This sucks...cant understand how they can break contract with them getting a penalty.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1521967
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This sucks...cant understand how they can break contract with them getting a penalty.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1521967
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This article is a bit outdated; look at the date stamp below:
Posted: 05/16/2012 3:06 pm Updated: 05/16/2012 5:59 pm
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This sucks...cant understand how they can break contract with them getting a penalty.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1521967
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And many of us PURCHASED a phone outright in order to keep unlimited. I wonder how they will handle that one. Is VZW going to refund us the difference? I highly doubt it... Nevermind: just saw the above simul posting and just noticed the time/date stamp.
Oh ****...good eye. Friend sent me that in a link...just read it and didnt see the posting date.
You gave me a heart attack.
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Yeah that, I'm pretty sure, was just before they announced that when you renew your contract you also have to update your data plan. Last summer is when, if I remember correct, they announced the whole "All contract LTE devices will have to update their data plan" thing.
I think we will be able to keep our unlimited data until Verizon rolls out VoLTE. When phones no longer need CDMA voice plans we will have to change our plans and get booted from unlimited data.
Personally, I'm convinced that VZW will be dropping unlimited data within the next year. My theory is that they had been waiting for most folks with unlimited data to complete their contracts (and at this point, it's pretty close). Anyone who paid full retail to keep unlimited data will be pissed, but Verizon won't owe them anything. The only folks Verizon would "owe" would be people still under contract, and really, all that VZW would have to do is allow them to leave without paying ETF.
Once most unlimited data customers are out of contract, VZW can drop it (or just stop grandfathering) without much penalty since if you're out of contract already, waving the ETF doesn't apply to you anyway (so it won't cost VZW anything but reputation). I believe we're approaching the point where the only folks that still have unlimited data and are on contract are just those who used the loophole of trading upgrades with a second line; I can't imagine that there's too many people like that. I'm sure someone at Verizon has done the calculation, and once the threshold is hit, they'll make the change.
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Once most unlimited data customers are out of contract, VZW can drop it (or just stop grandfathering) without much penalty since if you're out of contract already, waving the ETF doesn't apply to you anyway (so it won't cost VZW anything but reputation). I believe we're approaching the point where the only folks that still have unlimited data and are on contract are just those who used the loophole of trading upgrades with a second line; I can't imagine that there's too many people like that. I'm sure someone at Verizon has done the calculation, and once the threshold is hit, they'll make the change.
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Until the day comes where Verizon will shut off unlimited, I will continue to stream my Google Play Music at high quality with no caching and no wi-fi (so that I AM on the 4G network when I use my GBs a month, like a f---in' boss!)
When that day does come that unlimited is gone, I'll just go to either Sprint or T-Mobile, like a f'in boss! No reason for me to pay $30 for 2GB, 4GB, or even a whopping generous 6GB when I do 20GB-40GB a month like a (well....you get the point...lol.)
If verizon ever forces me to lose my unlimited data ....i am gone. Myself and im sure many others will leave verizon as the only thing holding on to us is the unlimited. They get new phones way too late. Some phones they dont even get. Att isnt much better on their rates but atleast they get every phone that comes out. There plans are pretty much comparable. Service wise...well for me verizon hasnt been its greatest lately ( might be the antenna is my last s3 and now this s4 [ samsung problem ])
They make far too much money off most unlimited data users. They would rather milk those customers until they attrit naturally.
Too much financial risk. Most people do not "abuse" unlimited plans, so Verizon has far more to lose than gain. Not to mention the families on plans would be lost as well, of which most are not unlimited.
Nobody with any common business sense would force people out unless absolutely abusing the system and the user profoundly compromises the profit margin for that account. I could see Verizon target people like that.
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They make far too much money off most unlimited data users. They would rather milk those customers until they attrit naturally.
Too much financial risk. Most people do not "abuse" unlimited plans, so Verizon has far more to lose than gain. Not to mention the families on plans would be lost as well, of which most are not unlimited.
Nobody with any common business sense would force people out unless absolutely abusing the system and the user profoundly compromises the profit margin for that account. I could see Verizon target people like that.
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If they're not profitable, they'll get rid of them, and should.
How would they not be? Most do not abuse and the current rates are gouging level bad for caps. They would easily lose hundreds of millions if they cut unlimited, since most would leave. Human nature is very spiteful and very punitive to the perceived aggressor.
Counting family attached lines, home lines and entertainment packages they would hurt exponentially worse if not allowing natural attrition to reduce unlimited users.
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How would they not be? Most do not abuse and the current rates are gouging level bad for caps. They would easily lose hundreds of millions if they cut unlimited, since most would leave. Human nature is very spiteful and very punitive to the perceived aggressor.
Counting family attached lines, home lines and entertainment packages they would hurt exponentially worse if not allowing natural attrition to reduce unlimited users.
