I've already preordered my Sony Xperia ZU from atgsm.com
Although it's backordered right now and I have to wait another week for it to arrive, ( SUCKS because I even got FedEx 2 Day Shipping! ): )
I can POSITIVELY and SURELY CONFIRM that:
C6833 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile as this uses BAND 4
C6806 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 Works on all networks EXCLUDING 4G LTE
Hope this clears up any confusion. The International version of the Xperia ZU will work on all networks that have 4G LTE as well EXCEPT AT&T'S, presumably because it does not have the supported band. (I cannot confirm but am 99% sure) The North American (US) version will be slightly cheaper by $20-$50 depending where you order it from. The only true benefit of this (besides saving money of course) is the ability to connect to AT&T's 4G LTE network. Other than that, they are both the same. (EXLCUDING C6802 which does NOT support ANY 4G LTE speeds)
If you don't want to wait until after October 14 like me, go ahead and get the international version. Some websites have good deals and you might be able to get it at an equal price OR cheaper compared to the C6806 if you look wisely and do your research.
Personally, the international version is the way to go if you aren't on AT&T's network because if you ever go somewhere outside of the US, you can still use prepaid phone plans or such and access the internet. For such an amazing device coming with a premium price tag, I'd like to be TRULY mobile with my phone!
PLEASE stay tuned as when my Xperia ZU arrives I'll do a live video of me taking off the Anti-Shatter Film as some of you wish to do so. (Same here) I'll also post up some pictures of the cases I have and screen protectors I'll be using (SPIGEN TEMPERED GLASS COMING SEPT. 30!) and various tests (NOT the usual ones you see of benchmarks and such, but rather more interesting ones like size and everyday practical use)
If you guys have any questions just feel free to ask, we're a community here so let's see what valuable knowledge we can offer!
-Purple_Clouded
Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.
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Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.
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So that means you could'nt use the c6833 on At&t LTE network then.
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I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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I have the Sony Xperia Z Ultra 6802 and I'm useing it on At&t. But I will be getting the 6806 so I can have the benifit of LTE.
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One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.
AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).
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You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.
AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).
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Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
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Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
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Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.
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can you please explain how
clubtech said:
Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.
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I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g
nihal1983 said:
I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g
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Normally you will NOT see a LTE logo unless yo do some time of root or customization outside o the stock Sony UI and launcher that came with the phone. (I cannot confirm but so far with my recent phones, this has always been the case.) The only real possible way of proving that you're on LTE from T-Mobile is by getting an app and clocking your internet speeds.
Regardless, if you're satisfied with the speed of your data connection and the lightspeed of the Sony ZU, there's no need to bother. (Unless of course you feel conscious of shelling out the extra 50 or so dollars.)
Rest assured, my ZU C6833 will be coming in this Friday and I myself am on T-Mobile. I've heard time and time that everyone has been able to connect to their respective 4G LTE networks with ease, and combined with the speed and finesse of the phone it's a breeze to surf the web, play games, multitask etc. I hope that you're satisfied with what you have! It would be a shame if you device was faulty! (Let's hope not!)
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Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
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Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.
T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).
The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.
Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.
Thank you for the confirmation.
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Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.
T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).
The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.
Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.
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Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.
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Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.
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Can you please share the apn and what do you see under the mobile networks.I see 4g cdma etc.
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Here you go!
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I don't see the lte option in networks. I added the apn manually
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4g not lte for me
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4g not lte for me
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It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.
thanks
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It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.
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I have an t-mo s4 and i get lte, funny thing is i get lte speeds no logo shown or in the networks shows 4g not lte
I have the same APN settings on my c6833. I get LTE on T-Mobile in some areas (San Diego, California) but if I go somewhere there is no LTE, I get no data. It's like the phone doesn't want to switch to HSPA+ or anything else if there is no LTE. Do I need multiple APN's or does anyone know how to fix the data being either LTE or nothing?
Edit: I changed the "Bearer" to "Unspecified" instead of "LTE" and now it gets H+ but no LTE... Weird...
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I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
Link
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
So, the trade-off for early access to the much-anticipated phone is less functionality. The international model’s 3G HSPA+ should have no problems with the AT&T network – though won’t step up to LTE – but won’t work on T-Mobile USA’s 3G as it lacks support for the 1700 band.
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Are you sure that's what you read?
Another way of reading it, is that T-mobile doesn't support the 1700 band, required for LTE. But what do I know? I only know that the modem firmware certainly supports the 1700 band, but whether or not this is implemented in hardware is a different story, but it would have been stupid not to have done it. The only way to tell, is if someone can start posting some internal pictures of the PCB so we can see what radio chip sets are used within.
You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Some people just don't understand that though..
sigh.
...and how about AT&T?
