Twitter user Llab TooFeR (@LlabTooFeR) got tech fans speculating on the prospects for HTC devices after tweeting: "2012 devices won't get it...only butterfly/droid dna might 4.4..."
According to Llab TooFer, that means HTC One X, HTC One X+ and HTC One S won't be able to get the Android 4.4 KitKat update.
HTC hasn't given any official word about it ,JB required high amt of ram to run, google says that 4.4 is built in such a way that it can be feeded into phones which have low ram. What do you think about this?
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This says it wont
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/09/10/htc-one-x-android-4-4-kitkat-update-already-doomed/
This says it will
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/506245/20130916/android-4-kitkat-os-18-smartphones-tablets.htm
Only if nvidia updates a base for tegra3/hox. Which is doubtful.
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somemadcaaant said:
Only if nvidia updates a base for tegra3/hox. Which is doubtful.
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With this logic, we should at least get a 4.3 update. But I doubt HTC will even give us that.
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With this logic, we should at least get a 4.3 update. But I doubt HTC will even give us that.
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Some of us can't even get a 4.2 update
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We still have not received 4.2..... 4.3/4.4 is a long shot... :silly:
Sufiyankhan1994 said:
Twitter user Llab TooFeR (@LlabTooFeR) got tech fans speculating on the prospects for HTC devices after tweeting: "2012 devices won't get it...only butterfly/droid dna might 4.4..."
According to Llab TooFer, that means HTC One X, HTC One X+ and HTC One S won't be able to get the Android 4.4 KitKat update.
HTC hasn't given any official word about it ,JB required high amt of ram to run, google says that 4.4 is built in such a way that it can be feeded into phones which have low ram. What do you think about this?
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This says it wont
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/09/10/htc-one-x-android-4-4-kitkat-update-already-doomed/
This says it will
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/506245/20130916/android-4-kitkat-os-18-smartphones-tablets.htm
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Nobody knows how they act and what they will release... Look at Kernel Stuff e.g.
If they won´t release newer sources for kitkat and next sense, they will hopefully give devs the necessary driver for AOSP ROMS !
4.2 has started rolling out for HOX/HOX+ , Samsung is skipping 4.2 update for s3 and note 2 and these devices will directly receive 4.3 update, Might be the same case with hox devices? As 4.2 has rolled out, they might skip 4.3 and directly launch 4.4 as it has low ram requirements too.
What you guys say?
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4.2 has started rolling out for HOX/HOX+ , Samsung is skipping 4.2 update for s3 and note 2 and these devices will directly receive 4.3 update, Might be the same case with hox devices? As 4.2 has rolled out, they might skip 4.3 and directly launch 4.4 as it has low ram requirements too.
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U talking AT&T? I doubt they will do a 4.4 for this device. Maybe the ONE will get it but still late .
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http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Sony-releases-its-Android-drivers-for-AOSP-1866929.html
That is a way how companies should act ...
So that means for me Nexus or models which supports the developing
No, Talking about Intl. Model, Ofcourse ONE will go 4.4 as its their current flapship. they should do 4.4 for one series as HTC has less no. of Top Notch cellphones in the market compared to samsung, So Sammy wont pay attention to all of its devices. Whereas HTC has handful, After ONE, its Its HOX/HOX+ and the remain one series. Thats what i am saying :fingers-crossed:
Sufiyankhan1994 said:
Twitter user Llab TooFeR (@LlabTooFeR) got tech fans speculating on the prospects for HTC devices after tweeting: "2012 devices won't get it...only butterfly/droid dna might 4.4..."
According to Llab TooFer, that means HTC One X, HTC One X+ and HTC One S won't be able to get the Android 4.4 KitKat update.
HTC hasn't given any official word about it ,JB required high amt of ram to run, google says that 4.4 is built in such a way that it can be feeded into phones which have low ram. What do you think about this?
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4.4? You have to be freaking joking. Half of us (including everybody in CID 044 Southeast Asia) still don't even have 4.2.2, close to seven weeks after it first started rolling out.
There is zero chance HTC will give any of us 4.4. And it has nothing with inability to run it; it's because they couldn't give a flying hoot, even about their supposed flagship devices.
If you buy from HTC, you're a sucker. I won't be doing so again.
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No, Talking about Intl. Model, Ofcourse ONE will go 4.4 as its their current flapship. they should do 4.4 for one series as HTC has less no. of Top Notch cellphones in the market compared to samsung, So Sammy wont pay attention to all of its devices. Whereas HTC has handful, After ONE, its Its HOX/HOX+ and the remain one series. Thats what i am saying :fingers-crossed:
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4.2 might be the last update for HOX/HOX+.