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I think you are overestimating how many people are out there really have been clinging to unlimited data. Its a big echo chamber here and in other android discussions.
I doubt Verizon will forcefully get rid of unlimited unless they have to. It's not really a problem for them, so why upset a small subset of users for any reason? Especially when the costs of these unlimited users are being recouped by the unused device subsidies?
Unfortunately I believe that "have to" moment will come with VoLTE.
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I miss my unlimited data I lost it when we switched to a share everything plan. Currently have 6gb of shared with I used most of it. But 6gb is just enough sometimes I need to watch my self at the end of the mouth.
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I'm gone if they ever forcibly take my unlimited. Not that they'd care...
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I think you are overestimating how many people are out there really have been clinging to unlimited data. Its a big echo chamber here and in other android discussions.
I doubt Verizon will forcefully get rid of unlimited unless they have to. It's not really a problem for them, so why upset a small subset of users for any reason? Especially when the costs of these unlimited users are being recouped by the unused device subsidies?
Unfortunately I believe that "have to" moment will come with VoLTE.
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I work in the mobile department at Best Buy, and you'd be surprised at how many customers I get looking to upgrade, or find a solution to keeping their unlimited plan. Its at least 1 out of 10 customers (or at least it feels like that to me). Now granted most of those people are using megabytes instead of gigabytes on their "unlimited" plan, however it does seem like people are still trying to hold onto it. I know my plan would go up by $70/month. I certainly will be switching plans when i need my next phone, but thankfully I'm on the S4.
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I think you are overestimating how many people are out there really have been clinging to unlimited data. Its a big echo chamber here and in other android discussions.
I doubt Verizon will forcefully get rid of unlimited unless they have to. It's not really a problem for them, so why upset a small subset of users for any reason? Especially when the costs of these unlimited users are being recouped by the unused device subsidies?
Unfortunately I believe that "have to" moment will come with VoLTE.
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There are millions still (local rep estimate). A key reason for all the newer plans and financing for full price phones that VZW does now. They were feeling pressure by the install base. Unlike At&t that screwed up with theirs.
Even though the article is outdated, they are still trying to get rid of the unlimited customers.
This applies to AT&T as well.
I really can't fathom the reasoning behind this, as the majority of unlimited customers never even come close to using the equivalent cost amount (based on regular plan pricing for 2 or 4 GB).
They also pick on those who "abuse" it by telling them they are within the top 5% or other things they use to threaten the customer and give "due cause" for removing the plan.
One has to wonder the legality of this, but does anyone actually know an attorney who not only has time to read the entire TOS/AUP, but also cares enough to review someone's individual contract?
I would say the best way to prevent them from the inevitable is just to leave when they do.
The problem with that method is that not only will it still happen, but I believe the user base may be too large for this to make a significant impact.
I also don't think Verizon cares that much about getting rid of us unlimited users.
Many of us pay full price for our phones. This will offset the small amount of extra data we use.
Also I read a ling time ago that 4g LTE data is cheaper for Verizon to provide than 3g.
Also when I went in and paid full retail for two S4's the salesgirl told us that not many do this. She tried to sell me a tiered plan but realized it would cost me $70 more per month for only the 2 gig shared plan. Obviously not a good deal. I have 5 lines and pay $10 per line for unlimited because of a $20 per line discount.
But if they ever did take it away from us I would go to a prepaid plan elsewhere. Unlimited and the good network are the only things keeping me with Verizon. I like to root and rom and Verizon is the most restrictive.
Someday I will have more fun elsewhere.
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hi guys and gals and all you trolls : D
http://www.androidcentral.com/leake...and-you-wont?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
We just got our hands of a copy of the latest Sprint Playbook, and while we were hoping for some more info about the LG Marquee and Kyocera Milano, what we found was a bit, well, different. It seems that in order to stay competitive with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint's words, not ours), some changes are going to be made to several of the perks everyone on Sprint takes for granted.
For starters, the Sprint Premier program is coming to an end. Current members will be hearing from Sprint sometime after Sept. 16 with all the details, but the short version is starting at the beginning of this month, enrollment in the program stopped, and you'll have to use your current (and final) Premier upgrade on or before Dec. 31, 2012. In addition, the other smaller but just as appreciated perks like accessory discounts and annual anniversary gifts end Dec. 31, 2011. Employees have been instructed how to let everyone down easy, but this will sting no matter how you slice it.
Next up, is a major change to Sprint's 30-day=satisfaction guarantee -- it's getting cut by 16 days. Like we've seen other carriers do, Sprint will now be switching to a 14-day return policy. They will still return everything but the restocking fee, you just have a couple weeks less to make up your mind.
Finally, starting Oct. 2, the "New For You" upgrade time is changing from 22 months, down to 20. Cutting the time down by two months is nice, but will hardly take the sting of losing the yearly Premier benefit away.
