So had to turn my 32 gig S3 in on insurance. Assurion said they couldn't replace it, no 32 gig models in S3 available, so they bumped me up to a brand new S4 in 32 gigs.
Kudos to them, because they offered it, I didn't ask for it, but gladly accepted.
Just wanted to say Hi, since it just got here I have some required reading to catch up on.
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So had to turn my 32 gig S3 in on insurance. Assurion said they couldn't replace it, no 32 gig models in S3 available, so they bumped me up to a brand new S4 in 32 gigs.
Kudos to them, because they offered it, I didn't ask for it, but gladly accepted.
Just wanted to say Hi, since it just got here I have some required reading to catch up on.
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Don't take the update
Check your build number and see if you are on MDK or ME7. If you are on MDK DO NOT TAKE UPDATE TO ME7. MDK you are able to unlock bootloader and free your phone to flash roms etc.. ME7 only has root at this time and can not downgrade to MDK. If you are already on ME7 then there is a thread where Hashcode is working on safestrap but it is still a WIP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381382
Thanks for the quick replies in warning.
I am charging the battery for first use, have not turned it on yet. Have no intentions of until I get a handle on everything. In the time since I posted i've been reading up on it, and have come to the conclusion already you have just warned me about.
As curious as I am to see what version of software it is running, I am also not informed enough (yet) to press that power button. I figure until I know what I want to do about handling the various choices that will either be presented to me, or are available to me (but may not know about unless I read first) that device is not doing anything more then charging its battery.
The one constant about an insurance replacement is you get to decide when it first powers on, not some store rep.
...and it looks like all my luck on this front was used up by having the 32 gig s4 offered to replace my 32 gig s3.
ME7
So looks like i'm off to dd a copy of my partitions and start by combing them with a hex editor like the rest of you looking for a solution.
So sorry to hear about the pre loaded ME7. I would keep an eye on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
Still a WIP but Hashcode is making good progress.
Yea. Thanks for the link!
I am just thankful I basically got offered an upgrade without having to wait for or pay for one, still had 6 months before I came due for one on verizon.
The hardware is really what's important, it's not really feasable to upgrade the internal memory or add in ir blaster - software problems are literally just a matter of time. We'll get it eventually, the more people pitching in to help just moves the timeline more in our favor.
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Check your build number and see if you are on MDK or ME7. If you are on MDK DO NOT TAKE UPDATE TO ME7. MDK you are able to unlock bootloader and free your phone to flash roms etc.. ME7 only has root at this time and can not downgrade to MDK. If you are already on ME7 then there is a thread where Hashcode is working on safestrap but it is still a WIP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381382
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So you're about to unlock the bootloader eh?? please link me the process of unlocking it...
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So you're about to unlock the bootloader eh?? please link me the process of unlocking it...
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Did you read what I posted? MDK can be unlocked not ME7. Or sorry MDK you can use a unsecured Loki kernel. Still get custom recovery and flash Roms etc...
From what i've read so far - and bear with me as i've only just started looking into anything about the S4 within the last few hours - it would seem that Loki is a process whereby the bootloader isn't unlocked, as much as bypassed.
That is correct. The bootloader is not truly unlocked like a nexus. However the Loki does allow a custom recovery to flash Roms,kernels,radios, etc.. Unlike ME7.
I don't think any 32gb phones have mdk since it was released later. I could be wrong tho
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I don't think any 32gb phones have mdk since it was released later. I could be wrong tho
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i've had my s4 from them for around a month, replaced due to them also not having an s3 32gb, and it came with mdk installed. stupid me should've read you couldn't just odin mdk :crying:
So....
Do you know if your insurance is still for the S3? Lets say your phone breaks and you take it in again. Are they going to give you an S3 if they have it in stock or just another S4?
dunno what would happen automatically. i am operating without insurance on the s4. long and complicated story which i wish not to relate here. good point for anyone in a similar situation who kept their policy.
