getting a puny little Droid Incredible 4 because the SAMOLED screen is so crappy.
The notes display doesn't suck at all....wth are u talking about??? Check ur eyes
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The notes display doesn't suck at all....wth are u talking about??? Check ur eyes
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Have you looked at it then looked at an LCD?
Sorry it is WAY DIMMER. this is a FACT. Open up Google News in an LCD and AMOLED phone. Compare. What do you think? Specifically, how white does white look on AMOLED?
And: ink marks, tint, black crush, over saturation, burn in, etc. on AMOLED.
I'm trying to be objective here. I really just wish Samsung would use LCD. Photos of comparisons do not accurately portray the differences between these two displays at least based on my experiences...you have to see them in person. Although even without seeing an LCD once, as soon as I fired up S III for the first time I was disappointed. I was like oh crap, that's seriously full brightness? Uh oh.
Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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I guess my eyes are just super sensitive.. I never would have thought that. I wear pretty serious glasses even. Ah well. Although I have good night vision. It's not like I need things bright to see them. I just feel like S III is annoying because it's dim. Constantly annoying. Can't deal with that for 2 years, no way.
Perhaps sometime next year there will be a phone with all the awesomeness of SIII but with IPS LCD display or a nice AMOLED..
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Mine looks great ..definitely not dim...colors look amazing..
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Same here. My SGS3 is fantastic, I actually prefer it over the HTC One X that I had for nearly a month.
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Galaxy S 4 Active.
It looks AWESOME. (And I like hard buttons).
Anyone think it's coming to Verizon?
If so I'm ready to buy. Really ready. No more dead phone in the toilet.
Screen that works in the rain, camera takes pics underwater, etc. Awesome. Bonus: probably better pix thanks to smaller megapixel count.
Ya, I'm super excited about this too. I just bought my S4 last week full retail...but I'll probably end up selling it and buying this one when it comes out. Not having to keep a case on the phone and not having to worry about having plastic baggies with me when I go to a game when it might rain...completely worth it.
Plus it's not a pentile screen, so the screen should actually look *better* than the one on the stock S4.
I dare my asshole friends to push me in the pool again
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Ya, I'm super excited about this too. I just bought my S4 last week full retail...but I'll probably end up selling it and buying this one when it comes out. Not having to keep a case on the phone and not having to worry about having plastic baggies with me when I go to a game when it might rain...completely worth it.
Plus it's not a pentile screen, so the screen should actually look *better* than the one on the stock S4.
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I know I just got more excited, I just noticed it has an LCD screen. I've always hated AMOLED with a passion. PenTile more so.
Samsung screens are dim, plus they wear out, go yellow, burn in, have tint, blotches at night, colors are not accurate, and then there is pentile. Which is even a bit noticeable on S3 though not quite so bad. And to be fair Note 2 is pretty good, and S4 is too. The worst part is how incredibly dim the AMOLED is, it's nuts. However I have gotten used to the nice black levels, that's one thing I'll miss.
We need this on Verizon.
WOW This is BS I am an active runner and gym rat and this makes me grrrrr, I already got the s4 on a payment plan!!!! Dam it
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WOW This is BS I am an active runner and gym rat and this makes me grrrrr, I already got the s4 on a payment plan!!!! Dam it
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Yeah not to mention that they announce the HTC one is also coming out right after my 14 day return window closed!!
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I know I just got more excited, I just noticed it has an LCD screen. I've always hated AMOLED with a passion. PenTile more so.
Samsung screens are dim, plus they wear out, go yellow, burn in, have tint, blotches at night, colors are not accurate, and then there is pentile. Which is even a bit noticeable on S3 though not quite so bad. And to be fair Note 2 is pretty good, and S4 is too. The worst part is how incredibly dim the AMOLED is, it's nuts. However I have gotten used to the nice black levels, that's one thing I'll miss.
We need this on Verizon.
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The S4 doesn't have any of those oled issues.. You can't even tell it's pentile..
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The S4 doesn't have any of those oled issues.. You can't even tell it's pentile..
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Is it as bright as an HTC One LCD? I haven't compared but I'd imagine it's not even close.
PenTile used to be my main issue with AMOLED aside from dimness. Yes, I agree that is mostly fixed with higher resolution now, although if you look close you can still see it.
The rest of the issues are still valid, particularly how darn dim AMOLED is and how crappy whites look. Generally I feel LCD is still superior overall, and for all those reasons. And I didn't even mention the black crush/contrast issue which I expect still persists.
This is why Active with LCD has me SUPER EXCITED!!
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Is it as bright as an HTC One LCD? I haven't compared but I'd imagine it's not even close.
PenTile used to be my main issue with AMOLED aside from dimness. Yes, I agree that is mostly fixed with higher resolution now, although if you look close you can still see it.
The rest of the issues are still valid, particularly how darn dim AMOLED is and how crappy whites look. Generally I feel LCD is still superior overall, and for all those reasons. And I didn't even mention the black crush/contrast issue which I expect still persists.
This is why Active with LCD has me SUPER EXCITED!!
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It's still an issue. This phone is downright dark when outdoors in sunlight. I have to shield the phone if I want to be able to see anything at all on the screen. Next to the iPhone 5 or HTC One the difference is huge when in bright light.
I can't wait for the Active...it's pretty much the ideal phone, IMO. Tough, waterproof, and awesome specs.
Case and point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mUswj7SH3k
LCD FTW. I hope the LCD on the Active is just like the One
So I currently own a Tab S4, Note 10+ and Note 8 and I've been impressed with the AMOLED screen. Today I got a Tab S6 and I'm severly disapointed by the screen quality. Compaired to the other AMOLED displays, this looks like an old LED panel, pretty bad quality no deep blacks, low contrast and the same image looks totally different over the two Tab screens. Additionally, when something comes up that blurs the background, the effect is more like a severly reduced pallet count rather than the normal blurring effect.
Is this normal for the Tab S6 or is this a bad unit?
I've also had trouble with the under screen finger print scanner not registering fingerprints, so I'm thinking faulty...
I haven't had any problem with the screen nor the fingerprint. Might be a bad unit.
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
Come from the tab s3 have an s10 plus as my daily phone looks just as good as the s10 plus in my opinion.
Nope it isn't
I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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Yeah sounds like a bad screen....I would take it back.
The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
Apparently there are a lot of people having uniformity issues with their devices and there doesn't seem to be one free of defects. As always it's the OLED lottery! Exchange until you're satisfied.
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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We are all techies in this forum the average user would probably not even notice if the backlight was uneven especially if they have come from an old non OLED device I think that's probably part of the issue
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No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
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Totally different look that gnus hooked people up on, and milliards of nobbs saying that amoled is way superior tehnnologi. Now it decided to turn around and present natural colour palette (with uneven wrinkled display to boot), i agree that it can be not so good to look at it after vivid
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Unsatisfying black levels? How is this possible? Black should be totally black LOL xD
Do you mean the grey color or something near black? Or you guys really talk about true black color? ( for example when booting up the device )
True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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No idea - I came straight from the SM-T800.
tab s4 has a better screen
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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No, I'm not concinved there are any perfect displays. I still have one corner that's darker, honestly this experience has put me off Samsung. As soon as there's an Android tablet with better specs I'm done with this, I might be done with Samsung to be honest, the punch holes in their new phones are horrible and they're overpriced..
What's the best way to check the uniformaty of the panel in the S6? I don't believe I've got any issues but better safe than sorry!
Tab S4 much better will return the s6 I just bought as you can see grey in blackboard in so.e videos which you don't on the tab S4. Hopefully replacement will be better.