Nothing good can last forever folks, and as Sprint reminds us, they have to do something to stay competitive. In the end, it's a business and sometimes you have to rob from Peter to pay Paul. We have some relevant pages of the Playbook after the break.
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hi guys and gals and all you trolls : D
http://www.androidcentral.com/leake...and-you-wont?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
We just got our hands of a copy of the latest Sprint Playbook, and while we were hoping for some more info about the LG Marquee and Kyocera Milano, what we found was a bit, well, different. It seems that in order to stay competitive with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint's words, not ours), some changes are going to be made to several of the perks everyone on Sprint takes for granted.
For starters, the Sprint Premier program is coming to an end. Current members will be hearing from Sprint sometime after Sept. 16 with all the details, but the short version is starting at the beginning of this month, enrollment in the program stopped, and you'll have to use your current (and final) Premier upgrade on or before Dec. 31, 2012. In addition, the other smaller but just as appreciated perks like accessory discounts and annual anniversary gifts end Dec. 31, 2011. Employees have been instructed how to let everyone down easy, but this will sting no matter how you slice it.
Next up, is a major change to Sprint's 30-day=satisfaction guarantee -- it's getting cut by 16 days. Like we've seen other carriers do, Sprint will now be switching to a 14-day return policy. They will still return everything but the restocking fee, you just have a couple weeks less to make up your mind.
Finally, starting Oct. 2, the "New For You" upgrade time is changing from 22 months, down to 20. Cutting the time down by two months is nice, but will hardly take the sting of losing the yearly Premier benefit away.
Nothing good can last forever folks, and as Sprint reminds us, they have to do something to stay competitive. In the end, it's a business and sometimes you have to rob from Peter to pay Paul. We have some relevant pages of the Playbook after the break.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's about damn time.
Am I happy about this? Not at all. But this was going to happen eventually. Sprint is bleeding money without compare. As long as they continue to offer decent coverage, great prices and fantastic customer service I'm all for it. They need to stay competitive. Not to us, they are already very competitive to us...they need to stay competitive to investors or risk a takeover most likely coming from Verizon.
***** and complain all you want, where you gunna go? T-Mobile? Unlikely. That whole law-suit from the DOJ is nothing but a dog-n-pony show.
Sprint has to offer unlimited service, the same fantastic rates, unparalleled customer service while at the same time improving it's network infrastructure all around in order to stand a chance...they know it and it's about time they started acting like it.
....with a strategic partnership with Google they could change the entire game by ditching the voice-n-text strategy and being the first to embrace the "everything is data" paradigm. It's coming. "voice service" all by itself is so, well, last century. We all know it's already digital, why convert back twice and charge us for something we can now do on our own?
...that's just my take...
Well to stay competitive they say. Really how is offering the same price as the other 2 competitive. owell here comes the throttling not now but soon
(doesnt say that but thats the path). Very disappointed indeed.
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Well to stay competitive they say. Really how is offering the same price as the other 2 competitive. owell here comes the throttling not now but soon
(doesnt say that but thats the path). Very disappointed indeed.
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Well I'd have to say that Unlimited data plans and Unlimited data plans that are still $10-$20 cheaper than tiered (aka "limited data") plans is still a better deal....
....now they are on the same level with all of other companies for ETF and other "little things."
...and as I said they are already very competitive to us, far more than the other choices (besides the doomed T-Mobile)...but it isn't us they need to convince to not sell-out to Verizon, it's the shareholders....and that benefits us too.
As long as they keep the data unlimited, I could care about the other oerks
So much for upgrading annually that's the only reason i was with them
I am pretty disappointed in this news. I left at&t to come to sprint not just because of price but also because of the perks you get with being premiere. Annual upgrades, discounts on accessories, anniversary gifts, etc.
Yes. Price was nice but going to a company that ties verizon for customer service and appreciates its customers to give them a little something back once in a while really sold me on the idea.
The crappy thing is that just after I signed up for a plan that was sprint premier qualified, they switched to a tiered plan. So I was already like wtf! Not to mention that they also started to charge all smartphones a $10 premium instead of just 4g phones (though that didn't really effect me).
I can see the argument that says sprint needs to stop these perks in order to save a bit of capital in order to invest in the network, but I don't think this is a good move for sprint.
The fact is that sprint used to offer several perks that no other carrier did, and they were cheaper than the others. These extra perks made sprint very attractive. The tradeoff is that their network speeds are noticeably slower than their competitions. Many people take that tradeoff because of those perks.
I am betting that if people lose those perks, and all they are left with is an $8 a month savings, they will go to a more reliable network. This loss of customers will lead to a much greater loss of capital than these perks will. sprint still won't be able to invest in their network when they lose 25% of their customers. I just don't see this as being a a good move when you are trying to standout against the competition.