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Do you know if your insurance is still for the S3? Lets say your phone breaks and you take it in again. Are they going to give you an S3 if they have it in stock or just another S4?
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Asurion will cover the s4
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Asurion will cover the s4
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That is dope!
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Just got my S 4 a few days ago. BestBuy guy fiddling with it updated it to the ME7 build of which I had no idea couldn't get boot loader unlocked for yet. If I had known that at the time, I wouldn't have been letting him mess with it so long. Anyway, I am on ME7 and rooted..thank goodness that's available at least. Any word on the unlocked boot loader? Est. time on how long it takes to crack these things? I'm coming up from the SIII which I loved flashing new ROMs and fell in love with CleanROM, Hyperdrive and Bonestock. It's kind of a bummer I got my S 4, which I love btw, but I can't put that awesomeness on it yet. Any info would be great! Thanks everyone and as always Android>iOS woooooooooo
BTW Thank you to whom ever may be working on this. You guys are the best!
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Just got my S 4 a few days ago. BestBuy guy fiddling with it updated it to the ME7 build of which I had no idea couldn't get boot loader unlocked for yet. If I had known that at the time, I wouldn't have been letting him mess with it so long. Anyway, I am on ME7 and rooted..thank goodness that's available at least. Any word on the unlocked boot loader? Est. time on how long it takes to crack these things? I'm coming up from the SIII which I loved flashing new ROMs and fell in love with CleanROM, Hyperdrive and Bonestock. It's kind of a bummer I got my S 4, which I love btw, but I can't put that awesomeness on it yet. Any info would be great! Thanks everyone and as always Android>iOS woooooooooo
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Currently no eta. There is about a 4000$ donations post going on encouraging the development of unlocked boot loader. Just gonna hallve to wait impatiently like myself and probably many others
MikeyFid said:
Just got my S 4 a few days ago. BestBuy guy fiddling with it updated it to the ME7 build of which I had no idea couldn't get boot loader unlocked for yet. If I had known that at the time, I wouldn't have been letting him mess with it so long. Anyway, I am on ME7 and rooted..thank goodness that's available at least. Any word on the unlocked boot loader? Est. time on how long it takes to crack these things? I'm coming up from the SIII which I loved flashing new ROMs and fell in love with CleanROM, Hyperdrive and Bonestock. It's kind of a bummer I got my S 4, which I love btw, but I can't put that awesomeness on it yet. Any info would be great! Thanks everyone and as always Android>iOS woooooooooo
BTW Thank you to whom ever may be working on this. You guys are the best!
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I would return it and make sure it's not updated this time.
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I would return it and make sure it's not updated this time.
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Just tell them I want a different one? They'll go for that? Never got a phone from them before.
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Just tell them I want a different one? They'll go for that? Never got a phone from them before.
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If it's within 14 days, you should be able to exchange it. Just say you want a different s4. You might have to pay a minor restocking fee. It's up to you if it's worth it.
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If it's within 14 days, you should be able to exchange it. Just say you want a different s4. You might have to pay a minor restocking fee. It's up to you if it's worth it.
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Oh duh I totally forgot about that. It's definitely worth it for me. I love my custom ROMs.
One more question...Will it ask me to update? Or do it automatically? I've had so many Android phones but I'll be damned if I can remember if it asks or not.
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Oh duh I totally forgot about that. It's definitely worth it for me. I love my custom ROMs.
One more question...Will it ask me to update? Or do it automatically? I've had so many Android phones but I'll be damned if I can remember if it asks or not.
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It will ask you to update right when you turn it on most likely. Some users said it automatically updated overnight. So make sure you root and rom it immediately once you get it to stop that.
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It will ask you to update right when you turn it on most likely. Some users said it automatically updated overnight. So make sure you root and rom it immediately once you get it to stop that.
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Or he can freeze the sdm.apk to prevent it from doing it.
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It will ask you to update right when you turn it on most likely. Some users said it automatically updated overnight. So make sure you root and rom it immediately once you get it to stop that.