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
Thanks for information guys. I was willing to buy and S3 but it looks like I won't.
I still have an amazing phone(GNEX). Go with it
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You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
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SNaReX said:
I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
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Galaxy Nexus is penta-band (it supports a bunch, including 1700), and hopefully the next nexii will be as well.
To check for compatibility in future, you just need to compare the phone's frequencies with those listed for the provider (can probably find them on wikipedia even). In this particular case, you'll have to wait for the t-mobile s3 if you want hspa+.
It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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Agreed, you shouldn't make phone decisions on the basis of something that might happen eventually; who knows when they'll even get to your geographical location.
The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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mike2518 said:
You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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Clearing out 1700 for LTE doesn't mean 1900 will be refarmed at the same time. They have been "refarming" for quite a while and still only have small areas to show for it.
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The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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It has nothing to do with T-Mobile. If pentaband phones can exist it isn't that big of a deal to include the band. It is a European phone and they don't use the 1700mhz/2100mhz combo band that T-Mobile uses.
T-Mobile also isn't the only carrier in North America to do this, so it's not like they're the only one.
galaxy s3 has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 , no 1700. so it doesn't work with t-mobile 3g right now.
Hi, I just purchased the DNA and registered it with the mobile. I am having trouble with the tower connections. I can only seem to get on EDGE GSM and some other really slow networks. I know the DNA supports the 1900and 2100mhz bands and t mobiles hspa 4G works only on 1700mhz. So if this is true, when is t - mobiles new 4G 1900mhz network coming to Toledo Ohio?
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Hi, I just purchased the DNA and registered it with the mobile. I am having trouble with the tower connections. I can only seem to get on EDGE GSM and some other really slow networks. I know the DNA supports the 1900and 2100mhz bands and t mobiles hspa 4G works only on 1700mhz. So if this is true, when is t - mobiles new 4G 1900mhz network coming to Toledo Ohio?
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it is true, and there is no way to know when they are going to light up the 1900 band in your area. You can see where the 1900 band currently is here. But for now have fun with 2g
Yea. Thanks man. I went to the t mobile store today and verfied the above. They said the new 1900mhz service will be up very soon. He said in march is when he thinks it will happen in Toledo and absolutely by June.agency
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Yea. Thanks man. I went to the t mobile store today and verfied the above. They said the new 1900mhz service will be up very soon. He said in march is when he thinks it will happen in Toledo and absolutely by June.agency
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Just so you know the guy in the store was just speculating. He knows nothing more than the general public knows.
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Here in Youngstown Ohio we got the 1900mhz activated =)
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I'm on a T-Mobile contract, and I drool over the development support of the Nexus 4, but I need to have a SD card to put all my music on my phone. I plan on doing the N4 conversion, but I need the phone to do these things:
1) T-Mobile support for HSPA or LTE in New York City and Central NJ. Does T-Mobile LTE work on this phone?
2) SD card support
3) Tethering on T-Mobile. I don't have their official tethering plan but it works on my Galaxy S II CM10 rom.
Experiences?
T mobile lte will work once they turn on it. This phone uses band 4 and 17 and t mobile uses band 4 for lte.
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Thanks. I wonder if it's possible to flash the T-Mobile radio from the N4 and it would work. Since they're basically the same phone...
I haven't gotten the phone yet so I can't test.
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T mobile lte will work once they turn on it. This phone uses band 4 and 17 and t mobile uses band 4 for lte.
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Woah so your saying the E970 will be compatable on T-Mobiles LTE Network? Im in washington DC BTW.
If you sim unlock it, you bet.
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So the at&t optimus G run on the same bands as tmobile lte?
Yes
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Thanks for the confirmation for LTE. Now would it work for T-Mobile's 3G HSPA?
drexvil said:
Thanks for the confirmation for LTE. Now would it work for T-Mobile's 3G HSPA?
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Ya it will for sure...
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Ya it will for sure...
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Um, you shouldn't be so quick to answer incorrectly. It'll only work in the cities that tmo has refarmed. Google it for the list of cities. Search term "t mobile spectrum refarming".
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Um, you shouldn't be so quick to answer incorrectly. It'll only work in the cities that tmo has refarmed. Google it for the list of cities. Search term "t mobile spectrum refarming".
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Yes double this. I just switched my optimus g to tmobile and it will definately pick up edge but hspa+ is in some areas. Fortunately im in washington DC so its cool sometimes. Unless im moving around in dc then its just a constant in and out. It seems like Tmobile is 1 full step behind at&t when it comes to service and data. They go from hspa+ in dc to Edge but on at&t at least it goes from lte to hspa+ also the quality does not drop anywhere near as much. Tmobile feels like a souped up prepaid service.
