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Super noob here. brand newe to all things flash Rom and what not. This HD2 will be my first phone purchased for the purpose of modding however...
After doing a search for the words heat and hot I was not able to find much, and the wiki is down
So my first post is has anyone ran into the isse of the LED blinking green and orange and slow to no charge while plugged into the wall? To the point where it no longer charges?
I work in tech support and ive never seen anything like it outside of my gateway laptop.
I was running the stock ROM no mods yet outside of the Android mod that is being developed. i have master reset the thing easliy 10+ times in the few days ive had it though im not aware of constant reseting having a negative effect.
Basically on my way home while sitting in my console in the car I went to use it and noticed it was warm past comfortable warm. I had not used it for extended periods like hours of browsing wifi calls or using the phone hard.
I went to charge it 20 min later and it got really hot again after only being on the charger for 15-20 min and had only charged up to %15 from %13.
Took out everything let it sit overnight same thing the next day, tried a new battery and charger ( even though the battery was barely warm it is hot all along the bottom half on the back and going up the sides) and still had the same problem taking hour or 2 to charge 2-5 % and staying very hot with no use.
Im at a loss as to what to think any ideas?
tmotechsupport said:
Super noob here. brand newe to all things flash Rom and what not. This HD2 will be my first phone purchased for the purpose of modding however...
After doing a search for the words heat and hot I was not able to find much, and the wiki is down
So my first post is has anyone ran into the isse of the LED blinking green and orange and slow to no charge while plugged into the wall? To the point where it no longer charges?
I work in tech support and ive never seen anything like it outside of my gateway laptop.
I was running the stock ROM no mods yet outside of the Android mod that is being developed. i have master reset the thing easliy 10+ times in the few days ive had it though im not aware of constant reseting having a negative effect.
Basically on my way home while sitting in my console in the car I went to use it and noticed it was warm past comfortable warm. I had not used it for extended periods like hours of browsing wifi calls or using the phone hard.
I went to charge it 20 min later and it got really hot again after only being on the charger for 15-20 min and had only charged up to %15 from %13.
Took out everything let it sit overnight same thing the next day, tried a new battery and charger ( even though the battery was barely warm it is hot all along the bottom half on the back and going up the sides) and still had the same problem taking hour or 2 to charge 2-5 % and staying very hot with no use.
Im at a loss as to what to think any ideas?
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Heat will cause what you are seeing, but also check and make sure that one of your battery pins is not bent, seems to be a common problem ..
Also have seen a few people that their battery was just bad , and they had to get a new one shipped in .....
tmotechsupport said:
Super noob here. brand newe to all things flash Rom and what not. This HD2 will be my first phone purchased for the purpose of modding however...
After doing a search for the words heat and hot I was not able to find much, and the wiki is down
So my first post is has anyone ran into the isse of the LED blinking green and orange and slow to no charge while plugged into the wall? To the point where it no longer charges?
I work in tech support and ive never seen anything like it outside of my gateway laptop.
I was running the stock ROM no mods yet outside of the Android mod that is being developed. i have master reset the thing easliy 10+ times in the few days ive had it though im not aware of constant reseting having a negative effect.
Basically on my way home while sitting in my console in the car I went to use it and noticed it was warm past comfortable warm. I had not used it for extended periods like hours of browsing wifi calls or using the phone hard.
I went to charge it 20 min later and it got really hot again after only being on the charger for 15-20 min and had only charged up to %15 from %13.
Took out everything let it sit overnight same thing the next day, tried a new battery and charger ( even though the battery was barely warm it is hot all along the bottom half on the back and going up the sides) and still had the same problem taking hour or 2 to charge 2-5 % and staying very hot with no use.
Im at a loss as to what to think any ideas?