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I was asked to apply the OTA and I ignored the the messaged all day at work. When I got home, I plugged my phone into my computer only to charge it and it automatically applied the update. Also, I had Kies set up to NOT open or update when plugging in my phone.
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Or he can freeze the sdm.apk to prevent it from doing it.
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I didnt know this at the time- a day late and a buck short
Aren't there some other apks to free as well?
MikeyFid said:
Oh duh I totally forgot about that. It's definitely worth it for me. I love my custom ROMs.
One more question...Will it ask me to update? Or do it automatically? I've had so many Android phones but I'll be damned if I can remember if it asks or not.
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Bestbuy wont give you any problem, i just did it today actually but i just asked for a white one just so i wouldnt have to explain why i wanted a new one.
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Bestbuy wont give you any problem, i just did it today actually but i just asked for a white one just so i wouldnt have to explain why i wanted a new one.
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Awesome! I'll have to go up there and check it out.
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Awesome! I'll have to go up there and check it out.
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Yup, i'd suggest just saying the update was giving you a problem and you factory reset a few times and you still have spotty reception or something, or just switch colors if it doesnt matter to you.
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Yup, i'd suggest just saying the update was giving you a problem and you factory reset a few times and you still have spotty reception or something, or just switch colors if it doesnt matter to you.
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Just got home from BestBuy with my new S4, black this time. Rooted on mdk and changed name of SDM.apk, about to try out some ROMs :laugh:
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Just got home from BestBuy with my new S4, black this time. Rooted on mdk and changed name of SDM.apk, about to try out some ROMs :laugh:
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Lol you did exactly as I did but I switched to white. Its kind of a bummer because I liked black but im getting used to the white
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Did you guys take your phones back before the 14 day period was up or did you do it after?
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Did you guys take your phones back before the 14 day period was up or did you do it after?
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Before. We both just bought the phones recently. Both made the mistake of updating the first ones xD
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Make sure you freeze (or change the name of) fwupdate.apk as well as the SDM.apk to ensure you don't wake up one morning to find me7 installed.
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Did the same from verizon.. started to give a story about how something wasnt working right and the guys was like i dont care heres a new one.. lol i was worried there would be a problem. As for freezing there two files you want to freeze I found the info here on xda. As for the white phone theres a guy I work with that has a dark silver case and it makes it look awsome. If i see him tonight Ill link the case name.. Its almost grey and covers all the white except the smallest inner edge around the screen and it makes the screen pop.
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Did the same from verizon.. started to give a story about how something wasnt working right and the guys was like i dont care heres a new one.. lol i was worried there would be a problem. As for freezing there two files you want to freeze I found the info here on xda. As for the white phone theres a guy I work with that has a dark silver case and it makes it look awsome. If i see him tonight Ill link the case name.. Its almost grey and covers all the white except the smallest inner edge around the screen and it makes the screen pop.
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If you could link it thatd be great. As of now im using my otterbox until I get a glass screen protector
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Did you guys take your phones back before the 14 day period was up or did you do it after?
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Yes within 14 day period. They didn't even inspect my phone or ask me anything. I just said new firmware had issues and also I'd like a black one instead. If you are going to BestBuy be sure to get their phone insurance through Geeksquad, that stuff is great.
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
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Yeah I was wondering the same thing. If anyone has any information about this that would be awesome!
I hope soon - with over $5k in bounty, it shouldn't take long. LOL
It better be soon because I'm so sick of not having TWRP lol. 5k bounty should be more than enough!
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Agreed.
I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I came from an iPhone 5 too and tbh I'm glad I did I love this phone and I was on MDK when I got it but I updated like a dumbass. Not knowing that I had just sealed my fate for ever having custom ROMs and recovery. Oh well.