We WONT be getting kitkat the X+ is end of life
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Honestly, I believe that 4.4 will be the end of the road for us. I believe that they will give out 4.4 by the summer of 2014 and skip 4.3 entirely.
However as for Hox and Hox+ sense 5 and 4.2.2 , it's been released for a month now and if you hadnt received it you should quite soon, so don't give up.
The reason for my speculation. Is that HTC announced that they will try to satisfy their old customers and roll out updates for older devices. And the one x+ isn't that old yet.
Hopefully we will get it
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However as for Hox and Hox+ sense 5 and 4.2.2 , it's been released for a month now and if you hadnt received it you should quite soon, so don't give up.
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In a couple of days, it will have been seven weeks since 4.2.2 first came out for some CIDs. That's nearly two months, not a month.
You know you are not getting 4.4 when it comes from Lloir. But maybe someone can make Rom carrying sense 6 with 4.4? Come on guys lets not give up. X+ is a beast phone, and it's worth developing.
I am still learning programming (java) and so forth and so on but once I could I will work on the development of this phone.
As for the previous post for my CID I got the update around the 22nd of august which is a month, but it wasnt meant to be accurate. Well if we aren't getting 4.4 I think we will get 4.3 atleast ?
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Ghand0ur said:
Honestly, I believe that 4.4 will be the end of the road for us. I believe that they will give out 4.4 by the summer of 2014 and skip 4.3 entirely.
However as for Hox and Hox+ sense 5 and 4.2.2 , it's been released for a month now and if you hadnt received it you should quite soon, so don't give up.
The reason for my speculation. Is that HTC announced that they will try to satisfy their old customers and roll out updates for older devices. And the one x+ isn't that old yet.
Hopefully we will get it
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We won't get it, as we need new tegra 3 drivers and if you haven't noticed nvidia have moved onto tegra 4
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Ooooh good! The read of the night "OS update and the relation to the Processors" , a bit of an off-topic question, but the drivers of Tegra 3 that you are all talking about means that the Android SDK is updated by the processor drivers?
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Ooooh good! The read of the night "OS update and the relation to the Processors" , a bit of an off-topic question, but the drivers of Tegra 3 that you are all talking about means that the Android SDK is updated by the processor drivers?
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Tegra is not only the CPU, its the chip set in the device, also nvidia need to update the kernel or provide HTC the drivers to get a newer android to work on the device. Which they won't support as I said tegra4 is released so little point to them to support it
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But then again, the 2012 Nexus 7 is a Tegra 3 device and I doubt Google won't push and insist for 4.4 on it.
So I guess Nvidia will support Tegra 3, and it would be up to HTC to decide whether to update the HOX(+) or not.
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HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
As previous One X great Devs found a way to move on development, sure X+ will have a lot of dev!
It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Simple google search solved the problem.
http://m.intomobile.com/2012/10/05/lg-optimus-nexus-announcement-pegged-late-october/
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
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That's a shame. I would've loved this phone.
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Source, please?
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-droid-incredible-x-rumored-to-be-googles-nexus-5-20120925/
http://www.pc-tablet.com/7693-andro...on-center-project-roadrunner-enhanced-google/
Wtf is happening with htc? Eclipze and me have htc amazes, and you can ask anyone that owns that phone, development is a pain
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Well the profits speak volumes. They're simply not retaining userbase.
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It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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LG is not that good name over on xda, as the support and software was crap. But most off times the hardware in Lg phones is damn nice and new tech so with google behind and no locked crap it might be a intressting phone.
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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Lame.
lazarat said:
Lame.
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So is your thanks meter....
Just giving my 2 cents on the matter
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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This could be possible but we are never sure, either way getting something like CM booting is only half the work, the real test is getting wifi, Bluetooth, GPS etc working without HTC releasing anything. The only way to get them working is work arounds. If you are a flashaholic that likes roms that are not based off stock then stay away.
If you like Sense then by all means get it
Yes totally screwed. Sammy can kiss my ***
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As someone who has an HTC flyer I must say, It saddens my to hear that HTC hardware isn't an option.
HTC has some aesthetically pleasing hardware and sense itself can be pretty nice. The tablet just feels great in your hands, and has a nice screen..
It absolutely sucks that HTC lets themselves get held back by poor sources.. I'm "ok" with my tablet not having the most up to date version constantly.. I didn't sign a contract for it.. but, I really don't want a phone that I'm locked into having for 2 years to be left out for no real good reason.