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I would task29, re-flash and try again....might be a bad download. Also...you work in customer service at Tmo?.......I might be interested in talking to you
M_T_M said:
I would task29, re-flash and try again....might be a bad download. Also...you work in customer service at Tmo?.......I might be interested in talking to you
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Sure cant make any promises but Ill be happy to answer any question I can. I work in Teir 3 PDA support so all of my knowledge is tech based. Ill look up the task29 stuff Im not too familiar with that.
since you have already tried a different battery, and if the pins aren't bent, then its likely to be the phones charging circuits. get it warranty replaced.
watcher64 said:
Heat will cause what you are seeing, but also check and make sure that one of your battery pins is not bent, seems to be a common problem ..
Also have seen a few people that their battery was just bad , and they had to get a new one shipped in .....
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I checked and didnt see it any bent pins they spring out just fine when removing the battery and apon inspection seem to be fine. One of the 1st things was for me to try a battery in hopes that it was that simple but to no avail
More information for those that care. The battery has been out now for a full 24 along with the sim.
I got home today and put the battery back in no sim memory card stil in. After being on for 8 min the back is far beyond warm.
The memory card is not recognized and I am certain it was before. This is getting weirder and weirder.
I wonder if it has anything to do with me trying to run the android mod off of a 2GB card that im sure was a class 2 and below, then master resetting it and going back to the 16GB that came with it?
More to come as i try new things.
Now the high temperatures in Austria cause the same problems on my HD2 when navigating in my car. HD2 after 2-5 minutes blinks orange-green (no loading) and after maximum 10-15 minutes crashes and at home too (my little office room has no AC, is in direct sunlight and room temp is over 30°C.
Unfortunately I have to rely on phone, email and office-functions and on navi-function for my upcoming vacation. No solution to place the HD2 in AC-stream in my car with this stupid original HTC-Car-Navi-Holder, in the office I have to put it in the fridge before to get it recharged.
When driving in the heat of noon I don´t even have to switch it on, just mounting into the loading-cradle is enough to make the HD2 crash after 10-15 minutes, only 3G on, nothing else (no BT, WiFi, HSPA, no app running etc.)
Until now I was quite satisfied with the HD2, had no crashes or malfunctions so far, but now I am really fed up with this piece of sh.. and I don´t think there will be a hardware or software-solution (except swichting it off) since the HD2 is malconstructed. And it IS correlated with ambient temps since it started to happen only when ambient temp is higher than 30 °C. When I am in a AC-room everything woks normal again.
i think i figured it out! i took out the sd and used the phone for 20 min or so. the heat gradually went away and its no longer getting hot. i am currently posting from the hd2 with a standard 2gb card inserted and will test my 8 and 16gnarled card today.
there is an issue with certain sd cards not being "officially supported"....
I read a post on here earlier from somebody saying that their 16gb card was causing their battery to drain fully in a matter of hours because audio manager was constantly working through numerous gb's of music on the card.........
may be completely unrelated to your problem but since you mentioned the card I thought Id chip that in..........
Hope you find a solution.....
I would like to know if anyone have similar issue?
It wasn't as noticeable or i just can't remember if it does this before i updated with wolf cynomod 6.13 v4-v5 2-3 months ago on stock.
But lately, i found my phone shut off itself whenever it start heating up. I got a temperature measure app from market but it doesn't show me what exact temperature when it does this.
For example, after 5-10 min use of google earth, my phone will shut off and reboot.
Is there a way to fix this issue? or could this be an issue with my battery ?
It issue is heating because i have a plastic case with x10 in it, it would shut off 5 min after use with it and 10 min after use without it.
Sorry if another topic like this existed, i did a search and couldn't find any. Maybe i just got the wrong keywords.
yeah i experience the same issue ever since official 2.1 update came out. Figured it was just the phone called SE and they said its not Software issue but a Hardware issue and send it in with Proof of purchase.
My batter does heat up specially when im playing games and have it charging.
i read something about faulty the motherboard on some X10's.