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Sprint needs to keep something in mind:
Sure, they have unlimited data (for now anyway), but beyond that if they align themselves too closely with Verizon and ATT, they may actually need to provide a reliable fast data service.
Why do I have better data speed when roaming? Because sprints network is pathetic in comparison. And if they align too closely, everyone that has been satisfied with unlimited data and yearly upgrades might start to notice how poor their service really is.
i see people saying sprint has unlimited data this is true ... but for how long changes like this happened to VRW right before the iphone was announced . what finally happened .. data caps . only thing that was helping sprint is unlimited data ..
now that the premiere is gone the upgrade fee is jumping etf is jumping what's going to keep people around ?
surely not the data speeds ..
Another thing...while unlimited data is great and all, only something like 2% of people use even 2GB a month. The fact is that the vast majority of people are good with limited data. the huge data hogs that are all drawn to sprint and leave other networks. This clogs up sprints already lackluster network even more while freeing up a competitors network. plus, since only a small percentage of people come to sprint for the unlimited data plan, that means they really aren't gaining market share. And to make matters even worse the customers they do get aren't really profitable because they are consuming so much data...
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This puts me close to my edge here. Been with sprint for over 10yrs as i was with nextel well before so i was enjoying my premier gold status and yearly upgrades.
This change will greatly make me rethink things when my yr comes up which will be in 2yrs as ill upgrade to whatever next yr while its still valid, and the yr after that will be the deciding factor. If I can't call and negeotiate getting the 2yr upgrade then walking i will likely be doing, and thats what will keep me here, long as i can call in and get the 2yr price ill stick here, first time that doesn't happen ill likely walk.
take away the silver status but **** reward something to the people that have stuck around through thick and thin 10yrs plus and let them upgrade every year!!
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i see people saying sprint has unlimited data this is true ... but for how long changes like this happened to VRW right before the iphone was announced . what finally happened .. data caps . only thing that was helping sprint is unlimited data ..
now that the premiere is gone the upgrade fee is jumping etf is jumping what's going to keep people around ?
surely not the data speeds ..
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You be trolling hard!!!
You have ATT!
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As long as they keep the data unlimited...
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Ditto, I'm still pissed but yeah, I'd drop premier if it meant keeping my data unlimited, Just like it say's in Hesse's dictionary.
I draw the line at the costs & the data.
I love all 12Mbps down of my unlimited data.
so instead of upgrading every year we have to wait 20 months for new upgrades? that's gonna suck ****ing hard for me. really hard. im not one too hang onto a phone for too long. especially this one
Up next, tiered data. I dont know why anyone is surprised...
I understand why Sprint is doing it, but it really pisses me off. I upgraded my plan in July to make my plan cost enough to be a Gold Premiere member and it would take affect next month. Then I would be eligible for an upgrade because I didn't use on for the Evo 3D and planned on using that upgrade to get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. I will be calling Sprint and I will be complaining to see if I can get my upgrade or at least downgrade my plan back to where it was and get my $ back for the 2 months I spent at a higher plan which will probably be 3 by the time I talk to them.
No other carrier offers the yearly upgrade, so this will put Sprint more on par with other carriers. To me it is still the best deal because of unlimited across the board for less than tiered plans with other carriers.
I understand why they would get rid of most of the program but they are WRONG to do that to the 10+ year members......If they don't keep it for us they will bleed MANY of their longtime customers!!!!!! It's just dirty to do this to 10+ year customers!!!!!
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Im a 10 year member too and very upset hearing about this. Im with Sgt Slaughter on this, the day i cant call in and upgrade is probably the day I walk.
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How useful is unlimited data when you get 100kbs download speeds with full 3G coverage? The only reason I'm with Sprint is because of all these little extra perks that they keep taking away. I've also been with Sprint for over 10 years and it's a real shame. I don't know about everyone else but in my area Sprint's backhaul is so bad that data speeds are absolutely ****! Particularly unusable during peak hours. Most of my friends have Verizon and although their bills are higher, they get awesome data speeds. There's also a rumor that Verizon will be getting LTE in my area soon. If that happens I would happily pay my EFT and sign up with Verizon. I've been waiting for 4G in my area since the release of EVO 4G and there's no plan of them adding it any time soon. I would sign with T-Mobile but they don't even have 3G data in my area. However, that actually might not be a bad idea because I only get 1X speeds on Sprint anyhow.
Soon, all the carriers will be offering very similar services. Sprint increased the ETF, added a few cents to the monthly bill, removed lots of perks they offered to premiere customers etc. With all these changes, how long do you think the unlimited everything plan will last?
Once Sprint upgrades it's 3g network to evdo rev b, that'll be the end of unlimited everything.