Still, I'd kill to see a smooth running JB rom that is factory quality on my flyer.
Thanks for the warning.
I have a Sensation and if it wasn't for CM this thing would have been in the garbage. I'm hoping to pick up one of these and I'm sure development work for it will eventually come around. It needs some time.
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I'm running the Sense Revolution R3 ROM on my Desire X right now, and am very happy with it. However, I was wondering, if a JB update is released for the DX, will I have to revert back to the stock ROM to update, or can the update be done simply be relocking and updating in this ROM itself, seeing as it is still running sense?
adbroot said:
I'm running the Sense Revolution R3 ROM on my Desire X right now, and am very happy with it. However, I was wondering, if a JB update is released for the DX, will I have to revert back to the stock ROM to update, or can the update be done simply be relocking and updating in this ROM itself, seeing as it is still running sense?
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I don't think we can update ....some Rom will be released or flash with ruu and update ...btw I don't think they would release jellybean now..as they might be busy with m7 and sense 5 ..
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I don't think we can update ....some Rom will be released or flash with ruu and update ...btw I don't think they would release jellybean now..as they might be busy with m7 and sense 5 ..
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Then we might get 4.2 and Sense 5... (from hTC)
Stereo8 said:
Then we might get 4.2 and Sense 5... (from hTC)
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There's a small glimmer of hope for 4.1 sense 4+ but even that is unofficial.
We should get sense 5 IMHO. A little frustration at HTC again.
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It's official... For the five hundred and first time, all 2012 phones with 768MB of RAM get jellybean.
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It's official... For the five hundred and first time, all 2012 phones with 768MB of RAM get jellybean.
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Yeah you say that, based on the press release but I remember the Desire HD was DEFINITELY getting ICS they even listed it specifically... never did.
Remember the GB update for the original desire, the scrapped it then released an appaling ROM on htc dev that had no internal memory or SD-EXT functionality..
I KNOW what the press release says, but you are dealing with a company that constantly renages on updates for its handsets.... I will believe it when I have the phone in my hand.
Also the previous post mentioned 4.2 and sense 5, that is HIGHLY doubtful. That is what I was commenting on as you can see in my brief post.
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Also, 512 and less not getting it does not mean we are DEFINITELY going to get it. They aren't, we are still in the running. They are not equivalent statements.
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well I think they won't even give it a 4.1 sense...let's hope cm would do some roms.....I am not affected as its my secondary phone..haha...HTC is kind of Nokia for me..Samsung is the best..
Seeing as we didn't even get the full sense on ICS, I find it highly unlikely that we will get sense 5.
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LlabTooFeR says sense 4+... whether it is lite or not I don't know.
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LlabTooFeR says sense 4+... whether it is lite or not I don't know.
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I was kidding for the 4.2 and Sense 5, and for the 4.1 JellyBean, I can bet we'll get it....
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I was kidding for the 4.2 and Sense 5, and for the 4.1 JellyBean, I can bet we'll get it....
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I'm hopeful we will. LlabTooFeR seems pretty reliable on these things. However, HTC aren't.
Just wanted to make it toally clear that saying 512 RAM is the cut off point is NOT the same as saying all other phones WILL get it. We have priority as a 2012 device for TESTING JB on the phone and then deciding to release it.
I'd guess, that we will get JB but with a horrible restricted Sense Lite and some of JB stripped out (notification expansion etc). It will be a poor compromise and we'll all be looking for ROMS pretty quick.
I hope I'm wrong, but all my dealings with HTC would suggest this to be the case. The Desire HD debacle was ridiculous and the contempt for the original Desire that was shown later on for their own flagship is concerning always. Fingers crossed though for something cool from HTC by June.
Is it possible that we will have a JB ROM soon though?
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No idea. I would imagine march at the earliest. Only a guess though. Testing, pilot roll out in Taiwan and Singapore, gradual worldwide release.
Nothing official yet, and they could always say no like they did with other models in the past.
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Is it possible that we will have a JB ROM soon though?
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Nope until HTC releases jellybean (sense) or we figure out wtf is with ICS trees... (AOSP)
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That should be soon though, right? The H7 is coming out in march and obviously it must be running JB.
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That should be soon though, right? The H7 is coming out in march and obviously it must be running JB.
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March? I don't know, we all hope...
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March? I don't know, we all hope...
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Btw, how come the One V has JB ROMs, but we don't? Aside from the fact that it's been around for longer?