Im never tried to replace the battery if u wanna give it a try and let us know if that helped you or not.
mine has restarted with no WLOD it's just weird but still no overheating
I changed my charger from Stock to the universal SE charger. Then I never faced any battery heating issues
I had the same issue with my Xperia X10. I had bought it from random guy without warranty. But i had luck that guy wasnt bad, and he came after 1 hour i called him, and gave me a new one Xperia. Now when i play 3D graphic games, it heat as hell , but never restart , if u have warranty go to SE and tell them about your problem , they should replace your motherboard and it should work good . Good luck in solving this problem. ( And sorry for my bad english )
I think it is a issue with the battery being able to deliver enough power on some devices. Mine has a tendency to restart when moving around, especially with wifi and GPS enabled. When I leave work, where we have a company wifi, the phone often turns off around the point when I pass out of the coverage area if I have wifi enabled. Wifi off is never a problem. I would expect that if it lost connection, it would try to send at full power to connect to another source.
This never happens if I drive, and plug it into my car charger. Therefor I think it might be the battery that is not able to power my GPS wifi and bluetooth at the same time...
This is a battery issue. Mine never had a problem but my friend's phone would heat up like that and shut down. Replaced the battery and all is good.
Yesterday i updated my lumia 800 with the latest firmware and OS. Prior to update the full battery capacity was 1485 and charged upto 1372. The battery seems to last long now. I also got the network setup app from nokia.
Seems Improved :
1. Battery life
2. Smoothness
Problems :
1. The screen is very dull when set to automatic. It makes the screen look ugly
2. The battery first shows 1475 as full charge capacity later it shows 1445 and it decreases as we use and charge again. But still in detailed battery status full charge capacity shows 1475.
3. No audio improvement and they havent fixed the annoying crack sound while changing tracks(My htc touch 2 produces better audio)
4. Sometimes it freezes
5. No improvement in camera its default mode is macro.
6. Wifi issue is still not fixed
I wish i bough Samsung WP 7.5. Nokia flagship has lot of problems and they still haven't fixed it.
Also i dont have nokia music app. I am located in India.
Previously when ever i opened office and connected to skydrive it gave an error "encountered problem" . Now after flashing the new firmware i did a hard reset and tat problem was solved.
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The full battery capacity is decreasing its now at 1390...any suggestion should i replace my phone?
The vibration is not working properly. Is it because of the update? While in vibrate+Ring it only vibrate once and it just rings. The vibration when we touch the capacitive buttons is also reduced the my battery was below 40% while this happened. I will charge to 100% and i will post the status.
1. Screen adopts to brightness of environment. Why do you need bright screen at night?
4. Haven't any freezes for all the time I have this device. When does your device freeze?
5. Mine lumia saves focus setting and does not revert to macro.
6. What issue with wifi?
Chipsaru said:
1. Screen adopts to brightness of environment. Why do you need bright screen at night?
4. Haven't any freezes for all the time I have this device. When does your device freeze?
5. Mine lumia saves focus setting and does not revert to macro.
6. What issue with wifi?
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+1 on all points.
1. Night its fine. What about the day? Its very dull.
4. While scrolling but not always
5. It does save the settings. But still the camera quality is poor inspite of using carl zeiss lens.
6. While resuming it doesnt connect at times.
Also have you guys tried the WLAN tes? When ever i touch the option, it exits the acreen and opens the previous screen?
1. Hmm... At bright light it automatically sets high backlight setting, tested it yesterday. Your device doesn't?
4. Scrolling main menu? Maybe your device is faulty.
5. So there is no problem with defaults I assume. In any case phone camera is not dslr and "carl zeiss lens" here is just a plastic marketing thing. But for quick photos of documents etc its quality is acceptable as for me.
6. Your access point is hidden? I'm using 3 wifi networks (wpa2, not hidden) with my lumia and it always has stable connection (and it reconnects after sleep but it is feature, not a bug).
After doing the update the led light behind my 3 buttons stopped working.
I havent noticed any improvements in the battery life as im still only getting around 22 hours on a full charge.
Also the screen seems to be alot darker now that before the update.
Thats after setting the brightness to full.
The soft keys only light if low or auto brightness is used now.