My money is on T-mobile. For almost half the monthly cost of AT&T, i get consistent hspa+ speeds of 10-12mb down and 1-2mb up, in my city's refarmed 1900mhz T-mobile market. When T-mobile flips the switch on their LTE, it will be comparable to AT&T/Verison/Sprint LTE, with faster fallback hspa+ speeds and at significant cost savings to boot imo.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/22/t-mobile-4g-lte-cities-new-york/
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Thanks for the confirmation for LTE. Now would it work for T-Mobile's 3G HSPA?
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The OG can pick 1900 frequencies for HSPA so you'll get 3G speed. That's until T Mobile switches frequencies.
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The OG can pick 1900 frequencies for HSPA so you'll get 3G speed. That's until T Mobile switches frequencies.
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I wish you guys could read. Not every tmo market has 1900mhz 3g hspa or hspa+. Google it and make sure your market is on the list. If it's not, it will be soon.
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The OG can pick 1900 frequencies for HSPA so you'll get 3G speed. That's until T Mobile switches frequencies.
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what frequencies will they switch to? only reason they're turning on 1900mhz was for iPhones. they're not gonna shut down after its rolled out. once said and done. T-Mobile will have more spectrums
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Don't worry about it. Not happening anytime remotely like soon
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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I know the Moto X has more bands for Tmobile's version vs. AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the LG G2 as well
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
this doesn't answer the OP's question, but, i have a sim unlocked att G2 and i can get 4G and 4G LTE service with my T-Mobile sim/account. coverage is not as good as at&t in my location.
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Hmm. So you have Tmo plan and the ATT model didn't get you any LTE at all?
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I have AT&T and im using the t-mobile G2
I get 100% LTE everywhere I go. no problems whatsoever. havnt seen my phone display anything lower than 4G (and 4G LTE)
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leony74 said:
I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Not sure of the truth to that. Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t all support LTE band 4 which is AWS 1700. It might be more likely a carrier lock that prevents you from getting full coverage?
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Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800ZNFD800AT&T850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801ZNFD801T-mobile850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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mrbungle999 said:
Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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I'm in AZ and actually purchased LG on day one that AT&T sold it. They did not want to sell out-right so I got a prepaid service and told them I would not activate until next month...Manager looked at me like I was a terrorist. Went outside and on my then GS4 went to an unlocker site and SIM UNLOCKED LG in about 25 mins. I tried two different APNs and one seems to be best as I have LTE mostly all over the valley!
SUMMERY
-Got phone before anyone else on TMObile
-Got phone at least $60+ cheaper W/taxes
-I can use the WIFI free hotspots of AT&T, always on the road...
-At work my LTE is 27-36mb down compared to 12on att co-workers, and Verizons 17MB on a different co-worker!
-At home my signal is a tiny bit spotty, oddly is only in my room ge 1-2 bars H+
kyler13 said:
LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Oh I totally forgot about the wifi thing...is that an ATT service that works with our ATT plan, or will it know I'm using a Tmo phone and not let me connect? Not a big deal since I have 2 GB and always come under each month but itd be nice to have.
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ergoautumn said:
Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Well, since t-mobile's 3g/umts is predominantly on the AWS 1700 band, utilizing a t-mobile SIM on the at&t model will result in sparse coverage for 3g, short of roaming. I understand t-mobile has built out some of their 3g on 1900 as well so that would work for you. Based off of frequency support, I would say the t-mobile version is the better one to unlock and potentially use between at&t and t-mobile networks. LTE band 5 support doesn't buy you anything domestically.
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Thank you everyone for your input . Guess Tmo it is.
Though...One wonders what their software support is like...I read that since they do wifi calling they're updates have to go through extra approval above and beyond the othercarriers because they have to deal with the FCC?
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ergoautumn said:
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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Here in the Bahamas we don't have LTE yet, but we're planning on covering the same spectrum as AT&T, bands as well.
no AT&T LTE on T-mo G2
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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x714x said:
Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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Incorrect. T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.
Now that the department of justice approved T-Mobile's purchase of the A-block spectrum from Verizon, will the Z Ultra c6806 be able to use this once activated?
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Now that the department of justice approved T-Mobile's purchase of the A-block spectrum from Verizon, will the Z Ultra c6806 be able to use this once activated?
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It does support Lte 700, yes.
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It does support Lte 700, yes.
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No. The C6806 supports LTE Band 17 (700b and 700c). The spectrum that TMobile just bought lies in LTE Band 12 (700a). When I learned this, I decided that a C6833 might make more sense for someone like me, who uses T-Mobile domestically but wants support for LTE 800 and 1800 MHz when traveling overseas. See my Google spreadsheet comparing the bands supported by the three major LTE versions of the Z Ultra.