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Btw, how come the One V has JB ROMs, but we don't? Aside from the fact that it's been around for longer?
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It has more developers who are willing to help build them
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Yep it's down to how many devs have the phone and how many want to support it.
It's a messy, difficult thing and there's not much on htc dev for them to to go on yet. We'll know by June I'd imagine.
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Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
123421342 said:
Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Um, what.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Um, what.
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he is asking if the DNA have the 4.2.2 JellyBean Update because the Nexus 4 have it and he is complaining about why Verizon or HTC do not give it to us...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
DROID DNA 5
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
DROID DNA 5
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what is this?
Lol
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I'm guessing this is his first HTC device.
haha...must be!!
123421342 said:
Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Skinned and heavily modded supported by htc vs pure vanilla supported by Google... I wonder which one will get the updates....
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he is asking if the DNA have the 4.2.2 JellyBean Update because the Nexus 4 have it and he is complaining about why Verizon or HTC do not give it to us...
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actually he was commenting about the VZW Gnex which did receive 4.2.2 official from verizon. but they have been on the network for a quite a bit longer.
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actually he was commenting about the VZW Gnex which did receive 4.2.2 official from verizon. but they have been on the network for a quite a bit longer.
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This is correct, I don't appreciate the sarcasm guys. The DNA is much more powerful than the Gnex and it has been out since November and so has 4.2.
4.2 mostly added changes for tablets, there really wasn't much changed for phones over 4.1 besides adding that new photosphere. That's mainly the reason why Google didn't bother to give it a new code name. I doubt it's worth the effort to upgrade.
I think everyone needs to remember what goes into these things. Clearly none of you have worked in an IT department before. Google releases a new version. HTC will get it, and then begins customizing it for their devices. They have to adjust the firmware, rebuild sense... it's not small development work. Then it goes into QA for a while to make sure it's up to par. Then it's released to Verzion and goes into their QA. Problems that arise during these phases are corrected and retested. Finally after it's all signed off, it's scheduled for release. That process can and does take months. It's the significant drawback for the android platform. Apple on the other hand would have been done with their initial release. Google Nexus phones get all the upgrades because Google tests everything for them before they release the new version.
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This is correct, I don't appreciate the sarcasm guys. The DNA is much more powerful than the Gnex and it has been out since November and so has 4.2.
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You do realize that the DNA foesnt run stock android.
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You do realize that the DNA foesnt run stock android.
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Yes but the change from 4.1 to 4.2.isn't that drastic that it would take this long to release it considering it came out when the DNA did.
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4.2 mostly added changes for tablets, there really wasn't much changed for phones over 4.1 besides adding that new photosphere. That's mainly the reason why Google didn't bother to give it a new code name. I doubt it's worth the effort to upgrade.
I think everyone needs to remember what goes into these things. Clearly none of you have worked in an IT department before. Google releases a new version. HTC will get it, and then begins customizing it for their devices. They have to adjust the firmware, rebuild sense... it's not small development work. Then it goes into QA for a while to make sure it's up to par. Then it's released to Verzion and goes into their QA. Problems that arise during these phases are corrected and retested. Finally after it's all signed off, it's scheduled for release. That process can and does take months. It's the significant drawback for the android platform. Apple on the other hand would have been done with their initial release. Google Nexus phones get all the upgrades because Google tests everything for them before they release the new version.
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I want the new version mainly for the lock screen changes.
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It is extremely unrealistic to expect a heavily skinned HTC device to get updates at the same speed as a device running just stock vanilla Android.
The Sense overlay is massive, and requires a lot of tuning and customization in order to function properly. Throw a new version of Android at HTC, and they have to spend a lot of time to make 'Sense' of things, if you take my meaning. The first thing they have to figure out is whether or not the update will even improve the user experience. What if there's no benefit to the end user because the update was mainly for tablets (as the previous poster said). Or, is it worth the cost of re-tooling Sense for an extremely minor update?
All this hating on HTC over updates on fairly new phones is really unfair.
Now the Rezound ICS update debacle was unforgivable, but this device hasn't even been out 6 months, and they've already put out an OTA with new radios. Dude, that's freaking awesome support!
So instead of all the negativity, how about congratulating HTC on lessons learned from the Rezound delays, and enjoying what you've got?
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It is extremely unrealistic to expect a heavily skinned HTC device to get updates at the same speed as a device running just stock vanilla Android.