Chipsaru said:
1. Hmm... At bright light it automatically sets high backlight setting, tested it yesterday. Your device doesn't?
4. Scrolling main menu? Maybe your device is faulty.
5. So there is no problem with defaults I assume. In any case phone camera is not dslr and "carl zeiss lens" here is just a plastic marketing thing. But for quick photos of documents etc its quality is acceptable as for me.
6. Your access point is hidden? I'm using 3 wifi networks (wpa2, not hidden) with my lumia and it always has stable connection (and it reconnects after sleep but it is feature, not a bug).
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4. When scrolling through applications in the apphilights or markerplace(maybe because of the internet speed??)
6.No the access point is not hidden. Its doesnt connect sometimes. Most of the time its fine
Have you tried the WLAN testing in diagnostics?? Its the last option.
Since the last patch my phone reboots. It doesn't do it all the time. Once irs on its fine. But if I turn it of for an hour or more then when I turn it back on it'll reboot 2-4 times before it settles down.
Anyone else had this?
I saw a thread in nokia forums(india) reg reboot issue. Btw have you tried a hard reset? Or restore it to 7740 using zune
rajan17_88 said:
4. When scrolling through applications in the apphilights or markerplace(maybe because of the internet speed??)
6.No the access point is not hidden. Its doesnt connect sometimes. Most of the time its fine
Have you tried the WLAN testing in diagnostics?? Its the last option.
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4. It must be a lag while loading content. Nothing serious I think.
I think that WLAN setting in diagnostics is for Lumia 900, like gyroscope.
I have another question. In ouor call logs i dont see the duration of our call. Is it another limitation in the OS or i am not seeing properly??
rajan17_88 said:
I have another question. In ouor call logs i dont see the duration of our call. Is it another limitation in the OS or i am not seeing properly??
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This is a limitation of Windows Phone. I'm sure something will come in the future...
UPDATE :
The full battery capacity is decreasing its now at 1370...any suggestion should i replace my phone?
The vibration is not working properly. Is it because of the update? While in vibrate+Ring it only vibrate once and it just rings. The vibration when we touch the capacitive buttons is also reduced the my battery was below 40% while this happened.
For every charge the battery capacity decreases
I've heard of the decreasing battery problem several times. I can't check on mine since I just sent it in becaus of a faulty display. I would recommend to contact Nokia via mail or via twitter (@NokiaHelps). They usually respond very fast...
rajan17_88 said:
UPDATE :
The full battery capacity is decreasing its now at 1370...any suggestion should i replace my phone?
The vibration is not working properly. Is it because of the update? While in vibrate+Ring it only vibrate once and it just rings. The vibration when we touch the capacitive buttons is also reduced the my battery was below 40% while this happened.
For every charge the battery capacity decreases
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Yes you should return for full price and buy a replacement. An exchange could be a refurbished phone.
Your phone is broken*, why wouldn't you return it?
(* Before someone says it's a firmware issue, this might be so but right now the phone is not operating as it should and thus is broken in the eyes of the user)
the battery has reduced to 1300 and its reducing. Its only been 15 days since i bought it. I am going to replace it with new one or getting my money back!!!
This is from the nokia forums
"I spoke to a representative at a Nokia care point today, and he started all phones showing over 1000 are not faulty and may not be eligs le to be replaced.
I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the poor battery performance on these phones , and apparently it is not just yself with their batteries only varying to around 80% advertised capacity"
I am not sure whether they will replace it!!!! ohh got its really frustrating! I spent so much money on this!
rajan17_88 said:
This is from the nokia forums
"I spoke to a representative at a Nokia care point today, and he started all phones showing over 1000 are not faulty and may not be eligs le to be replaced.
I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the poor battery performance on these phones , and apparently it is not just yself with their batteries only varying to around 80% advertised capacity"
I am not sure whether they will replace it!!!! ohh got its really frustrating! I spent so much money on this!
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How old is the phone? Can you return it within the 14 day grace period?