Ok, so I want the SG2, but keeping my current contract with AT&T proves to be difficult. If I upgrade with AT&T the SG2 is $199. If I upgrade through walmart letstalk.com $159, amazon wireless $149, deals2buy.com the SG2 is$99.
Talk about some great deal right? Only problem I have is that my contract would change. As many of you may or may not know, AT&T in their infinite wisdom removed their text tiering plan. It used to be something like $5 for 200 text a month, $15 for 1000 and $20 for unlimited. Because I don't text much, I went with the $5 for 200 text. I also opted into the $30 for unlimited data. I have been grandfathered into these options, but if I get the phone from an outside agency I would have to switch to AT&T's "awesome" $25 for 2gb data plan and be left almost without a text option unless I pay $20 for unlimited which is the only plan they have now. When I say I don't text much, I mean I'm barely breaking 80 a month and that's me really trying.
Now I don't use that much data mostly because of my current location. According to my data usage chart, I'm only using about 500mb a month. While the $25 for 2gb might seem like a good idea, I'd like to know that when I relocate within the next 6 months, that I won't have to worry about going over in data usage. When I'm in an area that has a good 3G connection, I watch a lot of videos when I have downtime and you can shoot past 2gb in no time.
I'm sure a lot of you are saying drop AT&T and what not, but the truth be told, I've never had any problems with them over the last 4 years. I think their rates are reasonable and I love the roll over option. So me leaving them is not an option anytime soon at least not until they royale screw me.
Are you 100% sure reseller's require you to change you data plan if you upgrade through them? If its true, then I would spend the extra money and go to an official AT&T store and buy one. I wouldn't sacrifice my unlimited data for anything.
I agree, do anything you can to keep that Unlimited Data plan.
Man the money you save up front would probably be negated over the course of the contract. If you dont have the money now just wait a spell, the price will come down of course after a while.
You should really look into your calling habits though. If you not using over 2gigs ever then you could save money there. Also with unlimited texts comes the free cell to cell deal. Thats any carriers cell not just att, which makes a huge difference. Everyone's situation is a bit different. att is actually pretty good about working with you on stuff like this. I have had them eat HUGE bills. I hate att for my own reasons, but this is one area where I have to concede their worth. Good luck to you. The phone really is bad ass, best phone I have had to date and I have had my fair share.
You are not forced to change data plan I upgraded to infuse 4g and kept data. I probably gnna get gs2 in a week or so. I do have the unlimited data btw.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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Are you 100% sure reseller's require you to change you data plan if you upgrade through them? If its true, then I would spend the extra money and go to an official AT&T store and buy one. I wouldn't sacrifice my unlimited data for anything.
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Yes they do. Once you add the phone to your cart, you have to pick a calling and data plan. While AT&Ts calling plans haven't changed, their data and texting plans have and the resellers websites options have changed to reflect that.
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Man the money you save up front would probably be negated over the course of the contract. If you dont have the money now just wait a spell, the price will come down of course after a while.
You should really look into your calling habits though. If you not using over 2gigs ever then you could save money there. Also with unlimited texts comes the free cell to cell deal. Thats any carriers cell not just att, which makes a huge difference.
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I don't talk on my cell that often that why I like the rollover minutes thing. As for going over 2gb, it can happen because I travel a lot and when I'm not at my remote location, I go over 2gb easily. I don't think saving $5 is feasible just because I'm not consistently going over 2gb every month. Right now I pay $30 for unlimited. If I do go with the 2gb plan, I'll be charged $10 for each gig I go over. With unlimited, I'm covered no matter what the hell happens.
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You are not forced to change data plan I upgraded to infuse 4g and kept data. I probably gnna get gs2 in a week or so. I do have the unlimited data btw.
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This is true if you do the upgrade through AT&T and not a reseller. AT&T isn't willing to cut me a deal on the phone simply because they don't have to. While I do understand this and I have the money to get the new phone at the price they are offering, it's always good to save a few bucks everynow and again.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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While that might be true, I'm not willing to take that chance. Like I said earlier, you are forced to make a choice for a data plan. If making that choice prevents me from switching back to having unlimited, that would be bad. Saving the money on the phone wont' be worth it in the end.
I just did this on Monday. I was on the old $30 unlimited data and the $5 for 200 text plan.
I got mine at Walmart. The rep had to call AT&T to get it activated. They are able to keep the $30 unlimited data but will require you to upgrade your text plan to get it activated.
However, if you immediately call AT&T (611) and talk to a rep, you CAN get your old $5 for 200 text plan back. It will require the rep to ask their supervisor, but they will do it for you.
Went from old AT&T plan from my iPhone 3GS and still have the unlimited and 200 text messages.
Well it sounds like you've got it all figured out then.with all due respect, I don't understand why you even created this thread when you just countered helpful comments and seemed to have answered your own questions.