The Sense overlay is massive, and requires a lot of tuning and customization in order to function properly. Throw a new version of Android at HTC, and they have to spend a lot of time to make 'Sense' of things, if you take my meaning. The first thing they have to figure out is whether or not the update will even improve the user experience. What if there's no benefit to the end user because the update was mainly for tablets (as the previous poster said). Or, is it worth the cost of re-tooling Sense for an extremely minor update?
All this hating on HTC over updates on fairly new phones is really unfair.
Now the Rezound ICS update debacle was unforgivable, but this device hasn't even been out 6 months, and they've already put out an OTA with new radios. Dude, that's freaking awesome support!
So instead of all the negativity, how about congratulating HTC on lessons learned from the Rezound delays, and enjoying what you've got?
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You are right but the new android isn't that different aside from the lock screen. I am not hating on HTC it's more than likely Verizon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABZfkRcQ6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
DROID DNA 5
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Lmao
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123421342 said:
You are right but the new android isn't that different aside from the lock screen. I am not hating on HTC it's more than likely Verizon.
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Man idk why you even started this topic? Have you been on Android or VZW for any length of time whatsoever? This shouldn't be a surprise. I mean we will probably see AOSP 4.2 from one of the devs long before we see 4.2 or even sense 5(which we already have) from VZW. Updates for phones that aren't a Nexus always take a long time and VZW is notorious for making that wait even longer.
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Woah woah woah... Sense is NOT skinned / heavily modded its a completely built up OS based on Aosp/Linux kernel
Two totally different things
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...d-skins-aosp-sense-touchwiz-xda-developer-tv/
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Why is there no 4.2.2 on DNA yet? Didnt the galaxy nexus just get it? What the hell verizon/htc?
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Yea, my brother got it last week for his Nexus.
Hello,
Any updates on when T-Mobile, if at all, plans to release Android 4.2.2 or 4.3 for the HTC One?
Thanks,
Crazysah
"Soon" is about all we heard.
My guess is that we'll get the same OS that is on the HTC One Mini, and we'll get it when the Mini hits T-Mobile stores.
-T
At this point it's all on T-Mobile. Since international 4.2.2 has been out... For while... Sigh... T-Mobile....
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T-BoneFL said:
My guess is that we'll get the same OS that is on the HTC One Mini, and we'll get it when the Mini hits T-Mobile stores.
-T
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Your probably right. Let's hope we don't have to wait as long as it was for the one s to get jelly bean. I'm very happy with stock (save for a few minor things I wish I could get rid of.. that water game, kids mode and carrier is) sense 5 is perfect in my book.
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My guess is the middle of September for 4.2.2.
For 4.3 that will be some time Spring-Summer 2014
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i heard soemthing about a tmobile OTA update potentially coming the 29th dont know how credible it is but its something.
It's htc and tmobile. I wouldn't count on an update until at least it's 2 versions behind. Look to the fall for 4.2.2 and don't count on anything beyond that. Just my opinion so take it for what it is, but look at HTC's track record and u will see.
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frettfreak said:
It's htc and tmobile. I wouldn't count on an update until at least it's 2 versions behind. Look to the fall for 4.2.2 and don't count on anything beyond that. Just my opinion so take it for what it is, but look at HTC's track record and u will see.
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Yeap agreed with you. Though really I'm fine with being on 4.1 right now, I ran Android Revolution for about a month but the lack of Wi-Fi calling/texted is killing me. Once the RUU gets updated i'll flash it and run that till they release a version of 4.2 so mike can integrate Wi-Fi calling with ARHD. 4.2.2 really only had a few things that make it better, mainly using home button as a menu key to get rid of the three dot lower menu. 4.3 doesn't have too many killer features either so i'm not in a huge rush for it, i'd be fine with them skipping over it and just having 5.0 ready to go whenever it comes time.
4.3 adds performance boost, would be nice to see this instead of 4.2.2 hitting America, but in the end id rather see key lime pie over anything
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I just want 4.3 for the bluetooth stack. Guess we will see it a year from now.
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It's htc and tmobile. I wouldn't count on an update until at least it's 2 versions behind. Look to the fall for 4.2.2 and don't count on anything beyond that. Just my opinion so take it for what it is, but look at HTC's track record and u will see.
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Agreed. A year from now HTC will say their classic "the hardware can't keep up with it", while other manufacturers with exactly the same hardware keep rolling out updates... Like ....sung...
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When did HTC update the stock Sense?
heartsaver1859 said:
When did HTC update the stock Sense?
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They went to Sense 5 with the One, is that what you mean?