I don't have problem with decreasing battery capacity. Because if it decrease, I would not know it! The phone cannot show my battery capacity anymore and display '?' sign on battery meter!
On device testing tool shows 0v, 0mah 0 everything Yay! I am running on oxygen power!
So I have a rather strange problem.
You all know those interference noises a phone causes while receiving a SMS or a call.
If I'm home the whole day I have no problem with those noises. I only have them occasionally when i get an sms or something like that.
But when I leave the house for uni for example and return later my speakers are constantly humming and it doesn't really stop. It will only stop after I turn on airplane mode and turn it back off.
Also during that time the battery drains rapidly. It's about 10% per hour.
I've had that problem with the stock rom and then went through all Resurrection Remix Versions since 2.1, but the only difference was the volume and the sound of the interference. But it never went away.
Currently I'm on Resurrection Remix 2.4 with Siyah 3.3.2 and Modem Version I9100DXLP9.
I guess I could try all diferent modem versions and look if it fixes the problem. But since I don't really know what I have to do to start it, it's a little tricky to check if it is really fixed. I only know for certain that the problem occurs after returning from uni.
Here's a screenshot of the battery drain of today.
It contains:
1. night
2. leaving the house and listening to beyond pod on my way to uni (first awake period)
3. while in uni checking the time
4. driving back, listening to beyond pod, playing on gbadroid
5. at least you see the gap in the wifi status, that's where i turned on and off the airplane mode
the prblm is radiowaves tht interfere the electronic devices,well i don kno wat settings or any tweaks u on,,,but a good idea is to check if ur cordless phone,oven,tv all r placed at far distance as per electronic rules,an yes sometimes these things happen.its not neccesary tht it takes place for all..during my studies we had this project on y the tv gets mass disturbance during lunch hrs,see the real prblm was the oven ,behind the wall and the phone,very clearly the oven will on,cause its lunch time an ppl usd to make calls cause it was free time too..so check ur devices an post
If you mean that another device is disturbing the speakers, then I can tell you that that is definitely not the case since the interference stops once I turn the phone off.
Also I don't think that any device is interfering with my phone because the problem vanishes after I reboot.
I wrote before that it suffices to turn on airplane mode and turn it back off, but today that also wasn't enough. The disturbance went away, but the battery drain stayed. So I turned the phone off, removed the battery, waited a few secs, put it back in and turned it on again. After that the battery percentage dropped instantly from 19% to 12% but since then it has stayed at 12%.
I made another Screenshot:
I think I have an idea what could be causing the problem. I think it has to do with GSM/UMTS.
Where I live there is hardly any UMTS connection. So I guess, when I leave the house and come into UMTS region my phone switches to that, but after I get home it has problems switching back to GSM and that's what's causing the noise.
It's only a wild guess, but I try to confirm it during the next days. I just switched to UMTS only. That means I have hardly any connection at home, but I'll see wether that helps my problem...
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I think I have an idea what could be causing the problem. I think it has to do with GSM/UMTS.
Where I live there is hardly any UMTS connection. So I guess, when I leave the house and come into UMTS region my phone switches to that, but after I get home it has problems switching back to GSM and that's what's causing the noise.
It's only a wild guess, but I try to confirm it during the next days. I just switched to UMTS only. That means I have hardly any connection at home, but I'll see wether that helps my problem...
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UMTS ought not provide the same sort of interference. I don't know the technical reason anymore, but my understanding is that only 2G induces that kind of interference in other circuitry.
That's why I think maybe it's stuck switching between UMTS and GSM and everytime it switches to GSM it interferes with my speakers and that constant switching is causing the battery drain.
I guess it could have something to do with the fact that there is no reception in my lecture hall at all.
I will have to try to track down wether that constant disturbance and battery drain only happens after the phone hasn't had any reception for a longer period of time or if it is always after I leave the house.
So today I was again in that mentioned lecture hall and after returning home the speakers again wouldn't shut up.
I noticed a little downward arrow in the connection bar. I don't really know what that's doing there since I have wifi active and no data connection.