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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blackra1n said:
I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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ahh damn that sux sry that happend lol. soo much for that idea i guess lol T_T what about restoring it to factory settings like through the option on the phone itself? Will it just like reset and wipe everything but not rollback the version? Thanks for your response and with the bounty being so high and they managed to get a root for it pretty quickly i really hope they can unlock the bootloader so we can put custom roms on it soon :/
Useless thread...
Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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Ownage. said:
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
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In an attempt to answer the question, I've been following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384222&page=23), but I haven't seen any updates on the last few pages.
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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It's just as likely as the oceans completely evaporating overnight.
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The best we can hope for out of future updates is that they have a vulnerability that's easier to find than whatever's still waiting to be discovered in ME7 (if any such vulnerability is hiding there).
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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the motos got unlocked over 6 months after release, and that was considered by many to be completely impossible. Seeing this phone is more popular I think the chances are better, just will take time!
I put in an RMA with Negri electronics, and they're going to exchange mine for an MDK phone. Really should have done my research before updating...
Hello everybody! I just got my SGS4 a couple of days ago... I handed my SGS3 down to my wife (running beans 18 what a monster!) and headed for the forum to see how to root and unlock this puppy... When I saw that Beans was rolling out his rom for s4 I knew I did the right thing... If i only knew... While I was tinkering with my phone a new update notification came up and without thinking I just accepted it (being used to accepting updates on my nexus 7 unrooted and never worrying about otas for my phone) as it turns out I had an MDK phone, now no more... and the more I read on the forums the more I wanna kick myself in the face for being so naive... Especially because I used to be a moto owner!
Well after my sad story I got a couple of questions... I rooted my me7 what app do I freeze to avoid otas?
And another trickier question can any knowledgeable user explain (dumbing it down a little) why some phone's boot loader cannot be unlocked ever? Just out of curiosity...
Thanks!
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Hello everybody! I just got my SGS4 a couple of days ago... I handed my SGS3 down to my wife (running beans 18 what a monster!) and headed for the forum to see how to root and unlock this puppy... When I saw that Beans was rolling out his rom for s4 I knew I did the right thing... If i only knew... While I was tinkering with my phone a new update notification came up and without thinking I just accepted it (being used to accepting updates on my nexus 7 unrooted and never worrying about otas for my phone) as it turns out I had an MDK phone, now no more... and the more I read on the forums the more I wanna kick myself in the face for being so naive... Especially because I used to be a moto owner!
Well after my sad story I got a couple of questions... I rooted my me7 what app do I freeze to avoid otas?
And another trickier question can any knowledgeable user explain (dumbing it down a little) why some phone's boot loader cannot be unlocked ever? Just out of curiosity...
Thanks!
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Never really did pay much attention to this me7 but I never took the update, does this mean my bootloader is unlocked???
As for having a locked bootloader its probably just a matter of time before someone finds a way to unlock it.. Let's hope
Roland_D said:
Hello everybody! I just got my SGS4 a couple of days ago... I handed my SGS3 down to my wife (running beans 18 what a monster!) and headed for the forum to see how to root and unlock this puppy... When I saw that Beans was rolling out his rom for s4 I knew I did the right thing... If i only knew... While I was tinkering with my phone a new update notification came up and without thinking I just accepted it (being used to accepting updates on my nexus 7 unrooted and never worrying about otas for my phone) as it turns out I had an MDK phone, now no more... and the more I read on the forums the more I wanna kick myself in the face for being so naive... Especially because I used to be a moto owner!
Well after my sad story I got a couple of questions... I rooted my me7 what app do I freeze to avoid otas?
And another trickier question can any knowledgeable user explain (dumbing it down a little) why some phone's boot loader cannot be unlocked ever? Just out of curiosity...
Thanks!
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There's a lot of talk about this ME7 disappointment. So much so, that it has it's own thread for all things related to it.
That being said; freeze SDM.apk, FWupdate.apk, and I think someone mentioned Keychain.apk.
templton said:
Never really did pay much attention to this me7 but I never took the update, does this mean my bootloader is unlocked???