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I made this thread to see if anyone else went through a similar situation. Also, if there was some way they managed to keep their plan, they would maybe be able to tell me how they did it.
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I made this thread to see if anyone else went through a similar situation. Also, if there was some way they managed to keep their plan, they would maybe be able to tell me how they did it.
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I just did if you read my post above...
I went to AT&T store and and them if they can give me $50 credit for getting the phone and i must keep my current features unchanged. The sales rep agreed and i walked out the store within 20 min with a phone. i paid $200 plus tax but he credited my account $50 right there.
When I bought my Infuse and kept my $5/200 texting plan and unlimited data - the GSII was bought outright off-contractr so didn't affect my account at all.
AT&T corporate stores are the way to go! They might not have the extreme hardware deals, but their representatives are FAR more competent and honest in my opinion.
I just did ths last night
I just upgraded to the S2 last night at an Att corporate store. The person who was ringinh me up told me the THE SAME THING. I need to change my data plan $30 unlimited and my $5 text plan. I have the same exact services as you do. She kept trying to put it through the system and it kept giving her errors saying that she could give me the data plan but not the text plan. In the end she was able to get it done and I kept everything that i had.
All i can tell you is to tell the rep to try every configuration to see if it goes through. If i remember right she ended up finding the text plan that would work but it was near to the bottom of her list.
It is 100% possible to keep because I was in the same exact situation.
I as well. : /
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Complete bull****.
I upgraded @ Best Buy, unlimited data remains.
I don't really text at all so I have no texting plan. I refuse to pay extra for something that costs the network infinitely less the a phone call would have.
You will find that many, if not all representatives will feed you that "Need to Upgrade your plan" line of bull.
It is their JOB! The more people they can trick and fool OFF of their unlimited plans, the more money they can make.
DO NOT EVER BELIEVE THEM!!!
My Best Buy store had some cash register issues when I picked up my SGSII. We had to complete the upgrade over the phone, in store. Can't count the number of times the AT&T guys said I had NO existing Data-Plan. I called Foul, as I've been on the Corporate data plan (for office email) from the beginning.
Now if you try to go the order online / nonhuman route, all bets are off.
I upgraded at Walmart IN STORE and had NO ISSUES keeping my unlimited grandfathered in everything plan. I too have the $30 data and $5 unlimited text plan. I did the SAME THING last year with my captivate but I HAD TO do it in store. Walmarts online LETSTALK would not allow me to keep my current grandfathered in plan and they cancelled my order. So I walked into the Walmart store and got it and kept my grandfathered plan. Just before upgrading to the att SGS2 I called and CONFIRMED that I can and will keep my unlimited plan a.d was assured by the retention department that I would. I called after I left the store with SGS2 in hand and again called att to CONFIRM that my plan is still listed as the Personal unlimited plan (grandfathered plan). The att retention department told me that IF the store gave me ANY ISSUES to just get the phone and call them once it was mine. So stick to your guns in it and don't just give it away.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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Same here. Just called threw a hissy fit gave it back lol
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I see my best bet would be to walk into Walmart and get that deal on the phone since I can't be sure things will work out with the other online resellers. It seems that buy making your voices heard it was possible to keep your plans. I think what I'm going to do first is call AT&T up and ask the question "If I upgrade my phone through a reseller, will you allow me to keep my current plan" and see what there response is. After that I'll argue with them about how I've been a customer for some years and because I'm renewing my contract, that's the least they could do for me. I'll be sure to get the sales reps name and ID number if they have one. Hell, I might even use my phone and let them know that I'm recording this call for quality assurance. That way I'll have some hard evidence that I was promised that I could keep my plan by the sales rep. I haven't had a reason to use my in call voice recorder but this seems like the perfect time.
Thanks for your input all, I'll let you know how things go and what deal I ended up getting.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ush-users-data-share/2012-05-16#ixzz1v3jKBWDs
Title says it all. What do u guys think?
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I think its gonna mean alot of people will hold off on upgrading there phones, folks aren't gonna give up that on a whim just to get a new phone.
It won't affect me because the razr was my first "smart phone" so I have the 4 GB double (2 GB) data for 30 bucks deal, so in 1 year and 9 months or later (depending on when we next upgrade) before we get to even use this data share (which i'm hoping will help reduce are monthly cost).
I got my Razr w/ 4G-LTE unlimited data grandfathered in.
VZW is going to change the terms mid-contract? I doubt they'd even try.
If limited data is my only option, I'll cancel. Lots of other people will, too.
You would be able to fight it. The only way they can is by tricking you and we all know they are into that!
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It won't be until your next upgrade cycle most likely, the "Keep My Current Data Plan" option will disappear.
So I have roughly 2 years, at which time I'll buy myself something off contract.
I will be very unhappy.
Ive been with Vz for about 8 years now. You would think they would have learned something with the huge backlash ATT got with their "unlimited plan" customers and getting taken to court.