After a while disturbing the speakers and not getting really good signal it changes to UMTS. The disturbance is gone but so is my connection.
After a reboot the arrow and the disturbance are gone. So I guess there is some data connection that is stuck or something like that?
So I bought my phone from AT&T just as the new M8 was coming out (got a good deal as a result) and ever since that day its been dependable, efficient, and never lagged a single second.
But then the HTC Sense 6 ROM started to act up, opengl issues, and various bugs that drove me insane! So I switched to CM11, (btw no IR or radio or hardware encoding support on it) and all went well until about 2 weeks ago.
Suddenly my phone is sluggish at times, especially on switching applications, and the battery life went from around 10 hours average usage, to 5... Now its down to 3... Not only that but the phone is HOT!
If I even watch a Twitch stream, or YT video, or play a game, or even navigation, camera, chrome, anything with it (including listening to music), the device gets to 43 degrees C. That is with the device out in the air, passively cooling.
If I leave it on a surface, with the back covered up (like in my pocket, or watching a video in my bed) it will go past 50 C, and climb further! At one point in my car while driving, (was charging and navigating, aux was connected so i could get audio navigation through my speakers) I suddenly realized I had past my exit 5 miles back, and had to stop to check the phone...
The phone was not responding to my wake button presses, nor holding it down, it was not outputting directions, and the red LED light was softly lit (not flashing) so immediately I unconnected the charger, and aux cable. The phone still didn't respond, holding power + vol up soft resetting it worked. But what struck me most was how blooming hot it was! It was NOT in direct sunlight, nor was the display on. It practically burned my hands! I had to look up how to soft reset the phone, using my old LG Nitro HD which is my GPS tracker for my car (nifty setup btw).
Now I had an LG Nitro HD which did this sort of thing 24/7 and I could not STAND that phone, since you had to baby the device every second to keep it cool, otherwise you would need to restart.
I have seen numerous threads online about the HTC One getting toasty, and it has before for me, but NEVER THIS HOT! Also this only JUST started happening (its not related to CM11 since I had a backup of HTC's ROM and it did the same thing (in fact it was even slower x.x)
Now here is my question : is this a normal occurrence for smartphones of this age? I think its 1-2 years old... Its past the warranty I suppose (still have the card, and box btw) Is this something that I just have to deal with?
I have used the phone alot while it was charging, and left it on a charger for a long time after it was fully charged... (i thought newer phones had a disconnect for charging)
What bothers me is how suddenly the phone has become stricken with this... problem. It has only been 2 weeks, and battery life is effectively halved, and I am afraid to even USE navigation anymore (unless I hold the phone up infront of an AC vent, which I did all the way home >.< not a fun task since its a manual!)
Thanks in advance!
I had this issue with my M7 for T-Mobile. I would factory reset it and things would be okay for a while until I logged into all of my common apps and realized it would happen again... Some apps make the phone work harder and a lot more on the M7... The way I fixed this was I removed apps I didn't really use and make sure to not be logged into apps that I don't commonly use... The other thing I did was restart after using any video and audio apps... One more thing was I turned on the power saver option with vibrate and cpu unchecked and my phone started acting better...
Edit: if you have insurance through at&t I would go back to complete stock (get rid of tampered flag and red warranty warning included) and let them know it's freezing up. They should send you a replacement and it may help you out...
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I had this issue with my M7 for T-Mobile. I would factory reset it and things would be okay for a while until I logged into all of my common apps and realized it would happen again... Some apps make the phone work harder and a lot more on the M7... The way I fixed this was I removed apps I didn't really use and make sure you not be logged into apps that I don't commonly use... The other thing I did was restart after using any video and audio apps... One more thing was I turned on the power saver option with vibrate and cpu unchecked and my phone started acting better...
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Yeah actually I just factory resetted the phone, and its absolutely normal now... Furthermore the USB speed is no longer 1mb/s and instead is back up to USB3 speeds!
BTW I did a firmware AND software factory reflash / reset.