As for having a locked bootloader its probably just a matter of time before someone finds a way to unlock it.. Let's hope
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Your bootloader is still locked, but there is an exploit that allows you to install ROM's and Kernels just like if it was unlocked, as long as you are on the mdk build.
Have it Jtagged back to MDK or wait for safestrap. I used safestrap on the bionic, it's an excellent app that will allow ME7 peeps to run custom roms.
Don't worry, you have options.
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I did the exact same as you my friend, I feel your pain...
jtagged?
trook said:
Have it Jtagged back to MDK or wait for safestrap. I used safestrap on the bionic, it's an excellent app that will allow ME7 peeps to run custom roms.
Don't worry, you have options.
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How is this accomplished, jtagged?
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How is this accomplished, jtagged?
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Jtagging involved taking the phone apart and jumpering two points on your board. This has been used on HTC to achieve s-off on some devices. It's very risky as you have to solder them. I have not heard of anyone doing it on the s4. Or any Sammy device.
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I am in your same boat man... Got my phone a week ago and just carelessly did the update and found out later that day I shouldn't of... Oh well, liv and learn I guess.
There is a guy on here who said he can Jtagg the S4 ME7 back to MDK, but at the moment he is only doing it for devs in order for them to keep working towards unlocking the boot loader.
I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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tomplatz said:
I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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Well you will only be able to use roms that use the stock kernel. So not every rom is available to you, but there are still enough.
tomplatz said:
I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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Disadvantages are that you won't be able to use any non-stock kernel roms (like any AOSP roms) and you'll be very limited on storage space unless you're daring enough to flash over the stock rom slot (some people do this and there's no issues).
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Disadvantages are that you won't be able to use any non-stock kernel roms (like any AOSP roms) and you'll be very limited on storage space unless you're daring enough to flash over the stock rom slot (some people do this and there's no issues).
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I do this and don't like the limits. I wish I could use CWM or TWRP but can't on ME7. So irritating. I do love the Safestrap recovery but I just wish ME7 wouldn't limit safestrap so much. It's such a great recovery software.
djorijun said:
I do this and don't like the limits. I wish I could use CWM or TWRP but can't on ME7. So irritating. I do love the Safestrap recovery but I just wish ME7 wouldn't limit safestrap so much. It's such a great recovery software.
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For the record I got it working. Had to max out partition sizes in rom slot but it installed. No perceptible slowdown I can see.
Just found this thread that confirms root for the vzw and att s5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780319
Would this vulnerability work on the s4 with kitkat?
Here's info on the exploit (CVE-2014-3153):
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/467
http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/27fl04/another_linux_kernel_exploit_this_time_reachable/
http://www.securelist.com/en/advisories/59029
Edit @geohot has made a root method that works. All you have to do is go to http://towelroot.com and click the icon in the center to download tr.apk . Install the tr.apk after allowing installation from unknown sources. The click the button to root and the phone will reboot and you will have root. I recommend you download the updatesupersu1.99 zip and install the supersu from the common folder after extracting.
joshuabg said:
Just found this thread that confirms root for the vzw and att s5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780319
Would this vulnerability work on the s4 with kitkat
Here's info on the exploit.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/467
http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/27fl04/another_linux_kernel_exploit_this_time_reachable/
http://www.securelist.com/en/advisories/59029
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That vulnerability is going to be like Cube's getroot - it's going to work on a huge number of devices.
I've been looking on how to exploit it but haven't had much time to devote to it, but apparently it's been cracked for at least one phone.
We'll have native root on the S4/S5 and who knows what else pretty soon if I'm not mistaken. Good news.
Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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After reading the linked post it seems this is more a "nah-na-nah-na boo-boo" thing. It's not released, but it does give me hope that we can get a native root method like JB had.
My question is, to what end? Surge's pre - rooted functions well and is effectively stock, would this make any functionality differences vs a pre rooted rom?