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Agreed. A year from now HTC will say their classic "the hardware can't keep up with it", while other manufacturers with exactly the same hardware keep rolling out updates... Like ....sung...
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBRK8Wy2VkLjL6bTg&sig2=g3LwOcOmO8HwK0hXZsbh2Q
Reddit doesn't have "copy link" option or something like this.
WiFi calling would be the biggest draw backs in changing the Rom. There is ARHD that supports WiFi calling. The downside would be that it's 4.1.2
Other than that, it is far superioir than the stock T-Mobile.
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Based on previous HTC phones, the odds of us getting a 4.3 update are slim to nil, unless on the Developer edition or GPe.
Has 4.2.2 been released for ANY non-tablet device in the US yet?
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Has 4.2.2 been released for ANY non-tablet device in the US yet?
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Nexus 4
HTC One GPE (on 4.3 now)
Galaxy S4 GPE (on 4.3 now)
Galaxy S4 - comes preloaded.
Galaxy Nexus
I'm probably missing some other recent devices, but yeah - 4.2.2 is rolling out for smartphones.
This makes me a saaaaad panda, though a Dutch T mobile tester said on their forums that it's 1 to 3 weeks until we get the update.
I was searching the internet when I came across this on Reddit. Should we look forward to seeing Official kitkat on our devices or just turn our head away from now? What are your opinions?
"To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
Source http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
If they decide to selectively update the Qualcomm versions of One X (the AT&T one and probably the One XL) they'd only create even more disappointment and rage amongst users. Sure, the ones getting the update will be happy.
And about the X+, none of the devices would get the update, because all versions of the X+ use the Nvidia chipset.
Tegra 3
What I don't get is that how can we still have Android 4.3/4.4 roms for the One X+ yet HTC says they can't develop roms because Nvidia no longer supports this chipset.
The main issue is the kernel and drivers . in most cases these have been back ported from 4.3 so although they work its not optimum
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Sorry to disappoint you guys
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Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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Tazmaniiac said:
Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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They didnt teh statement read
"However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
So they never said the Nvidia powered devices where being looked at. If we want updates we should be pestering Nvidia to continue tegra3 support
As far as I understood it they meant that an update to 4.3 would only be possible on the OneX, that's why the try to find a way to update to 4.4 on both devices.
Otherwise it would be pointless to say that they don't want to update the OneX, but still wanting to find a way to update to KitKat..
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Lets's see if HTC will suprise us in a positve way.
It only concerns the Qualcomm version of the One X. The HOX+ will not be updated, the Tegra 3 variant is not supported by Nvidia. And of course, HTC did not think to pressure them to offer support, so...
Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
One other gem from this AMA, which will have HTC One X and One X+ owners very happy, is that HTC is now reconsidering updating these phones to Android KitKat. This is a pretty big backflip considering HTC came out and officially said that the phone would not be supported past Android 4.2.2, but I think we can all agree this change a good thing.
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http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
I think we should just sit back and wait...
HTC's rep and sales has gone sideways, so in my opinion, well.... Pretty much said.
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panpjp said:
I think we should just sit back and wait...
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Exactly. I see that the update thing went during the reddit session many times. I think they realize we are unhappy with this decision and maybe they will try to talk with nvidia about that.
Sweet dreams.
phikal said:
Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
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Its the same source as the rest of the news so i think its just taken out of context. My reading of what was said is its just the Qualcomm handsets that are being revisited as nvidia have dropped open support for the tegra3
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Yes, only the US (Qualcomm) version of the One X is being investigated for an update.
And if you look through the comments, you will see that HTC responded loud and clear:
"For the HTC One X in the US (diff chipset than global version), we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
HERE is the link for this.
TheDougTechCrew said:
Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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From my knowledge, we didn't exploit anything as per say. With the new HBoot you just have to unlock the bootloader which is a service provided by HTC itself and flash a recovery which is a job for our devs which shouldn't take a while to find a solution to. What you said would be an issue if it was S-Offed or close to an S-Off so the update might cause a threat to that exploit but seeing as this didn't happen/not close to happening I dont think thats a problem.
I honestly am not in a hurry to get a new phone since I know that my HOX+ is good for me, however I would be quite happy if we can have access to sense 5.5 with the kitkat features. I like blinkfeed and with the options found on the One I think i will love it more.
YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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I've given up moaning on elevate..
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Lloir said:
I've given up moaning on elevate..
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NEVER give up moaning, even if it gets you nowhere.... Doesn't do women any harm anyway