If they will only change it from unlim to limited by upgrading AND with them charging a fee for upgrading... I see a lot of ppl getting phones elsewhere then.
Not happy to hear this
All companies involved in mobile data today are pushing users to the cloud for all storage, we have to stream our music, pictures and videos to and from our devices. On top of all the cloud services, the device manufacturers are limiting the storage capability on the devices. Take the Galaxy Nexus for example; it is built with no memory card slot, and so are many other devices coming to market today. At the same time we are buying limited storage mobile devices, all of the mobile data providers are cutting back on data allowances.
Are the data providers and device manufactures building this limited data structure together? I don’t know, but my gut says YES. As technology progresses it always gets cheaper and these companies are trying to change that relationship. I've been with big red for almost 8 years, the first 5 years my bill was no less than 500 a month, the last 3 has been no less than 275, all with unlimited data, always getting a little cheaper. If I get forced into a data plan that I have to watch just to keep from getting slammed with overage charges, I’m done! Not only done with Verizon, but I will give up all mobile data, purchase a few nice flip phones for my family and go month to month with Cricket or the like.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sto...unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers here sign this to stop it
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Not a lot of people will cancel. Who else can you use. In my area verizon crushes. I would gladly switch but no one even at a better price gets device where I need it. 9 guys in my shop are unlimited and 2 were crying about this.
Let's face it. Its money. Verizon will eventually fully phase out unlimited because they can. They will make more money and 97% will not leave because the red devil owns them. It sucks but its true. Lots of people don't come close to 2gb a month but I use around 6gb. I pay for 10gb.
What kills me is thru Cox cable internet I have the 12meg package w 15meg speed boost. It cost me $45 no and I get 200gb. Verizon charged $50 at a double data rate for 10gb. How does this happen? I don't mind paying tier plan if they were reasonable. For me 10gb should be $30. Realistically $15. Makes no sense how they gouge for data but they have more people lined up waiting for their service.
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Not a lot of people will cancel. Who else can you use. In my area verizon crushes. I would gladly switch but no one even at a better price gets device where I need it. 9 guys in my shop are unlimited and 2 were crying about this.
Let's face it. Its money. Verizon will eventually fully phase out unlimited because they can. They will make more money and 97% will not leave because the red devil owns them. It sucks but its true. Lots of people don't come close to 2gb a month but I use around 6gb. I pay for 10gb.
What kills me is thru Cox cable internet I have the 12meg package w 15meg speed boost. It cost me $45 no and I get 200gb. Verizon charged $50 at a double data rate for 10gb. How does this happen? I don't mind paying tier plan if they were reasonable. For me 10gb should be $30. Realistically $15. Makes no sense how they gouge for data but they have more people lined up waiting for their service.
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I agree. I hate to hear the news, but most will take it bent over. Its all about money. They could care less about customer satisfaction. I doubt 3% would be the final number of people leaving VW because of this change.
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I got my Razr w/ 4G-LTE unlimited data grandfathered in.
VZW is going to change the terms mid-contract? I doubt they'd even try.
If limited data is my only option, I'll cancel. Lots of other people will, too.
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Not according to the transcript on that article. It only effects the customers with unlimited plan migrating from 3G device to 4G's.
Fran Shammo - Verizon Communications Inc. - EVP & CFO
Well, the way we have designed this and of course, it is paper, not actual and we will see how this comes out, but the way we have designed this
is we really shouldn't see a short-term decline. And really the theory behind this is LTE is our anchor point for data share. So as you come through
an upgrade cycle and you upgrade in the future, you will have to go onto the data share plan. And moving away from, if you will, the unlimited
world and moving everybody into a tiered structure data share-type plan.
So when you think about our 3G base, a lot of our 3G base is unlimited. As they start to migrate into 4G, they will have to come off of unlimited
and go into the data share plan. And that is beneficial for us for many reasons, obviously. So as you pick what tier you want to be and we think that
there will be some price up in those tiers.
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Just buy your phone on ebay and sell it back on ebay. I figure i lose about $150 a phone each year. But i've had the Fascinate/droid charge/razr over the last year and half. All 3 were top phones. I don't plan on 'upgrading' see no reason for it. I will upgrade only the phone, but on ebay.
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Just buy your phone on ebay and sell it back on ebay. I figure i lose about $150 a phone each year. But i've had the Fascinate/droid charge/razr over the last year and half. All 3 were top phones. I don't plan on 'upgrading' see no reason for it. I will upgrade only the phone, but on ebay.
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That was my line of thinking after seeing this news, i got an upgrade to the RAZR with unlimited data late last year. If they don't flat out kill that anytime soon, i will probably "upgrade" via Ebay next time.