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ffchampmt said:
After reading the linked post it seems this is more a "nah-na-nah-na boo-boo" thing. It's not released, but it does give me hope that we can get a native root method like JB had.
My question is, to what end? Surge's pre - rooted functions well and is effectively stock, would this make any functionality differences vs a pre rooted rom?
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It would be easier to do, and for example, if you dont flash SuperSu before a reboot after installing a rom, you will lose root and have to start the downgrade and upgrade process all over again. If there was a native root method all you would have to do would be to probably run a script on your computer with your phone plugged in and you will have root back. I'd imagine it would be safer and have less chance of bricking.
I actually prefer the more difficult hacks...less likely to be exploited for malware. Not saying this one will be or even could be, but easy root is not necessarily good. I'm sure jcase is shaking his finger at everyone somewhere, lol.
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brizey said:
I actually prefer the more difficult hacks...less likely to be exploited for malware. Not saying this one will be or even could be, but easy root is not necessarily good. I'm sure jcase is shaking his finger at everyone somewhere, lol.
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I think jcase liked that a guy got root from this on the att s5. But jcase isn't working on this because he is on break.
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Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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As I said above, I'm already working on it. Been on travel all week and very busy, but I do intend to try to exploit this.
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As I said above, I'm already working on it. Been on travel all week and very busy, but I do intend to try to exploit this.
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I for one would love this as I have had zero ability to use any of the other ways for rooting my s4...I have had every problem trying every method so I have just given up and would love this...thanks anyone for working on it...
It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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Any devs willing to work on this? @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
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@joshuabg @k1mu @Surge1223 @ryanbg
count me in for testing....[emoji41][emoji106]
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Cod3L1ne said:
It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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As I've said before, bounties aren't my motivation. I post what I find and make it public.
This particular vulnerability is an interesting one, with a good potential for exploit. It is not going to be easy to exploit across a large number of phones.
Cod3L1ne said:
It's already worked out question is how the bounty is going to be paid and or split. It's not just one persons work but a bunch of contribute used info being used and who will get full credit. The bounty is what's holding up release because now yall want to pay
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Easy first one to post the root or a stock rooted image... if someone has it but another puts it up for public use, then they should get the whole bounty not one who shows it but does not share... JMO.
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k1mu said:
As I've said before, bounties aren't my motivation. I post what I find and make it public.
This particular vulnerability is an interesting one, with a good potential for exploit. It is not going to be easy to exploit across a large number of phones.
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I was told by someone on another forum that's been looking at it for the RAZR HD/M that it needs to be able to directly access memory, which as we know, can't be done in Java. Are you looking at doing it in C? Just a curiosity is all.
Would this method allow custom kernels? Or just root?
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Would this method allow custom kernels? Or just root?
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Just root. Unlocked bootkoader is needed for custom kernels.
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Probably Safestrap recovery by @Hashcode just like ATT S4 and Note 3..... per my buddy @Surge1223 we might able to use Note3 Kitkat Safestrap Recovery v3.72.... time would tell.
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I couldn't care or less if they release this root method. We already have several pre rooted ROMs with kitkat. I understand the exploit could be easier to root but I don't care how long it takes to root. I just want an unlocked bootloader. If anything we need to get more people to add to the bounty to maybe attract attention. And get as many devs working on it as possible. I am sure surge is probally getting tired of working on this for so long. It's been close to a year and nothing since loki. I bought my s4 because I thought it could be unlocked but I bought it just around the time Verizon patched loki which sucks
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Im just curious. Will this exploit trip the Knox counter?
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but this vulnerability is very difficult to exploit, and even if done correctly, will not be stable on the majority of devices. @jcase has already taken a look at this since the day it came out, and if he says it's not worth the time, it's not worth the time. Geohot may have been able to exploit it, but you only have access to a root shell for 15-20 seconds before the device becomes unstable and shuts down. SEAndroid is also an obstacle after the vulnerability has been exploited. While it's certainly possible, it's a bit far out of the ballpark to be feasible at this point in time.