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I got on the tiered 3g for 30 and got the unlimited 4g hotspot for 30 when they still offered it. Because of that I have unlimited data currently. Do you guys think this change will affect me?
Spat from the mouth of mah Droid RAZR Maxx!
The truth is it will eventually affect everyone. The start is 3g.
High prices<tiered data<limited 3g<limited 4g.
Inevitable
THe clarification today was that if you ever get a subsidized phone or switch your plan, ie. 3g to 4g; you move to the new plans.
So if you are 4g and buy phones at full retail or elsewhere, no problem and you can keep it forever because you aren't making a change.
I know some people still on 350 minute loyalty plans. No issues, but they can't change a thing.
There was a leak from the new york time or something saying you can keep your unlimited data plan if you pay full price for a new phone instead of the subsidized price.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
No information was released by verizon so those are just prediction/assumptions. I have 5 lines with unlimited internet and 2 with 3g and 3 with 4g phones. I will hurry and get them into 4g phones asap. Every rumor tend to indicate that 4g phones are safe....... for now.
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droidxrooting said:
No information was released by verizon so those are just prediction/assumptions. I have 5 lines with unlimited internet and 2 with 3g and 3 with 4g phones. I will hurry and get them into 4g phones asap. Every rumor tend to indicate that 4g phones are safe....... for now.
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umm, yes it was:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/05/data-pricing.html
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
So it seems as long as you don't upgrade, for now you get to keep unlimited data.
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umm, yes it was:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/05/data-pricing.html
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
So it seems as long as you don't upgrade, for now you get to keep unlimited data.
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WTF? I just saw that. Thank you.
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Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Deekayy said:
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
droidstyle said:
As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
kinstre11 said:
This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
I only avg 20 GB a month or less. I pay $20 a month for udp
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
l7777 said:
I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
agreed. I live out in the boonies, I am on 1x and sometimes 3g. my internet is only dsl at 2.5Mbps (3g speeds) ... so whenever I hit 4g on my phone, I do everything with it. so i sometimes rack up 70gb+ a month. especially when im at work ..teamviewer, netflix, streaming cameras setup at various locations, music is always going, showbox, kodi (tends to use a lot more data than other streaming apps)... the data rack up quick.
Has anyone actually reported receiving a letter yet ?
I use it as primary internet. Been paying for it for so long. Screw paying $60+ a month for cable that is the same speed but doesn't offer the same capabilities that cellular data does. I rack up over 100gb a month but it's a business account so i doubt they will cut me off.
The fcc does nothing about the internet monopoly in my area because it's not considered a monopoly because wireless internet is considered an option. When verizon charges what they do for internet it clearly isn't an option. We all know verizon can afford to give you more GB's at a lower price.
Most of the infrastructure is already in place and they are paying purely for maintenance at this point. And when they are talking about faster speeds with xlte and lte-a they are expecting you to use more data but have no plans on reducing the cost per gb. Faster speeds means a larger resource pool to tap into. The excuse that heavy udp users are decreasing the speeds for others is basically a thing of the past at this point.
Honestly it's all bs marketing and political manipulation. Tell me why countries in the EU can offer unlimited lte data for 35 euoros a month, which people use as their primary internet source, if this isn't the case?
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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l7777 said:
I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Ummm?? "UNLIMITED DATA" Do know what that means? Lol, prompted!!! $$$$
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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dottat said:
More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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Maybe on average.. Some months around 500 and others 100. Feb 17th I say "GOOD<--->BYE" to VZW (they terminate unless I select a plan) after 10 f*$#ing years... not too sure what I'm going to do yet but obviously I cannot afford to stay with VZW..
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1droidmod said:
And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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You should send Verizon Customer Service this coherent, well thought out argument...I'm sure they will reconnect your UDP in no time....lol
Wait a second, I am currently experience a minor heart attack! They are CANCELING your UDP?!
I have not received a letter regarding this, is anyone else receiving this letter?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/09/verizon-unlimited-data-200gb-limit/
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
armorer243 said:
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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1droidmod said:
I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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They will regret it, T-Mobiles service, at least here is so spotty its not even worth paying for. When my wife had it she had to use my wifi tethering just to use her phone half the time we went anywhere.
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
I am sticking with my Verizon UDP for now, but i have also bought my wife a new phone on at&t's DirecTV unlimited plan that's up to 4 devices just incase verizon pulls out more bs. Figured id jump on that and get grandfathered on that also, since in my area at&t is second best if not identical to Verizon's coverage.
Sprint and T-Mobile are out if the question for me, been there done that.
afuller42 said:
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
armorer243 said:
I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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Oh I feel insulted for you as well. 12GB is not that bad at all. I average 45gb and have not received a letter yet. This whole ordeal is ridiculous. I would rather they implement a cap on the unlimited, like say 100GB or even 40GB and then slow us way down instead of just straight up removing us.